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Ну к примеру другие инжовские чанты для пояса следать будет нельзя,всмысле можно будет заменить один другим. Если ты имел ввиду такие вещи как дополнительный слот в пояс - то тогда можешь спокойно чантить гранаты, он не пропадёт.

Комментарий от 345945

Извечная поясная пряжка в пояс встраивается навсегда, и чанты его заменить не могут.
Очень полезно использовать на бг в узких местах (например, на мосту в Око Бури), чтобы остановить наступление противника, в лучшем случае сразу нескольких.

У поясной гранаты очень большой радиус броска, визуально метров двадцать.

Комментарий от 545201

а можно использовать на арене такую бомбочку?

Комментарий от 355741

Если не ошибаюсь, то работает так же как Кобальтовая осколочная бомба

Комментарий от 345945

Работает точно так же как и любая другая взрывчатка, только бросить можно в два раза дальше.

Комментарий от 561216

Удобно ли использовать вместе с ракетой в перчах?

Комментарий от 529327

А если сбросить инженерию, пояс ты таскать сможешь, но гранату использовать нет?

Комментарий от 729067

А как долго он кидает с ремня бомбы?
Не как обычные в течении 1 секунды?

Комментарий от 879488

Кстати на кате теперь в пояс вставлен нитроускоритель

Although There's a Reason We should have this on our belt, Because of seeing mote Clouds without having the goggles at the 62 +, They dont last forever folks =(, But the downfall is If your like me, A blacksmith engineer, You'll have to Chose between this, or a gem Slot Guess what i'd pick D=
PS I'm not ENTIRELY sure if A Gem Slot would apply as an enchant

Комментарий от TMWNN

At first I dismissed this item's usefulness. After all, don't all good engineers use our crafted helms and their built-in cloud detectors?

I ended up building one today, though. I did so because as a paladin tank I've been using a strength-heavy gearset to level in Northrend, and since I (never having specced for retribution) didn't have the DPS plate goggles, I was using The Horseman's Helm instead. Only today I realized I was likely missing out on Northrend clouds.

I had three choices:

Build the DPS goggles. Very expensive, and green for me so unlikely to earn another point.
Build the new Northrend DPS or tanking goggles. Can't do so until a) I'm 72, b) have 430 engineering, and c) people start running Northrend heroics and Frozen Orbs appear on the market. Stupendously expensive to build, no doubt. Honestly, though, if the materials were available I'd build one or both because they would, like their wonderful Outland counterparts, likely last me through the start of Northrend raiding.
Build the spynoculars. I already had the cobalt ores and Sun Crystals cost about 50g on my server. Not cheap, but not horrible, and they're still yellow. Yes, I'll have to rebuild them as I change DPS belts while leveling, but hopefully by then the crystals' price will decline.

Комментарий от Kelticfox

I have to admit I panicked at first! I misread it and thought that non-engineers would be vying for the Mote clouds!

Thank god for reading things twice!

Комментарий от 249055

Ive Found a cloud of something in the Fizzlecrank airstrip. I used my Zapthrottle thing and i got some crystallized air and fire!

Комментарий от 247943

I've found several clouds now -

Steam clouds around Fizzcrank Airstrip and in Shoalzar Basin yeild crystal fire and air
Arctic clouds in Dragonblight and Storm Peaks yeild crystal air and water
Cinder clouds around the drakes in Shoalzar Basin yeild crystal fire

I'm sure there are more types and more locations... I'll keep an eye out

Комментарий от 243130

Well when I first looked at this "tinker" i was a bit disappointed. I always wear my gogs and didn't see the point in this. But I just got a great helm drop in a 25 man and even though I will miss my gogs, I can now wear the new helm whenever I want with this and not miss the clouds. Hell I could even wear my Santa hat! :)

Комментарий от 309767

Because you are Batman... you carry stuff on your belt

Комментарий от 339146

the goonies?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0702841/ =) blizzard and its sence of humor =O

Комментарий от 165532

Does anyone know if this will automatically change to frag belt when the patch drops, or will we have to re-tinker?

The required materials are different, but the effect number is still the same:

3.1.3 Live: Enchant Item Permanent: Belt-Clipped Spynoculars (3601)

3.2 PTR: Enchant Item Permanent: Frag Belt (3601)

This leads me to think it will convert over, since it appears that Frag Belt is taking over the spot, rather than getting a new # and Spynoculars being deprecated.

Комментарий от magicalhats15

I tested this on the PTR. Basically, you right click on the belt, and it gives you the green radius to click on the ground. It doesn't create a bomb and put it in your bag; it doesn't automatically throw it at your target. It still has a cast time. One won't be able to put it into a dps rotation macro.

If you want to test it yourself, pay special note to the mats; they aren't the same as the spynocular, even though the frag belt is replacing the spynoculars, which i discovered to my dismay on transferring my character over. Had to transfer another character with the other mats.

Комментарий от 431802

/sigh

Doesn't work in arena.

Typical Blizzard >.>

Комментарий от Greatbrae

non-optional to tanks due to cast time. Cast time = no dodging no parries and no blocks.

Also kind of lacking for when your oponents moves allot, and if your rotation has no room for another cast timer.

Комментарий от 340239

Test results: Standard grenade range, ~40 yards, but this belt has a .5 second cast time unlike the other grenades. Damage (atleast in PvP) is only around 600 for me. Minor damage, but the stun can save lives. Very viable for interrupting, popping rogues out of stealth, or nailing that warrior before he can charge. I mean, it's not like you're trading this belt enchant for any others, right?

Комментарий от drained

Cast time = no dodging no parries and no blocks.

seriously?

is that written down someplace? I didn't know that if thats the case.

Комментарий от 293207

Question is, though, what does this share a Cooldown with? Saronite Bombs? The Mind Amplification Dish? Anything? Or nothing?

Комментарий от Tyristrasz

Alright, so here's the real question then: do you want this, or would you want something that can actually serve two purposes, like the Personal Electromagnetic Pulse Generator, which can both confuse mechanical units and detonate another stronger bomb (Explosive Decoy)?

In the immortal words of Alton Brown, "Death to the Unitasker!"

Комментарий от OmegaDuke

Batman haves one too!

Комментарий от Kafros

The macro you are looking for is:

/use 6

Комментарий от 24111

Is there a macro to use this when it's not on CD and Cobalt Frag Bomb when it is? It would be very usefull.

Комментарий от 54740

Does this overwrite an eternal belt buckle?

Комментарий от Ketho

Cobalt Frag Bomb is the spell used by Frag Belt

Комментарий от Sepium

Can you apply it to a belt that already have a use effect, like for example https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=23825

Комментарий от Derren

is there a macro to use it immediatly..? I mean like no need to click on the spot you want and make it target the ground you are standing on..

Комментарий от thewrs

Though you cannot apply this to a belt with an existing 'on use' effect you can use it on a belt to which you have applied an Eternal Belt Buckle.

Throwing a bomb will always result in a 1 minute cooldown before throwing another, so you cannot use the frag belt and then an actual Cobalt Frag Bomb within this cooldown period.

You cannot create a macro which attempts to use your frag belt first and then default to a Cobalt Frag Bomb if your belt is on cooldown. Eg:

/use Cobalt Frag Bomb
/use 6

This is not directly because of a macros inability to detect cooldowns. But because /use 6 supplies a target for the previous /use Cobalt Frag Bomb which invalidates the action.

Комментарий от 638360

From what I've seen, the only other option for enchanting a belt is a Hyper-Electromagnetic Pulse Generator, of which the only use is stunning nearby mechanicals for 3 seconds.
Obviously, the frag belt much more versitile.

The Pulse Generator may be usefull in very highly mechanical populations (Ulduar, perhaps?), but otherwise, this is better.

A use for this may be in warsong gultch.Throw a bomb, grab their flag, and dash out of there.

Disregard. As of 4.0.3a, you will most likely want Nitro Boots or Mind Amplification Dish for your belt.

Комментарий от 391548

Unlike the flexweave back chant or the rocket gloves this does not directly say it requires engineering to use. Can an engineer attach this to anyone's belt? Provided, of course, the engineer has the required skill level to make it and has the materials.

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Прикрепляет к вашему поясу миниатюрное приспособления для сборки взрывчатых механизмов, позволяющее отцеплять от пояса и бросать кобальтовые осколочные бомбы раз в 6 минут.

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