Ever wondered if you could make those uncommon quality gems, that are leftovers from the tons of ores you prospect useful? I guess this post will not be so well respected by the people who already know how you can make big profit from those gems, but everyone should have the right to know it.

Requirements:
Professions:
Jewel crafting: (which is logic of course because that’s where you get the gems from)

Enchanting: it is a must to have a char with enchanting, or a friend with plenty of time, I myself have made a DK (level 58) and gave it enchanting. Level 350 enchanting is enough to disenchant all boe drops (except epics, which you don’t want to DE but sell on the AH). If you don’t have an enchanter yet, and want to power level enchanting till 350, have a budged of around 2k gold ready.

Items:
Eternal earth’s: you need 1 Ee/ 5 gems you are processing, so 2 crystallized earths each gem is needed.
Bloodstone (s)
Sun crystal (s)
Huge citrine (s)
Chalcedony (s)

Getting started:
What we will be making are green items which we can later disenchant for dust, essences and shards.
1 bloodstone + 2 crystallized earths make a bloodstone band (https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=42336)
1 Sun Crystal + 2 crystallized earths make a Sun rock ring (https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=42337)
1 Huge citrine + 2 crystallized earths make a crystal citrine necklace (https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=43244)
1 Chalcedony + 2 crystallized earths make a crystal chalcedony necklace (https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=43245)
These items have a 5 second cast timer to create.

Now, how can we turn this items into a money making factory, well here are some math’s:
Each greeny that you have created has a 75% of dropping 1 or 2 infinite dusts, with a 50% chance to have either 1 or 2, so on average you will have 75% chance of getting 1.5 infinite dust each greeny you disenchant. You will have 20% chance of receiving 1.5 Lesser Cosmic essence, and a 5% chance of receiving 1 small dream shard.
The following statistics are theoretically true if you disenchant 100 items:

You will gain 5 small dream shards, 3 SDS’s can be forged in to a Dream shard which are worth 17g on my server. That brings the total wealth of the SDS’s on 28.3g

You will gain 37.5 Lesser Cosmic essences, which can be forged into Greater Cosmic essences (3:1), GCE’s cost 15g each on my sever that brings the wealth to 187.5g

You will gain 112.5 infinite dusts, on my server these are worth 4.5g each which bring it to a total of 506.25g

All prices together will sum up to the total of 722.3g, so the total wealth per item is 7.22g

I normally wait with buying eternal earths till they are 7.5g each or less, and since they can be turned into 10 crystallized earths, and 2 CE’s are needed each greeny, the total investment I need to make per greeny is 1.5g. since the gems I use are pure leftovers from prospecting, I don’t count them as investments I must make. So this leaves a total profit of 5.72g/ gem you have. Since I prospect at least 150 stacks of saronite ore each week, that is a lot of extra profit I make.

Комментарий от 307955

The daily j/c quests seem to rely heavily on this one.

Комментарий от 448699

I just prospected 6 stacks of Saronite ore, (cheap on my server atm) and only got 4 chalcedony. Whereas I recieved a shedload more of the cruddy dark jade/shadow crystal/sun crystal...

It seems like the 'Pure' gems are less likely to drop than the mixed gems.

Bloodstones, Chalcedony, Sun Crystals all seem to have a lower drop rate for me.

Комментарий от 226331

Chalcedony aren't needed for JC daily quests any more than other uncommon quality Northrend gems are.

Blood Stone / Dark Jade

Blood Stone / Huge Citrine

Chalcedony / Shadow Crystal

Chalcedony / Dark Jade

Sun Crystal / Shadow Crystal

Huge Citrine / Sun Crystal

Blood Stone: 2

Dark Jade: 2

Huge Citrine: 2

Chalcedony: 2

Shadow Crystal: 2

Sun Crystal: 2

And despite also being used for Icy Prism, I have many people attesting that they still have much more Dark Jade and Shadow Crystal than Chalcedony. I believe Chalcedony is the rarest of all the uncommon quality Northrend gems. The percentages from prospecting Saronite and Titanium ore still show it to be equal to the others, but it is a fixed percentage that is that way only because it is assumed they are to be equal. They still would not all be the same percentage drop from prospecting ores because of spurious correlations.

As for what else Chalcedony is used for that could explain its price, it is a reagent for transmuting Skyflare Diamonds and creation of Blood Sun Necklaces, neither of which are popular enough or more popular than other uncommon gems' uses to explain Chalcedony's rarity.

Комментарий от 165285

Regarding the price of green gems and the expensiveness of Chalcedony...

I'd say a significant factor would be the demand by enchanters using green JC jewelry as a source of cheap DE materials. Enchanters are buying each and every Bloodstone, Sun Crystal, Huge Citrine and Chalcedony (but not Dark Jade or Shadow Crystal) below a certain price. By default, this leaves Dark Jades and Shadow Crystals as the cheapest gems on the market (although sometimes Dark Jade's price can catch up to the others due to its use in a metagem and as an alternate source of Dream Shards).

As for the price hierarchy within the Enchanter-Four: Sun Crystal (SC) < Huge Citrine (HC) < Bloodstone (BS) < Chalcedony (CH). Why? Because SC has only one use - disenchanting. HC is also used in Earthsiege Diamonds on top of being disenchanted. BS and CH are used for Skyflare Diamonds, the more popular of the two metagems thanks to the dps meta of choice (for many classes/specs). And finally CH boasts the most uses, thus highest demand by having Icy Prism added on top of these.

Комментарий от Zmori

Chalcedony can be used to make blue gems in Jewelcrafting.

The highest drop rate that the Chalcedony drops off of is a Risen Alliance Soldier (22% drop, 2 out of 9)

The Risen Alliance Soldiers only seem to appear for Horde players only. They can be found around 68.8 - 67.2, for those of you with coordinates; to the east of Mord'rethar.

You can mine it out of: Pure Saronite Deposit, Titanium Vein, Rich Saronite Deposit, Rich Cobalt Deposit, Saronite Deposit, and Cobalt Deposit. (Requires Mining)

You can also mine it from these humaniods: Ormorok the Tree-Shaper (55.7 - 74.7, The Nexus: 8% chance to drop), Krystallus (39.6 - 61.4, Halls of Stone: 8% chance to drop), and Forge Construct (Multiples of them are in 39.3 - 27.7 and 51.0 - 27.3, Ulduar: 4% chance to drop)

It can also be contained in Titanium Lockboxes. (7% chance to drop, Requires Lock Picking 400)

It can be prospected out of: Bloodstone (45% to drop) Shadow Crystal (33% to drop), Cobalt Ore (25% to drop, may drop 1 or 2), Titanium Ore (25% to drop), and Saronite Ore (18% to drop).

It is not only used for Jewelcrafting, but Alchamy as well. "Transmute: Skyflare Diamond", you learn it at Alchamy 430, I believe.

You will also need one for the completion of this quest: Finish the Shipment

I hope this helps =)

Комментарий от 165532

I know the stats on the prospecting tabs for Saronite Ore and Cobalt Ore say there is an equal chance to get this or any other uncommon gem, but that has never been my experience. And by never, I mean that out of all the ore I have prospected (hundreds of stacks by now) I have always ended up with more of all the other gems.

I save Chalcedony, Dark Jade and Shadow Crystal to make Icy Prism. This is the only thing I use Chalcedony for (other than the daily JC quest, when it is called for), but nevertheless I end up with entire stacks of extra Dark Jade and Shadow Crystal while running out of Chalcedony, which means I have to prospect even MORE, which in turn gives me even more not-Chalcedony gems.

The advertised 18% chance to get this from prospecting Saronite equals about 1 in 5 or 6 prospects, in my personal experience it's a lot closer to 1 in 10. Either the RNG hates me (and others) with a burning passion, or something is wrong with the numbers on Wowhead. I do seem to get a very even number of all the Rare quality gems from prospecting and Icy Prism, however.

If I could trade a Sky Sapphire for 3 Chalcedony, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Комментарий от sTyLnK

Chalcedony seems to be the one gem that I never get. So either the RNG hates me as well or the percentage is slightly lower then what it's saying.

Комментарий от Oriana

Can someone explain why wowhead says that it can be prospected from other gems (and itself)?

Комментарий от Therulnig

Chalcedony is the most expensive uncommon gem - Costing more on some servers than some cut rare gems.

This is because it is the highest in demand, and theres a "stigma" that its the rarest from prospecting (which isn't true, but like most markets' WoW's economy is fueled by thoughts like this too).

1) It's used a lot in JCing questing - including the Damaged Necklace quest.
2) It used to be a popular DE gem before the price increase
3) It's used in the Icy Prism CD and a Meta gem transmute.
4) It's a mat in the Blood Sun Necklace - which before the price increase was the main way JC/DEers brought Dream Shards into the market.

Комментарий от 547477

As far as prospecting rates, while each gem is supposed to show up equally, after prospecting many, many stacks of Saronite Ore, Chalcedony has the lowest return rate. Recently the return rate on Chalcedony appears to have gone up a bit, but not my much.

Compounded with comments above on how much it is used, this makes it doubly the most used and most expensive NR gem, on my server making it sometimes twice as expensive as rare gems.

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Комментарий от Allakhazam

You can't pick up the drop from the Spore's!
What the heck is going on? Just another wow glitch!

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