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AH Cartels & Rare Drop Farms - Wowhead Economy Weekly Wrap-Up 318
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Publié
10/03/2024 à 14:33
par
SamadanPlaysWoW
Hello! Welcome to the 318th edition of the WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-up!
This week we discuss if there are such things as Auction House Cartels and the effects of the Region Wide Auction House. We also have a look at farms for rare spawns and instances, discussing where to go and what addons to use. Finally, we have some great tips for outdoor world farms in Season of Discovery!
My name is
Samadan
and I'll be your guide through the World of Gold Making!
Is There an AH Cartel?
An interesting observation by
u/Nagype
after watching the
Cosmic Ink
Market wondering if there are cartels of bots controlling the market?
Hey Everyone,
Anyone watching closely the Cosmic Ink markets in EU during reset day?
If you do, I guess you know about those guys how immediately drop the price from 199.99g to 129.99g with a wall of 500 pieces of Cosmic Ink at 5-10g differences in a descending order in like 5 minutes. No undercutting or price action was going on for hours now at the market, someone reset the price to 199.99g and they immeditely started doing this. Who are they?
Whilst an interesting idea, anything on the Region Wide Auction House is going to be subject to the masses of people in one place. You are going to see what might be "odd" behaviour, but it is unlikely to be a mass effort by a select few trying to control a market.
There are a lot of possibilities, honestly. While there are "cartels" and "AH Bots", those are more boogeymen. Most of it comes from the fact that the new profession system and region-wide AH forces a focus on volume sales at rock bottom prices. It could be anything. Someone who took the time to make or buy the inks at a price they're willing to go low on, someone who got a great deal on materials, someone who doesn't see a future in the market and is trying to divest and doesn't want to take a year to do it, someone tired of the same AH games and willing to push the price stupid low just to get out of the market.... There are a lot of options, and each is as likely as the last, especially this late in the season, and with season 4 being a wildcard.
It's worth looking on
undermine.exchange
for any item or market you are interested in. There are always natural flows during the course of a week and over the course of an expansion..
Courtesy of
undermine.exchange
From looking at the heatmap, you can see some natural lows and highs based around typical peaks and troughs of play - weekends and around reset day.
Overall, the price will trend downward unless there are any particular game changes or information that might change demand and supply.
Courtesy of
undermine.exchange
We do have what I would call cartels, yeah. It's a risky and difficult thing to do, because it involves having a pretty iron control of the market. It's easier to do on server-side markets rather than region-wide markets, and usually requires a truly stupid amount of capital so that you can control the market with constant resets to push the price higher, or, by constantly pushing the price lower so that you will consistently hold higher market share. It's something that really requires multiple people doing multiple different jobs, watching different markets, one controlling your posting, one controlling purchasing, sometimes some controlling crafting or farming. Trying to control pricing on any given item is far more difficult than you'd imagine.
It has obvious disadvantages, though, and usually fails over time, if not pretty quickly, for the same reason it does in real life (Outside of government intervention.) You can't really control the prices by buying people out and relisting in most markets, because you can't stop people from simply putting up more and continuing to undercut you. As vigilant as you might be, it will slip through the cracks, and the damn will burst, especially with finite cash reserves, which becomes more and more risky as you try to control the market.
You also can't simply keep bellow a profitable rate to force other people in the market out- that works for a while, but it's mostly impossible to stop people from breaking that, because that loses you money hard too- and even if you think you can manage that, frustrating too many players in the market can force people to liquidate bellow costs, forcing you to either go lower, or buy their supply, or wait (which kind of negates the point).
That doesn't stop people from forming cartels altogether. I've spoken to groups of plays who work in concert to try and control the market like that. Most don't stick with it, because it's more difficult than you'd imagine it would be to do. I did it myself once, accidentally, by encouraging some guildies to get into a market. We would sometimes be so active in posting in a specific market that was server-side, our guild would literally control the market within reason for significant amounts of time. We weren't really trying to do that, it sorta just happened, and between other people entering the market and prices changing on some goods, to say nothing of long-term boredom, that stranglehold fails.
That said, it is still possible to try to "reset" a market if you (or several of you) have enough cash to do so. Look at
Azureweave Bolt
..
Courtesy of
undermine.exchange
That has had a couple of resets these past 2 weeks on EU in an attempt to push the price higher. The first reset would've cost about 2 million gold. According to my TSM data, there's about 2,300 sold per day, so this could quite feasibly be one individual willing to risk money to push the price higher and make about half a million profit (based on 5,000 selling for 100g higher than purchase price).
Of course, this kind of thing was much easier and more manageable when servers had their own self contained economy.
Rare Drop Farms
This is a great time of the expansion for collectors and farmers alike. They feed each other in filling out one of the less competitive areas of WoW - Collecting Stuff!
Sometimes I miss the old days of grinding down tons of mobs for that potential for a rare drop that could make a good amount of money. Are there any things left like this in retail wow? Is there anywhere I can find high value transmogs or recipes and what not to farm? Just looking for some brainless stuff to do on my wfh days. Thanks!
There are lots and lots of possibilities here, both dungeon runs and unique spawns around the world.
Off the top of my head, you got the world drop mounts in BFA, dune scavenger m/terrified mule pack/ bloodfeaster and goldenmane. You can farm 20x abyss crystal for the blood serpent. You also got the honeyback harvester mount if you're alliance. Although this one is bop while the other ones are Boe and therefore tradable
Varruth's Guillotine sells very good, and "easy to farm".
Old dungeons are easy and sell quite alot, usuall 2-3 hours of farming a week can bring in a easy 10-30k a day without really trying. I've made some videos on it. Im about to post an updated one as well on a new farm.
https://youtu.be/QODRjBSx-Vo
In fact, there are a plethora of farming guides over on YouTube. One that particularly caught my eye this week was from
Extracify
..
What's particularly good about this video is that is focuses on quick "login/logout" type check for rare spawns as well as quick dungeons.
Instance / Rares Addons
If you are looking to run instances or hunt for rare mobs, there are a few addons which will help track and manage that information...
LootAppraiser
LootAppraiser
is great for tracking money earned (potential value) of items while running a dungeon multiple times.
It also has a handy Reset Instance button for fast return to a fresh set of trash mobs.
Nova
Nova Instance Tracker
can track how many times you have run an instance and what lockouts are available over a number of alts.
It's also good for keeping an eye on average xp earned if you are running dungeons for levelling.
Rarity
Rarity
is good for tracking how many times you have killed a rare in order to get certain items/mounts to drop.
RareScanner
RareScanner
is great for alerting you to when a Rare spawns near you and where they are on a map..
These are but a few of the useful ones that make running instances and hunting rares easier.
What are your favourite addons for instances and rares?
Open World Gold Farms for Season of Discovery
Seren Games
continues her great YouTube content covering Season of Discovery with a bunch of paces to farm gold in the open world..
These are great ideas for bumping up your gold reserves and some great drops that sell well.
Further Reading
Most of this information was discussed and originally posted on the
/r/woweconomy
subreddit or in the accompanying
Discord Server
.
I hope you found this useful and If you have any suggestions or feedback, please do say so in the comments below..
Until next time, Happy Goldmaking!
Samadan
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