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评论来自
yoink
I got this enchant from Moroes the other night, I am not 375 yet, but I will be soon.
I am on Cenarius Horde.
评论来自
20387
I got this from Moroes on Eredar (Alliance)
评论来自
Starfox
"... and attack speed slightly."
Yea, it's +2% so really slightly :>
评论来自
19117
Big Bad Wolf Claw with Mongoose. 125 thrown shots, 15 bow shots.
Zero procs. Assumption is that within a small margin of error it doesn't proc from ranged. So stick with you 35 agility unless you are raptor strike spec'd -_-
评论来自
Reanna
Can we get an update on what color/style glow this adds to a weapon?
评论来自
Reznap
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7178/mongoosenn5.jpg
I can confirm that the lightning speed effect does indeed stack.
评论来自
25412
I'm curious, anyone out there have this enchant master looted to them? I'm wondering since my raid group always uses master loot, and the master looter is not an enchanter, if he'll even be able to see it if it drops.
评论来自
Gymnos
The amount you should expect to pay for this enchant is around 942 gold. :p
评论来自
33359
Does anyone have a feel for how often the enchant procs from a single weapon? Is it similar to Crusader in frequency? I'm trying to get a feel if the 15 Agi enchant or this enchant would be better in PvE. Thanks.
评论来自
Gere
I'd run a procwatch on it but I only have it on my OH until I upgrade my Drakefist hammer. I guess I could go autoattack something with just my OH weapon equipped.
评论来自
34029
Just wondering, with sword combat spec'd rogue, with the "chance for extra attack," would this have a chance of proc'ing on that "extra attack," if so, that would make it seem to proc most with a combat sword rogue, than any other class, of course it also depends on weapon speed, but still.
评论来自
Primax
How long does the proc effect last for?
What is the proc rate like?
评论来自
36866
Proc Watch in Karazhan for 4 hours....Mongoose on Emerald Ripper (1.8 spd) and Riftmaker (1.8 spd)....3.6 ppm. Proc watch on single Mongoose on Emerald Ripper over same time period in Karazhan week prior...2.6 ppm. Correction on the above post, it's a 10 second buff. When 1 hand stacks on itself, the timer extends to 13-15 seconds.
评论来自
37727
i currently have mongoose on my malchazeen, and 15agi on my blade of the unrequited. is it worth it to replace the 15agi on my offhand with mongoose. mats are not a problem to obtain.
评论来自
39196
I have this enchant on my rogues main hand Blinkstrike "
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=31332"
with 5/5 in Sword Specialization and it procs often. Yes it procs about as much as . But if you are using ProcWatch, the first proc will say "You agian Lightning Speed" if it procs agian within 15 seconds it will not say it in combat log but it will rebuff the current proc.
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Lightninghoof&n=Adummim
评论来自
37560
The lightning speed will reduce a weapon's speed from 2.60 to 2.55, roughly.
Dual-wielding weapons both enchanted with mongoose, and both procs, a further reduction to 2.50, roughly.
It would seem like the weapon speed increase is negligible.
120 agility is VERY nice though.
评论来自
27334
4/3/2007: 2.0.10 Patch changed the icon of the mongoose enchant from the BlueLighting icon (shown in the screen shot) to the revised image. The bolt now has splash damage around the impact point.
评论来自
Akane
I'm wondering when any of the karazhan enchants drop... if the loot mode is set to master loot still everyone will see the roll o just the master looter (even if he is not enchanter), coz if this drop and all enchanters get to roll there could be some ninja! <:o
评论来自
41292
Does anyone know if this works with druids in bear or cat form??
评论来自
Vesper
Vitality (rogue talent) also affects the 120 agility when you gain Lightning Speed. The 2% increase to agility is almost neglible but every bit helps. So when you have 2/2 Vitality you will gain 122-123 agility (whether you gain 2 or 3 agility is based on rounding factors).
The attack speed is multiplicated with all other attack speed increases (from abilities/procs/trinkets and pots). For example with SnD up your attack speed is increased to 133%.
Very expensive enchant and worth every penny :D
评论来自
38144
The enchant glow has been changed again. It is now a softer green, similar to the one found on the +15 Agility enchant.
评论来自
43663
The question is, can the new good loocking glow be seen through the glows that the weapon has without enchants? For example can you see the glow effect of mongoose in your Gladiator's Slicer?
评论来自
48582
is this enchant good for a tank warrior ? with the sun eater (
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=29362
) ??
评论来自
adamthemute
Would this be a good enchant on a 2 hander?
评论来自
39607
Guys, you all talk about sword rogue... so how about dagger rogues? Is it good for mutilate specced rogue and on what hand?
评论来自
48582
whats better for a tank this or battel master ?
评论来自
14687
Enough about rogues, this is a great tanking weapon enchant. The proc adds 4% dodge rating and 300 armor. It is THE tanking weapon enchant bar none and it procs about the same rate as crusader.
评论来自
reveal
how is this enchant for arms warriors ?
I'm almost done upgrading my weapon from thunder to deep thunder ...
And doubting between getting this or just +35 agil / Savagery
评论来自
Kerghan
I got this on my arms warrior's axe recently (after patch 2.1) and I'm not satisfied with it. I've found that it rarely procs and when it does, the bonus to your critical strike percentage is less than one would imagine because agility seems to have diminishing returns. The more you get, the less crit you'll get out of it. I expected the boost to be around 4.80 percent, since i have 118 agility and that gives me 4.72 percent extra crit according to the tooltip when I highlight it on my character sheet, but the bonus from the 120 agility proc is 3.64. The 2 percent attack speed is kind of a joke...yeah, so I deal normal (white) melee damage and build rage 2 percent faster for the relatively short duration, assuming my target is constantly standing right next to me (which is rare when fighting a lot of classes in pvp). Big deal.
I'd assume that Mongoose is much better for any class that attacks really fast. The buff lasts 15 seconds, so without any other attack speed modifiers, that extra crit percentage is only good for about 4 of my autoattacks after it procs. A class that attacks fast could potentially hit many more times during the duration of the proc.
I probably should have gone with Savagery instead. The constant effect is much more reliable and far cheaper, not to mention the cool new bleeding effect. Also, keep in mind that the damage gained from the extra ap of Savagery is also doubled when you crit, since melee crits are double damage. I see it this way: slightly extra damage constantly with each attack is probably more favorable than each attack having a chance to slightly increase your chance to deal much more damage for a very short while. There's a lot of luck involved with that.
评论来自
Juggernaut
The proc rate is awesome, imo this enchant is a lot better than savagery for 2h warriors.
评论来自
Smorfty
so I guess this is the best tanking enchant too?
评论来自
Grimerz
With current auction house prices, this is a 350-400g enchant with competitive pricing
Void Crystal - low 20's apiece
Arcane Dust - 40-50g a stack (i got a really good deal on 2 stacks for 50g)
Planar Essence x10 - 45-50g
Shards - 15-20g apiece
So be prepared to drop a few hundered ^_^
(came off Arthas)
评论来自
52693
ok, what does mongoos even do to your wepon, other then make it spark lightning
评论来自
BaronB
The prices has gone up a lot.. (or maybe just our server where evrything has always been expansive..) Yes im talking about Horde on Frostwhisper^^ .. as ah is atm:
Void - 40g each = 240g
Arcane dust - 60-75g stack = 120-150g
Planar essencex10 - 70-80g = 70-80g
Prismatics - 30-35g each = 300-350g
total = 730-820g
So.. yeah... but its still worth it! xD
评论来自
emanuelrc
Mongoose Dual-Proc's if you have it on both weapons, but also resets it self... If your main or off hand proc's twice it will reset. It will only dual-proc if both weapons proc within 15seconds of each other.
http://static.filefront.com/images/personal/e/emanuelrc/101492/cydzcxvttf.jpg
Rc @ Grim Batol
"...rogues do it from behind"
评论来自
45360
I'm still in a battle regarding this enchant and
http://www.cuckhead.com/?spell=42620
the next patch.
Anyone that has any calculation with the PPM making this enchant better than the above for a tank? :-)
评论来自
75468
Hey I am an MS warrior and am raid DPS. I am really contemplating whether Mongoose would be good for raiding on my 2H or if I should just stick to savagery. I'd appreciate some help in making this decision. I have seen alot of people in my battlegroup who have Gorehowl/ Axe of the Gronn Lords using mongoose on their weapon.
评论来自
5027
This page is just for the formula drop! Please keep comments about the actual enchantment on its own page!
http://www.cuckhead.com/?spell=27984
评论来自
49327
as with most BoP recipes that have a static drop area, the requirement to see it is to have someone with the tradeskill to use it present so the droprate won't be accurate as some groups will have killed Moroes without an enchanter present.
however, it's likely that the majority of raids going in there would have an enchanter present to turn the epic drops into shards when nobody wants them. The droprate may be close due to that but it should be slightly higher then stated.
评论来自
86229
So....from what I've read so far it works best on the heavy slow weapons best. If thats the case, is this enchant better than the 35 agility enchant? I mean the 35 agility is constant while the mongoose has to proc. I'm just not sure which is right for me. I'm a Ret Paladin with a two-hander that is 3.80 attack speed. Thanks for any input on this matter.
评论来自
86573
Does the haste stack with Flurry and/or Thundering Skyfire Diamond?
As a MS warrior, i'd be a happy guy.
Thanks for any information! :)
评论来自
78124
The following is written from a Protection Warrior / Tank's POV. It does *not* apply to melee DPS players.
For a tank who is debating which enchantment, Battlemaster or Mongoose, he/she should put on their weapon, it's helpful to consider two different aspects about both of these enchantments: Threat, and Damage Mitigation.
*
*** THREAT ***
*
Mongoose increases agility by 120 and weapon speed by 2% for 15 sec; this effect will proc roughly 1.4 times a minute with a fast tanking sword (thank you jmdbcool for your excellent explanation above), which means that this effect will be active on average 21 seconds out of every minute.
For warriors, that 120 agility translates to:
- 3.6% increase chance to crit
- 240 armor class increase
- 4.0% increase chance to dodge
To see how much that 3.6% chance to crit affects your threat, we have to draw a combat table. (Be sure to read the WoWWiki article on combat tables
http://www.wowwiki.com/Attack_table
if you aren't familiar with the concept.) Now let's assume that a warrior, Imatank, is a 70 human who has 5 extra racial skill points in the weapon of his choice, a sword, that combined with his attack power generates 150 damage per second and a 10% chance to crit. Against a level 73 mob or ?? boss and without any +hit gear, his combat table would look like
Imatank Attacking ??:
% to miss ---------------- 6.0%
% to dodge --------------- 5.6%
% to parry --------------- 5.6%
% glancing blow ---------- 25.0%
% to block --------------- 5.6%
% to crit ---------------- 10.0%
% to hit ----------------- 42.2%
Since crits strike for 200% damage, and glancing blows ~70%, the total amount of DPS landing on the ?? boss comes out to...
150 * ( 42.2% + + )
= 150 * ( 79.7% )
= 119.55 DPS
Over a 60 sec time period, that totals up to roughly 7,175 threat.
Now, when we add the 3.6% crit chance and 2% attack speed increase (simplified as a 2% increase in DPS) from the Mongoose buff, that combat table changes into...
Imatank Attacking ??:
% to miss ---------------- 6.0%
% to dodge --------------- 5.6%
% to parry --------------- 5.6%
% glancing blow ---------- 25.0%
% to block --------------- 5.6%
% to crit ---------------- 13.6%
% to hit ----------------- 38.6%
150 * ( 38.6% + + ) * 1.02
= 150 * ( 83.3% ) * 1.02
= 127.45 DPS
127.45 - 119.55 = 7.9 DPS increase
Keeping in mind that this buff is only active for 21 sec each minute, the extra damage/threat generated by this buff each minute is 166.
How does this compare with the other main weapon enchantment, Battlemaster?
Battlemaster has a chance on hit to heal all party members for 180 - 300 (avg 240), and it has a similar proc rate as Mongoose at 1.4 proc per minute with a fast weapon. Assuming that the wielder's party members are all taking damage, and none of the procs are over-healing (which generates no threat), the threat generated comes out to...
240 heal * 5 PartyMembers * 1.4 PPM * 0.5 ThreatPerHeal = 840 threat
Realistically, only half of a raiding party is going to be taking damage at any given time, so that threat amount is reduced to an average of 400 threat per minute. (However, there is the added advantage that if things start to get out of hand for a party and all members start taking damage, a well-timed Battlemaster proc that maximizes the amount of threat generated could help divert attention away from the accosted party members and onto the tank.)
Comparing these two numbers, 166 Threat Per Minute generated by Mongoose and 400 threat generated by Battlemaster, it is evident that
BATTLEMASTER GENERATES MORE THREAT THAN MONGOOSE
.
*
*** DAMAGE MITIGATION ***
*
Remember that the 120 agility buff from Mongoose not only increased a warrior's critical strike chance by 3.6%, but also increased his armor by 240 and dodge chance by 4.0%. How does that affect his overall damage mitigation? Again, a combat table is necessary to analyze the change.
Let's suppose that our Warrior from earlier, Imatank, is again fighting a 73 mob or ?? boss. Imatank has lots of blue equipment, but no epics, and as a result has 12000 HP, 12000 armor, and 490 points of defense. He also has a 15% chance to dodge, parry and block. Therefore, if we assume that the boss is dealing a conservative 2000 DPS to Imatank, his combat table vs. the ?? boss would look like...
?? attacking Imatank:
% to miss ---------------- 10.0%
% to dodge --------------- 14.4%
% to parry --------------- 14.4%
% to block --------------- 14.4% * (absorbs roughly 25% damage vs. Bosses)
% to crit ---------------- 0.0% ** (in theory)
% crushing blow --------- 15.0% *** (150% damage)
% to hit ----------------- 31.8%
2000 * ( 31.8% + + + )
= 2000 * ( 65.1% )
= 1302 unavoided DPS
Since armor mitigation against a level 73 or ?? opponent is = AC / ( AC + 11960 ), Imatank's 12000 armor class gives him 50.08% damage mitigation, which further reduces his incoming damage to a total of * 650 DPS * , unavoided, unmitigated. With 12000 hp, he has * 18.5 * seconds to live before he dies.
With the 4% dodge and 240 ac Mongoose buff on, however, his combat table now appears as...
?? attacking Imatank:
% to miss ---------------- 10.0%
% to dodge --------------- 18.4%
% to parry --------------- 14.4%
% to block --------------- 14.4% * (absorbs roughly 25% damage vs. Bosses)
% to crit ---------------- 0.0% ** (in theory)
% crushing blow --------- 15.0% *** (150% damage)
% to hit ----------------- 27.8%
2000 * ( 27.8% + + + )
= 2000 * ( 61.1% )
= 1222 unavoided DPS
With Imatank's armor class now at 12240 thanks to Mongoose, his new damage mitigation of 50.58% further reduces his incoming damage to a total of * 604 DPS * , unavoided, unmitigated. With 12000 hp, he now has * 19.9 * seconds to live before he dies.
According to this sample study, the Mongoose buff reduces the amount of damaged being absorbed by a tank by 7.6%, or 46dps. Over the average 21 second duration (1.4 PPM * 15 sec), Mongoose will mitigate 966 points of damage per minute. Compare this with the Battlemaster enchant, which only heals on average 336 points of damage over the same time period.
Comparing these two numbers, 966 points of damage mitigation from Mongoose vs. 336 points of healing from Battlemaster, it is clear that
MONGOOSE MITIGATES MORE DAMAGE THAN BATTLEMASTER
.
*
*** CONCLUSIONS ***
*
So back to the original question: Which enchantment should a warrior choose for his/her tanking weapon? The answer depends on both the weapon, and the situation.
In situations within heroics and facing "trash" raid mobs, where threat is unwieldy to manage and rage difficult to generate, a weapon geared more towards DPS (Fireguard, or Blinkstrike) and enchanted with the threat-heavy Battlemaster is ideal. However, during dangerous boss battles, where a well-timed dodge can prevent a costly raid-wipe, a more defensive weapon (Sun Eater or King's Defender) combined with the damage mitigation of Mongoose is far more appropriate.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
评论来自
87093
I had this with my Warrior before I created a new account.
Lunar Crescent + Mongoose Ench = Amazing.
Ofcourse it's better with 1 handed but I really liked this :)
Pretty expensive but awesome when you got it, worth to get!
评论来自
96303
yea you can enchant a 2h with mongoose, its on my deep thunder and i reccomend it. i know savagery seems better, but mongoose gives me about 3% crit chance and speed.also 240+ armor
评论来自
gric111
if the choice is between battlemaster and mongoose, mongoose is probably the better choice however a smart tank should never use a proc reliant enchant for anything IMO 20 agility constantly gives you less mitigation then mongoose but is constant there is not relying on it procing to do anything you get your dodge crit armor all constants
评论来自
100627
I've recently crafted a Drakefist Hammer and I'm having second thoughts whether to pay an enchanter to put mongoose because when I upgrade the Drakefist Hammer into a Dragonmaw the mongoose enchant might not be there anymore. Will the enchant like Mongoose be removed when a weapon like the Drakefist hammer gets upgraded to its 2nd and finally 3rd form?
评论来自
ooiownedjoo
Does the glow stack over gladiator wep's normal glow??
评论来自
98702
I got a triple buff from procs. how?
just swing till you get both weapons proc and switch your main hand with a third weapon enchanted with mongoose. with any luck you will see the 3rd buff popping.
theoreticaly you can manage to do 4 ( havent done this one yet) .
just do as i said and enjoy some sweet numbers :D
评论来自
105289
Is there a specific Rogue Talent build that would be best for dual wielding daggers with mongoose?
评论来自
104248
Doesn't devastate qualify as an actual weapon swing ? Therefore, even with a slow weapon, won't MTing toons see more procs? Not sure if any of the proc rate tests you guys did count that in, and I'm not savvy enough to test myself.
评论来自
107632
Quick question: The weapon speed effect applies to both weapons, yes? If I apply it to my main hand, it will give the speed boost to both my main hand and my offhand? I mean, that would only make sense, but I wanted to check before I shelled out 600g on mats for this.
评论来自
IronVeins
Stacking Questions
- If you have Mongoose on one weapon and Crusader on the other weapon when Dual Wielding will the effects stack?
- Does Mongoose overwrite itself or stack with the initial proc for a double effect if it procs twice on one weapon within the duration?
- Can added swings from talents like Reckoning or Rogue's sword spec, special attacks suck as Stormstrike or Devastate, or any other method of adding more attacks per minute increase the proc rate, or is it set in stone at 1.4ppm?
I've heard a lot of different answers and I'm looking for some proof one way or another.
评论来自
Khaled
Does it proc in druid forms?
评论来自
134449
can anyone please tell me if the mongoose effect will still stack off of procs on 2 different weapons. The current comments say yes. But i was told by someone that it doesnt. All of the current comment look pretty old :S
thanks
评论来自
105071
hmmm... I wonder what this looks like on a mace, hmmm?!
( can someone show me?)
评论来自
pik4chu
it does, read the comments please.
评论来自
147819
Hello i was asking my self, whats the best enchant on a 2hander
mongoose, executioner or savagery
.
I am sittign with this question a very long time and i really want a answer on it :P
Thx for you time ^^
评论来自
110498_
mongoose rulez! yesterday i saw rogue 60lvl with 2x sword with mongoose and he kill all without problems :p
评论来自
153200
I am making a 49 Orc Warrior twink with dual Flurry Axes, would this be a good enchant for both of them?
I was also looking at Potency (+20 strength), but wasn't sure.
~Theard
评论来自
96118
This enchant graphic does not show up on the gladiators left and right rippers. What a bummer.
评论来自
cawfee
The proc rate on this is actually quite amazing, provided you have a fast enough weapon. So far, as a rogue with sword spec and Mongoose on both of them, I manage to get at least one proc per mob. The event of them proccing at the same time isn't too far off either, so dual Mongoose is definitely something to be considered unless there's a more viable option for your spec.
评论来自
165707
Hey, is mongoose better then executioner on a ret pally?
评论来自
148723
Now what about mongoose on say...a twink 39 rogue with Vanquisher's Sword and Sword of Omen? Would it be better than firey or other enchants?
评论来自
135362
I've done karazhan plenty of times, never ever seen it drop and never gotten it -_-
Exalted and gotten all the gear I needed and DE'd them already :(
I wanna sell mongoose for ridiculous prices >.<
评论来自
23149
im gonna dual wield mongoose on my ENH shaman! thoughts?????
评论来自
101565
The enchanting drop rates from Karazhan are annoying, stupid, and even more annoying.
Exalted a few times over and my enchanter doesn't have a single one. Very very depressing.
评论来自
166917
It is true about the stack effect if on both weapons and dual wielding. very very nice for a rogue. also I've noticed it sometimes procs when I sap lol which is random
评论来自
112611
Weapon enchants are now shown at the character selection screen.
评论来自
194128
does mongoose proc while in like cat form and stuff if your a feral druid?
评论来自
201766
Does mongoose proc in druid forms? I might want this for my epic two hander (I'm a feral druid), but if it won't proc in cat or bear form, I'll get something else. Plz respond.
评论来自
166026
I'm a protection warrior with enchanting, thought it would be nice getting this one and making it for myself. I really like still doing karazhan as well but this enchant will never drop I think. Already put an adamantite chain weapon on my sword now.
Screw being like everyone else anyway, I got myself some extra avoidance and reduced disarm time.
评论来自
204666
i think mongoose is best for rogues but i hate its for lvl 35+ weapons and all the mats costes over 606g on my server. the mats, void crystal x6, large prismatic shard x10, greater planar essence x80, arcane dust x40,
评论来自
209422
Increases your DPS by 5%.
Costs around 500 gold total.
评论来自
179892
put a screen shot up of a combat log showin mongoose proc off a range attack ive had it happen twice once with my bow and once with my thrown wep the only thing that happen between the shot and the proc was i got healed may have been glitch but u never know
has yet to be put up... :(
评论来自
Samah
I've done Karazhan on two toons almost every single week since it first opened, and I've never seen this drop. Worst drop rate ever.
评论来自
40837
What does it costs average?
评论来自
223320
No comment :P
评论来自
makron
If you are looking for haste buff, this is up only when it procs.
You'd gain more speed with
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=6043
if you are using twohander :) ( permanent 1.27% )
评论来自
nemeru
so... as I saw on one of the screenshots, a druid with Staff of the Forest Lord enchanted with mongoose. I though until now, that it doesn't proc in cat form... or does it? can sumone confirm? I'm getting really confused ^^
评论来自
Madbagofhorses
Anyone have a rough estimate for how much this goes for?
I'm sure it differs from server to server... Anyone have a general idea?
评论来自
oppewala
Since 3.0.2 mongoose now procs in druid forms :D
评论来自
150308
This is currently the best Enhancement Shaman enchant since Shaman's strength to attack power got nerfed to 1:1, and agility got buffed and became 1:1.
评论来自
TheWeeh
New stuff... Weapon enchants now proc in druid forms.. At least fiery / icy chill / lifestealing did for me.
评论来自
olguin
So what do you think, will Moroes be soloable in t7 level gear at 80? I just broke into Kara on my enchanter, so theres no way I'm getting this...but if i could grind for it solo i stand a chance.
评论来自
Infuria
...still the best enchant for 1h dps in wotlk at present.
/sigh.
评论来自
261994
Anyone know if the 2% haste is a set 2% or if it is actually 31.52 haste rating?
评论来自
78028
As of 1st december 2008, I can confirm that upon proc, mongoose still grants 120 agi. The enchant does not have reduced effect for players above level 70, if someone is wondering.
评论来自
fusion305
is the scroll tradeable?
评论来自
78077
Amazingly, despite the absolute shedload of new enchants, this is probably still the pick of enchants to consider for a tank.
I can't see anything to suggest that Mongoose has suffered the same diminishing returns that the Crusader enchant did in Burning Crusade. This means that +120 agility and weapon speed increase provides as much mitigation and threat as any other alternative currently available in-game.
评论来自
258204
I'm curious as to how this fares in WOTLK in comparison to other weapon enchantments.
评论来自
150817
I had to test it for myself, but the agi and attack bonus does stack if you use 2 different weapons (dual wield obviously), so far none of the new WOTLK enchants beat it.
评论来自
272526
Does anybody have numbers for level80 - Did the proc rate get lower/the proc weaker like it was with crusader or did it stay as it was at level70?
(I'm curious from a tank's POV - I'm not really happy with the new enchants and mongoose seems to be the best enchant around)
评论来自
216064
anybody knows the % to proc mongoose per hit?
评论来自
Lupyn
Mongoose is the best enchant to have as a tanking feral druid. It procs like mad (especially when AoE tanking 2+ mobs). I have the +120 AGI buff up 80% of the time, which is much better than the +35 AGI enchant which is in effect 100% of the time
评论来自
paloka
Please make this trainable allready :S
评论来自
Draenors
I don't think they should make it trainable, but rather that they should come up with new and better tanking enchants. Titanguard was too good? Okay, change it to something else, or come up with enchants for respectively Paladin, Warrior and Druid.
评论来自
294806
Cleared Kara every week for over a year. This , nor sunfire or soulfrost would drop. So thats around 70 Kara clears with 0 Drops, nice blizzard ggggggg.
评论来自
278544
Could an enchanter with under 375 enchanting be able to pick this up if it dropped? Or it's probably just safer to get to 375 first.
评论来自
127401
should mongoose work on a druid's staff when he's in shapeshift?
(sorry if i made any gramar mistakes)
评论来自
326247
Ah yes, Good Old Mongoose. This enchant is still the best agility to weapon even with the expansion WOTLK. This enchant is perfect for a rogue that duels maces. Also nice for tanks or anyone that uses melee weapons. When it procs, you know it. Took my chanter approx 2 years for this formula to drop (and win the roll) in Kara from a trash mob. If you are an enchanter, this is a must have item, nuff said.
评论来自
patabe
As an enhancement shaman I find it very comfortable to have
Berserking
on my slow Main hand and
Mongoose
on my fast offhand. MH with WF OH with FT guarantees top DPS.
评论来自
334904
If you're a level 80 Rogue fighting more than 1 enemy, and you have Mongoose on both weapons, Fan of Knives is a great way to proc this, because it throws BOTH weapons at every enemy in range.
If you have 2 enemies attacking you for instance, that's 4 attacks and 4 chances to proc, and if you're fighting 3, it's 6 attacks/chances to proc, and so forth. It's when I use Fan of Knives on groups of enemies that I get the most frequent Double-procs of Mongoose.
It makes Fan of Knives even more deadly for those 15 seconds, or it lets you wear down 1 important enemy really quick. 2 if you have Blade Flurry.
评论来自
348402
I enchanted my
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=41257#comments
with Mongoose enchant. But I cant see the 120+ agility benefit on my stats, and neither the awesome mongoose glow. Anyone?
评论来自
Rhod
With 3.1, what is the 'character' level requirement for mongoose? Is it 35/60/70?
Thanks
评论来自
256135
Good news to everyone still wanting this recipe. the drop rate for enchanting recipes in pre-wotlk instances/raids has been greatly increased.. did a run tonight and got Mongoose, Sunfire, Soulfrost and surefooted. That's all of them in one run. madness
评论来自
Entint
As of patch 3.1.0, the drop rate on all of the below enchanting formulas has been increased to
Guaranteed (100%)
. This data was taken from the WoW Armory.
Formula: Enchant Boots - Surefooted
Formula: Enchant Weapon - Mongoose
Formula: Enchant Weapon - Sunfire
Formula: Enchant Weapon - Soulfrost
评论来自
88937
Drop 100% confirmed.
评论来自
killerch0
It is now a %100 drop. Finaly I have mine
评论来自
330765
lawl 100% drop rate
got this along with sunfire and soulfrost in 1 run
评论来自
Ramona
100% drop rate now, just like on the other recipes in kara. And increased drop rate on BC recipes which drop off dungeons.
评论来自
149581
Sometimes is 50% chance
Wich % is occasionally?
ty
评论来自
246914
Being a level 70 raid encounter, what class and gear would one need to solo Kara, if that's possible. If not, what kind of skeleton crew could run it most efficiently? I'd really like to get some of these enchants for my book!
评论来自
avdeev
I think, this enchant now is the best for warrior tank, I am warrior, and I test and Mongoose and
Blade Ward
- proc is highest.
I tested it in Ulduar on the boss (from Xt to Mimiron) - use 2 enchant - proc in the Mongoose is highest , I think, if you are warrior - to take Mongoose!
TEst was on the sword
Titanguard
and Mace
Shiver
.
Imho - Mongoose!
评论来自
426717
What's best enchant to put on the Daggers of a Mutilate PvP rogue, using 1.80-1.60 speed Dagggers at both MH and OH?
This Mongoose enchant, or
this?
1 of each? I dunno <.<
评论来自
427607
Will it work on
http://ptr.cuckhead.com/?item=39291
? i cant runeforge this sword, so i want to enchant it, i mean that glows.
评论来自
Tontel
first hand
I see what you did, there.
评论来自
Healingproof
All TBC Enchants now have 100% drop chance just like pre TBC enchants had 100% dropchance when TBC arrived.
评论来自
453856
Does it work on heirlooms?
评论来自
Anarchy
120 agility is 1.8% dodge at level 80, for paladins, I assume it's pretty similar or the same for other classes too.
评论来自
mercutiouk
For rogues on a budget Mongoose is only around 5 DPS behind Beserking once you reach tier 9 gear levels. The only problem is crit-capping. If you have a trinket or 2 equiped that gives a decent amount of crit (Darkmoon Card: Greatness, Death's Verdict or Dark Matter) Berserking may be better as a straight AP buff.
评论来自
179771
Does this enchant work on a
Weapon Vellum II
?
评论来自
Cybazaar
Whats is the proc chance of mongoose in WOTLK?
评论来自
497642
Does this still proc for Druids in Feral Forms? I know it used to and I had this on my staff but then I took some time off from WoW and came back and it doesnt proc anymore. Did they change it or am I bugged?
评论来自
502614
I went into Kara today. Got all 4 enchanting recipes in 1 run. so maybe they are 100% now
评论来自
chop360
For level 80 Protection warrior:
~1 proc per minute for 15 secs
Armor
= +240
Dodge chance
= +1.40% (before diminishing returns)
Melee critical strike chance
= +1.92%
Melee attack speed
= +2% (65.58 haste rating)
评论来自
82971
Buff what you gain is
Lightning Speed
评论来自
137481
Just so everyone knows who may wind up going back to get this enchant, as I plan on doing, it is confirmed to be a 100% drop according to the WoW armory:
http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=22559
评论来自
25678
Did some proc testing on this and on a paladin it had around 25% uptime (tested in instances and on dummy). With that kind of uptime it would give (at level 80);
0,6% dodge to a druid.
0,5% dodge to a paladin.
0,35% dodge to a warrior/dk
assuming wowwiki numbers are correct about agi to dodge.
Add to this a small amount of haste and crit (approx 0.5% for both) and an even smaller amount of armor (about 60 overall).
More detail about my testing can be found at
http://jinxedthought.blogspot.com/2010/05/number-crunching-mongoose.html
评论来自
470074
I saw 3 lvl 80 hunters with this today...no joke...=/.
评论来自
526684
As of June 16, 2010, the effects of mongoose now give 120 Agility and 30 raw haste rating, instead of 2% haste. Because of this, it is not the best enchant for feral dps anymore. Berserking is now the best, until you get crit capped with white swings, then from what I have heard Black Magic becomes superior, not 100% sure though.
评论来自
263349
Mongoose has been stealth nerfed. Originally it was 120 Agility and 2% haste, now it's 120 agility and 30 haste rating. At certain gear levels mongoose was actually better than berserking for fury warriors, but now because of the stealth nerf this seems no longer so.
评论来自
482442
I just want to make sure, can this proc from ranged attacks?
评论来自
KHAxel
What's the drop rate? AtlasLoot says it's 1%, WoWHead says it's 10%, and I got it on the first try with my friend. Barely 2-manned Moroes.
评论来自
trielementalist
Is Mongoose still viable as an enchant for Cata Content? 120 Agility isn't chump change as it enhances all sorts of stats. Crit, atk pwr, etc. And of course the 2% increase in attack speed. Agility would also increase spell pwr for enhancement shamans also.
评论来自
WorgN6
I could solo most of Kara as an 80 ret in cat a dungeon blues, some mobs required thought and effort though, but not really the bosses.
Should be reasonable to farm this on any 80 plate or say, warlock.
评论来自
mummer
Does anyone know if they changed the animation on it?
评论来自
860594
I proc'd mongoose!
评论来自
984350
Dkgnomy 5 days ago (Patch 4.3.3)
as in patch 4.3 it doesnt drop if u dont have 375 enchanting, went there with my warrior wich has 340 enchanting, and didnt drop any of these
Incorrect, as of 4.3.4 it does drop if you don't have 375 enchanting. It dropped on my DK with 310 enchanting: i.imgur.com/Se9o1.jpg
Whether this means it isn't a 100% drop or it was stealth changed is unknown.
评论来自
989308
mongoose on my heavy copper longswords back sheathed
评论来自
247797
can druids make use of this in MoP?
评论来自
Realiti
As of the recent patch, Mongoose can now be applied to heirloom weapons! :D
评论来自
gbalkam
Update: Mongoose now seems to be the best enchant for a boa. Especially for rogues, with 2 fast weapons. I have actually seen both weapon enchants proc at the same time, that is 180 extra agility plus a bit of haste, which at low levels is deadly.
Since the enchant scales, you can use this all the way to level 77/78 when you will want to replace it with a cata green dagger (77-if you can find one) or toxidunk dagger (for example) a 308 cata blue!
There is a web site with a chart of enchant scaling, so you can use this to compare, OR you can open your guilds profession panel, and compare the enchants there, as it will show you the scaled values for the enchant. Since all enchants can now be applied to any item level weapon, you have a bit more freedom of what to choose, but also you have to think more about your play style and what you want your enchants to do. (ie more dps or more survivability)
**edit... apparently, now with the real procs per minute, elemental force may even be better than mongoose. A level 1 rogue, with 2 elemental force (from experience on my lv1 twink, stacking hit and haste) hits for over 200 dmg. **
评论来自
0xDUAL
I wrote this on
猫鼬
just thought I'd add it here too:
Only it applies to those who are looking to get this in 6.0.2 because they think it may be better than
舞钢
.
"For anybody playing 6.0.2 that might now think that this has become a viable enchant once again, it isn't. You will only get 60 of the 120 agility it says you'll get at level 90.
I thought I'd mention this only because on my realm Mongoose now costs more than Dancing Steel on the AH, I can only assume because the stats are higher, other people might make the same mistake in thinking this."
评论来自
Zeroheals
Shadowlands Test
Grants 21 Agility and 5 haste
Tested on Warglaives from BT
lasts 14 seconds
Has a slightly shorter ICD by 1-2 sec vs that of Dancing Steel (That grants 31 agility) but lasts 5 seconds longer than Dancing steel.
评论来自
Aurlemz
As of 4/14/2023 WoW Dragonflight Expansion, this pattern dropped for my first kill my enchanting was 75/75 enchanting. Do not know if it is 100 percent or not since this was my first day trying to farm for it and I got it on the first try. Best of luck.
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