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评论来自
4289
Love it for my DW Fury warrior.
One of the best weapons for DPS warrior until you can get something from deep inside BWL.
Especialy the 6 weapon skill the set bonus it gives is very valuable, Don't underestimate it. It's basically simulating that you are level 61.2 instead of 60 when fighting lvl60 mobs.
Also got crusader on both for not only gain HP but also DPS.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7487821963414107790&q=dw
fury
评论来自
871
This is also pretty good for hunter, especially then when your guild's melee DPS doesn't want it anymore because of can have much better swords from BWL, AQ40 and Naxx.
I'm at the moment wearing this and Core Hound Tooth on my hunter, but still trying to get Silithid Claw from Sartura and Fang of the Faceless from Hakkar, because they're slightly better. Ofc they're only micro-upgrade as in together they would only give +10 AP more, but it is still something. ;)
评论来自
5474
For Hunters this can be replaced in AQ40 with Silithid Claw which is only 2 ap extra. Hatchet of Sundered Bone from Naxx is one-hand so could replace your warblade or whatever you off-hand is.
评论来自
4956
This weapon for rogues is 100% terrible if you plan on actively using sinister strike or hemo as a portition of your damage. The base and high end damage make it absolutely terrible for instant attacks in general. The speed kills any hope for hemorrage damage as hemorrage isn't normalized.
评论来自
Xeenon
While hunters should have priority on the mainhand sword, with a speed combat build and some talents that improves poisons this set is absolutely destructive for a PvP rogue playing with a decent team.
评论来自
TheDood
Depending on your playstyle, this can be one of the best MH weapons you can get for a fury DW warrior. For PvE it isn't too great, a slow speed means your HS will hit for more, and that is crucial as you, in plate, will be topping the aggro charts just below the the MT, so those silly rogues or clothies wont be taking any. For PvP, it some like a slower MH for HS crits and overpowers but a faster speed is vastly different playstyle which I have been meaning to experiment with.
评论来自
7343
It depends on your ability's to play. I got both a 60 warrior and hunter and a rogue as well. This is surely a great MH for a hunter
28 AP = +/- 28 agility for a hunter, And the 1 % crit is pretty nice as well. For a fury DW warrior it is a bit slow for a Main hand, if you are a fury warrior you should try to get the off hand from the set, and
https://www.cuckhead.com/classic/item=17068
(Deathbringer) that's a very nice combo imo. For rogues it's pretty nice but I would prefer Brutality blade in main hand because the stats are a bit better, and so is the DPS. If you are not in MC the Warblade of Hakkari is a very nice main hand. And of course if you can get the offhand it's a very big +++. Hunters and Rogues should get prio on this weapon, fury warriors should go for another weapon like
https://www.cuckhead.com/classic/item=19103
(Frostbite) (Horde) Same stats but a mace if you are alliance. If your guild killed Onyxia Deathbringer would be better, but Frostbite is pretty solid and cool until you are in MC/Onyxia with your guild.
评论来自
7359
I fail to see why rogues and hunters would get priority, the MH is extremely fast, got tons of ap, crit, and the +swords is just godly.
its a warrior weapon as much as it is anyone elses.
评论来自
7543
Rogues are the worst possible class to get this item, if I see this weapon in the hands of anyone besides a warrior or hunter, it automatically tells me that they are a horrible player and know almost nothing about the mechanics of their class. My original main is a rogue with almost 100 days /played with every spec imaginable, and even the heaviest combat build is reliant on a large percentage of SS damage, which a 1.7 speed weapon would totally gimp.
I'm serious, please uninstall wow right now and go back to playing hello kitty island adventure.
评论来自
7700
Amazing fury warrior weapon set. High end damage doesn't matter for a fury warrior because they are based on low amounts of burst damage.
评论来自
7735
Before normalization this would probably not be too good for a rogue, but now since attack power is normalized, you will still do fine with it, even if you sinister strikes wont be quite as big.
评论来自
7833
I think the set was designed more for hunters than anything...Survival hunters that is. For Rogues still weilding a Heartseeker or Lobotomizer it would be a decent upgrade as well with the right enchants placed on it. But I honestly have only ever seen hunters use the set and ver few if any Rogues and Warriors.
评论来自
8976
Jesyr77, The hakkari warblade main hand isn't "very good" for a rogue thats true, but stop acting like that. You can take a look at wowloot.com it's 3 stars for a rogue, so it isn't terrible. Yes there are better available weapons than this, but it's fine.
评论来自
Thottbot
The main hand's speed is also 1.7, which a rogue would never go for.
That leaves hunter and fury warrior.
I'd personally rather be the owner of the set (fury warrior) and leave the MC weapon drops to the rogues. As for hunters, this is only a bit better for them than Dal'Rend's, and they wouldn't make use of the set bonus.
评论来自
Thottbot
learn how to spell the class names. ROGUE
评论来自
Thottbot
I�ll ignore the stupid 2-3 last posts and comment on some of the more intelligent further up..
Although speed shouldnt be taken into account with the new instant attack game mechanichs (after 1.8) it doesnt meen a low max dam, high dps sword will be good for a rogues SS damage.
Sinister Strike still does damage according to damage range (high max sword damage = high sinister strike damage) although the speed has been fixed to 2.4 speed after patch 1.8.
For Sinister Strike I believe the formula is:
Weapon damage+((AP/14)*speed+SS bonus
Weapon damage+((AP/14)*2.4)+68
Lets compare Krol to Warblade. (ignoring procs and sword bonuses, etc)
Lets say u have 700AP and "roll" the highest dice number on each sword:
Warblade
...: 110+((700/14)*2.4)+68=
298
non crit
Krol
............: 149+((700/14)*2.4)+68=
337
non crit
Compare those to the old mechanics (1.7)
Warblade
...: 110+((700/14)*1.7)+68=
263
non crit
Krol
............: 149+((700/14)*2.8)+68=
357
non crit
Its clear that Warblade is more potent as a main hand SS weapon after patch, but by my calculations it still doesnt add up to af Krol SS attack.
Pls correct me if im wrong here...
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm an experienced fury warrior. with the right gear fury warrior can do very well in DPS compare to MS warrior and rogues. The problem with fury is that a lot of ppl dont know how to spec it, what to do, and what to wear. Fury gears are very limited as well. In fact half of the best fury gears aren't even epics. This sword is by far, the best Mainhand weapon for an experienced fury warrior. For our mainhand we want a weapon as fast as possible to generate rage and better proc rate, but not a dagger b/c of the new normalize instant attack where daggers only get 1.7 speed of damage from AP, whereas 1h swords and axes get 2.4 speed from AP for our overpower and execute. By far, this is the best 1h sword/axe available to us, so for a hunter to roll for this over a fury warrior in their guild just so he can put an extra 15agility at the cost of perhaps the best weapon for the fury warrior makes me sick to my stomach. If i were the leader of the guild i'd make sure the hunter understand this, and if he doesnt i'd ask him politely to leave the guild.
评论来自
Thottbot
The offhand is great for any rogue because the ap bonus. But, these swords would work fine for a sword specced combat rogue also. Even though your SS would be a bit soft you'd get a huge bonus from flat % based procs. IIP procs 30% for 130 damage, sword spec 6% for extra attack, HoJ 2% for extra attack. The speed will help proc those and make up for the yellow damage.
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok, first off lemme say I'm a Rogue, and I use swords in PvE for the sustained DPS and daggers in PvP for the burst dps.
Anyone that says I would "roll" for this item is a retard because you don't roll in ZG, and those people should be disregarded.
I can see how it would be easy to think this is a rogue set, but it's reallyl not that good for rogues. Sure you'll proc poison more often, or maybe get your extra swing more frequently, but the white damage on this is negigable and if you were going for that stuff a dagger with windfury would do the same white damage, probably more poison procs dual wielding daggers than this set. I'd take Dal'Rend's over these, because honestly I lose damage in a long fight because my SS hits are MUCH lower.
Now, technically this would be a great weapon for a fury warrior in PvP, but in my guild, since we just started doing ZG and MC, we make PvE items a priority over PvP items. Meaning if you wanted a sword or item purely for PvP, you wouldn't get it if someone else could use it for PvE. So we'd give these to our hunters. Hunters do melee in some fights, especially against the spider boss because you gotta stay close to the spider, and also because the stats on these babies give the same things it does for rogues: increased crit chance, attack power boost.
Now I'm going to compare this w/ Dal'Rend's Arms.
Dal'Rends: You get 54 AP (4 more ap from 4 str, rogues only get 1 ap per 1 str), +7 defense +100 armor (good if you pull aggro a lot), and +1% crit.
Hakkari: 68 AP, 1% crit, and swords +6.
Hakkari only gives 14 more AP, which is negigable, and the swords +6 is nice, but not enough to make it an ideal rogue set. I cannot stress this enough, Hakkari does MUCH less SS damage, making this a BAD rogue set. Rogues, do the right thing. Give this to your hunter or fury war, they can do a lot more with this than you can.
评论来自
Thottbot
"What would a Hunter do with +6 swords."
Dude, look at any epic Hunter set. They are almost always given worthless set bonuses. The stats are great though from the weapons themself ignoring the set bonus..the normal deal for Hunters.
评论来自
Thottbot
These weapons are not a class weapon it benefits combat rogues any hunter and fury warriors i see no prob if any of those are sought after by those classes plus i mean if those drop its not a roll situation more like a dkp situation so if u have more dkp u deserve it more i dont care if yer a mage i want these for the crit chance attk power +6 to swords doesnt mean crap to me but if i pound +15 agility on both they will be awesome on my hunter those are the only things im going for in zg so i think i got a good chance gettin em im willing to waste all my dkp on them but if a rogue or fury war out dkp's me i wont have a prob and i wont say u noobs i mean how could u say that +6 sword to fury or combat rogue is good +1% crit chance is also good so is attk power if anything these sword or more beneficial to a rogue or fury war lol so quit wasting time saying HUNTER WEAPONx10000000 just start doing zg and get em
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm a combat sword rogue, 20/31/0, and I just got the MH today. The guild I run with has a zero-sum dkp system, and I was like 7th or 8th in line after all the warriors had a shot at it. So to start off I didn't roll over or outbid any fury warriors or anything like that.
I currently have Dal'Rend's, and I've been second-guessing myself over accepting the MH. I crunched some numbers and basically what I came up with was, right now with the Hakkari MH and Dal'Rend's OH I'm in a bad place. I'll do more dps with the set bonus from Dal'Rend's.
But AFTER, if I get that offhand, my dps will skyrocket. I know my Sinister Strikes won't hit as hard. And pre-1.8 this sword would have been a joke. But thanks to the weapon standardization this set has become a viable option for sword rogues. Yeah, if you're running MC or above there's better, MUCH better, and you shouldn't waste your time on this. But I'm not running MC. I'm not even in a ZG-running guild, I just raid with them from time to time.
The white dps from this set beats out the Dal'Rends set; you can't argue that. You get more AP from the two blades, as well as the same amount of crit, and you get a nicer set bonus. And don't forget that extra attack will be proccing more often, as will poisons, since they are static % chances. So the only real question is, does the loss in Sinister Strike damage outweigh the gain in white dps? It does not, when you have both swords. I used a base of 653 AP since that's what I have with my current gear, and I'm assuming you have Sword Specialization maxed out as well as Dual-Wield Specialization. I'm also assuming you have a cheap +4 enchant on your swords. If you can afford better, well, it's not gonna change the results, it will just change the numbers.
White DPS is calculated as (Attack power/14)*weapon speed + weapon dps for mainhand. Multiply this total by .75 for the offhand when you have DW Spec. Add the two together for your total.
The Sinister Strike Damage at level 60 is calculated as Weapon Damage + (Attack Power/14)*2.4 + 73. I did this twice, once assuming you "roll" the lowest possible for that weapon and once for the highest. When I give you a figure for SS dps I averaged the high and low together and divided by 4. I am also assuming you are spamming SS every 4 seconds (40 energy at 20 energy/2 seconds). For easier calculations no finishing moves will be considered, but they all have static damage anyway except SnD which will only increase the white dps.
The total DPS is gonna be your White + your SS dps.
Dal'Rend's Arms add 54 attack power (50 set bonus +4 str on MH). This means you will have 707 AP.
White DPS: 163.9
High Sinister Strike: 349.2
Low Sinister Strike: 279.2
Avg Sinister Strike: 314.2
Sinister Strike DPS: 78.6
Total DPS: 242.5
The Twin Blades of the Hakkari add 68 attack power (28 on MH and 40 on OH). This means you will have 721 AP.
White DPS: 180.0
High Sinister Strike: 310.6
Low Sinister Strike: 259.6
Average Sinister Strike: 285.1
Sinister Strike DPS: 71.3
Total DPS: 251.3
Wielding Warblade of the Hakkari MH and Dal'Rend's Sacred Charge OH gives you 681 AP (28 AP from the MH and nothing from the OH)
White DPS: 169.8
High Sinister Strike: 303.7
Low Sinister Strike: 252.7
Average Sinister Strike: 2782
Sinister Strike DPS: 69.6
Total DPS: 239.4
This of course is before armor. If you really wanna get into it you can calculate the extra attack procs and poison procs but I'm not going to.
As you can see, total dps the Hakkari blades win. However Dal'Rend's comes in second, which means that for now the MH has to go in the bank. If you have Dal'Rend's Main and Hakkari Offhand ... I dunno, this math all gave me enough of a headache so I'll leave it to someone else. I would imagine it would be better than the Dal'Rend's set because you are only losing 10 ap for a better blade. I would guess the Hakkari set would still beat it out but I don't have the numbers to back that up.
评论来自
Thottbot
First... I hate to break it to you guys, but a number of guilds, mine included, do not use DKP for 20 man instances. DKP is only used in MC/BWL for us, so yes, we DO in fact "roll" for items in ZG/AQ20... maybe next time you should have a little more vision before tossing the "n00b" comments out eh?
Secondly, I could see why rogues/fury warriors would want these. I wouldn't argue them rolling on it at all. Yes there are better weapons out there... it's ZG... it's NOT one of the top instances.
The primary reason why a hunter would want these blades has ZERO to do w/ the +6 swords.
w/ +15 agil on both, a hunter would be pulling 128Ranged AP, and 1% to crit. These stats are comperable to many pairs of 1h weapons in MC/BWL for us. In PvP, I'd rather keep a 2h on for the larger raptor crits ect, but in raids we want the most Ranged AP we can get, and the 1% crit is just as helpful.
There are easily better weapons out there for Fury Warriors and Rogues, but OMG they might not have access to those items (especially if thier guild is still using DKP in ZG....think about it)
评论来自
Thottbot
I really feel like there are much better choices for Combat sword rogues out there then the main hand, however, concerning the offhand, the DPS, attack speed, and +ap are incredible for a lowbie combat rogue like me. I would never take the main hand from a fury warrior/ hunter, however, this off hand is a great alternitive if you dont have access to MUCH higer items, or, dont have the dal rends set (i use sword of zeal and this now).
I almost feel that the fast attack speed and major dps would be wasted on a hunter, but, the +40 attack power is godly, so, roll away :D
Moe.
评论来自
Thottbot
tell u what:
this set is one of the best PvE equip u find for a hunter! there is absolutely no doubt about it.
it might even be better than anything that drops in MC - which is the brutality blade and the corehound tooth!
taking the hakkari off and mixing it with the stuff from MC, u will see that the hakkari main is still the better choice for any hunter thue to higher RAP u get from the set!
mixing the MC drops with the main-hand will still give u more benefits than the MC-combo.
brutality and corehound tooth in combination gives a hunter (+15 agi enchant included) 98 RAP and 2,741% to crit. thats 30 RAP less than this set but 1,171% more crit.
i personally prefer the higher RAP for raids since my crit is already pretty high and i hate FD spamming all the time not to take the aggro off of our MTs.
for PvP i'd prefer the MC combination but who is using dualwield in PvP when one is looking for high raptor crits! ;-)
anyway - this set is awesome for a hunter and as mentioned above, the main seems not to be a good choice for rouges. and i do not know any fury-warrior in my guild........
so i got the off-hand and looking hard now to get the main-hand! ;-)
评论来自
Thottbot
You guys are trying to compare things on the flat numbers of the items. You really have to understand how these items will be enchanted to get the full benefit.
Fury Warrior - 15 str on each to maximize Bloodthirst. Or 15 str on off hand and +5 damage on main for more white.
dual 15's = +58 AP main and +70 AP off with 1% crit
15 str/5 dam = +70 off and 52.7 DPS main with +28 AP, 1% crit
Rogue - 15 agi on each or 15 agi off and +5 damage on main.
dual 15's = +58 AP main and +70 AP off with 2.2% crit
15 agi/5 damage = +70 AP off and 52.7 DPS main with +28 AP, 1.75% crit
Hunter - Only option is +15 agi on both
dual 15's = +58 RAP main (+43 melee) and +70 RAP off (+55 melee), 1.55% crit
due to class mechanics I listed them in the order of priority. Furry warriors would get the most sustained DPS out of the set. Rogues are second and hunters are third.
Hunters score third due to the new +25 agi to 2 hand enchant. Look at the total number of AP from the set. It's +68 and 1% crit with 60 added from dual 15's agi enchant. Now look at Barbarous Blade which is +60 AP and 1% crit with 50 added from +25 agi enchant. So that makes a blue almost equal in value to a hunter as this purple set which would be huge upgrades to warriors and hunters. All a hunter gains by getting these 2 purples is 18 AP over an easy to get blue from Dire Maul.
Learn to itemize.
评论来自
Thottbot
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but +6 swords also increases your crit chance and chance to hit.
The formula is simple, 0.04% each skill point.
So the set gives a total of 1.24% crit and 0.24% chance to hit.
评论来自
Thottbot
The off hand is great for a rogue. The main hand is great for a hunter. The set is great for a fury warrior.
The off hand: as a rogue, I have to find 40 agi to get 40 AP. Hunters only need to find 20 AGI to get the same. Every single attack I make will be made with this sword, to a hunter its a stat item.
The main hand: not enough on the top end for a rogue... but for a hunter 1% crit is good, throw in a bit of AP, and the fact that speed and top end don't matter, nice stuff.
Fury warriors however get the best use from the set. +6 swords reduces your chance of 'Glancing Blows', increasing your dps by a significant margin against higher level mobs. Th AP and crit doesn't hurt either, or the insane speed on the main hand.
And to those who think there are soooo many other viable choices out there...
Pre BWL there are exactly FOUR epic sword drops for melee classes. THREE of these have a less than 5% drop rate.
Onyxia has Vis'Kag (4% or so)
AQ 20 has nothing (go figure...)
MC has Brutality (13% or so)
ZG has this set (4-5% on each one)
评论来自
Thottbot
This blade, and the offhand, both drop in ZG. This blade drops off Hakkar (the final boss) and the offhand drops off of Bloodlord Mandokir. I picked this blade up with my hunter a few weeks back, and i love it. I'm really looking forward to getting Fang of the Faceless, as the mainhand hakkari/Fotf is one of the best combos available to hunters pre naxx.
As far as the rogue vs. hunter thing, this weapon could go either way if your guild cannot do MC. If your guild can do MC or BWL, i think this weapon is better for hunters, as the stats are just too good to pass up, and there are far better weapons for rogue damage in MC. The offhand kinda blows for hunters, and should prolly go to rogues or fury warriors in most cases. As a matter of fact, that's how my guild seems to be geared, all of the mainhand blades are on the hunters, and all of the offhands are on the rogues.
oh, and btw..i'm not sure on the specific lvl for ZG, but i have seen 58's or so goin in there, but most guilds wont take you unless you are lvl 60.
评论来自
Thottbot
honestly, these r pretty much the best weapons a hunter can possibly get before barb of the sand reaver, believe it or not. And no, not for pvp as some nub stated above, but for pve. With 2x 15 agi enchants they will give u ~1.5% crit and 112 AP. Tell me, which combo is better?
Some of u may say its better to get agi than ap as a hunter cus of LR. Well, speccing LR before u have ~450-500 unbuffed agi is stupid, as TSA + ranged weapon spec will give u a lot more dmg. And no, u wont have that much agi when ure doing ZG...
All this from a raid perspective ofc, for pvp i'd definitely go for some big 2 hander for those raptor strikes :>
评论来自
Thottbot
This set is great for hunters for the stats. If your guild is running it it's definatly worth the DKP I think (as everyone else has posted) we can agree.
As for if this is a great rogue set? Well hell yes it is. Yes your SS will take a little hit compared to most sword you'll get if your raiding ZG.. but there's more to a combat rogue than SS. With the great attack speed to start with, factor in Blade fury and slice and dice, you're looking at crazy attack speed. What does this mean? Incredibly more chances to apply posions, which means crazy dps. If you can hit 10 times in 10 seconds you're a pwner.
Further more, if you're a human rogue with +5 swords, +5 to swords/fist/dagger talent, and the +6 to swords with the set bonus, you're looking at 316 to swords which is leet.
Completly worth the rogue's DKP (pending that you're not running MC or BWL yet) and you're a fool if you think otherwise.
评论来自
Thottbot
man these things are awsome they droped the other day in zg and im ury warrior an these these things kick butt cause there so fast
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok, For the people who think that this blade (Warblade of the Hakkari) is Good for hunters , are right, People who think this blade is good for Fury Warriors and Rogues, are right...
Its anyones gains , Except for Mages, Warlocks..
评论来自
Automag
I remember working my tail off to get this set on my Hunter. Took forever but was one of my proudest moments in Vanilla.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is a weapon good for All melee classes, even Hunters can benefit from this item :>
评论来自
Allakhazam
vendor trash
评论来自
Allakhazam
评论来自
Allakhazam
U say this isnt good for rogue...can u say 2 good swords for rogues plz? one main and one hand
评论来自
Allakhazam
This set would be awesome for a Human (dps) fury warrior (what is that, an effective +11 to swords?). Essentially you'd be level 62.1 in terms of chance to hit. I think people really over-look these numbers. :)
68 AP
1% crit
+6 Swords
30agi (what is that in terms of crit and AP for a warrior?)
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'd like to see a pic of someone with both of these. Heard they both go on your back and make an `X`formation.
Looks would be the top reason to get this on my hunter.
评论来自
Allakhazam
These would make some mighty fine Fury warrior weapons.
And yes, they are good for hunters too.
Edited, Mon Oct 3 06:12:36 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Enjoy
http://mitglied.lycos.de/akumaxp/hakkari.jpg
Edit Function sucks arounds, if the link doesnt work copy and paste it into the adress bar
Edited, Thu Oct 13 15:54:12 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just got this off hand after what seemed like endless downings of Mandokir. Have the set now and this absolutely rocks for fury, nm that I'm also human and have an effective sword level of just dinging 63 :D. I almost have more rage wielding these than I can use. Love the way they 'feel' in combat.
Was a guild run and these were defaulted to me, just as a striker's mark or dwarf destroyer would be to hunters. Fortunately we've got a good bunch of people, who arent "ZOMG PURPLEZ! MINE!".
Grab these if you can :)
Edited, Wed Mar 15 11:17:54 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
OMG ROGUE WEAPOIN I HAVE ITJD LIEK IT PWNS
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just thought I'd point out for you math-challenged people that this is actually marginally better on bosses than Vis'Kag when you throw in the set bonus (and you use poison).
评论来自
Allakhazam
i have them both and im rogue and i deal the biggest dmg in entire raid so let us wonder why is that? set isnt too bad but i admit there is better ofc and ill change it soon as possible i took them cuz no1 else wanted in raid and i had like gutgorre ripper and heartseeker...now im aimin for vis'kag and bb...then u can rlly see real power or rogue dmg
评论来自
Allakhazam
i have a hemo/coldblood spec rogue whos full epci'd i mainly use fist weapons but when i run AQ and BWL i use these becuz of speed and it gives good dps
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is gonna be the new "Dal'Rends" set for hunters. Lots of AP with two +15 AGI enchants :D
End of discussion with rogues, they just plainly suck for a rogue...
I guess they're good for Fury Warriors too :O
评论来自
Allakhazam
Try Vis'kag in the mainhand and Brutality Blade in the offhand...that's better.
评论来自
Allakhazam
to fast for an rogue, fury warrior? what the hell are you stupid? i kill u using melee.the off hand is real good for an rogue but the main hand is a hunter wepon u dont have to respond that am stupid becuse am right if it droped in ZG the hunters would have i t for sure Good day!
评论来自
Allakhazam
anyone have a picture of someone DWing this? or atleast the main hand?
评论来自
Allakhazam
If I ever play my hunter again, i MUST hav these!
(Klabydos Horde Terenas)
If I ever play my warrior again (who is fury), i MUST hav these!
(Knockerz Alliance Firetree)
Other than that, Shammies need to learn swords! So I can use them on my current toon!
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://home20.inet.tele.dk/energie/Revenenttbo.JPG
Edited, Fri Oct 21 06:48:35 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
What i hate most about these swords are the fact that they are good for so many. Rogues can make great use of these but imo they are way to fast, atlest the main hand, so it wont get any hit SS hits/crits. Great for Fury Warriors thanks to the speed scince Unriddled Wrath will proc a lot with thses giving a great rage bonus, and the crit and AP is superior to Hunters. I would say a Fury Warrior would benefit most from those, but then again im playing a fury warrior....
评论来自
Allakhazam
Speed 1.70 on a sword for Rogue ? come on man wake upp or lose dps !
Now I'm going to compare this w/ Dal'Rend's Arms.
Dal'Rends: You get 54 AP (4 more ap from 4 str, rogues only get 1 ap per 1 str), +7 defense +100 armor (good if you pull aggro a lot), and +1% crit.
Hakkari: 68 AP, 1% crit, and swords +6.
Hakkari only gives 14 more AP, which is negigable, and the swords +6 is nice, but not enough to make it an ideal rogue set. I cannot stress this enough, Hakkari does MUCH less SS damage, making this a BAD rogue set. Rogues, do the right thing. Give this to your hunter or fury war, they can do a lot more with this than you can.
Edited, Jul 14th 2006 at 7:46am EDT by Banakar
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Allakhazam
yeah hunter as well.. rogue can get better in MC for exampel brutality blade /bye rouges
PS:i got the sword. rouge dident evenn alowed to roll..
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Allakhazam
hunter/rogue weapon =p.. warriors have the bloodlord's defender :)
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Allakhazam
Since the new patch lots of paladins want fast weapons to go with Blessing of wisdom/light. Thats me too, but I wouldnt roll on this one (the main hand offcourse) though. Let the warriors, hunters and rogues have it.
I know a lot of pali's who would roll on stuff like this. Thats great if no one else wants it (cant imagine the day that would happen). In my opinion, if you want to deal lots of dammage and get swords like these, play those other three classes. I like to play a walking fortress with near infinite mana ;-)
And if you want speed, buy a hanzo sword or something...
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Allakhazam
Im one of the few Fury warriors lucky enough to have the complete set, and all i can say is it completely owns in raids. Im usually in the Top 3 dmg of all the raids we do overall, and pretty high on the list for all boss encounters. As fury is a build very dependant on exactly what your using as weapons, it pays to have ones as good as these. Ive tried slow main hand and fast off, and never fast/fast, but it works like a charm in any situation. All i can say is if your fury and get the chance to have these go for it!
评论来自
Allakhazam
I want these swords :D
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Allakhazam
Instead of multiplying by the speed of the weapon, the attack power bonus will be multiplied by a fixed number pulled from the following table:
Two-handed weapons: 3.3
Daggers: 1.7
All other one-handed weapons: 2.4
As a direct result of this, many weapons will shift position in their relative power. In particular, many epic (purple) quality items will now be more powerful than slower superior (blue) weapons. For the purpose of instant attacks, the Arcanite Reaper and the Barman Shanker will drop slightly in relative power, while Typhoon and Alcor’s Sunrazor will increase in power.
roll on them now if you don't have better dps swords and bank them till 1.8
评论来自
Allakhazam
i would like to say something here to clear this up for you kiddies out there. the set gives you a total of 68 atk pwr and 1% chance to crit. that is great by its self. With two +15 agi enchants it brings it up to a grand total of 128 atk pwr and 1.56% chance to crit. That my friends is the best set that a hunter can get outta any one weapon or weapon set. Also 1.7 attack speed is a little fast for you rogues out there for your ss, evis combo.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Main hand:
-Viskag
-Chromotacily tempered sword
Offhand:
-Brutality blade
-Maladath
Personaly this sword isnt the best for a main hand rogue, its too fast and it has too low damage for Sinister strike, best weapons for main hand would be slow swords with high end damage, patch hasnt changed much with its new speed forumula.
tbh any of those 4 swords mentioned above pretty much better in main hand then Warblade of the Hakkari
Edited, Tue Oct 18 18:10:41 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
true ths set sucks for rogue. but the bonus is still a rogue bonus:S but good for hunters and fury warriot tbh.. btw i have Main hand, butt still grinding the off hand from the raptor boss
评论来自
Allakhazam
this is no way a hunte wepon its an hunter/warrior/rouge weapon!
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Allakhazam
nice set......HAISTAKAA!
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Allakhazam
Best enchant for rogue would probably be +15 Agility.
Fun blades... they look sweet, too.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Offhand is nice, Mainhand isn't.
Myself am going for the Dal'Rend Swords with dual +15agi. That combined with the rank 10 rogue pvp set and you'll do some mighty fine dmg ^^
评论来自
Allakhazam
Brutality Blade + Vis'Kagg > Warblades.
If you run ZG, you are likely running MC and Ony. I prefer a combat sword spec with +5 skill talent, and points in assassination if I am swords.
I personally prefer a dagger spec, so I went with Dragonfang Blade with the +5 dmg chant and Fang of the Faceless with Crusader (crit and AP). Don't use Perditions Blade and Core Hound Tooth as I beat the pants of those rogues. I know the math for the DPS, which still proves people need to learn how to play.
评论来自
Allakhazam
imo this is for hunters only. if not, show me a better hunter weapon ingame.
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Allakhazam
you know they are changing weapon speed in the next patch daggers all will be set at like 1.7 and one-handed swords 2.4 I believe I don't think I would pass on it w/ new patch coming up
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Allakhazam
hunter weapon
-lv60 warrior
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Allakhazam
In the new patch (1.8) all speed of one hand weapons 2.4 all 2handers 3.3 and daggers 1.7 on special moves this has GIMPED all rogues and warriors this game has just become trash 4 melee .They have NERFED rogues and warriors so bad that i will not even play this piece of trash game again unless they fix this situation. ALL MELEE sucks now. Its so sad to see such a great game do something so stupid like this to ruin it 4 all (melee), it was almost unbelievable when i saw what they had done.
I have the Empyrean Demolisher it was the best sinister strike weapon on the game other than pvp reward weapons that is, and now has become a P.O.S. Even pvp reward weapons are trash now b/c they are 2 slow between sinister strike half of the beauty was the slow speed bouns, and now the only thing good about them is the high dps. Faster weapons are the best now b/c all weapons are locked on the same speed for the special moves SO GHEY.
THERE IS NO DEPTH TO THE GAME ANYMORE
So bottom line is we will never hit the high crits and dps like we once did this is such BS. Today was a sad day =*(
world of warcraft can kiss my _ _ _ guess its back to DAoC 4 me.
When i say no DEPTH i mean on weapon selection. All anyone is going to try 4 now is the fastest weapon they can get their hands on to only come up short of what we once did. B4 if u were another class u would want the fast weapon like a hunter now we will all be going for the fast weapons with the most dps and the slow ones have no use. The slow speed bonus is no more that means no DEPTH and we have been GIMPED. plz dont be a sheep stand up 4 something. We did not deserve a nerf of any sort we already were
not
the damage dealers (ROGUES) as we were suppose to be as defined in the book.
In conclusion BLIZZARD should have fixed the blue weapons that were causing the prob and left the system how it was.
Edited, Fri Nov 4 12:54:58 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
"THERE IS NO DEPTH TO THE GAME ANYMORE"
Um...a nerf took away the entire depth of this game? lmao...you ever read the lore? It would take more than a nerf like this do take away the depth...
评论来自
Allakhazam
I think they are to fast for a rogue to use efficiently
Get brutality blade mainhand and own all :)
Edited, Jul 19th 2006 at 6:14pm EDT by BehrTheRogue
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Allakhazam
i wish ppl would submit more pictures of these new items from ZG! it's not hard just use the dressing room feature and screenshot that! Becasue i would like to c what this lil bugger looks like!
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Allakhazam
Sweet set for fury-warriors or hunters... sucks for rogues...
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Allakhazam
too bad im a shamen but holy h3ll man these swords look fuking awsome put away, on the guys back and all, and they just look awsome in general, i think they would look even kooler though if the hadd beast slaying or demon slaying enchanted on them, now that would be sweet
评论来自
Allakhazam
it is of course fury. i mean, the crtical strike chance! i also like the way that if you get both swords, they are crossed across your back when they r sheathed.
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Allakhazam
fury warriors need it the most than any1
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Allakhazam
No good for rogues at all.
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Allakhazam
Damn i want these swords..over hunter or anything :P
(rogue)
评论来自
Allakhazam
This set most Definately does NOT suck for rogues, infact if a warrior thought he'd need it over me i'd pk him and violate his corpse many times over... as for hunters, dont even think about it... your ranged and thats your main damage, keep it that way.
These babies are perfect for a combat rogue.
End of story.
评论来自
Allakhazam
excuse the noob question...
if a warrior, for some odd reason, likes to dual wield... is this the one to get?
评论来自
Allakhazam
fury warriors dream come true.
also very nice for hunters.
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Allakhazam
Fury wars benefit more from these. Case closed.
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Allakhazam
not to good for a warrior so i say let the hunters have it (hehe so glad i play both)
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Allakhazam
i love it how people are complaining about this nerf, it was BARELY A NERF my Viskag still Sinstrikes for 900+ ... emp did get nerfed a bit yeah but so did everything else, i think you just need to respec or something.... and faster mainhands for rogues are not better do the math play some more and stop complaining.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i'm fury atm, is it worth stickiing with it through to 60,ps FURY PWNS
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Allakhazam
Just got them both. As far as damage my ss crits suffered some not as much as I feared though. Also my evis damage is way up and sword proc goes ape ^&*! with snd up. I only rolled for the set and since we use no dkp in ZG I am set to still get my Brut Blade this weekend.
评论来自
Allakhazam
If you take this as a rogue, what would be the best enchant to put on it ? And why ? Someone please anwser.. TA :).
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Allakhazam
if hunter roll for epic sword
ill roll for epic bow or gun(im rogue)
im sword rogue and that is primary wepon for me
not for hunters they useing range power so the mele wepons are secondary target for them
only one big mather fuker(hunter)will roll for this great blade only for stats
评论来自
Allakhazam
well fury is DMG dealer.. lol?
1.70 speed is not a fury nice wpd. u need slow high DPS and stats. just look @ keldon. true fury warrior
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Allakhazam
The way those 2 swords look in those pic..o.0
do they glow like that from the beginning?
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Allakhazam
I view this set as an upgrade set from the Dal'Rends blades. The Warblades of the Hakkari are great for almost everyone. Hunters can benefit hugely from the +68 atp and crit chance, not so much the +6 swords but meh.. Fury warriors probably do benefit more than rogues from the set as a whole. Sword rogues depend pretty heavily on the damage from their SS while enemies are stunlocked, which is the reason why we need a slower mainhand.
That having been said, I still want these blades on my rogue. Not because I'm a greedy ninja epic-%^&*!, but because I like to play the game a certain way, I do not create cookie-cutter avatars, and these swords combined with Adrenaline rush and blade flurry+SnD along with my base crit chance would be AMAZING.
Yes, a slower mainhand creates more damage on crit ss and gs, bf and so forth. But the speed on these combined with the very nice DPS would make them unbelievable for PvE combat. As well, not everyone has the luck to get Brutality Blade when they want it, and this set is really amazing. Flame me all you want kids, a sword rogue would benefit greatly from this set. If it's pug, roll away, if it's not, foreward it to your fury warriors. If it's up in the air, grab it. You won't regret it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hmm, this main hand weapon would look good on my mage... Hahahahaha, just an eye candy. :D
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Allakhazam
This is a weapon good for All melee classes, even Hunters can benefit from this item :>
Wrong... This is just useless for a Rogue.
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Allakhazam
Those who say hunter's melee bad?
MY crit record @ mage: 1500 using pretty many buffs
including crusader. OEB only got the weapon for test. dw crit: 990 ~~ 1000
My Crit record @ warrior using 2h: 900 that is with the same weapon, and it's VERY nice dmg for hunter's in melee. dual wield crit : 600
评论来自
Allakhazam
You do realise the min and max will still be !@#$e on this weapon?
Fury warriors, Poison Spec (lol) then Hunters.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Best hunter mainhand / game.
F*ck Rouges .
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Allakhazam
trying to send pic but cant find server:S well keep trying
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Allakhazam
This is simply a great set , for so many classes. I can see how a rogue could find better main hand, but its still a great set for them. Def seems to fit a fury warrior the best, but id love to get a set on my hunter. My guild has just started ZG ( about 2 weeks ago) , done about 10 runs , getting farther and farther each time. Am 56 atm and lvling quite fast so hope to be joining them soon and possibly see one or both of these bad boys. The +68 ATP and +crit % will certainly be nice. =-)
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Allakhazam
THIS IS A HUNTER WEAPON!
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Allakhazam
lol @ loser saying anyone who can equip a weapon should roll on it. So your ok if a warlock beats you on this sword? and you ok if a rogue beats you on a bow? Liar. Period.
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Allakhazam
I see alot of hunters with this, should hunters need this? or when should a hunter need this
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Allakhazam
i love these swords i think they rule for a sword rogue and anyone who says they dont is just wrong...... i have +15 agility on both and the crit im pvp/pve specced <strange i know> got blade flurry/cold blood/riposte also sealfate im one of the nastyist rogues on the server because my server is quite new im the only one with the mh one and on first burst with remorseless attacks i can deal best part of 1k damage and get a nice 2 combo point lead on them problem comes when i do raids and carnt fight a single boss if we dont have a pally to give me salvation buff as i out dps and threat the warriors but its getting better now as my guild gets better i got them on my first ever run of zg and we were the first ones on the server to kill hakker as the other guild who got there the day before couldnt do him and spent 2 days trying to kill him <tanks couldnt hold agro hakker runs off stomps on healers and such and then wipes raid> lmao we did him 3rd time and i got a nice lil pressy these with pvp gear are nice im not wearing full pvp as i have madcap sholders and my helm is shadow craft meh god that sucks anyway just wanted to say these are really nice swords for a rogue and have a nasty dps on anything they touch
评论来自
Allakhazam
This sucks for rogues coz of the fast speed which destroys the high Dmg of SS.. its really neat for a warrior/ hunter, whatever
评论来自
Allakhazam
Come on guys why the sour words?
Can't we all just....get along?
By the way...this is pretty nice for Hunter
class(NOT SAYING ITS ONLY FOR HUNTERS).
评论来自
Allakhazam
Both Swords with 15agility enchant give this to a hunter =
196 Ranged Attack power/and melee attp
1.6%/1.7% Crit
+6swords (the set bonus)
you can also combine this mainhand with
which gives =
172 Ranged Attack power/and melee attp
2.6% Crit
Have Fun looting this =)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Most daggers are 1.4, it's 1.7 .. faster than most swords and more damage than daggers, do teh math!
there is only 1 thing that does matter, and that is how you play your character.
You are right though, there are better weapons for a sword rogue, i'd still need these however, call me a noob rogue ninja if you want, i really /care =]
评论来自
Allakhazam
can a rogue wear those blades?
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Allakhazam
have set as a rogue on Kilrogg. since sword for ss are standardized at 2.40 I don't see how it matters anymore. I'm dealing more damage with this baby as mh then when I used Empyrean with a 23/2/26 build and then I used hemo both in pvp and pve dealed more dmg then ss and costed less energy whichbasicly used it for. And hemo never sufferd from the standardisation which means it dill does good dps with slow weps ie empyrean.
Now that I got this set I went back to my old combat sword build 20/31, and damn because of the speed the sword spec proc goes off all the time. I don't really care about the low ss damage the base of the build is not to deal high burst dps but sustained long term dps.
They're imo too slow for fury wars, I'd want 1.5 or less if I was fury dw distractig. Just to generate extra rage for hs spam.
This is my argumen obviously this is not a rogue pvp set but damn it's sweet in pve.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well, for this someone would call me noob, but..This sword could be given to tanking warrior, especialy one without QS or BD. Its fast and it has nice dps, whats important at tanking weapon. Ofc, if rogues want this, they should get first roll ( my rogue is 29 atm, so i still dont know what weapons are best for that class ) but i think its beter to give this sword to tank-in-making then some hunter.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i tought i saw a pus-sy tat.....
yes definately a pus-sy's sword, not sexy bird's
Edited, Mon Sep 19 01:53:44 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
anyone know about set bonus or is there any?
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Allakhazam
I have this sword, I am a hunter :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
ok your right i see prolly did something wrong there idd -.- anyways the Set bonus stinks but they still look nice lol
Edited, Tue Feb 21 17:03:09 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
How often does this seem to drop? I have the offhand and we should be taking Hakkar out pretty soon, wondering if I should just stick it out and wait for this to drop, thanks!
评论来自
Allakhazam
i just got these as a hunter and they own there hard to get thogh
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Allakhazam
With our first downing of Hakkar, and the lack of items in ZG that I'm really interested in, the MH has become more and more of my focus as a Rogue. However, having previously decided that I wasn't even going to bother I'm trying to do my homework and make the best decision I can.
First off, its a game, these are cool lookin swords and so who cares what you use. Just play. As a rogue in PvP situations, having crappy weapons can still win you the fight no matter what. I typically roam on AV in a Festive Green Dress with my pimp hat on.
Now, I don't want to take these over someone who will actually use these as an upgrade. That is my only concern really. I have a bunch of DKP and the only thing I've used it on was the heart of hakkar. Most other people in my guild aren't even mentioning this set and are looking for the polearm from Mandokir, the bow, destroyer of worlds and so on. We will be starting MC and Ony in the next few weeks and others are aiming for loot these. I have stamped bloodletter and BB as my next to main upgrades and general play things, with the AQ Ripper in the distant future.
But at present, these are within reach now. I've considered more and more because I've come across posts by other rogues who have the blades and make a sound argument for using them. These arguements have mentioned the set bonus which I would want, and the other all speed for SnD with poison application speeding up for the MH. I currently lead the Raids with Dal'rends in my main or the Ravenholdt Slicer or both equpped. ( I have a bunch of swords I switch out just for fun, including felstriker ). However during boss fights, I slow down on SS because I like to stay very low on the threatmeter. And I can potientally see these being a plus in that situation cause I want to spam SS a bit more.
I'm basically looking for sound arguements. No, "ur teh n00b" and so on comments. Its a game and everyone was a noob at one point, and I'm learning how to make my toon better and/or enjoy the game more. I can't test it out and then give them back :\
Then of course there is thekal's claw set, which I would use for fun on BGs :)
Edited, Jul 7th 2006 at 1:05pm EDT by Kracus
评论来自
Allakhazam
Dude these were made for Fury Warriors. Main Hands fast and Alot of attack power for BT. Also looks good for Hunters.
评论来自
Allakhazam
10g to vendor? I'm sooo getting this.
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Allakhazam
Arios on Eonar recently acquired the main hand, 60 Hunter Eonar in The Evil Empire.
评论来自
Allakhazam
what does this look like? could we have a pic pls?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Here's a picture of the off-hand warblade.
Warblade
The mainhand item has the same graphic.
Edited, Mon Oct 3 00:55:10 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
well.. it is good for fury warrior but u get better fury wpnd i ZG too.. like 2h sword with 70 AP. and mas dps on it cant remeber dps.. it drops from hakkar. thats a true fury wpd
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hakkar finally drops the mainhand. Been waiting on this for a long time now. :) Looks really good on Dragonstalker.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v622/antonmb/warblades.jpg
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?86714
Although I'm probably gonna use the mainhand and offhand my CHT. :)
Edited, Sat Feb 25 04:01:33 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
If they're the exact same 'unique' item, yes, you can only have 1 on your toon at a time, but these are 2 different swords, so yeah you can have em both.
Edited, Mon Apr 17 00:01:36 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds
Binds when picked up
Unique
Two-Hand Two-Hand Sword
196 - 295 Damage Speed 3.80
(64.6 damage per second)
+28 Stamina
Requires Level 60
Passive: +72 Attack Power.
TRUE FURY Weapond
评论来自
Allakhazam
and yes if u want a duel wield fury wpnd dont take warblade. take this: Bloodlord's Defender
Binds when picked up
Unique
Main Hand Sword
80 Armor
64 - 119 Damage Speed 1.90
(48.2 damage per second)
+15 Stamina
Requires Level 60
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have these 2 babies, and they hit like a freight train. Sinister are around 500-700 instead of heavy weaps 700-900, but I can outdmg the other rogues in guild in mc cause of the extreme fast dmg.
Face to face meele with fury warriors, no stuns, just adre rush, evasion and blade furry, 1 cp slice ... = dead warrior :)
For those who dont know, they made your instant attacks hit with speed 2.4 so it doesnt matter if you have 1.7 or 2.8 :)
I love these weaps, and never gotten so many tells before hehe, makes u popular :P ( first on server to have the set /flex )
posting pic later :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
the main hand is useless to a rogue its too slow to be used to spam SS my Lobo hits harder than that sword these are obviously for fury warriors i wouldnt even want the MH the OH isnt bad though 40ATP is nice. Noob rogues would want that MH wep
If only people like you would use proper grammar. Punctuation you retard! /SLAP
and no, the main hand is PRETTY DAMN AWESOME for a rogue, not ALL rogues are dagger specced you f*cktard; use your miniscule brain please.
and not everyone is on a server where you can GET to Exalted with Stormpike/Frostwolf 'cause AV is never open. THINK you assface.
Ohh, nearly forgot: I'll take them BOTH if I want to, the bonus helps a sword rogue equally as good as a warrior.. No go play with yourself kiddo; and leave the real comments to the players who can use them.
(Not saying you can all use this; but his comment pissed me off... Like it or deal with it.)
评论来自
Allakhazam
I cant wait to get my hands on these :D
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Allakhazam
Duplicate post.
sorry.
Edited, Mon Oct 3 00:56:07 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
to the second post below me...no that sword is for tank genius. warblades make perfect fury weapons.
Edited, Sun Oct 9 20:41:54 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
This combined with Doom's Edge or DFB from BWL (the latter being harder to get since Rogues will prob want it =) gives 120 AP and about 1.8% crit(1% crit from the sword + 46 agi's worth of crit which is about 1.8-1.85 (53 agi = 1 crit for a hunter)).
Also nice is this + Fang of the Faceless.
2 crit/56 AP off the weapons themselves, +30 agi's worth of crit/AP = 0.6 crit/60 AP, so 2.6 crit/116 AP.
评论来自
Allakhazam
boy would i love them. im respecing my warrior 2 fury due 2 the fact we have enough tanks so watch out dps classes here i come! ... that is if i get them *dreaming*
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Allakhazam
My Warrior (Fury of course) would love these.
They do pretty solid dps, add +hit (only a bit but who cares) and best of all: they look great!
Being the only fury warrior in my Zul group I'll probably get them first, allthough I can see the benefits a hunter gets out of these.
Then on the other hand we all get along pretty well and as the melees stay away from ranged weapons our hunters repay the favor by passing on melee weapons until we are properly equiped.
Oh, we only do 20 man instances - so no brutality blade or better for us.
P.S. In PvP the Rend swords can get pretty close if your playstyle is a certain way. The Hakkari swords and whirlwind just don't fit. but who needs Whirlwind as a fury warrior...
评论来自
Allakhazam
评论来自
Allakhazam
my opinion... set for Fury Warrior, rogues use swords/daggers with low speeds and more dps, cuz Rogues do instant dmg, warriors require weapons with speed...
评论来自
Allakhazam
I see alot of hunters with this, should hunters need this? or when should a hunter need this.
评论来自
Allakhazam
The set bonus is +6 to swords
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Allakhazam
at first glance reading through the stats for the weapons and the set as a rogue you think "wow this is clearly designed with melees / rogues in mind" then you look at the mainhand weapon speed of 1.7 and you think "wow way to totally bork a great set of weapons"
as a rogue, I'd pass on this, even though I'd just like to wield something new.
评论来自
Allakhazam
There are level 49 blues with better max damage than this mainhand. This is a set clearly intended for a DW Fury Warrior. Main hand is also quite good for a tanking Warrior.
And Hunters keep your hands off all epic melee weapons except your quest staff, kthx
评论来自
Allakhazam
the main hand is useless to a rogue its too slow to be used to spam SS my Lobo hits harder than that sword these are obviously for fury warriors i wouldnt even want the MH the OH isnt bad though 40ATP is nice. Noob rogues would want that MH wep
评论来自
Allakhazam
i thought that you could only have one unique item equiped at a time...
评论来自
Allakhazam
I recently got the set from ZG and I love it.
I am 20/31/0 and do almost nothing but raids. In my guild we have several other combat rogues with the bwl CTS and combinations on the brute blade and ony sword. That being said, with the totem from BWL, the 3 piece set bonus from Bloodfang armor, instant poison, slice and dice, and blade flurry makes me a happy rogue.
This set continues to let me lead in damage on large boss fights and overall in instances.
On the age old class priority argument, my guild has a warrior with the set as well and a hunter with the main hand. Its been discussed that it works for any melee class that is specced for it.
Plus the duel glowing back sword thing is a nice graphic.
I would also propose that a rogue using the set gains some utility for zerg encounters, as the fast attacks let me pull loose mobs back to the AE pile.
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Allakhazam
every weapon on this website has some1 screaming that it's a hunter weapon wtf ?
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Allakhazam
With blade flurry/slice and dice you're looking at 10 hits in 10 seconds.. tons of posion application and tons of procs. This is definiatly a good rogue set. Also good for hunters. But definatly a good rogue set. Especially if you're a human rogue. +5 human/+5 weapon talent/+6 set bonus = 316 to swords. (leet) P.S what's the best enchant for this weapon if you're a rogue? +5 damage for more SS?
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not sure if this is worth 900$
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