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评论来自
797
I got this mace for my shaman today, looks wicked, does some nice damage, look out for the cc-breaking-tastic "on hit". Don't use this near CC-ed mobs or neutral ones...
评论来自
Cromanomaly
5% proc chance.
评论来自
1171
Proc effect has a thunderclap animation. It makes the weapon a mini-thunderfury. :)
评论来自
39615
any idea on threat gen from the proc?
评论来自
41820
Woot Mini Thunderfury! yeah!
评论来自
Thottbot
This is a good weapon if you are a combat rogue, or if you have a weapon switching macro.
评论来自
Thottbot
stacks with thunderclap?
评论来自
Thottbot
A protection specced warrior or paladin will benefit most from
Hand of Antu'sul
. Its AoE damage helps to generate aggro against multiple targets, while the AoE slowing effect helps to mitigate damage. Both threat generation and damage mitigation are essential to good tanking.
The downside is that its base DPS is somewhat low compared to other blue one-handers of this level. Single-target tanking is better done with a different weapon.
评论来自
Thottbot
Does anyone know if +Nature damage applies to this weapon? Because if it did, then it would be great for a Shammy with some +Nature damage gear.
评论来自
Thottbot
I sometimes find it funny how these turn into a winefest over which class the item is best for.
I can tell you, this is NOT a druid weapon; Druids in bear or cat form (the only time they should be in melee or at least the only time they should care what their melee damage is) don't get weapon procs and don't benefit from a weapon's dam/del so they should be looking for weapons with loads of stats instead.
I can tell you this is NOT a hunter weapon; Again since they mainly range attack their weapon(s) are stat slots first and dps/procs come second. If you are a hunter then you are not allowed to disagree with this until you go back and delete all your pro-hunter posts for lvl 40+ leather/cloth items.
If you have ever played the role of "tank" then go up and read Stefania's comments on the subject. If you are a "squishy" (priest/lok/mage) then shame on you for even looking this weapon up!
If you are a Rogue or Shaman the ONLY times this is useful is solo or escorting lowbies, otherwise it's too much AE hate for non-tanks. Coincidently I was wondering what would help a rogue when escorting lowbies and in an unrelated search found this.
If I ever see this drop in ZF on my rogue I will only roll for it if no warriors or paladins are interested, all of you are free to agree with my opinion or piss off your group, it's your decision.
评论来自
Thottbot
kollins.... u fergot to mention a big reason in why this is not a hunter weapon. you said how they mainly do range attacks but you left out how they cant even use maces so no one should be saying this is a hunter wep.
评论来自
Thottbot
i got this last night on my 43 Warrior and it is a great weapon for tanking and goes well with my green tower however i think it would also make a good shammy weapon (the proc can get annoying as it breaks polymorph and sap etc)
评论来自
Thottbot
Dropped last night... this will only last me one level, because I realised I hate 1 handed weapons. I'm level 44, and I have Blanchard's Stout, which I can use in 1 level. =D
评论来自
Thottbot
I want this for my priest...
Now.. FIGHT FOR MY AMUSEMENT!
Because I am totally serious.
评论来自
Thottbot
haha, funniest thing happend 2 me couple days ago. I was runnin zf wit my guildies and then this drops. since im a rogue and i have phantom blade in my main hand i passed it. then this stupid hunter needs the mace.....:(.(hmmm whats wrong wit that picture)ne ways my pally friend got mad so he booted him.
评论来自
Thottbot
Yeah, you could tank with it, but I always prefered a fast weap when I tanked (your main ability to maintain aggro is a smart use of taunt followed up by a sunder, but also if you need to get a hit in a fast hit usually outweighs a slightly bigger hit timed later)....and if you are counting on a proc to maintain aggro, you aren't much of a tank.
It's prolly the best combat rogue weap at that level, or one of the best.
If I was running with my guild, where the weap goes to the one that can make the most use of it, I'd say it would make a much bigger impact on a combat rogue than any other class, due to the slow weap speed. I'd pass on it if I was playing a warr in favor of a rogue, thats for sure. That's not to say a warrior couldn't tank with it, but it's not really an optimum tanking weap.
评论来自
Thottbot
Ever occured to you that a warrior isn't tanking all the time? Have you ever seen a warrior solo grind or do PVP with a sword and shield? A warrior have use for this weapon. You're right it's not good for tanking, but everyone who's ever played a warrior above lvl 20 knows that you should have multiple weapons and armours. One set for tanking, another set for doing PvP or grinding. I'd take this weapon over a paladin or rogue any day.
评论来自
Thottbot
Never had or seen the weapon in game, but I like the look of the graphic. It looks like a little totem.
评论来自
Thottbot
Does it have a chain lightning bolt shoot out from it like thunderfury's proc, or is it like a wairrors thunderclamp?
评论来自
Thottbot
hunters cant use maces :P
评论来自
Thottbot
This Mace is very good. It rivals a few other weapons out there in the same level range (Ripsaw, Phantom Blade being main ones) which are easily attainable.
I've used all 3, and you may have noticed all 3 of these weapons are main hand. To be honest i'm not much of a MH switcher, so i decide on which weapon is the best all-rounder and stick with it. I'd switch MH if i had to though.
The proc on this weapon is like a mini-Thunderclap. Wait, it's actually better than Thunderclap. Does less damage sure, but slows the opponents attacks by -1% more. Not much, but still more. Phantom Blade does a -100armor and makes target unable to stealth/invisible. The -100armor is a useful debuff, the other debuff not so much outside of PvP. Ripsaw 75dmg would is nice too. The Hand of Antu'sul and Ripsaw i see as even.
As i'm a Warrior this weapon is pretty useful for when i am in Defensive stance and can't switch to Battle stance to Thunderclap too often. Also you might say that this weapon is too slow for tanking, and it is kind of, but i'm Fury spec and crit a lot so my attack speed lowers due to Flurry (25% AS increase) so it goes from 2.7 seconds to 2 seconds, which is in the preferred swing time for a tank weapon (1.9-2.2spd).
The downside is that this weapons proc rate is about 3-7% of proc'ing per swing. Totally random. It will probably proc on the worst time too (breaking CC'd mobs). Also, when the proc does occur, is has the same graphic as the Warrior's 'Thunderclap' ability.
Still this weapon is very good for anyone who can use it (melee priority, sorry Mr. Moonkin/Priest guy). I'd say, after Warrior, that this thing is the best worn in the hands of a Shaman, then Paladin but it doesn't really matter.
Another little reason why i like this weapon is because it's like a miniature Thunderfury :)
So in conclusion on which of the 3 above mentioned weapons i'd pick:
1. Phantom Blade
2. Ripsaw/Hand of Antu'sul (which ever one you get your hands on first, of course if you're a Rogue/Hunter you won't have to decide which to take because your class can only use one or the other).
Ciao!
评论来自
Thottbot
Saw earlier comments that htis is no use for Druids. But I have specced for Moonkin form, and lots of melee there. So I hope it will be good for me, 'cause I just got it!
评论来自
Thottbot
this weapon is great for enhancement shamans and the proc is very good, cause most of the time u do quests alone and stuff, u dont lvl only doing insts.
the proc is great for pvp
评论来自
Thottbot
I got this, and put Enchant: Fiery Blaze on it from the badlands. As a Solo DW Enhancement shaman, I can say that both of them proc A LOT, and add a lot of cool aoe effects around me(3yds)....its fun
not good for instances.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I am Tauren and with this mace, and Aegis of the scarlet commander ill have the best look ever!
评论来自
Allakhazam
I want this on my gnome rogue.
I'm gonna laugh if it's the same size as him. /cackle
评论来自
Allakhazam
if the proc didnt' do the worthless 7 dmg this would be a good mace, the aoe wouldn't break your stuns or polys or anything, the 7 dmg kinda makes it gay though. im a mace spec rogue and use it for now cuz the dmg is better than what i had before but when doing dungeons i usually have to use something else
评论来自
Allakhazam
The Hand of Antu'sul
Chance On Hit: Blasts nearby enemies with thunder
increasing the time between their attacks by 11% for 10 seconds
and doing 7 Nature damage to them. Will affect up to 4 targets.
Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker
Chance On Hit: Blasts your enemy with lightning, dealing 300 Nature damage and then jumping to additional nearby enemies. Each jump reduces that victim's Nature resistance by 25. Affects 5 targets.
Your primary target is also consumed by a cyclone, slowing its attack speed by 20% for 12 seconds.
OMG, its mini-Thunderfury! :p
Its even better, it slows down up to 4 targets vs. thunderfurys 1 target.
Same-ish dps as my other blue 1 handers too.
Im so getting this for my level 45 warrior :D
Edited, Nov 14th 2006 at 2:45pm PST by Hoaas
评论来自
Allakhazam
I just got this on my lvl 45 HUMAN warrior. I was in a group with a dwarf rogue, a NE druid, a NE hunter, and a gnome mage. Since I am protection spec'd, and had the mace spec ratial trait, I needed it, but before I did I asked the group about needing it, and the only person who didn't want me to need was the mage. I ended up winning it because I was the only one who needed. Then the leader, the mage, yells at me for needing it because other people wanted it, but not needed it. I told him I would make better use of it then anybody else and would use it to tank. He eventually went on to say that anybody else could make better use of it. Eventually, when all was said and done, the group disbanded.
Edited, Nov 29th 2006 9:52pm by omfguatemycorn
Edited, Nov 29th 2006 9:52pm by omfguatemycorn
评论来自
Allakhazam
The damage is nice and as long as your hitting huge SSs then the proc shouldn't really matter.
评论来自
Allakhazam
How often does the effect happen?
Also, Paladins can't use daggers so this has some value for them.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This weapon isn't meant for anything other than tanking in PvE. Proc weapons on classes with stuns that break from damage are horrible. This weapon's great for tanking and not even worth rolling for if you don't plan on using it for that.
评论来自
Allakhazam
that thing just looks awesome! \m/>_<\m/!
评论来自
Allakhazam
kind of useless inless you want a decently dmged 1h with aoe. but if you don't care about its dmg, and just want aoe proc, i don't see any reason to get this over toxic revenger from gnomer. why proc 7 dmg to 4 targets, when you can proc 15, to ALL targets?
剧毒复仇者
even if dagger proc only hits 4 targets, 4x15 is higher then 4x7. its also a dagger, meaning you can still backstap/ambush for higher dmg, as opposed to sinister strike. then there is the fact that toxic is MUCH easier to get. most zf groups want to skip antu, fallout boss in gnomer however, you can probabaly just solo at this point.(enter front door, jump down, clear few mobs or wait for right time to pull. pull, kill, repeat till it drops) if you missed the dagger, just go back and get it.
as for the 10%slow add on, its just aggro magnet, which us rogues would rather be without. only class's id recommend this for is maybe a paladin or shaman. rogue is better off with toxic, and warrior can just cast thunder clap themself. druids won't melee enough outside of shapeshift to get much use either. since it only affects 4 targets, it should do alot more then only 7 dmg, in my opinion, maybe 20. inless they buff this up or downgrade the toxic, i don't know why anyone troubles themself getting this mace.(any class can use a dagger)
评论来自
Allakhazam
This could be good for hemo / combat rogue imo :).
评论来自
Allakhazam
use it on my shaman. great for pvp! frost shock and the thunder clap is awesome!
评论来自
Allakhazam
I am Tauren and with this mace, and Aegis of the scarlet commander ill have the best look ever!
评论来自
Allakhazam
The proc on this weapon can be annoying. I picked it up as a mace spec rogue and I couldn't use it. It is an AE and it breaks all forms of rogue stun.
But i do agree its very nice looking. On a troll its HUGE as well, ther eis some satisfaction to be had there.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have this equipt on my priest
Along with Firey. when i run to low on mana. this is just the thing i need to survive, the Fiery does more damage than my swings "little pipe priest arms" But that thunder clap gives my just enough time to reup some mana for a scream. so i can bandage and go back at it.
评论来自
dnl101
Not sure whether this is intended or not but it triggers a hidden cooldown on thunderclap. So if you charge in, auto and the auto triggers the weapon proc, you can't use thunderclap for 4 secs even though it's not displaying a cooldown. This is somewhat annoying as the weapon proc creates far less threat than the actual thunderclap.
评论来自
Gints
Does weapon chance hit work if You enchant Fiery Blaze Enchantment
(Fiery Blaze Enchantment
Item Level 45
Binds when picked up
Enchants a weapon to have a 15% chance to inflict 9 to 13 Fire damage to all enemies within 3 yards.)
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