评论来自 Lanceler

Might be useless information, but here goes:

Easily soloable by a t6 prot warrior, the only thing that can actually hurt you is their blast wave that hits for 490ish, you resist about 50% of those however.
Also, wowhead is wrong, the health on these mobs are 56242.

I personally spent 2 hours or so grinding them, in my prot gear that is.
After a while i FORCED a guildie to heal my bum down there while i went in my 'fury' gear, took 20 minutes which constant pulling and pewpew'ing.

评论来自 43040

Non T6 Melee.

If questing for the Draconic for Dummies item. I found -as melee- the Doomguard Commander to be the best bet if questing solo.

May help others, but not sure. They can be stunned. Cheap Shot, Kidney Shot, Mace Effect, etc. So my routine was stack combo points till 5 and KS him. An obvious method for a rogue... But also in my routine -which may help others- the mobs cast Rain of Fire for 9 seconds. This is the time you run out and hammer them from far with range weapons, bandage, heal, or regain mana/energy. Do not interrupt the cast unless you absolutely have to.

Rogues can Cloak of Shadows the Cripple debuff. Other classes need to de-spell it.

By far the easier of the guys that drop the quest item.

评论来自 parl2001

Atrocious drop rate.

Took about 30-40 kills, there's one Doomguard Commander that's easy to solo for melee.

Tons of adds.

Finally got a guildie hunter to come and help. He was good. Done.

评论来自 2915

Easily soloable as a ~T5 Feral Druid post-3.0

Took nearly 30-40 kills. Highly recommend sticking to Dreadlords and Doomguard Commanders (more spawns tucked in the back, further Southwest).

评论来自 4466

Both Commanders and Elites are immune to poisons, which makes soloing these as a Mutilate rogue tedious to say the least. Also worth noting that both mobs will happily call for help (without chat notification) from nearby Elites or Manahounds.

评论来自 Gunslinger

Confirmed that this still drops as of 3.0.3; drop rate still terrible -- had to kill about 100 mobs for it.

评论来自 292289

It took me 1h45m, as a Holy Priest 80lvl, and after 45 Felguard Elites, 2 Dreadlords and 5 Doomguard Commanders it dropped from an Elite.

The drop rate is still sucky...

As a side note I killed the first 40 Elites alone, out of a party or raiding group. After that I formed a Raid and I continued soloing. Dunno if the drop meant to drop only for Raiding groups but I have to add it.

Good luck.

评论来自 63753

hmm, i came here to psot thinking they'd changed the drop rates, but i guess i was lucky

i got this one and the winterspring elite demons one both times off the first kills, as well as the narian goggles from the molten core trash off the first mob, i though myabe they'd easy moded the quest

评论来自 Faradize

as a warlock i found the easiest way to farm is to go to south, and kill the doomguard commanders and dreadlords. since theyre casters, at lvl 80 my resist was about 99%.

even the 3 doomguard+1 dreadlord pack is easier than 2 felguard.

just avoid the 2 manahound+felguard patrol, manahound is a pain

评论来自 175017

Farming them for 4 hours so far, got 3 world epics, 2 eye of shadow, and 0 quest items.
215 doomguards, and a bit more felguards and dreadlors so far. So the droprate for me is not even a 1%...

Good job, Blizz.

评论来自 265330

Took me about 1 hour, dropped off a Commander.

评论来自 157908

INSANELY easy for an 80 prot paladin. Put on full block gear (bout 2014 BV for me) for DPS. Run around and grab all of the felguards you can and simply AoE them down. Consecrate, Holy Wrath, Holy Shield, HotR... The only adds you really need be careful of are the dreadlords... if you get feared with 20 mobs beating on you, you're in for a rough time, hehe.

Pulled 3 big groups in all... maybe 40-50 mobs total. Had my chapter in under 15 minutes :)

评论来自 Tooter

I don't know if this was just pure, dumb luck, or if something changed with 3.1... But I stepped into the Tainted Scar, saw a dozen Felguard Elites and their HP... Being a mage, I was kinda spooked at the idea of dozens upon dozens of kills for this thing, but went ahead and pulled anyway. Dropped from my very first kill.

Drop rate up for this, among other things, perhaps?

评论来自 08Jacob

After one and a half hour i started to think: " Do i really have the quest"

评论来自 08Jacob

Confirmed.. I got the quest..

评论来自 281363

Still drops as of patch 3.2.0 (Sept 2009).

The drop rate is very low, about 4%. I got a few fel cloths, Eye of shadow (benediction quest item) and random loot before getting it so don't lose heart!

Soloable without a problem as an 80 tank druid.

评论来自 Hinalover

Dropped after about an hour farming from a commander. As a lvl 80 Arcane Mage in 245 gear, the mobs were not too bad, just had to take my time between pulls.

评论来自 366960

dropped from sixth mob^^
patch 3.2.2

评论来自 357072

Chapter 1 - Doctor Weavil
Chapter 2 - Blasted Lands Demons
Chapter 3 - Winterspring Demons (+Rare Spawn )
Chapter 4 - Undercity (In front of Salazar Bloch)
Chapter 5 - Stormwind Keep (Library)
Chapter 6 - Onyxia THIS DROPS IN 10/25 MAN! Just loot after the loot has been passed out.
Chapter 7 - Blackwing Lair (Located after Lashlayer)
Chapter 8 - Ragnaros

Hope this helps a few of you :)

评论来自 520747

3.3 update

As an 80, T9/10 destruction warlock I thought this would be a piece of cake...wrong

Soloing the elite felguards is easy, two is not so bad, but pull three or four as cloth and you will find yourself popping healthstones and pots.

I noted a few times when I had pulled multiples that my damage was dramatically reduced including quite a few "immunes"

I tried affliction aswell, same deal.

After grinding 33 of them chapter 2 dropped. Lots of felcloth, demonic runes and runecloth.

评论来自 error10

Got Draconic for Dummies on my first kill. This apparently isn't universal judging by the comments above.

If you're looking for Pristine Black Diamonds, look to some other mobs with maybe a lower drop rate, but with much lower health pools. These guys are rather annoying, especially if you get a couple of them and a Manahound on you. In the time it takes to take down 50 of these you could have cleared Stratholme and had a much better overall chance of getting a drop.

评论来自 asvo007

The mobs are very easy to kill as a 6,1k gs combat rogue.

Took some kills before the Dragonic for Dummies dropped tho, probably 60-70 kills.

评论来自 Kaemalux

I was lucky.

Got it on about 20th mob, and in the same group i killed i found a Pristine Black diamond.

80 Prot paladin, really easy, u can pick up 5-6 at time.

评论来自 Maritas

They might have changed the drop rate as I got it on my 4th kill of a felguard ...after I was distracted by a flagged Alliance.

评论来自 251701

I went there specced sub thinking "will get it between a bg and another".
After a couple of kills, I changed to combat for quicker draw.

No words to say how much horrible was the farming of this piece.

I spent more than 2 hours nuking demons of any sort. Being combat 100% arp I must have trashed out like 250-300 mobs in 2 hours, until a f*cking felguard elite dropped it.

评论来自 250447

I killed dreadlord -_- he dropped it second time i killed him. Apparently he has highest chances and is just killed less times for the data to be loaded here! xD

评论来自 CrazyTurk

Spend exactly 30 seconds here, 3rd or 4th elite I killed dropped it...
after farming for freaking chimarok meat for 3hours, I think it's justified
:) good luck

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