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评论来自
Felweed
Just a heads up, because it's not entirely obvious, Ancient potions scale with your level, in how much HP/Mana they restore! If you craft them on a level 100, don't fret that they only restore the same amount of HP/Mana as the Warlords potions!
评论来自
Clexarews
It seems you can obliterate these for 1-2 dust per! And here I thought Alchemists were screwed out of obliterum!
评论来自
Aaahead
Recipe Ranks:
Rank 1
recipe lets you make potions with
4
伊瑟拉莱之种
and a
水晶瓶
each at the Dalaran Alchemy Station.
Rank 2
recipe lets you make them with the same mats, but without being at the Dalaran Alchemy Station. The recipe is given to you by chance while crafting rank 1 potions.
Rank 3
recipe lets you make them with the same mats, but gives a chance to create
1 to 19
extra
potions
per crafting (usually you get no extras, or one extra; 19 is the most reported in this thread so far). I've crafted a couple hundred potions with rank 3, and
average 1.5 potions per crafting
. In other words, if you have mats for 100, you should get about 150 pots. The recipe is given to you by chance while crafting rank 2 potions.
Obliterating Potions:
古代治疗药水
s can be obliterated if you have an Obliterum Forge. You obtain an average of
1.5
抑魔金灰烬
es per potion
, and need
100 ashes per obliterum
. It's rather tedious to obliterate hundreds of potions, but depending on the cost of materials for other obliterum sources on your realm, this may be among the cheapest options.
Sample
抑魔金
cost analysis using
古代治疗药水
s:
As of September 10, 2016,
伊瑟拉莱之种
cost around 20 gold each across realms, making the cost of a rank 2 pot 80g (4x20g), and the cost of a rank 3 pot 53.3g (4x20g/1.5). You'll need to obliterate on average 66.6 pots to get 100
抑魔金灰烬
es, so one
抑魔金
from rank 2 pots would cost 5328 gold (66.6x80g), and one
抑魔金
from rank 3 pots would cost 3549 gold (66.6x53.3g). With
抑魔金
s costing nearly 5000-6000 gold on many realms right now, that could be a decent savings/profit margin. Remember though, obliterating is time consuming. It takes 2-3 clicks per obliteration depending on how you do it, with slight delays for the game to process the actions, so making several obliterums might drive you nuts.
Healing Performance and Tips:
Both healing potions and
治疗石
s
now scale how much they heal based on your normal health level, but healing potions heal more than healthstones at a given level. At level 110 and around 850 item level, a player might find a
古代治疗药水
heals for
550,000 health
, while
healthstones
heal for around
400,000
, meaning the potions heal for around one third more than healthstones. They share the same
healing consumable cooldown
during a fight (also shared with shield consumables like
粒子护盾
), so you can only take one healing potion
or
one healthstone while in combat, then when you're out of combat (even if you die and are battle-rezzed), a 60 second timer begins on when you can use another. The healing consumable cooldown is
completely separate
from the
performance consumable cooldown
on items like intellect, agility, or strength potions; you can drink an agility pot before combat, drink another after the 60 second cooldown is up during combat, and still use a healing pot or healthstone at any time during combat.
Serious players should never use healthstones unless healing pots cost more than their time is worth if they die, or they ran out - if someone is close enough to dying that a healthstone makes a difference, then the difference between that and a healing potion (which heal for a third more) can also make a difference. Some players who use healthstones do so because they think they heal for the same amount, or don't realize that healing potions use the same cooldown, separate from their performance consumable cooldown.
Alchemists wearing an
地狱火炼金石
(or even older alchemy trinkets like
德拉诺点金石
) get an
additional 40% healing
from healing potions (totaling
761,763 health
at level 110), which they do not get from healthstones.
评论来自
Vrogue
I managed to get rank 3 on my Alchemist after about
400
odd potions brewed. I often received
2x
, sometimes
3x
but just one time did I manage to proc
19x potions in one go
! Proof:
http://imgur.com/a/GT0dq
评论来自
jakearmitage
For me it took a bit longer to get level 3 than it seemed to do for others - it took me a bit over
800
potions to get level 3. You just have to keep going. Believe in me, who believes in you!
Also, i have done tests with how many potions you get from crafting with level 3 and this is the numbers i've gotten:
193 crafts, 261 potions (
1.35 potions per craft
)
135 crafts, 185 potions (
1.37 potions per craft
)
152 crafts, 238 potions (
1.57 potions per craft
)
75 crafts, 120 potions (
1.6 potions per craft
)
113 crafts, 183 potions (
1.62 potions per craft
)
159 crafts, 226 potions (
1.42 potions per craft
)
I'll add more numbers when i craft large batches,
but you seem to get closer to ~1.35 potions per craft rather than 1.5.
EDIT: As i have crafted more pots now the average pots per craft is now approx.
1.47 pots/craft
for me.
评论来自
rfuilrez
After a large number of crafted potions at Rank 3, here is my current data for turning
伊瑟拉莱之种
to
抑魔金
.
2217
古代治疗药水
Combines
3318
古代治疗药水
Received
1.496
Proc Rate
3318
古代治疗药水
Obliterated
4915
抑魔金灰烬
Received
1.481
Proc Rate
2.67
伊瑟拉莱之种
Per Pot (avg)
1.481
抑魔金灰烬
Per Pot (avg)
67.51
古代治疗药水
per 100
抑魔金灰烬
(1
抑魔金
)
180.43
伊瑟拉莱之种
per 100
抑魔金灰烬
(1
抑魔金
)
At
12g
per seed, it costs
2,165.13
to craft 1
抑魔金
评论来自
tom549
got a x15 proc.. nothing higher as yet
http://pasteboard.co/aXyTjc0hO.png
评论来自
phantom325
Got a X20 proc today, literally my first craft after I bought ~20K Seeds.
https://gyazo.com/03afa302fe679699cb26fd1a927b4579
评论来自
Yotingo
Cost analysis for Obliterating:
Obliterating
古代治疗药水
Ingredients:
4x
伊瑟拉莱之种
= 40 gold
1x
水晶瓶
= negligible
Makes about 1.5x
抑魔金灰烬
each.
Est. Gold Value per
抑魔金
= 3,000 gold
Advantages:
Yseralline Seeds are cheap as well as easy to harvest. You get them on most Broken Isles herb nodes. This recipe at Rank 3 also has a chance to proc and create more potions, potentially lessening your total cost. Cheapest method without relying on gathering your own resources.
Disadvantages
: clicking muscles will cry
As compared to...
Obliterating
地狱火炼金石
Ingredients:
1x
地狱硫磺
= 200 gold
5x
邪能球茎
= 1,500 gold
3x
萨格拉斯之血
= Unbuyable, est. 450 gold in value
Makes about 140x
抑魔金灰烬
each.
Est. Gold Value per
抑魔金
: 1,536 gold
Advantages:
Clicking muscles will be happy! Relatively cheap if you have the Bloods.
Disadvantages:
Must gather
萨格拉斯之血
on your own, must rely on other player (or sufficiently leveled miner of your own) to obtain
地狱硫磺
.
Obliterating
延时之力药水
Ingredients:
1x
萨格拉斯之血
= Unbuyable, est. cost 150 gold
10x
水晶瓶
= negligible
(This produces 10 potions each.)
Makes about 1.5x
抑魔金灰烬
each.
Estimated Gold Value per
抑魔金
= 1,125 gold
Advantages:
You probably have a ton of Bloods lying around, making this cost less than 2 gold (the cost of the vials) for each Obliterum!
Disadvantages:
clicking muscles will cry, lots of time invested into gathering if you don't have the Bloods already
Oblierating
古代法力药水
Ingredients:
5x
伊瑟拉莱之种
= 50 gold
1x
水晶瓶
= negligible
Makes about 1.5x
抑魔金灰烬
each.
Est. Gold Value per
抑魔金
= 3,750 gold
Advantages:
Yseralline Seeds are cheap as well as easy to harvest. You get them on most Broken Isles herb nodes. This recipe at Rank 3 also has a chance to proc and create more potions, potentially lessening your total cost.
Disadvantages:
clicking muscles will cry, costs more seeds than
古代治疗药水
Obliterating
耳语契约合剂
or
第七恶魔合剂
Ingredients:
7x
星光玫瑰
= 280 gold
10x first herb (see individual recipes) = 200 gold
10x second herb = 200 gold
1x
水晶瓶
= negligible
Makes about 4x
抑魔金灰烬
each.
Est. Gold Value per
抑魔金
: 17,000 gold
Disadvantages:
Simply not cost effective! Clicking muscles crying only slightly less than with the potions.
Obliterating
无尽大军合剂
or
千万战痕合剂
Ingredients:
7x
星光玫瑰
= 280 gold
10x
安瑟瑞尔花
= 150 gold
10x other herb = 200 gold
1x
水晶瓶
= negligible
Makes about 4x
抑魔金灰烬
each.
Est. Gold Value per
抑魔金
: 15,750 gold
Advantages:
Aethril is slightly cheaper currently than other herbs, so these flasks cost less to make than the other kinds.
Disadvantages:
Simply not cost effective! Clicking muscles crying only slightly less than with the potions.
Obliterating
灵魂药锅
Don't do it. Just don't. You only get 4-9
抑魔金灰烬
each. Even your clicking muscles won't be happy with you.
评论来自
Bufe
For some weird reason, it says it requires PREVIOUS RANK on the RANK 2 recipee, and is RED with Patricia Egan, even if the recipee says "already known" on Rank 2
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古代治疗药水
物品等级:45
使用:
恢复6000点生命值。
(5分钟 冷却)
需要等级 40
最大叠加: 200
售价:
12
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