Shadowlands Warrior Class Changes for June 17 - Single Minded Fury, Arms Mastery Redesigned

Shadowlands Posted 2020/06/17 at 7:18 PM by perculia

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Mastery: Deep Wounds no longer scales damage and instead causes bleeding targets to take increased damage, thereby allowing Deep Wounds to contribute a much smaller percentage of damage done in relation to direct strikes.

Execute no longer inflicts Deep Wounds, retaining Mortal Strike in the sub-20% rotation to maintain the damage increasing mastery debuff. Because Deep Wounds lasts 12s now, it won't need to be used strictly on cooldown, leaving Execute as the main rage spender at the end of encounters.

Cleave once again has a cooldown and now replaces Sweeping Strikes, but no longer requires three targets or Whirlwind to be used first. This makes the ability a tool for enabling the Deep Wounds debuff rather than a major source of damage. It also now benefits from the damage bonus from Overpower, competing with Mortal Strike.

Collateral Damage has been redesigned with a more creative effect to make it appealing outside of pure 2-target situations.

once again replaces Bladestorm and inflicts Deep Wounds, but has a lower cooldown to better compete with Bladestorm.

Fury

Single-Minded Fury returns alongside Titan's Grip, allowing Fury Warriors to dual wield one-handed or two-handed weapons.

Several talents have been added, removed, changed places, or redesigned.
- Inner Rage, Furious Slash, Fervor of Battle, and Wrecking Ball have been removed.
- Frenzy, Seethe, Cruelty, and Meat Cleaver have all been added.
- Frothing Berserker, Onslaught, Dragon Roar and have been redesigned.
- During , Bloodthirst and Raging Blow deal 100% increased damage with an extra effect; Bloodbath has a 3 second cooldown (down from 4.5s), and Crushing Blow charges targets within 10 yards.

Recklessness now generates 40 rage on use, thereby better allowing players to open with Rampage when used alongside Charge.

Collateral Damage has been redesigned with a more creative effect to make it more appealing outside of pure 2-target situations.

Protection

Dragon Roar and Ravager have been updated similar to Arms and Fury.

Ignore Pain now caps at 2x value (up from 1.3x)

Blizzard

Updated June 17

Hello to all of the seasoned soldiers, raging barbarians, and ironclad commanders of Azeroth! The newest Shadowlands Alpha build has a number of changes for Warriors, primarily focused on talents. We're happy with the playstyle of each spec, and our philosophy for core abilities is generally “if it ain't broke, don't fix it”. That said, there are a number of talents in each tree that could use some love. Some were underutilized in Battle for Azeroth (eg., Collateral Damage for Arms, and Inner Rage for Fury) and haven't seen changes yet, or their first set of changes in Shadowlands haven't quite hit the mark (Frothing Berserker for Fury). We're looking forward to hearing your thoughts and feedback on the new and updated talents!We'd like to call out that Arms' Mastery and Deep Wounds have been redesigned. We heard your feedback that Mastery: Deep Wounds' overwhelming contribution to the damage breakdown felt unrewarding, and we agree. The new design will be a much smaller proportion of Arms' direct damage, and should reward skillful target selection more than the previous version.Single-Minded Fury has returned to Fury Warriors, with an updated design. This means that Fury Warriors can now receive one-handed weapons as item drops, though that may not be implemented in this build.For Protection, a major topic of discussion has been the status of the Unstoppable Force build that exists in Battle for Azeroth. There are a lot of individual effects contributing to the build: talents, Azerite Traits, and Essences. The core components, however, are the Anger Management and Unstoppable Force talents, which can still be taken together in Shadowlands. In Battle for Azeroth, the multiplicative nature of the other effects is so powerful that Unstoppable Force overshadows any other setup or playstyle. We'd like to leave Protection in a more conservative position until the rest of their potential toolkit is known - additional Rage generation, cooldown reduction, etc. from Conduits and/or Legendaries may quickly have an outsized impact on the strength of Unstoppable Force. We hear your feedback that the playstyle is extremely fun! The intention isn't to remove it completely, and we'll be keeping a close eye on how things shape up in the next few months in order to revisit and tweak things before the game launches. Thank you for your patience and ongoing feedback - it's extremely valuable to us.Arms Warrior

Mastery: Mastery: Deep Wounds has been redesigned. Now, Mortal Strike and Bladestorm inflict Mastery: Deep Wounds, dealing bleed damage over 12 seconds and increasing the damage the enemy takes from you.*

Developers' notes: Removing Execute as a Mastery: Deep Wounds applicator helps keep Mortal Strike relevant sub-20% health, without relying entirely on its damage-per-Rage in comparison to Mortal Strike.

Mastery rating will increase the “damage the enemy takes from you” effect, rather than Mastery: Deep Wounds' damage.

Developers' notes: We feel it is important for Arms to have a bleed in their core kit, but Mastery: Deep Wounds' direct contribution to damage dealt was overwhelming.

Execute damage increased by 20%.
Mortal Strike damage reduced by 5%.
has been redesigned to give it more identity, and differentiation from Bladestorm. again replaces Bladestorm when talented, and inflicts Mastery: Deep Wounds (reverting previous Shadowlands changes). Cooldown reduced to 45 seconds, and duration increased to 12 seconds (still reduced by Haste). now chases nearby enemies.
Collateral Damage has been redesigned: When your abilities damage a second target due to Sweeping Strikes, they refund 30% of their Rage cost.

Developers' notes: Collateral Damage's previous design turned out to be too niche. We want to support Sweeping Strikes in talents, and this new version should be more broadly applicable outside of strictly 2-target situations.

Cleave has been redesigned: Replaces Sweeping Strikes. 20 Rage. 6 second cooldown. Cleaves up to 5 enemies in front of you for Physical damage, inflicting Mastery: Deep Wounds. Cleave will consume your Overpower effect to deal increased damage.

Developers' notes: Cleave clashed with Sweeping Strikes at lower target counts, making it feel useful primarily while SS is not active. By having it replace Sweeping Strikes when talented, Cleave can stand on its own and more dramatically affect Arms' AoE gameplay.

Fury Warrior

Single-Minded Fury is back. Learned at level 14 alongside Titan's Grip, Fury Warriors can once again use their abilities while dual-wielding one-handed weapons. While dual-wielding a pair of one-handed weapons, your damage done is increased by 8% and your movement speed is increased by 5%.
Recklessness now generates 40 Rage.
The following talents have been removed: Inner Rage, Furious Slash, Fervor of Battle, and Wrecking Ball.
Frenzy is a new talent: Rampage increases your Haste by 3% for 12 seconds, stacking up to 3 times. This effect is reset if you Rampage a different primary target.
Seethe is a new talent: Bloodthirst generates 2 more Rage, or 4 more Rage when it critically strikes your primary target.
Cruelty is a new talent: While Enraged, Raging Blow deals 20% more damage and has a 30% chance to instantly reset its own cooldown.
Frothing Berserker updated: Rampage has a 20% chance to immediately refund 40 Rage.
Meat Cleaver is back: Whirlwind deals 30% more damage and now affects your next 4 single-target melee attacks, instead of the next 2.
Onslaught now generates 15 Rage (was 10).
Dragon Roar cooldown reduced to 30 seconds (was 35 seconds). No longer reduces enemy movement speed. Now critically strikes for 3 times normal damage.
Bladestorm damage increased by 20% (Fury only).
updated: Recklessness generates 20 more Rage and greatly empowers Bloodthirst and Raging Blow. Bloodthirst becomes Bloodbath, dealing 100% more damage on a 3 second cooldown. Raging Blow becomes Crushing Blow, dealing 100% more damage and charging you to your target within 10 yards.

Developers' notes: We'd love to hear your thoughts on how it feels using empowered Bloodthirst and Raging Blow.

Protection Warrior

Ravager has been updated to match the changes made to Arms' version of the ability: 45 second cooldown, lasts 12 seconds (compressed by Haste), deals damage every 2 seconds, chases nearby enemies, and generates 10 Rage each time it deals damage.
Dragon Roar has been updated to match the changes made to Fury's version of the ability: 30 second cooldown, no longer reduces enemy movement speed, critically strikes for 3 times normal damage.
Crackling Thunder now also increases the movement speed reduction of Thunder Clap by 10%.
Ignore Pain now caps at 2x value (was a cap of 1.3x value).

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Comment by Tech23...Gladiator stance...? /cry I really want it back.Comment by DeuZWwYES, YES, YES, A THOUSAND YES. MY WORGEN WEARING TWO FIST WEAPONS WILL HAPPEN.

I HAVE BEEN AFK FOR TOO LONG.

I'M SO BACK TO WOW IN SHADOWLANDS! The hyyyyyyyyyyypeeee!Comment by EnalisI feel like Arms is coming out quite lacluster with these changes, Anger Management is still going to overpower anything else in that row making ravager once again a no go talent especially since it once again replaces Bladestorm. The debuff to increase damage is nice but debuffing the damage on Mortal Strike kinda sucks, especially if you're trying to encourage continued use sub 20%- depending on the numbers execute spam will likely continue to be the go to, and it dosnt make it ultimately that more engaging that instead of it being spam execute it changes to execute x3 then mortal strike. And while I get that that is the point, feels bad seeing other specs getting all these shiney new toys and QoL updates and Arms feels like it is getting left behind. If you want a bleed to be a core part of our kit. give us Rend baseline. More rage generation abilities would be huge as well, Arms is already a spec that feels starved when you dont have haste coming out your ears, and you have to talent into a rage generator that is on a decent length cooldown that dosnt even give you enough rage for a single Mortal Strike.

Also, why is sweeping strikes still on the Global CD?Comment by MaenariusSo reckless abandon makes fury warrior into an even more discount DH?Comment by ChunkyCoffeeI still think they need to make a way to decline 1h or 2h weapon drops on a spec that drops both. Without the ability to decline one your loot pool doubles the amount of useless items to your build. Also there will always be a more optimal version of the spec when it comes to dual wielding vs 2handing, and they usually have completely different stat priorities too. People respond by going "yeah but spell casters have staves and 1hand+offhand dropping for them as well" Spellcasters weapons are literally stat sticks that do not alter your playstyle at all when using a staff or 1hand+offhand, as stated before DW vs 2H styles for classes usually have different stat priorities. Meaning in order to use that 1hand weapon that just dropped over a currently equipped 2hand you need an entirely different set of gear with different stats, spellcasters don't, a spellcaster just needs 2 bag slots opens to have alternating weapons between 2h and 1h. Currently a TG warrior could just spec for arms and get only 2h, sure but, a SMF one will not be able to, same with other specs having this readded to them.

Also when this was a thing last time, we didn't have personal loot, we could just not roll for an item if it wasn't 1h or 2h, now it gets put in your bags and if it is an item level upgrade then no one can use it and it is wasted. So unless they by some balancing miracle made it so that the damage difference between 2h and DW per spec was negligible AND they somehow both have the same exact stat priority, then no one building one way will ever want to use the other style and will have their loot pool opened up to even more items not useful to them and unlike spellcasters not in a "aww I have to get 1 more item to use that" way. Or they can remove the no trade due to ilvl on personal loot and it'd still suck to get an item you can't use but it'd suck less, although that could open a whole 'nother can of worms entirely...

Personally, I would love to go SMF on a warrior, but I don't want to be purposely gimping myself for the sake of aesthetic, because it's one thing to play a spec that is underperforming on the charts, but it's another thing to purposely choose to play a version of that spec that is significantly worse than another, so as long as SMF is doing somewhere near same amount as TG (I think last time TG was significantly outperforming) then I can probably deal with the whole getting 2hs that drop that I can't use, I'd just wish it wasn't the case.Comment by LagoshaoLooking nice on the fury warrior changesComment by RodrigoLeaf...Gladiator stance...? /cry I really want it back.Comment by OldburyFury is looking fun to play. I hope Titan's Grip is still the best option; it would be a crying shame if SMF is the better performer as people who want 1h-dual-wield can visit many other specs in the game, but only Fury can dual-wield 2h weapons.

I won't be taking my Warrior forward regardless, Prot is looking dreadful and really monotonous again with it's one-way-to-play talent tree. Anger Management needs to be baseline for Prot, c'mon Blizzard.Comment by FedeenjoiYES! SINGLE MINDED FURY IS BACK!
I'M SO DAMN HAPPY! THANKS BLIZZARD, THANKS! finally they're listening to players!Comment by MaximusPMYES, YES, YES, A THOUSAND YES. MY WORGEN WEARING TWO FIST WEAPONS WILL HAPPEN.

I HAVE BEEN AFK FOR TOO LONG.

I'M SO BACK TO WOW IN SHADOWLANDS! The hyyyyyyyyyyypeeee!Comment by YocoI feel like Arms is coming out quite lacluster with these changes, Anger Management is still going to overpower anything else in that row making ravager once again a no go talent especially since it once again replaces Bladestorm. The debuff to increase damage is nice but debuffing the damage on Mortal Strike kinda sucks, especially if you're trying to encourage continued use sub 20%- depending on the numbers execute spam will likely continue to be the go to, and it dosnt make it ultimately that more engaging that instead of it being spam execute it changes to execute x3 then mortal strike. And while I get that that is the point, feels bad seeing other specs getting all these shiney new toys and QoL updates and Arms feels like it is getting left behind. If you want a bleed to be a core part of our kit. give us Rend baseline. More rage generation abilities would be huge as well, Arms is already a spec that feels starved when you dont have haste coming out your ears, and you have to talent into a rage generator that is on a decent length cooldown that dosnt even give you enough rage for a single Mortal Strike.Comment by darkosososI still think they need to make a way to decline 1h or 2h weapon drops on a spec that drops both. Without the ability to decline one your loot pool doubles the amount of useless items to your build. Also there will always be a more optimal version of the spec when it comes to dual wielding vs 2handing, and they usually have completely different stat priorities too. People respond by going "yeah but spell casters have staves and 1hand+offhand dropping for them as well" Spellcasters weapons are literally stat sticks that do not alter your playstyle at all when using a staff or 1hand+offhand, as stated before DW vs 2H styles for classes usually have different stat priorities. Meaning in order to use that 1hand weapon that just dropped over a currently equipped 2hand you need an entirely different set of gear with different stats, spellcasters don't, a spellcaster just needs 2 bag slots opens to have alternating weapons between 2h and 1h. Currently a TG warrior could just spec for arms and get only 2h, sure but, a SMF one will not be able to, same with other specs having this readded to them.

Also when this was a thing last time, we didn't have personal loot, we could just not roll for an item if it wasn't 1h or 2h, now it gets put in your bags and if it is an item level upgrade then no one can use it and it is wasted. So unless they by some balancing miracle made it so that the damage difference between 2h and DW per spec was negligible AND they somehow both have the same exact stat priority, then no one building one way will ever want to use the other style and will have their loot pool opened up to even more items not useful to them and unlike spellcasters not in a "aww I have to get 1 more item to use that" way. Or they can remove the no trade due to ilvl on personal loot and it'd still suck to get an item you can't use but it'd suck less, although that could open a whole 'nother can of worms entirely...

Personally, I would love to go SMF on a warrior, but I don't want to be purposely gimping myself for the sake of aesthetic, because it's one thing to play a spec that is underperforming on the charts, but it's another thing to purposely choose to play a version of that spec that is significantly worse than another, so as long as SMF is doing somewhere near same amount as TG (I think last time TG was significantly outperforming) then I can probably deal with the whole getting 2hs that drop that I can't use, I'd just wish it wasn't the case.Comment by OccamOC...Gladiator stance...? /cry I really want it back.Comment by TehZerp...Gladiator stance...? /cry I really want it back.Comment by FacerockkerPlease lord, let there be something to replace Furious Slash. Make it baseline maybe? The spec has such a bare bones rotation with out it.Comment by criolloPlease, work in SV hunters :(Comment by Franny21Does that mean 60% of arms damage won't come from deep wounds anymore? OMEGAKEKWComment by mythreignglad stance back come plz !Comment by trog...Gladiator stance...? /cry I really want it back.Comment by UDtheAesirNice, looking forward to the new Fury warrior changes!

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