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评论来自
Bury
This trinket dropped off Magtheridon, in Magtheridon's Lair, for the guild Death and Taxes on Feb 27, 2007.
http://www.dtguilds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6061
评论来自
25298
This trinket looks a bit strange... most people are probably equipped with spell hit to avoid resistances so in order for this to work u have to what? go low on spell hit so u leave some room for resists?
if i was looking for passive dmg and active dmg bonus i suppose i would aim for
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=29370
评论来自
16226
In Molten Core-like instances this would be good.
I mean, against creatures with high resistance vs specific Magic School.
By mentioning MC, I meant that a mage could throw some Fire spells and get them resisted, then go back and spam Frost/Arcane for 10 sec and so on.
评论来自
22692
Comparing this against a single trinket like the Icon of the Silver Crescent is hardly fair. We have (2) trinket slots to use. Most people that would even come close to having a chance of obtaining this trinket will probably have had Silver Crescent for awhile.
This is still one of the highest passive caster DPS trinkets in the game. Resists are unfortunate and cannot be avoided. Thinking of ways to increase the proc rate of the trinket is silly, as anytime a spell is resisted, thats not good. This trinket has an interesting way of making something bad end up being quite nice.
Hopefully one day I will be adding it to my bag of tricks.
评论来自
15639
let's see...
10 second's worth of casting with +170 damage = +485 damage before talents.
So basically every time this trinket procs, you lost the damage of a single spell, but gained 600+ damage from this trinket, depending on your talents and the spells you are using.
Having lots of +hit gear is still better, but this trinket is the next best thing for casters with no easy access to +hit (all besides Arcane mages and Shadowpriests).
评论来自
3465
Actually people need to quit thinking of this trinket in regards to how much it 'sucks' and how much it could be used to your advantage in certain situations.
As with all high-end instances, there are times when certain bosses/mobs have high resists to one school of magic. - If you (say as a mage) can spare 1 global cooldown to purposely fire a spell that you KNOW will resist, you could consider this trinket overpowered in that situation.
Take for example shade of aran who pops water elementals at like 30%....your constantly having to move in that fight. So why not target a water elemental real quick, icelance it (I'm not sure if this trinket works on 'immunity'...so maybe this isn't the best example) then go to town on Aran.
Either way, this trinket may seem 'teh suck' to some of you, but to those who know how to use it in certain situations it could be quite useful.
评论来自
danibwoi
As far as % to hit goes:
1% spell hit chance increases the base chance for a spell to land against a target by 1%
If your target is the same level as you, a spell has a base chance to hit of 96%.
If the target is +1 level compared to you: 95%
+2 levels: 94%
+3 levels: 83% if the target is a mob, 87% if the target is a player.
+4 levels: mob: 72% player: 80%
+5 levels: mob: 61% player: 73%
So in other words, this trinket is fekkin uber @ heavy boss encounters, especially if you're a frostmage due to binary frostbolts (and ya want a steady linear dps).
You're whining, ignorant speculations and xamples sucks :p
评论来自
27560
it would be great for aoe
评论来自
AEtherGod
i think this is great for holy Spell damage like paladins or holy priest where no amount of +spell hit would prevent a spell from being resisted
评论来自
Josh
anyone know if the resist proc can stack?
评论来自
35030
I use it with the Icon of the Silver Crescent.
I'm a shadowpriest, and I cast near non-stop...I can tell you that on any given boss, I'll be resisted once every 1-2 minutes. Heck, on Nightbane tonight, I was resisted at least twice a minute.
100% proc rate on resist. That fantastic. It ups my dps quite appreciably, and thus my mana/health return to my party.
Also, if you have a resist during the 10 second proc, it currently resets the timer. So, in a way, lower hit can help you with this trinket.
Don't knock it until you try it. (Going to go try out PvP with it now.)
评论来自
37052
Does it proc off of partial resists?
评论来自
Kimoshi
Does it have a hidden cooldown? Personally, the gear path I'm going to be following will probably be forsaking most/all of +hit for +damage and +crit.
评论来自
43982
As a mage, just came to think of the slight advantage you get particulary against a rogue.. as he CoS, you just fire up icelance, get this baby to proc wait 5 sec and then AP->Trinket->PoM.
imba in arena, so-so in pve.
评论来自
46188
Why this trinket seems terrible for a mage, by a mage:
Fireball - A resisted fireball means 1900+ damage is lost. It would then take ~10 fireballs cast with this trinket to make up for that lost damage. You only have time for 3-4. Clear loss.
Scorch - just as unforgiving since you only get 43% of the damage buff each cast. You'd need to cast just as many times to get your lost damage back.
Arcane missles - is probably ideal if you want to use this trinket as a mage, since a resist off a single pulse will more than likely proc it. If you're already working well with arcane missiles in a raid, this trinket can probably up your damage. I'd go for a lightning capacitor over it though for AM. I'm not supporting AM builds in any way, but if you happen to be using it, this trinket would be worth testing.
I could see shadow priests and locks using it. A DoT lock only loses 1.5 seconds of GCD on a resist and a single tick of a DoT. They easily recoup that loss and mana is becoming less of an issue for them. Shadowpriests get similar advantages with resisted ticks from mindflay and SW:P applications. The mana loss on a resisted SW:P is pretty ugly, but the resulting damage buff lets them return more mana/hp to the group, which is its own reward on top of higher DPS.
评论来自
Senf71
This is an amazing trinket for a Spell damage paladin. If I am spamming rank 1 consecration, as well as judgments, and my SoR hits. I do about 80 attacks that can potentially be resisted each minute. If a boss has a 5% chance to resist each of those 80 spells this trinket is going to be up more than 60% of the time. On average over time this will equate to about +100 spell damage. Plus the 42 base that is rather a nice trinket. :)
That is assuming consecration resists will trigger it, but I don't see why they wouldn't.
评论来自
47718
Right now, with my gear, I have about 10 percent +chance to hit (14 with a draenei elemental shaman in my party). I'm usually the highest DPS caster in my raid. This trinket would cost me about 1.2 percent hit (replacing neltharion's tear). I'm not sure if the dps increase from the proc is equal to the hit loss.
That said, I think I would resist plenty to get this to proc, without removing any hit gear which would further gimp my DPS. I think this is great for a mage, since mages have more trouble hitting the +hit cap. The 6 percent chance I have to resist on cast is plenty, and this would help to mitigate what I lose on those resists.
评论来自
48939
As it stands, the single most effective way of upgrading your DPS/DPM as a Mage is gaining more +hit.
This trinket is alright for the people who raid and haven't gotten the picture yet, but for anyone who actually knows how to gear up, with sufficient hit, this item quickly loses its value.
It'll only get worse for its place in the game as jewelcrafting develops and more spellhit gems become available.
If you've got the honor to count yourself amongst the crit/damage whores who still lack in DPS due to laughable hit, by all means get this, you'll make it easier for the sensible Mages to gear up.
评论来自
frmorrison
With the buff to 54 +damage, this is hard to pass up, plus the fact that 1% of your spells will resist.
Assuming you casted a spells every 1.5 seconds (like scorch) with 16% to hit on a boss, this trinket would go off every 2.5 minutes for 10 seconds, which is about 10 +damage over time.
So with the best hit gear, this trinket is worth 64 damage, and scales as up as you have less hit gear. However, trinkets like Icon will get you a temp buff when you want it (good for Enrage) so some may prefer that trinket over this.
评论来自
56940
After using this trinket, I would like to add that even when a spell hits, a secondary effect such as Shadow Weaving, Winter's Chill, Shadow Embrace, etc. can be resisted (even if it is already stacked to its maximum) and will trigger the proc effect.
评论来自
Joetest
No one is mentioning the equip part of the trink, which totally rocks... I'd love this even if it didn't have the chance on resist portion, considering it has 54 dmg on it :).
评论来自
Nicarras
Warlock DoT ticks proc this trinket with recent changes. Aff Warlocks are the best candidates for this trinket.
评论来自
debris
warlock dot ticks proc this trinket?
dot ticks can't be resistet.. only the whole dot.. so.. what you are saying is complete BS.
评论来自
2530
On my Shadow Priest I've been using this trinket for a few weeks now.
I have 16.66% Spell Hit (Counting talents)
When I first rolled on the item I was interested in the spell damage it gave pasively.
I assumed the proc wouldn't activate often for me since I was at 16% spell hit. However the proc on this little trinket actives quite often.
So this is a amazing trinket good for anyone that wants +spell damage.
评论来自
bithalver
i have a 43/1/17 lock. for affliction spells, I ~nearly~ do not have resists, for shadowbolts I have ~some~, so, lets say, I see a resist in every 2 minutes (very rough calculation).
10sec in every 120sec, 1/12 of the time; 170/12 is about 14.
54 + 14 is 68. +68 dmg up in average, I say it sounds good. for every other caster, who has less hit, the number is greater. even better.
comparing this to Silver Crescent (43 + 155/6 = 69 spell dam), they are very close.
comparing it to Darkmoon Card: Crusade (80 spell dam, after some warm-up, only good for bosses), hmmm.
I will wear the eye for trash and the card for bosses.
评论来自
24647
Godly trinket, I want it! :)
评论来自
Valpants
This trinket is very nice. The passive damage boost is awesome and with the proc it is great. Especially for destruction locks who get no + hit talents when speccing into the destruction tree, it certainly makes resists a lot more bearable.
On a side not this is also good fun with Cloak of Shadows, cast an instant cast when CloS goes up, get your damage buff, wait for the Cloak to wear off and pop you 'use' trinket and you've got rogues QQing on the lock fora again :P
评论来自
54116
Has anyone used this while pvp'ing, again rogues with Cloak of Shadows up? I think it would come handy there.
I agree that it's a fantastic trinket for pve though, as at boss fights you can't help but having a few resists, and this helps you recover from the dps loss. And the passive damage bonus is great too.
评论来自
68021
I think the real use of this trinket is for classes with +hit from talents that only affect one of their magic schools. An Affliction lock with maxed Suppression can purposely keep his +hit on gear at a Minimum. If his Destruction Spells have only about 3-4% additional Hit chance he can probably keep the buff by casting searing pain every now and then. But I doubt it is even possible to neglect +hit that way with any decent raiding gear.
评论来自
79109
Although not obvious at first this trinket suits a deep arcane mage.
Deep arcane only requires 6% spell hit from gear due to the 10% spell hit bonus to arcane spells from talents. But arcane builds use spell rotations, such as:
AB->AB->AB->AM->scorch
The scorch only inherits the spell hit bonus from gear, 17%-6% = 11% chance to resist. Although the scorch adds neglible DPS (its more of a spacer to ensure you get a 1.5 sec low-mana-cost AB next rotation) it has a decent chance on the rotation of proccing this trinket.
So deep arcane mages get to have their cake (reach max spell hit) and eat it too (decent chance of proccing this trinket)
评论来自
16407
Amazing for a Tankadin. Holy spells are binary as well. Each tick of consecrate can be resisted, each swing of SoR can be resisted, every judge or holy shield proc can be resisted. +Spell hit has no room in the tankadin itemization.
So it can and WILL happen almost constantly.
Of course it's not exactly a "tank" item, but can be incredibly nice in those high threat situations. The infamous aoe tanking.
评论来自
isitLoVe
ok i got a *abuse* question to those who have this item:
in netherstorm there is a quest where u get a special buff potion (
http://www.cuckhead.com/?quest=10411
). I testet it on several bosses (hydross, maggi, lurker, etc) and i got many RESISTS of this buff effect *Your Electro-Shock was resisted by ...*.
go out there geht the quest use the buff and test it if it procs from this buff. but plz dont shout out too loud cause blizz will it fix for sure (if it works)
edit: maybe found a proofe ^^
http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:F-dUye9WuZwJ:forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html%3Bjsessionid%3D6385AC4433D8264FA0A1E4E30AB904A7.app09_01%3FtopicId%3D293179821%26sid%3D1+Eye+of+Magtheridon+electro+shock&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a
post was removed by blizz i think
评论来自
75972
Does this trigger on DOTs?
Like insect swarm for example which is often ressisted atleast once every time you cast it.
Even if it doens´t I find this great for a balanced druid since you always cast faeri fire and the ressist ont thoose ae high aswell. +340 spelldmg with a Starfire crit not even counting Wrath of cenarius.
评论来自
77570
If a rogue were to Cloak of Shadows and i spam instant casts, does this effect Stack?
评论来自
colt45
Can resisted lightning bolts from lightning capacitor proc this? They have a nasty habit of getting resisted and would be great if they could proc this.
评论来自
grezgorz
Similar to the arcane mage who includes scorch in his/her rotation to attempt to proc this trinket due to a reduced +hit rating for spells outside of his/her talent spec, as a night elf shadow priest, I use the now infinitely more useful (since patch 2.3) starshards racial spell to proc this trinket. Because it is classified as an arcane spell, it does not receive the hit bonus from my shadow focus talent. The best part is that it doesn't cost any mana!
评论来自
Pledioch
Assuming perfect conditions (no latency), no interruptions in casting (no silences, knockbacks, damage taken, or moving around), and spamming Arcane Missiles (one hit every second), in a 10 minute fight, you'll get 600 ticks of Arcane Missiles in, meaning 6 resists through the whole fight.
Also assuming that you get no overlapping procs (which would be ideal), you'll get the 170 spell damage for a total of 1 minute in a 10 minute fight. So that means that the proc itself is worth a passive 17 spell damage over a 10 minute fight, in those conditions.
Now lets assume that you're fighting Magtheridon, moving to click cubes, standing there not casting while you're cube-clicking, you run out of mana for a while, have to Evocate or wand while you're waiting on a potion cooldown, moving out of Cave Ins, etc.
Lets say that overall, with all of that going on, you manage to get a cast off (on average) every 3 seconds. That's probably a lot more accurate than a cast every second without having to move at all and never running out of mana.
If you get a cast off every 3 seconds, that means you'll get 200 spell hits during a 10 minute fight. 1% (2) of those are resisted, so you'll get 170 spell damage for a total of 20 seconds. Spread that out over a 10 minute fight, and that averages out to a total of 170/30 = 5.666666 spell damage overall.
I think my math is right, if it's not, please correct me.
Assuming a spell hit every second, this trinket is worth 54 + 17 = 71 spell damage.
Assuming a spell hit every 2 seconds, this trinket is worth 54 + 8.5 = 62.5 spell damage.
Assuming a spell hit every 3 seconds, this trinket is worth 54 + 5.6 = ~60 spell damage.
This post is long enough, so I won't get into the math, but the Icon of the Silver Crescent is worth 43 + 15.5 = 58.5 spell damage over a 10-minute fight (regardless of how often your spells hit).
So I think this one is better than the Icon. Especially if you're an arcane mage that uses Scorch in your rotation, or any other caster that uses multiple schools of magic and has lower than 99% chance to hit on one of them.
Any good caster will have their spell hit capped for at least their main school of magic by the time they're killing Magtheridon anyways, but even if they do, this trinket is awesome. Too bad i've passed on it twice now...wish I had done some theorycrafting first.
/tar Pledioch
/kick
Edit: Oh yeah, and i'm currently using the Icon and the Darkmoon Card: Crusade (passive 80 spell damage), and having 2 passive trinkets (I think, unless you make macros to automatically use your trinkets every time they're on cooldown) is much easier than having an extra click to do. So if this drops again i'm freakin taking it.
评论来自
43910
gythawen, you are wrong.
Only the first tick of consecration can be resisted, and SoR hits can NOT be resisted at all.
And it seems the new pally tank badge gear is getting loaded with +spellhit, so you are just wrong.
评论来自
116326
use this on a rogue with CoS :)
its like a definite resist
评论来自
116147
I am not sure where you got 15.5 spell damage value for the Use: portion of the Icon.
155 spell damage for 20 seconds/2 minute cooldown means it will be up 1/6 of the time. 155/6 = ~25.87, not 15.5, assuming you are using it every cooldown. That makes the overall value for the trinket 43 + 26 = 69 spell damage on average.
Icon clearly outclasses this trinket if you are hit capped, for most classes.
评论来自
125795
I wonder the same thing. Cause when a warlock has 16% spellhit(202 hitrating) the hit cap is reached. no matter what you do to raise it higher, you will always get that 1% resist.
So for a highlvl trinket, in reality this will proc 1% or the time. My question is this, will it proc when a tick of the DOT is resisted? or will it only work when you cast the spell, and the whole DOT is resisted?
评论来自
146485
just a random fact... if you cast a spell and it gets reflected and you resist it, the eye procs :D
评论来自
171496
Pretty good trinket, for any caster. But cant understand why blizzard chooses to proc when you get resisted, you should be hit capped, if you are raiding Mags.
评论来自
164017
wont hit cap a mage you say?
I was still on my 1st few kara runs, and was hit capped without any talents for spell hit. It's very easy to obtain spell hit gear, if you jst socket for it.
And now I'm in SSC/TK, arcane specced (and yes my mana last jst as good as the fire-clearcast mages, I wonder what they do wrong tbh) and are trying an arcane / icy veins specc, it's great and the higest dps I've reached so far (and yes again, I have thought about the fact that I have upgraded my gears).
That gives me room to get 10% arcane spell hit from talents, just as good as any lock.
And I'm able to go AB AM rotation, and even spam the AB a bit when I feel like having some fun! lol
The only boss I've encountered that's arcane immune is curator, but to make up for some lost dps there, my arcane missiles are doing a great job on the adds.
I know it says on WoWWiki that VR is arcane immune, but nah, he really isnt..
Alltho, this trink would be nice since I suppose it will proc as soon as one of my missiles is resisted, and even overcapped as I am, I do get more than 1 resist during 2 mins. So, compared to a trink that's got a use like: 150 spell dmg 15 sec 2 min CD, this is gonna add more spell dmg, without me trying to get a resist as I've seen suggested..
So atm, without any trinks from ZA, my dream pair would be this one, together with Icon of the Silver Creasent, which I allready have. :)
评论来自
Squeel
I'm not sure if anyone has brought this up yet but i think that this would be a lovely PVP trinket for casters especially against rogues since they will more then likely use CoS against you and if you can survive thru that then you will have a nice boost to your dmg when he comes out.
given, they will probably have vanished by then, or killed you, but it's a nice thought at least
评论来自
42833
Note:
You may think that this becomes "bad" when you get close to the hit cap, which you will probably be chasing, when fighting. In fact, it won't.
Even if you sit there casting with tons of hit, as long as you are not hit capped, this trinket will trigger off more often than you can cast a "use"-trinket buff. Of course, with less hit you'll be getting the buff more often, but you will still have this procced once every one or two minutes, even if you've stacked hit like nothing else.
评论来自
oppel
How can you tell when it procs?
评论来自
145105
IMO the best use of this trinket will be for AoE grinding when WOTLK comes out. In this case you have 10 levels to get as quickly as possible to get back into raids. No need to stack hit in this case. So, throw your dps gear on, find some mobs 2-3 levels higher than you and start nuking.
This combo should work nicely considering FN/Blizzard/CoC have a high probability of a resist vs. 8-10 mobs. The Blade of wizardry for the proc haste for chain blizzard, The eye for spell damage, and the coil for your mana, all should reduce your AoE grinding downtime to something very short. And during leveling, the single fastest way to boost XP/hr is to decrease your downtime between cycles.
Blade of Wizardry
Eye of Magtheridon
Serpent-Coil Braid
评论来自
hampst0r
Since the 3.x change to spell power this trinket is extremely good for a raiding healer.
With no +hit stacked you're able to just use a GCD or two and a little mana and get the +170 power proc.
评论来自
155128
For warlocks, Seed of Corruption is a great proccer of this trinket's effect in instances with lots of trash mobs like Karazhan or SSC. It is usual to get it resisted, even with high spell hit rating. And casting Seed of Corruption doesn't lower your DPS output, so you will not be casting just to get it proc.
评论来自
Lovestar
So... I've read through 50 comments worth of Burning Crusade theorycraft, and not one person has observed the most awesome thing about this trinket:
It teaches us that every time you pull up a
生命微粒
while herbing in Outland, you're collecting
some demon's eyeball
.
评论来自
Kanariya
The comments on this page may seem confusing for players who weren't around before Wrath of the Lich King so here's some info on why this wasn't a useless trinket back then.
Prior to Patch 3.0.2, when a spell missed it showed up as "Resist", not "Miss." A lack of resistance did not reduce the spell hit requirement, so even if a mob had 0 resistance, your spells could still resist by lack of spell hit chance. Additionally, spell hit was capped at 99%, meaning that 16% would be the maximum effective chance to hit bosses. There was no way to mitigate the 1% spell miss chance, so you would sometimes see your spells resist. Even a full Tier 6 geared caster at the spell hit cap could still proc this trinket.
Today, spells do not resist when missing and players cannot miss with spells (unless the target is at least 4 levels higher).
Spell misses do not trigger this trinket, and no known mobs have any resistance. It is no longer possible to proc this trinket.
*unless you are under level 30 and are fighting another player under level 30 wearing numerous BC resist items. This does not actually happen.
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