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评论来自
jjanchan
There are 15 Master Tamers on the Broken Isles. There are achievements associated with beating any 12 of them with a team of three pets from the same family; completing all of these achievements grants the meta
全谱系制霸
, which awards the
梦魇树人
pet.
Below is a list of all such achievements.
Achievement
Pet Family
水性亲和
Aquatic
鼠患成灾
Critter
学着点,拉格纳罗斯
Elemental
鱼人、鹰身人和狼獾人!
Humanoid
机甲大师
Mechanical
万兽之王
Beast
有龙!
Dragon
百鸟来朝
Flying
魔法大师
Magic
小小通灵师
Undead
评论来自
poarro
This is the kind of achievement that is so pleasant to achieve!
It's fun, challenging, long, people must be smart, know the game and because of all that have a good reward at the end!
Very nice! =:-)
评论来自
Aranesh
This achievement is one of the largest and toughest additions to the pet battling world. It might even beat the Celestial Tournament in required effort. In total you need to do
120 individual fights
, with different setups for every single one of them.
I'm still in the process of creating strategies, but about 80% is done. Due to the immense amount of data, putting everything here is quite impossible.
On Xu-Fus page however you will have access to all of them:
http://www.wow-petguide.com/index.php?m=FamilyFamiliar
It will also show you a list of pets you'd need to follow my guide. All of those are available pre-Legion, so you can go in well prepared once it launches :-)
评论来自
Cymre
I'm really loving the variety of pets I've been able to use in all these challenges and am currently in the process of working through all 120 combos. Feel free to follow my progress on the
blog
and on
youtube
.
The full list of pets will be added once I've completed the challenge.
评论来自
Xhanon
Hello everyone!
I am just here to inform you, if you unfortunately defeat any pet battle tamer with 2 pets only, where the 3rd pet is not alive before engaging the fight, and still manage to defeat the trainer, with all beast pets for example, it does NOT count for any of the achievements unfortunately.
It happened to me when i was using Mr grubbs, and Zao against ''Robert Craig'' for the Best of the Beasts Achievement.
managed to kill him with only 2 pets but my last pet was not alive during the engage of the battle, so it didnt count.
Also, having multiple characters makes you able to do more steps of the achievement each day. (tested and works)
Happy Hunting!
评论来自
Whiterock
Here is the information on location and pet teams of all the trainers needed:
Pet Master
Location
Pets
Associated World Quest
阿玛利亚
达拉然
滚滚
笨笨
嗞嗞
决斗之夜:阿玛利亚
博迪·日轨
达拉然
伊奇
咸鸡
格罗米特
决斗之夜:博迪·日轨
加尔维斯顿先生
达拉然
奔波尔斯顿爵士
教练
致命宿敌
决斗之夜:加尔维斯顿先生
蒂梵妮·尼尔森
达拉然
倒霉蛋
火箭
棉花糖
决斗之夜:蒂梵妮·尼尔森
守夜人梅瑞尔
阿苏纳
活泼的书
热心的幽灵
优美的飞蛾
守夜人训练
杜里安·强果
瓦尔莎拉
苏尼
根须
贝琪
杜里安的训练
索瓦斯克
瓦尔莎拉
崔克斯
格鲁布斯
梦魇幼苗
解决萨特
布蕾达·柔鬃
至高岭
灵魂小医者
奎里诺
菲瑟尔
布蕾达的训练
格里克斯·微泡
至高岭
巨口蛙
超级蛋蛋
红线
小动物偷猎者
奥多格
至高岭
舔岩
慢吞吞的莫伊
鼻涕
蜗牛大战!
罗伯特·克雷格
风暴峡湾
暴牙
乌帕斯
贝罗斯
为了我的宠物
诱捕者贾伦
风暴峡湾
迷雾幽灵
死胃
啃啃
贾伦之梯
奥利尔
苏拉玛
美美
定罪之眼
迪格尼特
宠物大师
维雷尼
苏拉玛
古斯特
雷米
迪娜
斩获
驯宠大师弗鲁莫斯
苏拉玛
驯宠大师弗鲁莫斯
弗鲁莫斯
评论来自
gmack28
Credit/Completed with 2 Dragons in action and 1 Dragon not used. First action Dragon died.
评论来自
Suggestions
This addon:
World Quest Tips & Timers
helps track your progress on this achievement (amongst other things)
So you can see if you need the current pet battle world quests right from the world map - It adds to the
tooltip of a pet battle World Quest
(and the
NPC
) the following:
If you have never done the quest it adds name of the achievement plus progress eg:
激战破碎群岛
(14/30)
Then it adds each meta not met from
全谱系制霸
, with progress. For example:
小小通灵师
(5/12)
鼠患成灾
(3/12)
万兽之王
(8/12)
水性亲和
(0/12)
机甲大师
(1/12)
You can ignore up to 3 tamers per achievement (as you only need 12/15)
You can also Alt-Click on the world quest to add you own note to the tooltip and get links back to Wowhead and
Aranesh's
awesome
wow-petguide.com
Let me know what you think, and/or if you have any suggestions for me to add/change.
Edit:
World Quest Tips & Timers
will now function for any localization.
评论来自
1170496
Not sure about this. Actually, not liking at all;
Celestial pets achievement; 12 weeks max, login once a week. Reward; achi and 4 unique pets.
This? Around a year of log in daily, hoping for best and effort of completing. Reward; reskin pet of questionable value.
Why a year? Well, 30 WQ pet battles, 3 spawn daily, of which 15 are trainers. None are quaranteed to be up daily(WQ don't rotate, they just RNG).
Even if looking at 1 trainer, 10% chance to spawn, need 10 times. I'd say 3 months on average to get one trainer complete.
Now apply that for 15 trainers :p
So yeah, great achievement, as in you actually need time and effort to do, but that you might not even be ABLE to complete during Legion, for a reskin pet...kind of needs tuning.
Advice i'm getting at here? Don't try to achieve this by any effort, just keep it in the back of mind when playing. Chances are, most of us can't complete it.
评论来自
AveryZan
This feels like a huge oversight to me. Why have it in a way that you need to wait for a day by day basis and rng? Let the trainers just be up at all times and you just don't get a world quest reward for them.
评论来自
Ozzayel
Does anyone else feel like they are losing progress on this over time?
As I keep going with it and checking all my achievement progress each time I have a new battle to do I'm sure I had better completion on some and it's disappeared.
It's hard to keep track because there's so many so I am probably mistaken, but has anyone else thought this?
评论来自
alpanhell
No one gives any information on how this is done?
If I have 3 pets do they all have to be active at least once? Get a hit in or take damage? Do they all 3 have to live at the end?
评论来自
LSavage
This is quite a long achievement but not as tough as some people are predicting. Longer than the Celestial Tournament certainly, but the fights themselves are pretty simple.
Firstly, none of the teams you fight against are particularly demanding. Secondly it is not a requirement to beat it with every family, so if a team is particularly tough on one family, simply skip it out. The "challenge" really is just perservering with it until it is done.
I was interested in figuring out how long this achievement would take to complete (estimates of "the whole expansion" just seemed a bit extreme to me) so I decided to do a bit of analysis on the problem to figure out statistically what to expect, assuming equal probability of each trainer spawning.
There are 37 possible pet dailies
15 of them are the trainers needed for this achievement
There are 3 pet dailies per day
You need to complete a total of 120 quests
A single trainer can be used for a maximum of 10 of those quests
So you will on average get 3 x 15/37, or 1.2 trainers per day. As you start approaching the end of the achievement, some of the trainers may end up having been used for all 10 pet families, so they will no longer be available.
I put together a spreadsheet** to calculate the statistical likelihood of a pet trainer appearing more than 10 times during the grind. The results are as follows:
The statistical probability of a pet trainer appearing more than 10 times after 120 battles is as follows:
11 times: 8%
12 times: 4.7%
13 times: 2.8%
14 times: 1.5%
14 times: 0.7%
In short, over a period in which you expect 120 relevant trainers to appear, you can expect an average of 5.3 appearances by trainers who have been used for every pet family already. At 127 battles, you will expect to have had 7 appearances by "capped" trainers.
In other words, you need to have, on average, 127 pet trainers appear. At 1.2 trainers per day that is 106 character days (which can be spread across alts to reduce the time needed to finish). Bear in mind that this is an average, and some people will require a few more days, some less. But it is a pretty decent ballpark to go on
The other thing to remember is to make sure that you don't land up with trainers spawning that are only available for pet families you have already done your 12 quests.
To this end I recommend working on keeping parity between the progress of each pet family. When selecting which pet family to fight for you, select the one with the least progress towards its achievement. That way you'll be unlikely to waste a trainer on a pet family that is already done.
Another personal note is that I don't use these battles to boost lower level pets. It's not impossible, but it just doesn't seem very efficient given the various constraints when chasing the achievement. ie it would be quicker to go fight pet trainers from Pandaria or Draenor which I am familiar with than to figure out (largely by trial and error) 120 combinations for the various achievement permutations.
Happy battling!
Edit PS: Having completed this quest some time ago and re-reading this guide, I will add that my assumption that the pet trainers have an equal spawn probability was not accurate. Some are definitely rarer than others. That being said, it didn't have that big an effect on the time needed to complete the achievement.
** The spreadsheet calculates the cumulative probability of a trainer having appeared Y times by battle X. It starts by calculating the probability of having appearing once by battle X. It then calculates, based on the odds of it having appeared once by battle X-1, together with the probability that it may have appeared twice by battle X-1, the cumulative probability of having appeared
twice
by battle X. And so on for each succesive battle and number of appearances.
评论来自
wowZhenek
I have quite bad experience with this achivment. Some trainers literally never spawn. Aulier, Xorvasc, Varenne, Odrogg, Master trapper flummox. I mean, I've got 2 chars lvl 110, yea, and I'm already done with like 50% of trainers on ALL families with just 2 chars and yet I hardly ever got to fight the aforementioned trainers. Basically obligatory "$%^& you blizzard".
评论来自
Starkatt
As of right now:
Flock Together (Amalia, Aulier, Varenne, or Flummox) Anyone of these.
Murlocs Harpies, and Wolvar, Oh My! (Amalia, Aulier, Varenne, Jarrun, or Flummox) Any 2 of these.
Master of Magic (Amalia, Aulier, Varenne, Jarrun, Flummox) Any 2 of these.
The Lil' Necromancer (Amalia, Aulier, Varenne, Xorvasc, Odrogg, Jarrun, Flummox) Any 4 of these.
Like others I haven't seen a single trainer spawn in Suramar in weeks. I have 3 level 110's and almost everyday I log in the world quests are Fight Night but none of the trainers, or no trainer quests spawns, and even worse I'll see the same quest for 3-4 days in a row. This is super frustrating and I really hope blizzard figures this out.
Update: Sent in a ticket to blizz to see if this is bugged or not. Got some stupid copy/paste response saying that they are random spawns and that if I believe it's a bug to report a bug. (So basically they aren't going to do anything or don't know anything.)
Last update: It seems that they may have resolved the issue as a tamer in Suramar spawned... this was of course after I got the achievement done waiting around for other tamers to spawn. GG Blizzard.
评论来自
kendallzemp
This is a question, if anyone who knows the answer could please respond here? Can your team contain two of the SAME pet? For example, for an all-humanoid team, may I use two Anubisath Idols?
评论来自
saillaw
Short but important info that is hidden in some of the longer but useful posts in this thread:
First:
To this end I recommend working on keeping parity between the progress of each pet family. When selecting which pet family to fight for you, select the one with the least progress towards its achievement. That way you'll be unlikely to waste a trainer on a pet family that is already done.
(Credit to
LSavage
's post above.)
Second: Use the
World Quest Tips & Timers
addon... it saves so much time flipping between the achievements.
(Credit to
Suggestions
' post above.)
Third: For strategies use
Xu-Fus' webpage
.
(Credit to
Aranesh
's post above.)
Fourth: Be patient... this is building a mountain a spoonful at a time, but eventually you'll be able to ski and the prize will be that much more valuable as a result.
评论来自
Gearloose
Got tired of having to count up the completed criteria for each family to see how much was left for this one, so the following will provide a quick view of your overall progress:
/run t=0;for i=9686,9695 do c=0;for j=1,15 do _,_,x=GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(i,j);if x then c=c+1;end;end;t=t+c;print(GetAchievementLink(i)..": "..c);end;print("Total for "..GetAchievementLink(9696)..": "..t.." ("..(math.floor(t/1.2)).."%)")
评论来自
hotcore
I just completed this achievement. My advice is to use alts. It makes this achievement much less time consuming. The only issue will be having all the pets needed for the battles. I found the pet battler: Robert Craig to be the hardest. This one took me the longest to beat. Good luck :)
评论来自
ImJustACopy
加尔维斯顿先生
|
学着点,拉格纳罗斯
|
全谱系制霸
|
梦魇树人
FOR ALL ELEMENTAL PETS
加尔维斯顿先生
Team, Stats & Abilities
奔波尔斯顿爵士
final battle:
祝福之锤
,
天降鱼人
,
正义鼓舞
.
教练
first fight:
痛击
,
激素刺激
,
离地升空
.
致命宿敌
second fight:
吐息
,
愈体之焰
,
黑焰
YOUR TEAM & STRAT PRIORITY
*until death do us part*
Pet1)
灰岩之核
(1,2,1)
回馈
= 2nd move > filler/spam *until death
石肤术
= 3rd move only
水晶牢笼
= 1st move > when Murkeston rejoins
Pet2)
活化小沙粒
(H/S) (1,2,2)
重拳
= filler/spam *until death
沙尘暴
= 1st move only
流沙
= 2nd move only
Pet3)
小拉格
(1,2,1)
萨弗拉斯重击
= 3rd move
焚烧
= 2nd move
烈焰喷射
= 1st move
NOTES
*when Coach dies Ashstone’s health should be 500(+).
*Ashstone should face Foe’s first Breath.
cheers,
you win :D
评论来自
BethofHearts
Finally finished this today. The fact you only get one lousy pet after all of this is a joke
评论来自
pat33
After doing half of this achievement all I had in mind is: FU don't debase yourself!
Too F-long, and what about IRL? If you want to punish players next xpac it's exacly the kind of achievement to copy and paste!
No ty Blizzard.
评论来自
ImJustACopy
有龙!
|
守夜人梅瑞尔
|
全谱系制霸
|
梦魇树人
FULL
节点雏龙
TEAM (2, 2, 2)
冰霜吐息
= filler / spam
法力澎湃
= 2nd move > on cd OR pet swap to use again
奥术风暴
= 1st move > on cd OR pet swap to use again
NOTES
*I used (P/S) > (P/P) > (P/B); though any breed should work.
*I pet swapped to use high dmg abilities again vs using pets until death.
*Alternative dragons with
奥术风暴
&
法力澎湃
should work. Choose the higher dmg option for filler/spam.
~cheers~
评论来自
Rifkin11
FYI - Since Legion Assaults began, I had always just assumed if a Tamer was supposed to be up in that area, then they wouldn't be accessible until the assault was over (mainly because only the assault quests show on the map). I actually went and checked today..... Although the Tamer has no quest to offer, you can talk to them and challenge them to fight. No quest reward (because no quest was offered) but it ticks off the portion the achievement :)
评论来自
kaijester
For tomtom users:
Macro #1
/way Azsuna 46.4 40.4 Nightwatcher Merayl
/way Dalaran:Broken Isles 28.3 23.4 Bodhi Amalia Tiffany Galveston
/way Highmountain 47.6 69 Bredda Tenderhide
/way Highmountain 44.6 22.6 Odrogg
/way Highmountain 41. 35.8 Grixis Tinypop
Macro #2
/way Stormheim 78.4 57.2 Robert Craig
/way Stormheim 56.8 46.2 Trapper Jarrun
/way Suramar 52 54.8 Aulier
/way Suramar 63 60.6 Varenne
/way Suramar 25.2 62.6 Master Tamer Flummox
/way Val'sharah 63.6 60.6 Xorvasc
/way Val'Sharah 47 39.6 Durian Strongfruit
评论来自
Johnsphil
The best way to expedite getting this achievement is to do the battles multiple times while a single battle is up. For example I start at the top of my character list and pet family list and work my way down, omitting the families I may already have completion for!
评论来自
Hellstryke
I am seriously getting to the point where I'm going to cancel my subscription. This frickin' achievement is insane. For starters, once in a blue moon do the pet battle masters that are listed actually show up on my map. Half the time, the pet quests that DO pop up on my map are guys who aren't even part of the achievement such as Chromadon or Sissix to name two. Next, Nightwatcher Marayl ALWAYS seems to up. I have that one NPC done on all of my various "Family Familiar" progressions, yet a few like Bodhi, Odrogg, Master Tamer Flummox, Aulier and Varenne almost NEVER show up which makes it IMPOSSIBLE to finish this damned achievement. I'm all for achieves that take some time and effort, but I've been pursuing this for MONTHS and those 5 NPC's I listed almost NEVER show up which makes it pretty damned impossible to finish the quest. Sort it the **** out because this is pushing me to the point of quitting this game. I don't appreciate my time being wasted. Oh, and I log in and out many, many times throughout the day checking. I'm NOT going to set my alarm clock to wake me up in the middle of the damned night to check for pet NPC spawns. People have lives and need to work. Achieves SHOULD be attainable for all of us, not just kids or welfare losers who have nothing better to do with their lives and don't have to follow a working mans clock. Sort it out!
评论来自
Hellstryke
Lets go Blizz! I've been down to the final fight for this stupid achieve for a week and you keep spawning pet battles that I've either already done, or don't qualify for the achieve like the stupid Chromadon or Splints Jr fight etc. I need Grixis, Xorvasc, Robert Craig or Amalia to finish this hellish grind for good. Frickin' RNG bull&*!@.....
评论来自
Perothvius
Worst archivement i ever seen....
评论来自
BigRed
For a while now, one can battle the tamers
after
the world quest has been finished. I've just worked through all families against
奥多格
on a single character. This should speed up things tremendously.
评论来自
geoffreytchew
Like the previous comment said, I was able to battle a trainer multiple times if their associated world quest was up. This enabled me to do all 10 teams for that one trainer in a single session. But, it appears that you still must wait for the trainer's world quest to be up in order to battle them. I was curious if things had been updated in patch 8.1 and I went looking for the other trainers when their world quests were not up but could not find any of them.
Update: I was not able to battle Durian Strongfruit more than once on a single character. Not sure if this was a dev oversight, but so far I've been able to battle all of the other trainers multiple times with a single character when the world quest is up.
评论来自
geoffreytchew
I just completed this achievement, and I think they should rename it to "Pet Battle Burnout". I'm going to boycott the other family related achievements, because I think that they're not very creative and the reward doesn't justify the effort. I'd like to challenge the development team to come up with some more interesting and creative alternatives to these repetitive grinds.
评论来自
ChefCraizeeMayze
As of today (8.1.5) you can do all of the different types of battles needed for one enemy all at once. I did Bhodi, Amelia and Bredda so far. Just stood there on my shaman (who I am currently leveling through pet battles) started with Aquatics and went down through to Undead. Took a while (2 hours about) because I wanted to figure as much as I could out myself. But this achievement should on.y take as long as it takes for them all to spawn. Except for one guy who only seems to let you fight him once. So keep checking the WoWHead front page for who is up. There seems to be at least one up every day now.
This works the same for the BfA achievement. Just stand there and do all the fights at once. They don’t even have to be a current quest giver, they are up all the time I believe.
评论来自
barneylegh
The most annoying of the PVE family achievements.
You can only battle the trainers when their WQ is up - except Durian Strongfruit (who is an easy win for ALL families) is bugged, meaning you can only fight him once per character.
The pet is visually striking, but not actually that great for battling. Ah well!
评论来自
caroleen
Only took 6 years but Durian Strongheart finally got fixed. You can now battle him repeatedly.
评论来自
Demiano
What am I missing here? its been over a year with me checking daily and 6 of the required tamers NEVER came up with world quests. Is this achievement supposed to take 20 years or is it broken?
EDIT: OK so nobody mentioned this and I wasted a year for nothing, there are 4 pet tamers dailies that spawn in Dalaran and DO NOT show up on your world map if you have the daily quest addon, you have to click on Dalaran and look at Dalarans map to see if they are up... wow. ALSO there are 2 that spawn in suramar and if havent done the suramar quest line they dont show up for you. I logged on my old main from legion and sure enough he could see them. I finally got the achievement done
评论来自
Cocodamol
Absolutely SUCKY quest as multiple times you'll get days, like today, where NONE of the required quests are up! Typically Blizzard sucking with their achievement designing
链接
全谱系制霸
完成下列所有成就。
达成条件
水性亲和
(
1
)
鼠患成灾
(
1
)
学着点,拉格纳罗斯
(
1
)
鱼人、鹰身人和狼獾人!
(
1
)
机甲大师
(
1
)
万兽之王
(
1
)
有龙!
(
1
)
百鸟来朝
(
1
)
魔法大师
(
1
)
小小通灵师
(
1
)
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