Fantastic change. Crafting a cauldron for an NPC was just too silly.
Everforged weapons are ruining me!
if i get one more charged slicer craft order that's not filled atleast 80% i'm gonna be so mad, i don't wanna spend 50k gold for a patron order
Just today got a work order that had 0/10 sanctified alloys provided by NPC, so nothing really changed
Doesn't do much for BS until the tinderbox issue is addressed
my BS still gets orders asking me to buy 6x sanctified alloy or multiple tinderboxes, 60k in mats for 2 knowledge points is outrageous
Why don't patron orders provide all materials? I'm not crafting #$%^ that requires thousands of gold for an npc order. God forbid we get a couple knowledge points hassle free...
Hear me out now, what if patron orders just provided all the ingredients? Crazy I know. Or if they somehow provided 80-90% of every ingredient. Most of these orders are less "patron" orders and more "patronizing" orders.
I don't know why patron orders are allowed to require minimum quality at all. Aren't these supposed to be a replacement for just giving us free mettle last expac? Why add more barriers to completing them?
Finally a few changes to this system. They should always provide most mats unless the reward (artisan/knowledge) is far greater than the usual. Like a rare work order with outstanding rewards, for a price.Still has a long way to go. Remember that this system is replacing the guaranteed world drops, weekly crafting quest from trainers and weekly artisan currency. While also trying to act as a catch-up system (Dragon Shards) and making it easier to deal with the weekly artisan work order quest (instead of using alts to create work orders for you).It failed hard at everything. The systems replaced were far cheaper/easier to deal with and the catch-up system/alt work order also fail since you end up not being able to complete most of the work orders anyway because of the required ranks, unlearned recipes and/or not having the mats (while also requiring these very rare/expensive mats).They should also remove the very expensive work orders. No reason to waste very rare and expensive mats on NPCs for such low artisan/knowledge reward. Or at least provide the expensive mats if they really want to keep these.It was also said that as the time goes on and you're not able to complete the orders, the system would start to replace them with easier ones until you were able to complete (and the catch-up system would act on it creating more if needed). As of now, this is not true.
This patron work order system feels like a mission table that COSTS you tens of thousands of gold, instead of actually rewarding you with anything. Hard pass.
IMO the further behind on KP you are the more reagents the NPCs should offer
Thank N'Zoth. Nothing like brokie NPCs asking me to front them 40k in mats in exchange for 15 acuity and 3 skill points that I don't need haha
Ive been saying for a while that the Patrons should really supply all the reagents since the rewards they give for crafting aren't worth crafting a decent amount of what is listedSure as an Alchemist its nice because I don't get work orders at all, so I don't mind crafting some of the stuff that takes a few hundred gold (ill farm the herbs then craft)but for some professions liked Black Smithing where things can take thousands of gold the lack of the high cost reagents isnt even worth having the patron system, especially not for 80 gold and a single knowledge point
Meanwhile, Blacksmithing is still getting spammed with orders that need 50k+ worth of reagents...
The entire crafting system needs an overhaul of the overhaul. It’s all horrible, convoluted, overpriced, too many currencies and reagents, no ability to place public orders with a rank requirement. In fact those ranks should just go away too. Ranks on herbs? Good grief. These NPC orders are just another symptom of the problem. I guess we have two more years to wait for any real solutions. Good job, Blizz.
I agree with most comments here. Any profession that requires Profaned Tinderbox is insane expensive, and it is mainly Blacksmithing that suffers from this. Why is this reagent so hard to obtain, and in turn expensive to purchase to begin with, when the description of the item suggests the opposite. I currently have 3 work orders that require 8 or more Sanctified Alloy, which I'm never going to do this way as the work order costs an easy 50,000 gold in materials, and only gives me like a 100 gold in return with 10 to 30 Acuity.
Still not going to partake in these stupid things unless the NPC gives the entirety of the needed things. Barely offer any gold for them, rely on us to provide sometimes very rare reagents, and they even decided to tie in Progression for the overly convoluted professions into these. These need serious rework and the NPCs need to provide the mats.Otherwise I'm just back to doing exactly why we all hated this stupid weekly quest in Dragonflight, Sending myself stupid workorders just to satisfy this stupid weekly quest.