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Herod's shoulder is an excellent shoulder for a level 37-40 warrior and/or paladin. It is quite a bit of armor for this level and the stats will improve your damage and health, but remember, this is only mail so it would probably be best to upgrade to a plate shoulder after level 40.
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Thottbot
Herod is in the instance behind the locked door on the right hand side.
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok, heres a pic of Herods shoulder + raging berzerkers helm + scarlet leggings
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/trunky/herod.png
评论来自
Thottbot
nice job rolling on the shoulders twice $%^&*! bag
评论来自
Thottbot
Got it in my first complete Armory run, first and second time we got whiped.
A hunter and a shammy were rolling for it, i'm a warrior and planning to play allot of WSG and AB, when i'm lvl 39 so that was my reason, after that run I won the helmet, and the hunter and Shammy and another warrior didnt even roll, such nice guys the russians :).
Anyway, good luck to you all who still didnt got it.
评论来自
Thottbot
people don't freak out, yeah i have also done SM quite a couple of times and the one time the shoulder dropped, a 42 hunter rolled 99 for it. So what. He has the right to need it since he wears mail. And don't forget, this is just a game don't freak out for nothing, eventually the shoulder will drop. I wish you all a good time on WoW. See ya in game. :)
评论来自
Thottbot
But for those Warriors that decide to do 30-39 BGs, the full Scarlet set with Herod's Shoulder as well as the Raging Berserker's Helm are excellent. The Scarlet set gives out Strength and Stamina, as well as Agility. Warriors need the stamina for tanking, the strength for damage, and the agility for crits. We've worn mail this long, why not a little longer? ^.^
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got it 1st run, but his children/followers overwhelmed us for some reason....
评论来自
Allakhazam
The skeletal shoulders got 3 more armor :-)
exept for that, it's pretty much the same...
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm gonna do an armory run today... appropriate for a 34 hunter to roll need on this?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH SCARLET MONESTARY (i'm a lvl 36 fury spec warrior) FOR OVER 2 MONTHS NOW! I HAVE GOTEN COUNTLESS WALKTHROUGHS SINCE ALL THE HUNTERS WANT THE SCARLET GEAR FOR 40 AND ONLY THE THE STUFF I GOT OFF THE AUCTION HOUSE DROPS AND IT'S REALLY ANNOYING WHAT CAN I DO?
评论来自
Allakhazam
i ninja looted this lol my guild members where pissed off at me. well it looks cooler on me then it does them so all of them passed on it so... sorry guildies!
Hilarka
level 38 hunter
<Steel Legion>
Medivh
评论来自
Allakhazam
Truth is, I love 'em, much better than what I was using, and I DID NOT ninja them. I had a 60 lock friend running through for DEs and i tagged along and he let me loot this. The STA is so useful to me its insulting to hear somone tell me this is useless to a hunter. I tank just as well as my pet, allowing me to manage multiple mobs at once (3-4) aswell as seriously tank in PvP. Just after getting these I ran out of SM and annihilated 4 alliance, tanking a pally and 2 mages while my pet made short work of a priest. Truth is, as a beastmaster, having more life than your pet speced for HP and Armour is lethal and totaly awesome.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This shoulder is pretty good but when u hit 40 u might think of getting sumthing else if u hve the money.When ur lvl 45 try Zul Furak for those shoulders.I had a 60 warr in my guild scream at me because i had those equiped at lvl 48 =(
P.S i got my shoulders from ZF at 49 w000t
评论来自
Allakhazam
Definately worth using even if you only use it for 3 levels. This item screams level 39 twink gear. Plus you wont get anything worth using instead untill ZF.
Unless you buy Plate at lvl 40. And IMHO that is the stupidest thing you could ever do with your money, because you know for a fact that you will get something better when you decide to armor up for lvl 49 battlegrounds
评论来自
Allakhazam
Same as Skeletal shoulders, except they don't look as cool imo
评论来自
Allakhazam
just to keep it clear, str doesnt help hunters. these shoulders are deffinately warrior/paladin prio since they need the stamina
评论来自
Allakhazam
the skeletal shoulders have the same exact stats as this
评论来自
Allakhazam
4 realls if ur getting so pissed off i mean after 10 runs or watever u guys are doing just get the dam skeletan shoulders and they have 3 WHOLE MORE ARMER POINTS OMFG! lol nah but by the time u do 10 armory runs u wulda had 15-20g for skeletan shoulders
评论来自
Allakhazam
Man! I've killed Herod 7 times with my guild, I'm a lv 37 warrior, been killing him since level 35 with the guild...
Trying to get this bugger.. so far had 5 helmets drop, 1 axe, and 1 leggings.... I have helmet equipped.. Axe I didnt want, other helmets were given out, and leggings I have for next level..
This has dropped 0/7 ... leggings 1/7 ... axe 1/7 and Helmet 5/7 ... its crazy..
I hate Herod lol
评论来自
Allakhazam
A LVL 32 HUNTER just rolled need on these and won. I (level 37 Paladin) have never been so angry.
Edited, Sat May 27 09:17:14 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
If any hunters EVER want these shoulders for the Stats your a noob and if you want it to show off your a even bigger noob. These shoulders can be used for all classes exept for 4; Hunter, Priest, Warlock, Mage. Now hunters do NOT get this item unless you are tanking which you SHOULDNT!
评论来自
Allakhazam
just to keep it clear, str doesnt help hunters. these shoulders are deffinately warrior/paladin prio since they need the stamina
评论来自
Allakhazam
Needs more shoulder in the pic and less human, ego.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm not sure why so many people are trashing hunters for wanting this item. Hunter's also need health/stamina and armor. Regardless of how sexy the item looks, a hunters stats effect the stats of their pet. Also, if you're heavily involved with PvP, you'll want health/stamina/armor. There aren't many pieces of mail that have good agi stats at lv 40 and agi can easily be made up for on other pieces of gear. For example, right now (lv 56) my stamina line in the character pane states "Increases your pet's Stamina by 73" and armor shows "Increases your pet's Armor by 807." Now I'm not saying a hunter should ever attempt to lot on this against a war or pally, but just because you see a hunter wearing this, don't assume they ninja'd it off a more deserving class. My friends and I made special runs until everyone who wanted it, had it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
That is not a human mind you.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i done SM 5times now and i never get this, it has dropped kinda 4/5 times, i rolled everytime, lost everytime.
and its BoA
oh well, just some more runs and then i will have it...
评论来自
Allakhazam
These just dropped for me on my SM run, I chose need for them but lost them to a pally who was DC throughout 25% of the run, I hate losing good warrior equipment to pallies and hunters who really don't need it as much.
评论来自
Allakhazam
what lvl would a rouge be able solo him im 46 now and can already easily do graveyard and library but i need to farm small radiants for chanting
评论来自
Allakhazam
god dam, 12 herod runs now, and now shoulders i get the helm drop every single time, i really want the shoulders im getting so flustered
评论来自
Allakhazam
On a warrior, it's pretty pointless getting these considering you can wear plate in 3 lvls.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got this of my second run with SM. First run someone else got lucky then me ^_^
Level 38 Paladin and using it now :)
(It does look a bit big on me lol)
评论来自
Allakhazam
My friend ran me through Monastary and armoury just then, first time arm got helm off herod, first time monastary got scarlet leggings, second time arm got herod' shoulders, and since he is lvl 60 rogue....im one damn happy warrior :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hunters only Roll on this sholder and the scarlet stuff because its blue, well most of it is. its prolly better given to a Warrior (even tho theyll out grow it Fast) or given to a enhacement sham, mebby a ret pally also but like warriors thell out grow it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
评论来自
Allakhazam
still dont have em and most sm runs i do sumhow change from armory to cath... and one time two f***ers asked me to give them leadership to invite then decided to do ZF and kicked me out. They stole all my party members which took forever to get cuz not much ppl did instances at that time.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I want to get this for my 40 hunter, should I? Or are there better shoulders for a hunter.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have his helmet, and his shoulder, I just need his pants and I can be mini-Herod. :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
HEROD ONLY DROPS HIS SHOULDERS I WANT THE FREAKING RAVAGER! OMG!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ok....if your a hunter and needed this.......my goodness go to church! This has all war/pally stats.....ONLY ppl that should roll are enh shammies(str stam ACTUALLY USEFUL) or a pally/warrior that definetly cant afford plate....Hunters ninja this like donald trump and miss u.s.a.s i mean COME ON its really not worth ninjaing..
评论来自
Allakhazam
wow it allmosts is tempting to buy it in AH....but id rather save up for my mount....it's kinda useless basically...
评论来自
Allakhazam
10 runs and no shoulders yet :(
when I have them, will set a Pic here ^^
评论来自
Allakhazam
I ran SM 4 times last night and they i got the full set from herod.I cannot wait until level 40 so i can wear the stuff
Edited, Tue Oct 11 14:40:38 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
lucky to get ran through at 34 by my mate, first time to kill herod and it dropped
Edited, Sat Apr 1 00:12:17 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
(First of all, I'm a hunter)
I just wanna say that I don't want this thing because the stats are good, or because.. Well something like that. I want this damn shoulderpad simply because of one reason:
IT LOOKS FREAKING SEXY!
So if you're a warrior,pala, WHATEVER! I don't care, cause I'm going to ninja this(even though I'm justified to need) because I wanna look hot. End of discussion.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ive been trying for this drop for about 3 weeks on my enhancment shaman is there any way that makes it drop a little more often?
评论来自
Allakhazam
WHedre is herod? Cath? Armor? SM ?
评论来自
Allakhazam
i have done 7 runs for this and always dropped the helm and 3 times ravager... man im unlucky (but no scarlet leggings!)
评论来自
Allakhazam
To everyone saying that warriors can wear plate in 3 levels, very good, they can, BUT comparable shoulder Like
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?source=live;witem=10209
or
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?source=live;witem=10092
Cant even be used til level 42/45 and since most people have little money as it is at that level anyway unless they drop, the first thing you would go for is
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?source=live;witem=9476
Which drop in ZF at level 45.
Just because we can wear plate at that level, there needs to be good drops so that you swap out the gear in the first place. I used mine til I was level 45.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I've followed this discussion and must say, you hunters are noobs not knowing what your stats are.
Secondly, I've just been outrolled by a ninja hunter myself and just like Eowol, I felt really angry.
As a hunter, you might say (just like that ninja) that we can use plate at 40, but as a warrior, the first good plate shoulders drop in ZF, and as a tank can't be low lvl if he's going to tank, you'll have to wait 8 lvls to get anything better (considering you go ZF at 44 and get them at 45), that's why we need them: they are pure tanking shoulders! and this is why:
-Stamina: this is the main stat for every tank, keeps you alive and makes it easy for the healer to heal you since you don't die so fast
-strength: this is the second most important stat to warriors, because, since the new patch (or maybe earlier), we get block rating from Strength, which is a very important thing as a warrior
Now, this is why you ninja hunters DO NOT need this item:
-15 stamina: As a hunter, you don't need any health bonusses. If you're alone, your pet tanks, if you're in a group, the warrior / druid tanks, or if you don't manage to get a decent tank, your pet can tank anyway. Now, some of you hunters claim to be "melee" hunters? that's just stupid, since you don't have any good melee abilities, just Raptor and Mongoose, and if you DO get agro, you do a wingclip (about 60% movement imparesing) and run away, and by the time you're far enough off to shoot again, you won't have agro anymore. If you got a bad tank that just bothers with one target, kick him, leave the group, find anohter or tell him to learn 2 play.
- 6 Strength. Again hunters don't profit from this stat a lot. Firstly, if you again claim to be a melee hunter, 6 strength will give you +0.5 DPS for 6 seconds as by that time your agro will be taken away, maybe a little longer, but 6 strength really ain't that much. In ranged, 0.5 strength is nice, but you REALLY don't need stength above either a warrior, paladin, rogue or even a feral druid.
You must also realize that as a hunter, you'll first have to lvl 3 lvls up to 40 to even be able to use it, and then after 3 lvls you go and ask a leatherworker if he can craft Though Scorpid Shoulders for you (mail, 10 agility, 10 spirit).
This means that a warrior will use this shoulder as a very good thing for 7-9 lvls, and you hunters use this as a show-off, not needing it except for the +0.5 DPS, for only 3 lvls!
Again I tell you that it's a pure tanking shoulder, having 15 stamina (main tanking stat) and 6 str (second or third tanking stat). Paladins also need this, but in a good guild with DPK and no noobs, the warrior will offer more DPK than the pala will be prepared to.
Feel free to reply to me that you agree to me and that all hunters must die (your words, not mine), and if you, being a hunter, disagree, I'd like to hear what you have to say so I can understand where the mistakes are that you make.
评论来自
Allakhazam
got three pieces from the scarlet set and all drops from herod.. includnig ravager.. i look like herod :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
First kill, dropped this. Kinda wanted the helm, but I guess I can go back.
评论来自
Allakhazam
You know what, complaining and whining will not do any good. It drives me nuts to hear it and its my only problem with the game. Regardless of what the stats are, (my main is a hunter btw) the point is put yourself in the other guys shoes. Most of the whining comes from either -A- a teenager who plays when mommy lets them, or -B- someone with no life. The point is, its still a boss drop and yes, the hunter in the group should be aware of who is with them and let whoever NEEDS the shoulders have them. If not, they are selfish....move on get over it and don't group with them again if you have a problem. Not like there are millions of players out there to group with. And just for the record, everyone should be clear about boss drops before going through the instance, and not argue like children. GEEZ....and one more note....depending on how the run goes, if no other blues drop, and the hunter says they want them...how do you know what their trade is? THE HUNTER MIGHT BE AN ENCHANTER AND WANT TO DISENCHANT THE BLUE DROP. My God, stop WHINING! Play the game to have fun....you will not lose sleep over a missed boss drop, and if you do call a therapist.
评论来自
Traoth
(retail) Should be noted that Herod and these shoulders no longer exist, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I just went over to SM and couldn't enter Armory. Maybe I was doing something wrong but I don't believe you can get these any longer :(
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