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评论来自
7293
You are missing the point that while the questline for Verigan's fist is not soloable in the early 20s, and requires a group at least for the Deadmines, this is very likely far easier to obtain (I haven't played Beta, so this is only a conjecture)
Take into consideration that Verigan's is a level 31 weapon, and this is a level 23. Comparing it with similar weapons, you have:
Advisors's Gnarled Staff -
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=20425
Crescent Staff -
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=6505
Emberstone Staff -
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=5201
Gargoyle's Bite -
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=12989
And the ever popular Smite's Mighty Hammer
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=7230
There are a lot other items for this level. If this is a questline reward, It should be too hard to get, considering the level. But it IS on par with Deadmines'/Wailing Caverns' drops, and it has better stats than most of them (although similar or identic DPS)
评论来自
7293
/sigh
Ok, lets do this by parts:
Smite's Mighty Hammer isn't a staff. Neither is Taskmaster's Axe. Neither is Searing Blade. I didn't list weapons paladins can use, I listed similar level weapons that everyone is suing to put it into context. It is not a Verigan's fist, and likely will be far easier to obtain.
The reason I didn't list the 20+ weapons that come up when you do a filtered search for weapons between the 22-24 level bracket is simply because it was unnecessary. There quite a few weapons pallies can use at that bracket. The ones I mentioned above are some of the most popular for ALL classes at that level.
FTR, my pally used a Smite's Mighty Hammer till he got Verigan's.
评论来自
36774
i wanna use polearms and i plan on getting this. how long will this last me?
评论来自
TheRaven
I use this when healing on my paladin (i stack on int gear). the 6 int along with the stam is nice for 20-30 healing.
The stam is especialy useful since im using robes, belt and shoulders from SFK.
But for solo/dps the Sin'dori warblade is much better. Or smites hammer (if you can get a vc group), or buy a Night Reaver like i did (>.> SoC +CoH Firebolt + Fiery = lots of random yellow numbers)
评论来自
59665
I find it a pretty good weapon for healing alright for soloing but the quest is a major hassle at level 20 I had many different people help me I did not even know where Ashenvale was until I beat this quest.
评论来自
40230
The allaiance wepon takes you to horde territoy and this dose not ... it is hard for alliance ot get a group for SFK and BFD but horde are always doing thoes instances... and also alliance are the orignal palladins so umm yeah
评论来自
25630
The thing I like about this weapon is that it venders for 33 silver 1 copper. This will be very handy for buying water or even getting some skills from the trainer.
评论来自
ninjasuperspy
I honestly don't know why people are looking down on this polearm. In the entire game 1-70 there are only five weapons that have +Str +Stam and +Int at the same time (usable by paladins. I know there are some class AQ weps and a staff). One is the Ranseur and then there isn't another until Heaven's Light at 45, and that would be a statistical downgrade (bonus wise).
Yes, the individual strikes from the Warblade would be larger but the difference stat bonus wise is large. With the Ranseur you gain 6 int and 5 Stam at the cost of 1 str and 6 top end damage.
This is a really choice weapon for any up and coming Blood Knight. It loses a bit of luster when compared to the VFist (30 less top end damage is a bit weak) , but the Fist doesn't have any Str at all, just a ton of Spirit.
So yeah. If you want a +Str/+Stam/+Int weapon there really is no alternative. It isn't as huge as Verigan's, but the new philosophy in WoW seems to be "Small Equipment Upgrades Often."
评论来自
Lamplike
well.....atleast the graphic is nice *nervous laughter*
but really not much more to say thats already been said this weapon has its uses but for the time it takes to get its only a sidegrade really to sin'dorei warblade.
评论来自
47621
Yes, the warblade you get around level 20 in Ghostlands is a little better for a SoC spec'd paladin, but at a level that low, it really doesn't matter too much, especially when you take in the fact that both weapons will be replaced much quicker than the Alliance level 20 weapon.
When my paladin was ready to use the Blood-Tempered Ranseur, I used it. It looks better than the Warblade, and it's unique in that only the BE paladins have access to it. To me, that was worth giving up a little DPS from the Warblade. I also put on the +5 dmg enchant, so that helped out too :P
评论来自
61260
In order to use this item one must pay 1 gold along with this chain in order to learn polearms.
It would have been much smarter to just make it another Mace quest but use the Blood Knight maul graphic instead of the one verigan uses, but give it the same stats just a blood elf look. Blood Knight Maul
-
http://www.cuckhead.com/?search=blood+knight
评论来自
Knoxpwns
This polearm needs itself a serious buff imo. Comparitively,
the alliance version of this weapon is as such:
Verigan's Fist
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=6953
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Mace
65 - 99 Damage Speed 3.20
(25.6 damage per second)
+7 Stamina
+6 Intellect
+12 Spirit
Durability 100 / 100
Classes: Paladin
Allthough the stats on our polarm are better for a ret paladin then that of Verigan's Fist, which is what the majority of people would spec to level, there is a 6.9 DPS difference between the Horde and Alliance version, mind you that they both require the same questline. At level 20, that seemingly small difference is in reality a huge amount.
Playing both an Alliance and Horde paladin, the Alliance's mace is amazing for its level, with above average crits for a mid 20 character. This one is really only SLIGHTLY better then the Sin'dorei Warblade from Ghostlands.
(
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=22995
)
The stats are fine, at most this could at least use a small DPS boost, especially considering we have to pay up a gold to learn the polearm skill, and alliance paladins start with a 2h mace skill, not to mention that we are doing the same amount of work for a worse item.
评论来自
Nerizor
Keep in mind, how much better Verigan's Fist could ever be, you should STILL always do the Class Quests for your own safety in azeroth, and you might miss later quests that you want to do because you never did these.
And, as a plus side which differs this from the Fist, is that this weapon is alot cooler and has more Lore involved, meaning this is supperiour to the Fist RP-wise.
评论来自
Dimish
I think since the buff, even The Arced War Axe is better.
Arced War Axe
Binds when picked up
Two hand Axe
57-86 Damage Speed 3.30
(21.7 damage per second)
+ 10 Strenght
+ 9 Stamina
Requires level 20
评论来自
gaze
many items that are much better in the very instances that the quest requires,
like that arced war axe mentioned above...
also this one that i'm wearing
Reef Axe
59-89 damage speed 3.30
(22.4 damage per second)
+ 10 stam
+ 20 attack power
requires level 22
评论来自
74022
Also remember that hordes can get this cloak
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=22990
very easily, especially BE. That's might be why this polearm is underpowered
评论来自
Avoodibaba
I just spent about 2 hours getting this item.
IMO its sort of worth it, if you do the runs now (after low lvl instance buffs) you will get some good gear anyway so i dont see why not pick it up as a side quest...If you dont get a good weapon drop during the runs then you can always fall back on this :) Plus it looks cool
Oh and I also love polearms and this is my first one ever (my main is a rogue)
评论来自
jaxsonbateman
On the plus side, the questline is soloable if you know what you're doing. But then, so is the alliance one.
But this is not a great paladin weapon... it could be half decent for holy/prot using SoR, but for ret using SoComm, it's definitely inferior to the Sindorei Warblade (which, funnily enough, isn't soloable at the level you get it). It seems that put it in there for flavour.
While there are also better alternative to Verigan's Fist (no str/AP or crit/agi, and... spi?!?), for the level you can get it at, it's awesome. I couldn't be bothered getting a group for it on my latest run at the quest (the fourth time I've done it overall since I started playing WoW), and solo'd the whole questline at 23. The hardest bit was getting the first boss in SFK, but then, after some strategy adjustments I got it - and I'm very badly geared (all quest rewards ftw ^^).
In any case, levelling up to ~30 is easy no matter what gear you're using - and then you can do Corpsemaker (CM) runs in RFK.
评论来自
125427
Isn't it better than the Warblade for SotC, or do you have to level that skill beyond the Ranseur growing obsolete?
I don't understand why blizz put effort into making such a cool model for a weapon, and then give it pretty lousy stats, when all the other mid-game spears are plain at best, or downright ugly.
Seeing as how horde pallys don't have any class quests before the endgame, I would've built up a quest-chain around this weapon - every few levels, hunt down an elite demon with this wep, so it can "drink" the demon blood for a little bit more dps & int boost, allowing it to sorta keep up into the mid 40'ies, then it would've been easier to accept it relative inferiority... I mean, if this is supposed to be the main weapon of Blood Knights, they'd get their behinds kicked by any random flock of sheep.
I'm gonna put Demonslaying on mine, and just pretend it isn't useless... I'm also still wearing Raider's Boots of the Whale, just can't seem to find any red plate feet.
评论来自
112064
I was rather disappointed with this. As others have noted, it's a bit of a downgrade from the warblade, which I personally think looks cooler. My hunter rolls with Terrok's Quill (which uses the same model as the ranseur) which makes my pally look kinda weird to me.
But what was really sad was that
Haunting Blade
dropped on the SFK run, which is superior to the ranseur in every important respect for a ret pally. Don't get me wrong; I'm happy to have the blade, but it seems stupid that the quest reward is obsoleted by a weapon that drops in the instance you have to run in order to get it.
评论来自
6989
Easier to just pick up a Gargoyle's Bite on the Auction House.
评论来自
75772
Yes, I find my crits to be a decent bit higher with the Axe than the Polearm ... which is ironic because I got the axe while in a group to get the quest item for the polearm. :P
评论来自
120774
Id rather just get the weapon and be done with it. i think it looks great, and even though it has much to be desired, its great for a Ret. Pally. I'd get it.
评论来自
146594
OK, so yes, it's not the most powerful weapon for it's level..but it certainly looks
Awesome
评论来自
Fantic
I dont understand why Blizz made this the pally reward. Not only is it bad stats for all other blues around that lvl (Sin'dorei Warblade), but its a polearm. As far as i know, polearms dont even appear untill lvl 51. Its not like you can just visit the AH and pick up a good quality pole arm between 20 and 58. lvl 30 you can pick up the Viscous Hammer, at 43 the Executioner's Cleaver. 51 Lord Alexander's Battle Axe or even better, the ice barbed spear. And the IBS should last till 58 when you enter outlands.
Its really bad if you compair to the alliance mace, but its even worse when you dont really have another polearm to take its place. I have lvled 2 warriors and a pally to 70, and never once used a polearm.
评论来自
75301
All you guys who complain about this not having good enough stats to be worth getting are missing the point. You get it because you're a Horde Paladin, and this is your weapon! There's a lot of great lore for the Blood Knights, and this weapon is part of it. If you're a druid, even if you don't plan on speccing Feral, you still go ahead and get your Bear and Cat forms, 'cause that's part of being a druid. Same thing here; it doesn't matter if you're going to use this or not, you get it because you're a Paladin, dammit, and you deserve a Paladin's weapon! =D
评论来自
Draenors
Antubis does have a point, to some extend. This weapon is pretty cool to have. It's the Blood Knight weapon. It proves that you actually took the troubble to enter a few instances instead of just using the sword from the Ghostlands-quest.
But of course, Articon is right that the Druid's Bear Form is learned for other reasons that the lore and stuff.
My idea to improve this weapon would be to boost the stats so that it is clearly better than the Sin'Dorei Warblade. And possible to lower the dungeon-requirements, or maybe even remove them completely.
EDIT: And of course, Paladins should know the polearm-skill from the beginning of the game! After going through several dungeons to get this weapon, you can't even USE IT before having paid - how much is it, 1g? - to the weapon trainer! Stupid, indeed!
评论来自
Shivacode
Patch 2.4.2 and they still haven't bothered to buff this thing.
Skip it and buy something off the AH. Or better yet get one of the 2 weapons out of SFK.
评论来自
169060
what is the difference between verigan fist and this blood pole-arms? kinda cool have this blade. anyway, can anyone show me another good pole-arms? i mean better than this at level 30..thx :P
评论来自
240993
I'm pretty much in agreement with the general feeling of poor-ness that surrounds this weapon,. but I disagree with many comments.
It's categoricly better than
Huanting Blade
or
Sin'dorei Warblade
.
First, the attack power benefits for Paladins from extra strength are very poor per point of strength. So that +10 Strength on the Warblade is mostly for show, it helps with sheild more, but not 2-handers attack abilities. Likewise It strikes more often than both weapons leading to far more activations of seal and some judgment abilities, that means that most if not all of the DPS loss compard to the Haunting Blade is irellevent.
The real killer is that it's only SLIGHTLY better than most othe 2 handers of the same level, meaning it will be obcelete in no time, and that
Reforged Quel'dorei Crest
plus the
Butcher's Slicer
, are much better and both come from quests inside the insances you have to enter to get the Ranseur.
The reason they are better is that Butcher's Slicer is just as fast stricking, (so it has the same activation rate on Seals), and the Ranseur only has 16% more DPS than the Slicer. You also get a +5 Stamina bonus from the Pair, and when combined with the block ability and extra armour of the Sheild, you gain far more in durability than you lose in damage.
Only the loss of intellect hurts, and it's not massive enough to really justify the switch.
The issue with thsi weapon is siply that unlike allmost every other quest reward i've seen to date, it is NOT massivlly supiriour to anything else you can get via drops at the stage you get it at. The Sin'dorei Warblade is bassiclly the best thing you'll have till the Ranseur, around 5 levels later for example.
To fix it isn't hard, +5 damage would certianly bring it's DPS up enough to make a bit better, but the biggest fix it would benefit from would be increased parry chance and fixing the usless strength buff. The Strength buff gives minimal DPS boosts, so in the end it's a pntless buff. If that was changed to an agility bonus then it would be vastly better, simply because that adds to critical, parry, dodge, and armour values, all at once. As a result sheilds + one-handers at this level aren't as good, especially for soloing, and the strong critical and parry chances enhance it's damage still furthar.
My vershion would be:
50-75 Damage
2.9 Speed
+10 Agility
+10 Stamina
+10 Intellect
Bonus: +5% Parry Chance
评论来自
251762
I agree with most of these comments. It does seem odd that a better weapon drops in the very instance you need to run to acquire one of the four items needed to get the Ranseur reward. But in my case, it doesn't matter. I did the runs and got the mats for this quest anyway, not only to be rewarded with the Ranseur as no other class ever will be, but also because it's about the story and the lore, and you do the runs because that's what a Horde/Blood Knight loyal Paladin is supposed to do. Any other quests and instances you run for the loot; for this quest it's purely about achievement and loyalty. I won't be using the Ranseur personally as I picked up an axe in RFK that does more damage, but I'm going to keep it anyway, just so I can say I have it. And also because I don't want to use 2H weapons because I don't like giving up the added armor of a shield in order to equip a 2H. Maybe in higher levels I'll consider a 2H weapon depending on the stats, but questing solo at lvl 30 I'll hold on to the added armor of a shield for now.
评论来自
Skullcandy
I really like this polearm. The quest is fairly simple, and it definitely upgrades my
Sin'Dorei Warblade.
The Ranseur a few things.
1) You lose four Strength... big whoop. Even as a Ret Paladin, I see a major difference between this and the Warblade.
2) You gain five Stamina. I don't know about you, but I like staying alive...
3) You get six Intellect, which, while the least appealing to me, is still appealing. I run out of mana after five or so pulls. I like to keep my downtime to a minimum. This helps.
4) The
'marked' DPS
is higher than the Warblade. There is a difference of 1.5 damage per second... which isn't that great, except that the Warblade is half a second slower than the Ranseur, which means that the Ranseur has to be be hitting higher per hit anyway.
5) The speed! I hate slow weapons. Anything over three seconds is killer for me. I'm still not really sure how hit less often (as with a slow weapon) makes a proc more likely to happen. If someone were kind enough to explain...
Anyway. The two weapons are both good, and I like the look of both (I use them as RP weapons) I feel that the Ranseur is far better than the Warblade
评论来自
177671
You might hate slow weapons, but that does not change the fact that a paladin should favor them. Seal of Command is set to proc 7 times per minute, borrowing from SoCom's page:
The formula for SoC proc rate is:
With a 3.8 weapon speed, the proc rate on this seal is 44%.
Basically, the faster your weapon, the weaker your SoCom procs will be. And seeing how SoCom is the bread and butter of a levelling Retri pally, you would not want to weaken it, right? By giving up Strength and weapon slowness, you're REALLY gimping your DPS.
评论来自
240993
@Belina: When I wrote that post i was under the mistaken impreshion, (because of a bad post i read somwhere), that AP wwas 1 per point of S for pallys, not 2, I also didn't know about the PPM system at the time.
However your point about the parry rating kind of misses the big point about this weapon, it's only meant to last you 5-10 levels as a soloing weapon. As long as it dosen't gimp your DPS in any major way you can handle instances just fine. The parry chance, (actually it should probably be parry rating but you get the idea), helps the soloing greatly, and agaility helps crit which helps DPS a lot more, it also adds to dodge chance. It's a weapon with a mix of offence and defence in mind.
@Nebbie: Disengage your twink mode and engage your brain for a moment please.
1. Yes it procs on less hits, but it's still provccing just as many times per minute on average, thats what PPM means, even the SoC internal cooldown isn't going to mess that up. SoO only the lower damage is going to cut into your SoC damage, and guess what, your base melee damage makes up a lot more of your total DPS than your SoC procs. it just isn't that significant a change during soloing, (at this level, obviously in endgame/twink gear it's another matter).
2. Soloing is about more than just dealing huge DPS numbers. It's also about coming out of each encounter without so much damage/mana loss that you need to take a significant break. It's also about having enough reserves to handle things when you get unexpected situations/adds. That is significantly easier with the bonus Stamina and Int this gives you.
3. Not everyone uses SoC for soloing, indeed you should never ALLWAYS use SoC for soloing, for some situations you'll want SoL or SoW, (or prior to this SoR with the appropriate judgment since the SoR damage gives a garunteed extra chance of a proc on every auto attack hit). I tried and discarded SoC from my spec as simply not worth having for that very reason. If I use SoC i lose so much health, (and as a result mana, because i'm having to heal), that i have to stop to drink and eat several times more often, there's simply no way, (at the level range you'll be using this at), to get around that, whilst with SoR + JoL i only ever had to worry about drinkin for mana from time to time, which given the 8-10 seconds between judgments, (allowing for a lot of regen if your not having to use other spells), isn't often.
In fact with a +Int enchant I still use this as my healers weapon.
My main complaint with the weapon remains however, while not significantly worse than the 1 or 2 better alternatives, and slightly better than most, (for soloing), it's still not heads and shoulder above the competition as a quest reward, (especially one that needs you to go to so many instances), ushually is, and, (given it's a class quest as well), really should be.
评论来自
flameroller
For those of you who are unhappy about how weak this weapon is (which comparing to other ones it is if only slightly) you should realize that this can almost be entirely soloed at level 20! Corrupted kor gem; Kill level 20-21 non elite nagas outside BFD (both sides do this same part).
Crate of bloodforged ingots; This you can do with another pally doing the quest. One of you heals while the other holds threat on the boss and 2 other mobs (which can be CCed btw).
Blood of the wrathfull; Relatively easy to solo at 20 and I did it on my blood elf at 21 in RFC.
Blood knight insignia; Completely soloable and it's already been said above how to do this (go to the page for this quest and on the right is the other quests in the chain where other people have said how to do them). Now go ahead and TRY and solo 3/4 of the alliance version at level 21.... need a hint? You can't! To find out why not go to this page and look at those quests and read the comments and you will see how alliance can only do 2/4 of their quests solo (or without at least one 5 man group and at least 2 manning the sfk boss) so be glad yours is easier. Now if you ask "do you think this weapon should be better?" my answer would be yes and harder to make up for it. Here's the thing though, horde has quite a few quests with much, much better rewards than alliance quests later on in the game until outlands. This game is actually in favor of horde players and blizzard actually USED to cater to the horde SO much more than alliance. If you ask me I can actually point out specific quest rewards to you to prove it. In TBC and now WOTLK however most quests have basically the same rewards (at least the ones that matter ala blues) so I think they realized that they were subconsciously doing it and decided to make things equal.
Edit: Forgot to mention the difficult but not impossible to do Daphne Stilwell 3 wave fight.
评论来自
Crimsonfur
I wish I hadn't sold this, the weapon is gorgeous, But I replaced it with a weapon in BFD before I could even wield it, the stats might need a bit of buffing, I'd say.
评论来自
ninjasqurl
I see this hasnt been mentioned yet, but the
Arced War Axe
is a simple drop from
Commander Springvale
in Shadowfang Keep. And if you are in there to do the quest, might as well take a trip up and kill him. Its a notable upgrade to your Sindorei Warblade and almost as good as
Verigan's Fist
if you are Horde.
Oh and before someone says "Well you would have to level your 2h Axe skill" I want to remind you that, you have to do the same with Polearms as well.
评论来自
318556
Blood-Tempered Ranseur
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Polearm
45 - 69 Damage Speed 2.90
(19.7 damage per second)
+6 Strength
+9 Stamina
+6 Intellect
Durability 80 / 80
The item never said about you having to be a pally to equip so when you dont need this item you can give it to a warrior along with some silver (your character) becuase it also never talked about required lvl! So with this you can lvl up your pally then mail it to your warrior or hunter
评论来自
264711
The stats are fine, at most this could at least use a small DPS boost, especially considering we have to pay up a gold to learn the polearm skill, and alliance paladins start with a 2h mace skill, not to mention that we are doing the same amount of work for a worse item.
At most you could at least use a lesson in logic.
评论来自
mmpedersen
@Thekingotown:
Dude, the quote is perfectly right... I couldn't have said it better myself -_-*. This weapon is extremely underpowered compared to Verigan's Fist!
And by the way, that one gold you have to pay for polearm skill is just annoying >_<.
评论来自
405552
I wouldnt get it. its a waist of time and you have to do 3 instances might as well getarced war axe
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=3191
or haunting blade
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=6641
both foun in sfk!
评论来自
454001
Looks much more like a partisan than a ranseur to me.
评论来自
516366
I like the look and all that but I still think thatthe Haunting Blade is better.
评论来自
frmorrison
Patch 3.2 (August 2009) buffed this weapon to the current stats. Before it is pretty bad, now it may be worth it if you do not have a heirloom 2H Axe. It is certainly better than the Alliance Equivalent Verigain's Fist.
Here are the old stats:
Blood-Tempered Ranseur
Two-Hand Polearm
45 - 69 Damage Speed 2.90
(19.7 damage per second)
+6 Strength
+9 Stamina
+6 Intellect
So went from item level 23 to 27 and had a better stat spread (int is bad, crit is good) as well a slow speed (very good, 2.9 Weapons are bad).
评论来自
Baelof
What happens if you faction-change with this weapon? Is it converted to Verigan's Fist or is it destroyed?
Just faction changed my Blood Elf to Draenei and I'm confirming that this is still in my inventory, same with the Sin'dorei Warblade and Bloodhawk Claymore.
评论来自
Archadae
Unfortunately unobtainable since 4.0.1, as they removed the whole chain.
评论来自
777607
I'm going to miss questing for this weapon...My Paladin just un-equipped his and now I'm afraid of selling it :\
评论来自
303661
I still have my Ransuer from the quest line long ago. I intend to keep it always, and forever. Glory to the Blood Knights! Glory to the Sin'dorei!
评论来自
878527
I'm sad to see this removed, my funniest memory from my early days playing is leveling a new Bear tank at the beginning of BC. Myself and the whole group was new to the game and didn't know about this quest in RFC, and the pally declined to tell us what she was opening up the side boss. So I charge Jerrosh and mid fight I look behind me and there's a Belf pally screaming for help and being chased in a circle by a giant demon from out of nowhere. I know it's not informative, but it's one of those little things about WoW that keeps me coming back to this game.
评论来自
briare
Such a pity this item was removed, it makes me seriously regret deleting my blood elf who had it. The maces from the new pally quest are really nice, but there was just no beating this for aesthetics until you can get the level needed for the quest that gives
泰罗克的羽毛
. Even then it’s not an exact copy.
评论来自
Saikusu
You'd think that by now people would try and ask: "Could this possibly make a comeback as a replica item from the Replica Vendors?" or possibly a new model that uses the same coloration but with better detail with how advanced they're getting with MoP... But unfortunately with
泰罗克的羽毛
using the same model, it's just a hopeful idea of a reskin for those that had the original or yearned to obtain it again. Although I am still semi-new to The World of Warcraft, I'm still very well aware of people missing things and the possibilities of old items being purchasable or obtainable from questing would probably make things a LOT better...
评论来自
pjammers
With the new changes to transmog rules coming up in patch 5.2... There is a strong possibility that polearms will be able to transmog onto whatever your 2-hander type is. Polearms will explode in transmog popularity.
I really hope they bring this back someday, or at least have the option to get it within a small window of time. Or something! This quest was only available at a time when there was no transmog option in sight or mind, and the stats were lukewarm at best.
You couldn't blame paladins for throwing it away, basically. I kept mine for a year until I needed the bank space and threw it away. I deeply regret it. Gives us the option to bring it back. Make it a GOLD-SINK that MoP is so fond of.
I'll pay a LOT of money to get this back.
评论来自
pjammers
The horror to all those who did not save this polearm for transmogging years before it was a possibility...
Bo-ris, Horror in the Night
.
The horror... Indeed!
评论来自
AxeloftheKey
You know, by Draenei Paladin still has this item. I faction changed my Blood Elf Paladin into a Draenei a while ago. So now I have a now unobtainable item on the opposite faction.
XD
评论来自
Mattarias
I DIDN'T THROW THIS AWAY!
With the discovery that Blizz brought back strength polearms, I immediately accosted a mage for a portal back to Orgrimmar, where I was able to check my bank and found that, indeed, my Ranseur was still there. Oh glorious day!
Now, time to power to 90 and get that fabled strength spear. ANAR'ALA BELORE!
评论来自
503532
Wow, lots of comments on this weapon! I had this, and accidentally disenchanted it, a little while before Item Restoration existed. I never thought of opening a ticket back then either, being a noob. I've bothered several GMs to reinstate it to me; but there's no record that it ever existed on my character—and now I see why they can't, it's no longer in the game. :( Thanks a lot Blizzard. I just got Terokk's Quill today. It's not my old Ransure, but it will have to do. It's the best Polearm model in the game, EVER!
评论来自
558778
I have a question.
I recently faction changed my Human Paladin (Who has Verigan's Fist!) to a Blood Elf Paladin, I still have it in my bank. I assumed it would of been automatically converted, but it wasn't.
If I put in a ticket, would a GM swap out the item for the Horde equivalent?
评论来自
uberdude47
Just merged my old account and I saw my old Blood Elf Pally had this weapon. Made my day :D
评论来自
SoooWhoCares
> Unique texture
"Hey let's permanently remove that from the game."
"Brilliant idea. Just make sure you don't add an item with the same texture and model to the world."
"Hahaha, yeah. Thanks for reminding me about that."
Welcome to transmog hell.
评论来自
Mikula
It makes me sad to see that this was removed with Cataclysm - it was one of those weapons I was always a little too nostalgic (thankfully) to delete from my bank.
For months, hunting
布里托马特的锯齿长矛
I kept saying over and over to my guild ''i'm gonna use the Blood Elf Paladin polearm to transmog, it's gonna be awesome to finally have a reason to run around with it again'' - only to be lead here from the armoury page when I was gonna link it.
I do hope blizzard will implement class chains again at some point. This one and the Charger... hooo boy those Blood Knights put you to work. Apologies for rambling :)
评论来自
Commotion
I recently faction changed from Horde to Alliance and I can still use this T-mog! I was certain it would be deleted or changed but to my surprise it's exactly the same.
评论来自
joezu
This gives hope to all horde paladins!
When you log in to Legion, all of the items you have are unlocked, as well as items from every quest you have ever completed, including items you didn't even pick.
World of Warcraft: Legion - Game Systems Panel
评论来自
kellorion
Legion
ITS BACK!
评论来自
glor44
I am happy other people will be able to experience this transmog. But I am sad for myself, as I am one of the very few people who had the patience to keep this before any rumor or transmog, or before they even let you use polearm transmog for 2h swords.
This was my favorite piece of gear in the game, I love collecting and I was very proud of it. If this becomes available to every person who was a blood elf paladin at that time I will not be playing wow anymore.
评论来自
GrahamRhoads
I want Blizzard to bring this weapon back. I want Blizzard to bring this weapon back sooooooo badly.
评论来自
503532
According to recent Blue posts and Wowhead news:
"Items rewarded from every quest you have ever completed"
will be restored to you. Blizzard also mentioned specifically bringing back Class Specific items (
quote needed
), such as the Blood-Tempered Ranseur.
But
how
they intend to do this has not been made clear. Will the Ranseur be available only to those who completed the original questline before Cataclysm; or will Blood Elf Paladins who came to the game after Cataclysm be able to earn it? Will it only be available to Blood Elf Paladins, or can any Paladin transmog to it? If there is a new one, will it have the same name, or just the same appearance? We'll have to wait and find out.
All I can say is that this is my favorite polearm in the game, and possibly my favorite weapon, period. I accidentally disenchanted mine one day in Cataclysm before we had the
Item Restore
system, and I've tried several times without success to get it restored to me. It would be very awesome to have this baby once again!
评论来自
Greshloc
I can confirm that a GM will restore the item no matter how long ago it was deleted.
I sold mine before Cata and a GM was able to restore for me today. He/she was very nice and stated that this is one of the few they actually restore as long as you completed the quest in the past.
评论来自
DraethDarkstar
Can't remember if your Blood Knight earned one of these back in the day? I couldn't either.
Want to find out? Paste this into your chat on the character in question:
/script print(IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(9710))
(That's
, the quest which actually rewarded this item.)
If you get back 'true' or '1' then congratulations, come Legion pre-patch, you'll be able to transmog this bad boy, even if you don't have the item anymore. If you get 'false' or 'nil' then I'm sorry, I'm so, so sorry.
Edit: As of the most recent PTR update, Blood-Tempered Ranseur is now correctly populating in the wardrobe. You may need to re-copy your character to receive credit for it. Class and Race restrictions have also been lifted, so you can use it on any character that can wield polearms.
评论来自
312434
If you're a BC Blood Elf Paladin, and you didn't keep your ranseur, it's now in the Legion transmog system. Worth the price of admission to Legion IMHO.
评论来自
Dawnrider
If you're a polearm wielding class. You can now transmog this if your paladin got it back before the quest was removed. My warrior is currently dual wielding this puppy.
评论来自
Rampager
Another unique looking weapon that got removed and that I once had.
*sigh*
评论来自
Lostelf
Why did blizzard remove this questline anyway? It really set the tone for the blood knight order was and it had this amazing polearm at the end of it. Their removal of existing class questlines for cataclysm was completely nonsensical.
评论来自
ErikWarhammer
I remember doing the quest on an alt long ago but wound up deleting them...
Wouldn't be too bad, if I didn't See NPCs using this weapon. :(
评论来自
Kornek21
i checked now for my Blood-Tempered Ranseur after getting Terokk's Quill weapon and i dont have it in my wardrobe, contacted a GM about it since i know i completed it during TBC, the GM was so unhelpfull that i closed the chat on him, so for anyone missing the Blood-Tempered Ranseur, dont contact the GMs, they wont help you at all, i miss the GM's from the ireland office
评论来自
marcialhd
Blizzard really should find a way to re-add this model in-game, i mean even they outright say it's the Blood Knights order weapon of choice yet there is no way for newer players to get it anymore, seriously was it really that difficult for them to put this as a reward in the Cataclysm version of the level 20 class quest instead of that ugly hammer they gave us? i mean we still can get the tabard, so why not the weapon?
评论来自
Queentastic
IT SEEMS LIKE THIS ITEM COMES BACK FOR 9.2.5 AS A COSMETIC REWARD
陨落骑士的长矛
评论来自
Lostelf
This model is now available again in 9.2.5!
Found near a cauldron and the body of
血骑士伊斯塔·晨星
you'll be able to grab
陨落骑士的长矛
.
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淬血长矛
物品等级:17
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双手
长柄武器
4 - 9点伤害
速度 3.60
(每秒伤害1.8)
+3 力量
+3 耐力
+4暴击
耐久: 95 / 95
售价:
1
15
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