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评论来自
339106
Not in the same game, thank god. Just disarm 25 bombs in total by right clicking on them.
评论来自
438317
From what I saw disarming my one bomb, they do not have the same radius as in SotA, I'd say a 5-10 yard radius
Edit:
After playing a few matches the radius was very short,(five yards) however I noticed that you can disarm bombs through the door, provided that they are close enough, be warned though, explosions and the siege ram will hit you through the door as well
Also about a 1.5 second disarm time
评论来自
maddoggmitch
This achievement isn't too bad when you consider that there is a teleporter right next to both bases' front gates. Because disarming a bomb only takes two seconds, it's fairly easy to teleport in and disarm at least one bomb before the opposing team notices you.
When you die and are resurrected, simply book it to the nearest teleporter out of the base, heal up and wait for the debuff to expire, then use the teleporter near the front gate, hopefully snagging another bomb in the process.
This achievement took me about 10 games using this strategy. Beware of pets set on "aggressive" and players with quick reaction times.
评论来自
236440
I thought this one was going to take along time and alot of time to get. But as a paladin I noticed I can disarm bombs when I have Divine Shield active. With other words you will not get interupted unless a priest or warrior is fast to remove it.
After horde got into our base from hangar and 30+ hordes in our base, you can easy disarm 3-5 bombs while beeing immune.
Saved me for alot of work with interupts and stuff...
For the people who do not have Divine Shield... Good luck this archivment is not hard, just takes some time.
评论来自
Aldun
Very easy achievement if you know how to: when the game starts, stand on the place where the gates will be when they close. After theyre closed, you can disarm bombs from both sides and enemies won't see you. Beware tho, aoe's from bombs etc still can hit you.
评论来自
30597
I completed this as a Warrior the other night. After about 50 games of Isle, I only had 4 out of 25. I thought at first that the achievement would be a complete pain in the neck, but I now realize that the right "type" of games simply weren't happening. What I mean by that is, I did the remaining 21 bombs in a two-game span.
The best circumstance is for the opposing team to control the Workshop for the entire match, while you linger near your keep's front gates. Demolishers/Sieges will come towards you in waves, along with packs of players looking to drop a bomb on the gate. Most players drop their bomb and flee, leaving you to fight with a teammate to see who can disarm it first. Also, many drivers of the soon-to-be-dead Demolishers have bombs on them that they will drop once their vehicle bites the dust. I like to "hide" within the body of the vehicles and spam click in the vicinity where I predict a bomb to soon be.
If the opposing team has a heavy presence outside of your gate and it's not overly safe for you to linger out there with them, then just watch the action from inside your gate, and when you see someone running up to drop a bomb, teleport outside and try to disarm it before they can react to you suddenly being there.
Good luck!
评论来自
somegit
The most difficult and annoying Achievement in this set by far. Well there are some equally annoying, but this one can be very fustrating, and take perhaps the longest. I know it was the last for me apart from the vet one. Anyway, after many fustrating hours of no luck what so ever, I began to ponder on how to accomplish it. And I came up with a few plans that are a little outside of the box, but they still work.These strats should work for those who have no other means, like Rogues, and bubble pallies.
The first is a simple plan, but requires patience. And for enimies to be inside of your base.First you need to set yourself between the defence towers and one of the gates, at least on the horde side, you can drop down and walk along it untill you are near the gate. That way, you are able to quickly get to the bomb as they run away, and still be within the time limit of 10 minutes. though this isn't always bound to work, if they are attentive to their own bomb. Just make sure you stay out of their line of sight when they are running bombs back to the gate, and only drop down when they have their back turned, then quickly port out to avoid detection.
The second method requires a little more cunning and patience, and again people who arn't paying attention to their own bombs. But for this one you require a special item. No not a special axe, or sword, or even shield. You need an Elixer, Noggin Fogger to be precise. What I did was drink the potion till I was teny tiny. As a Tauren, it was needed. And for added measure, the boney effect as well to minimize my size as much as possible. Now I was lucky to have a group of allies running back and forth from the front gate with no other team mates interupting them. Near the gate I hid behind one of the burning fires and kept myself out of their line of sight as much as I could. Being small, it was easy to hide behind the fire, so even my name was hidden. Then as they planted a bomb and rushed back to the pile, I raced from the torch, disarmed the bomb, and ran back for cover. I was able to claim 4 bombs in one battle using this strategy.
If these work for anyone else more power to you, but as I said they are horde side tested. I am now on my way to earn the tabard by winning 100 battles... however long that takes.
评论来自
451135
As a paladin this achievement isn't too bad. Simply wait inside the base (preferably out of sight from the courtyard i.e. in the base or the top of the turret towers) and wait for the opposing team members to parachute/catapult in. If you're lucky, they will trickle in one or two at a time, and there will probably be very few defenders to kill them. As they approach a gate with a bomb, start moving towards them trying to time your arrival a second or two after the bomb has been planted. If they run off, let them go and proceed to disarm the bomb. If they are really dedicated to blowing that wall down (or getting that other achievement), stun/repentance (be ready with the other as they often will trinket >:) and disarm the bomb. Tell them to /go, and run back to your hiding place. Usually they will not chase you, and you'll be able to repeat this several times on each player depending.
评论来自
RogueLeader
The trick to this is the right circumstances: a heavy enemy presence at your gates means you'll likely be hit repeatedly until the bomb explodes with you next to it. Get people manning your keep cannons and keep the other team off them should they airlift or catapult in to take them out, and you should thin the enemy presence outside your gates long enough to disarm any bombs they may drop. If they are inside, you'll have to kill or CC them before you can disarm safely. (of course none of this applies when they aren't protecting their bombs)
By far the worst part is actually getting the enemy to drop bombs since they do so little damage for the time and risk invested. Your best bet is in games where they only have either the hangar or workshop and your team has the other two non-resource nodes.
评论来自
111622
I see what you mean, usually when we cap Workshop and Hanger, I saw screw this achievement. It's common for every single person to go Docks right now since they don't know that Glaives are made of glass. Keep in mind, the other team can't get bombs unless they are either in your base, have Workshop, or both. Too much of a conditional achievement imo, I'm 25 games away from Master and only have 14 bombs disarmed.
评论来自
Quaeras
The key to this achi is definitely the element of surprise.
First, the enemy needs a delivery system. That means either the hangar for air drops, the docks for catapults, or the workshop for direct bombing.
One of the hardest parts of executing this achi is enemy prerogative. If nobody drops a bomb, no bombs can be disarmed.
Figure out as the battle goes on what the possible delivery systems are. If the bombs can only come from inside, hide in a corner and spam tab, or rely on an add-on to find enemy targets for you. When you notice one that has the bomb, don't just rush in- observe. Most people will try to drop multiple bombs.
Right after a player drops their payload, spring into action. Defensive cooldowns are excellent here. I also have swiftness potions on hand. Depending on your class, you may prefer free/living action potions. As a hunter I start shadowmelded, wyvern sting then disengage towards the bomb. I pop deterrence as I land and often manage to barely disarm the bomb.
If possible, stand within range of the teleporter, so you cover both sides.
Don't kid yourself- things have to fall just right for this to work out. Players on the other team need to be quick to drop and run away, and they have to be lacking attention, or get distracted.
Expect to take a while doing this... and yes, it can be infuriating to get pounded into the ground with 0.1 seconds left on that action bar. Keep at it.
评论来自
Xebas
Easiest as Alliance, as you can see trough the door and then port yourself out and disarm one. But just defend. And when you see the enemy in your courtyard dont kill them. Let them plant bomb, disarm, run a bit away, let them plant bomb, disarm, run...
评论来自
484116
For me, the easiest way to finish this achievement was to...die.
You die near a gate under attack and you come back as a ghost. This way, you see every enemy and every bomb without being seen, and you just have to resurrect next to a bomb to disarm it (with the element of surprise, which is a plus).
Of course it's not perfect: with each death you'll have to wait more and more before you can resurrect but i managed to disarm about 3 or 4 bombs on average per battleground using this method.
Also sometimes someone loots your corpse and you can't come back as a ghost, but most of the time they are in a hurry to get another bomb, so they don't bother.
Remove your clothes if you don't want to pay for the repairs.
评论来自
dearleader
Waiting while a ghost to rez and disarm bombs works very nicely.
Also if you're a mage then you can go invisible when you spawn, run to the gate - see bombs, and usually disarm two before the alliance see you.
It's typical to get at least 5 disarms in a lopsided loss this way.
评论来自
252560
Trying to do this as a healer is fun.
I pray the horde don't notice me as I levitate from the gun tower to the gate to disarm them.
评论来自
449446
Here's how I did this as a lock:
At the start of the game when the gate opens I decide which gate I think the other team is going to attack(in this case, they were always attacking the west gate). then when the gate closes, I teleport to my portal, and wala, I'm under our team's gate!
Now I run towards the keep's wall, because you can't see anything on the other side if you're just under the gate (you'll know what I mean if you try it, I have several screen shots to show where to stand). now I create a soulstone and use it, drink several Noggenfogger Elixers to make myself small, then wait for the team to come with bombs.
Next, just wait for them to plant one, run up to it, disarm it, and port back as fast as I can. Once you've ported they can't hurt you :]. Now just sit and eat/drink if I need to, and rinse and repeat.
This method works on both sides of the gate, no matter if they take hangar or the workshop, you'll have better luck with hangar though. Good Luck!
评论来自
Azazel
I have a question. Let's say that me and my friend group up for IoC, so that we are in a group before getting into the BG raid group, would I, for an example, get credit if my friend disarmed a bomb, because we are in the same group?
评论来自
tupapison
Since when do achievements count if one person does it? achievements are individual...same as if you kill Iron council with the flask on, only you get the achievement, not the group.....
are you new to wow?
评论来自
Lombra
This achievement no longer has a counter. Likely unintentional, of course. Anyone knows if it's still completable?
评论来自
erdos1913
I'm kind of surprised no one has mentioned the origin of the name of this achievement. Here is the scene that made this phrase famous. It's from a 1974 movie called Juggernaut starring Richard Harris (the first Dumbledore) and Anthony Hopkins (of Hannibal Lecter fame). In the movie, there are several bombs planted aboard a cruise ship. Richard Harris' team has spent the better part of 2 hours trying to disarm them and have finally reached the detonators. Before them is a simple choice: a red and blue wire. It's not a terrible movie, but it's one of those Saturday afternoon disaster flick kind of films.
btw, this clip is a huge spoiler so don't watch if you ever plan to see the film in its entirety.
http://movieclips.com/dWJQx-juggernaut-movie-cut-the-blue-wire/
评论来自
ArawnAun
Do date this remands unfixed... really great work blizzard.
评论来自
rebeccam
Although this achievement is bugged with the counter (as of 4.0.3) and I was fortunate enough to complete it before Cataclysm came out, I would like to share my thoughts and strategy from the perspective of a Horde discipline priest. As a class with no movement speed buffs (at the time) or escape mechanisms, I strongly believe that this would be an achievement any class could complete with ease. Because it was before Cataclysm and the hangar bug was fixed, the only way for the Alliance to drop the bombs was via Workshop and Docks. If your team controls both of these, don't linger around the base waiting for them to be recapped; go out and fight or else you will be reported AFK or get bored of waiting. This achievement will take several games to complete and will get VERY frustrating - so look at each bomb as an accomplishment and a step towards your goal.
I started this achievement and through the course of around 10 games, I had 4 bombs disarmed. Naturally, I was frustrated by this achievement and the amount of time I thought it would take. If you sit at the top of the tower and jump down once you see someone come up, chances are you won't get there in time or you will take a significant chunk of fall damage. There are two easier ways to get this achievement, if they control either Docks (and now Hangar) or Workshop (or even both, just use whatever strategy works best for you or whatever the bombers on the other side are doing more often).
Before you begin this achievement, like many other posters have suggested, I strongly suggest you invest in around 100 Noggenfogger Elixirs, available in Tanaris after completing a short quest line. I recommend getting a large number of these because you may not receive your desired effect at first and you will need to reapply it with death/every ten minutes. I believe I used around 40-50, but having more would never hurt. Although it most likely will not matter, use a smaller mount, rather than a large one. Remove any long title that the enemy could potentially see from your hiding spots.
The first method I recommend (and the one that worked best for me) is to take all the necessary precautions listed above, mount up, and hide behind the boxes/barrels /bushes in your base to the left of the east wall. When someone runs up, drops a bomb, turns around, and runs away a few feet, it is generally safe to rush in and disarm it. Mount up once again and return to your hiding place. If they see you, run towards the teleporter to the right of the door. You can quickly escape and return through another teleporter and they usually will not see you. This strategy loses some efficiency when more than 3 people are running bombs. Chances are, there will always be someone at the gate or running up to the gate to see you. Still, a well-timed disarm and quick Psychic Scream or Frost Nova to make your escape can also work.
The second method is much less effective, but can still work. Essentially, it is the first method with a lot more commotion from vehicles and no good place to hide. In addition, it relies on the opposing team's bombers to not watch their bombs very closely once they've been dropped and have horrible awareness of enemies around them. Drink your Noggenfogger and mount up. You can either stand on the teleporter itself (people didn't generally notice me when I was standing on it) or stand behind the slight protrusion on the side of the gate. Once you see a bomb dropped, employ the strategy used in the first method - run in, crowd control if necessary, disarm, and get the hell out. If there are a lot of enemies outside the gate with no allies to distract them, this method is nearly impossible to execute.
TL;DR - Get babysized and hide behind boxes.
评论来自
Reedtz
I have been working on this achievement and have now reached about 50 disarms before realising the achievement is broken (had to be sure).
ANYWAY.
A method which I found to be pretty much idiot proof has been to do whatever until the opposing team has taken control of either the a) Dock or b) Hangar. Once this has been done I would then proceed to return to our base. From there I'd kill myself by jumping down from the tower, dying in a corner near the west gate. I'd then wait until the opposing faction made their way into our keep through catapults or parachutes, and then just as they run back to pick up a new bomb after having placed another, I'd ressurect and disarm it. Even if they are still near the element of surprise generally beats the two seconds they have to react. This tactic usually allows for a good 3-4 disarms a BG (assuming conditions are right of course) unless the enemies catch on and start removing your corpse.
Hope it helps!
评论来自
fraeg
It appears to be unfixed after 4.06, however my counter was reset back to 0/25.
评论来自
Reedtz
Yes. I ticketed the issue yesterday and the GM told me that it (hopefully) should be resolved with 4.0.6. Suppose you can't have everything though :)
Edit: Yes works now with 4.0.6
评论来自
Ophion
The count towards this achievement is resetted with the 4.0.6 patch but atleast its working again :p
评论来自
738843
EASIEST WAY TO GET THIS ACHIEVEMENT!
A few things are needed for this method to work, but really only one important thing:
The other team must have hangar.
When they start parachuting into your base, they will start to run bombs. So you might be saying to yourself, "Oh but Offense, when they come in I just get steam rolled and kicked to the curb and GY camped!" Don't be silly, you don't try and disarm the bombs head on!
No..there's a much more sinister plan!
1. Find out which gate they're running bombs to. If you're alliance, generally it's the gate to the left if you're facing our keep.
2. Use the teleporter to teleport outside of your gate
3. Hug the outside of the gate wall, but angle your camera so you're still able to see over the gate
4. You're now able to click THROUGH the gate to disarm the bombs, and they can't stop you. :)
Got the achievement in 3 matches doing this, good luck!
评论来自
kardanis
After the last patch when all the cheevos became BOA I am going to get on my 70/80ish stealther alt, stay invisible by the gates, do my thing and then get it done toward the whole account and my main:)
评论来自
Kurojaki
Doing this in MoP seems they have changed it, the bombs inside the keeps now count towards this achviement making it rather easy :)
评论来自
TriesteHunter
The tactic of standing under the gate as it closes no longer works; it simply pushes you out.
The Alliance tactic of disarming the bombs from outside the gate no longer works; you simply are not in range.
(Cost me 30 bucks to figure this one out.)
评论来自
Orissan
One word: Noggenfogger.
That little potion let my my big beefy orc warrior become a tiny skeleton, then after laying down in a corner, no one notices.
Most of the time, they don't notice their Mariachi friend is actually disarming everything.
评论来自
maely
Seems daunting, but I actually earned the entire achievement from scratch tonight in only ~2 hours time (as Alliance, helps that Horde usually takes Hangar). As soon as the bg started, I ran up the East tower and waited for a couple Hordies to parachute in. I got most of my disarms by: jumping down/levitating from the tower when a Hordie laid a bomb and turned around, or by letting a Hordie kill me near the gate and ghost-running over to the gate and res-ninja'ing the disarm. I was averaging 2-6 disarms per bg, although a couple times I got none. Remember, you have ~10 sec to disarm a bomb, but it takes ~2sec to successfully execute the disarm. If you get interrupted, you may still be able to pull it off with some well-timed crowd control. Good luck!
评论来自
Silmala
As of 6.2.3 you can still disarm the bombs through the gate (for alliance at least). Managed to get mine in one game alone.
评论来自
jinkusu121
As of 7.0.3 the alliance can't seem to disarm bombs from the outside of their gate. It gives the error: target not in line of sight. Guess we have to fight them from the inside now.
评论来自
Decypha
"A wise man gets more from his enemies, than a fool from his friends"
I highly recommend sticking with the losing matches all the way through... I got over 90% of this done waiting inside the keep with my Hunter in 6 matches in 2024
It's kind of pointless being in the keep in a winning game, very rarely would you see the opposing side in there.
The winning strategy is grab hangar, fly a few down to workshop, send demolishers up to hangar and attack workshop flag so it can't be capped.
Use:
* Any type of stealth/invis you have (shadowmeld, camouflage, invisibility, vanish etc)
* Potion of the Hushed Zephyr
* Noggenfogger Elixir makes yout tiny and hard to see
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