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Comentado por 60273

His name is an Anagram for Arthas Menethil, and he gives a quest in which you control the unhelmetted prince of death to raise 100 ghouls. You actually create part of the WoW Lore in doing this quest, but the idea of the quest is that your character is seeing it happen. Blizzard decided to add a little more epic to the game by making you, instead of just seeing it, actually DOING it. Once again, GG BLIZZ! ^^

Comentado por 161863

I think what horidius is getting at is in the second movie, Tom (Marvelo) Riddle, aka Voldemort, writes his name in the air.

In regards to the game, I believe Matthis is the last piece of Arthas' humanity, since Tirion destroyed Arthas' heart. Matthias may play a crucial role in the Arthas encounter.

Comentado por lemming314

I actually think it goes a little bit deeper than this. I have no direct proof but I think that Arthas in his form of the Lich King is actually being manipulated by one of the old gods (see Yogg-Saron or C'Thun). There are a lot of things that point to these old gods surfacing through Ulduar as related to the previous conflict with Titans and Old Gods (Azjol-Nerub, Weeping Quary, Ursoc's Warning, Loken's Corruption, etc.)

Matthius Lehner is standing next to a portal underneath Icecrown Citadel. The portal is specifically named "Portal to the Surface" or something of that nature. I think there is deep symbolization here or foreshadowing and it's Blizzard's subtle hint that Arthas will be redeemed toward the end of the WOTLK content. The ghost of young Arthas and the portal symbolize his previous life and his want to return to it.

Comentado por 340256

After reading about his many quests and multiple spawn points at once people sometimes miss him. 2 things can help alieviate that, though 1 is class specific.

1. QuestHelper seems to point out the closest Matthias so don't rely on it, HOWEVER it does show his other spawn points as a glowing area on your map whenever you click on his question mark on your map.

2. Matthias is an undead and as such Paladins can use there Sense Undead ability to locate him within around 50 yards. Correct me on the Sense Undead range if I'm wrong.

As of writing Matthias has 5 glowing points on the map and thus should have 5 spawn points. Hope this helps a bit.

Comentado por 242565

if that boy is the last pice of arthase's humanity, then, i think, when he would be opened as a raid boss, in his event we would see how that boy is talking to arthas, mb he will even remember something. but ofcource, the whole situation will be saved by jaina, who will come in the critical point of the fight and tell arthas who he really is and how she loves him and so on...

talking about frostmourme, i think he would be dropped as a legendary item that not a weapon but starts a ques like "The Frostmourne's Purify" where it woul at last be free of the ner'zuls corruption.

Comentado por 363172

For those of you who have played the game "Kingdom Hearts 2"... you might note the similarities:

1) A nobody is a being created from the shell of a person who has lost his/her heart
2) A nobody's name is an anagram of its original name... with an "X" put somewhere in between...

Matthias Lehner = Arthas' nobody?

Kingdom hearts reference? unlikely...
Cool way to look at it... definitely

Comentado por 365512

If you change the positions of the letters in "Arthas menthil" you get Matthias Lehner.

Comentado por mixter

a few wild guesses on frostmourne:
1. only dk's and/or warlocs can use it (steals souls/raises dead)
2.like lots of weps it has an effect to heal you by stealing souls per hit
3. by stealing souls temporarily makes you more strong and agile
4. quest item that you turn in to the
a) kirin tor so they can keep it as another magic relic
b)to the argent crusade so they can destroy it
c)to alexstrasza so she can use her lifebinding power to reverse its effect and relese all traped souls
5. considering healers get their legendary healing mace from ulduar,
most likely all sword wielding classes(1h) will be able to use frostmourne
6.MOST LIKELY: when you kill arthas you see a clip of frostmourne falling down a dark emptyness
surrounding the throne deep withing IC citadel and freeing the souls of all

Comentado por mixter

some interesting facts:
the place underground where you find the hearth is guarded by faceless ones(their leader-yogg saron)
look at the ceeling doesnt it resemble yogg's brain room?with the nerves hanging?
did any1 notice there are some nerubian structures in there? like in AN or old kingdom
accourding to lore kil'jaeden crashed icecrown citadel on the icecrown glacier
considering that 70% of the citadel is underground complexes why are there rivers, mushrooms,
faceless ones and nerubian structures under there instead of dungeons, dark halls etc.

if kil'jaeden crashed IC citadel so hard into the glacier that 70% of it is underround...that must have made a BANG!

guess who woke up last patch.....yogg-saron!

Comentado por mixter

well maybe he woke up before this patch but they didnt send any expeditions

Comentado por 60273

Btw im sorry to say this but Frostmourne shouldnt be a usable sword. I mean, in warcraft lore it steals the souls of whoever comes in contact with it so by wielding it the player would have his soul taken away and turn into another Arthas type bad guy. So frostmourne being usable is just not alright. Even if its power dies off then it would just be a useless peice of steel and leather. Also the lich king's helm shouldnt be usable for the same reason.

Frostmourne and the Helm of Ner'zhul would still be usable, and probably still very powerful. Just because it doesn't have Thousands of souls, and the power and mind of Ner'zhul (Respectively), doesn't mean they're not enchanted. They are. Incredibly.

If someone was to get their hands on Frostmourne after the Lich King was dead, they'd be powerful. But with Ner'zhul dead, Frostmourne would no longer be a vassal for the Lich King. It would just be an incredibly powerful weapon.

Comentado por 269526

Saint Matthias (d. 80), according to the Acts of the Apostles, was the apostle chosen by the remaining eleven apostles to replace Judas Iscariot following Judas' betrayal of Jesus and his suicide.

The plot thickens............................

Comentado por 404088

actually i hope that Illidan would be redeemed not Arthas! cuz arthas was a dumass even before he took the Frostmourne(The Culling Of Stratholme Oo) and btw Illidan is a lot cooler

Comentado por atkrei

i went to the spot on the map but i cant find him, does any1 know where he is so i can start the quest?

Comentado por Perseo

actually i hope that Illidan would be redeemed not Arthas! cuz arthas was a dumass even before he took the Frostmourne(The Culling Of Stratholme Oo) and btw Illidan is a lot cooler

You, my friend, are the dumbass. The culling of stratholme HAD to be done, otherwise why would the bronze dragonflight want you to go there and make sure arthas succeded insead of sending you to kill him? By the look of your comment it seems you didn't play WC3:Reign of chaos and thus, not Frozen throne either.

Comentado por 443543

I think blizz got some inspiration for this questline from Harry Potter: Chamber of Secrets...

In that book as well an unsuspecting person stumbles upon an item imbued with the essence of the bad guy (Voldemort), and a ghost/spirit vision of the bad guy appears only to that person who awakened it. It guided him to do his bidding, and shows the person some things from his own point of view. The cherry on the cake of similarities is that the vision is an anagram of the bad guy's name!

Tom Marvolo Riddle = "I Am Lord Voldemort"
Matthias Lehner=Arthas Menethil

Again, another example of blizz' pop culture inspiration.

Comentado por Perseo

talking about frostmourme, i think he would be dropped as a legendary item that not a weapon but starts a ques like "The Frostmourne's Purify" where it woul at last be free of the ner'zuls corruption.

Nice quest name, Mr. grammar. Nah Frostmourne's power comes from evil, no evil no sword gg.

Comentado por 396095

Well think about this...Why is Arthas trying to Protect his Heart? And why didnt he just destroy it to begin with? Thats becuase something bad will happen if its Destroyed and Arthas knows this therefore Matthias does too, thats why he is trying to get you to Destroy it and sacrifice himself.

Comentado por Perseo

Actually, you do get to destroy it (or actually Tirion) but, Arthas didn't die, it just damaged him.

Comentado por 410413

If you watch the name perfectly you can see that Matthias Lehner is Arthas Menethil.
Just turn the charachters Matthias Lehner this is Arthas.
Matthias Lehner this is Menethil.

Hope you can see it :P

Comentado por 226474

The culling of stratholme HAD to be done

Well, that's what the Bronze Dragonflight tells us anyway. I'm not sure I buy into their theory that the way history has unfolded is necessarily the way it should have unfolded. I think they're playing the safe bet. Good seems to be winning so far. Even with as high a cost as it has been, we're winning, so changing things means giving evil a chance to win. I mean, sure it might mean that good can win with less harm done . . . but if we miscalculate, if changing history ends up letting evil win . . . that would be really, really bad. So don't risk it.

I disagree. Personally I think some risks are okay. But . . . the Dragonflight has some good loots for me. And emblems. So you know . . . I play along. Chump that I am.

Comentado por toeledo122

where is he i cant find him? plz help

Comentado por toeledo122

where is he? i cant find him im looking in right place im so confused lol

Comentado por 597108

this is Arthas Menethil (well what's left of his good) just mix around letters and you get this but also someone stated before that you also get Trash In A Helmet.

Comentado por 451532

I got a kick out of him, because we share the same first name, only mine has one less t.

Comentado por edmeister9000

It is odd how the name "Matthias Lehner" is a direct anagram of Arthas Menethil...

Comentado por Abersyth

Another link to the Old Gods and Yogg-Saron might be the fact there is a huge rift in the sky above Icecrown Citadel, maybe Algalon is keeping an eye on Arthas... Or the Lich King just likes huge skylights.

Also I found at the bottom of the Weeping Quarry, under the water at the bottom of the lake, was a rather suspicious looking creature... not giving anything away, go look for yourselves!

Edit: Typos

Comentado por bobalmity36

this kid is creeping me out.. hes giving me quests to collect blood and he can see through my stealth

[Matthias Lehner]

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