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Comentado por razzem

I hope that this will make Innervates cast on yourself 120% instead of 100%. That would give it a bit more utility.

EDIT: Horray! They reworded it to make it less confusing!

Comentado por 182501

if i interpret this correctly- if you cast innervate on yourself you receive 120% of the mana regen, but if cast on another target it only receives 100%?

Comentado por jinkuzo

The way it reads is more than likely 20% of the original strength of the innervate.

So 20% of 400% is still 80% effect on you. If you cast it on yourself you should get 2 effects, innervate plus this bonus one from the glyph, so 480% mana regeneration. If you cast it on someone else you still get 80%, and the person would get 400%.

So it would be 180% mana regen and full mana regen while casting would be the bonus effect on you..or 580% mana regen and full mana regen while casting if you cast it on yourself.

Comentado por uliko

It increases your spirit based regen by 100% when you cast innervate on someone (incl. yourself).

Innervate yourself and you'll get 100% regen while casting and 600% spirit based regen. (100% base+400% from innervate+100% from glyph).
Innervate someone else and you'll get whatever regen you had (0 or 30% talented) and 200% spirit based regen.

Normal regen
Innervating someone else
Innervating yourself

Comentado por 205449

Using rounded numbers:

850mp5 -> 4800mp5 (normally close to 4000)

899 spi -> regen from spi 760

So... 850 + 760x4 + 760 -> 4800

With my 2 trinkets its 7700

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Comentado por Smbody

Innervate someone else and you'll get whatever regen you had (0 or 30% talented) and 200% spirit based regen.

at these screenshots you seem to have 30% spirit regeneration in combat (Intensity), and if i use your formulae, i'll get:
static mp5+2,3*spirit regen
let's count:
full regen=static mp5+spirit regen (=742 at screenshot)
casting regen=static mp5+0,3*spirit regen (=278 at screenshot)
so, spirit regen=(742-278)/0,7=663; static mp5=742-663=79;

thus, static mp5+2,3*spirit regen will equal to 79+2,3*663=1604, and you have 1404 at screenshot.
i suppose, regardless of your intensity talent, you will have static mp5+200% spirit based regen:
79+663*2=1405, practically what we see at your screenshot.

Comentado por kaokengoku

Logically, from what the descriptions says, it unambiguously states that there are two seperate outcomes when using the Innervate ability

Case 1: "Your Innervate spell now grants you full mana regeneration while casting for 20 sec, in addition to the effect on the primary target."
Did you know you can cast innervate on someone who is not you? Well you can. Anyways, normally if you cast innervate on someone who is not you, then you won't get the effect (obviously). With this glyph, you regenerate mana at 100% of mp5 as well (instead of getting nothing) even while casting. I suppose this glyph wouldn't actually be very useful if you were not casting anything though as innervate doesn't stack with mp5.

Case 2: "Innervate's effect is instead increased by 20% if you are the primary target."
Suppose you cast innervate on yourself (instead of someone else), then normally you would receive the 400% regen effect of innervate. With this glyph, you will receive a 480% regen effect instead of the 400%.

You cannot be in case 1 AND case 2 at the same time (unless we had at least 2 druid characters around).

Comentado por 252688

The trainer doesn't teach this, you need to do Northrend Inscription Research. WoWhead needs to be updated.

Comentado por 102859

To sum up:

- Innervating yourself, you get your mana regeneration multiplied by 5 without glyph, by 6 with glyph
- Innervating someone else, you get nothing without glyph, base mp5 with glyph

I started using this instead of lifebloom glyph to help a fellow raiding priest with her mana, since she sometimes has issues, and the extra mana I get from innervating her makes up for the lifebloom tick lost.

Comentado por 60610

glyph this... so when you accidentally or out of boredom innervate someone else you can atleast give yourself 100% mana regen during casting...

i casted innervate on an 80 prot pally...
he regened 800 mana from innervate, ya rly.

(okay, sure, he was running me though ramps and i mostly didn't care... but still >.> )

and priests thought their hymn was bad as a raid mana tool!

Comentado por 269661

Anybody else noticing it not working at times when you cast it on yourself? It gives dual buffs and everything but I notice once in a while it doesn't work at all.

Changing to glyph of starfire anyways, would be nice to know why though.

Comentado por 145854

As of the release of 3.1, this glyph is not properly giving the additional 20% when targetting yourself. The additional buff never comes up.

Comentado por DragonOrb

Being changed in 3.1.2 to the following:

: Has been adjusted to grant the Druid 90% of his or her base mana pool over 20 seconds.

Assuming my math is right and with the changes to innervate this means that casting innervate on someone else will get the druid:

3496*0.9 = 3146.4.

If the druid casts this on themselves then i guess that they will get the full innervate of 450% of their base mana plus bonus from the glyph:

3496*4.5 (15732) + 3496*0.9 (3146.4) = 18878.4.

Comentado por 24036

Sounds to me like this glyph will be useless, you gain less than a mana potion :S

Comentado por Nekodemus

As of patch 3.1.2 :
Glyph of Innervate: Has been adjusted to grant the Druid 90% of his or her base mana pool over 20 seconds.
and,
Innervate: This ability has been redesigned to grant 450% of the casting druid's base mana pool to the target over 20 seconds.

No more spirit required!
Note that this works off of base mana, not your full mana amount when you're wearing +int gear, etc.

Comentado por alej

90% * 3496 (druid base mana) = 3146 mana gained by the druid when innervate is casted on someone else.

Comentado por sietelle

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this glyph is being changed (or are they adding a new one) in 3.2?

From the PTR Patch notes:
"* Glyph of Innervate: Duration reduced to 10 seconds."

The information provided by Blizzard is a little vague but I am hoping that they are either adding the duration reduction to this current glyph or are creating a new/different one.

Comentado por 320226

3.2 change:

Use: Innervate now grants the caster 45% of <his/her> base mana pool over 10 sec in addition to the normal effects of Innervate.

45% from druid based mana pool is 1573 mana.

So innervate + glyph regenerate 9439 mana per 10sec.

Comentado por 416390

Now I'm not sure if I am reading this wrong or if it is how the glyph is supposed to work, but if it grants the caster 45% of their base mana pool over 10s in addition to the normal effects, does that mean that if you were to cast innervate on a different party member you would have 10s of free 45% of your mana pool and they get the benefits of normal innervate?

Example: I have 1000 mana, cast innervate on the mana sucking paladin next to me when I am at 500 mana. Does this mean that for 10 seconds I will get 950 mana and then it will drop the benefit much like the extra health gained for a warrior's Last Stand?

Comentado por loozerr

In PvP this is very useful because the buff given by this counts as a separate buff, meaning "real" innervate will be harder to dispel.

Comentado por 125795

I cant see any math on this when it comes to mp5, so I will just do it real quick here:
Druid base mana pool = 3496 source

Ordinary Innervate: 225%(7866mana) regen over 10sec every 180 sec = 7866/180*5 = 218.5mp5

Glyphed Innervate: 265%(9439mana regen over 10sec evert 180sec = 9439/180*5 = 262.2mp5

This glyph = 43.7mp5

Comentado por MMOSimca

In Patch 3.3.5, this was Glyph of Innervate (Major) - Innervate now grants the caster 45% of <his/her> base mana pool over 10 sec in addition to the normal effects of Innervate.

In Patch 4.0.1, it has been changed to Glyph of Innervate (Major) - When Innervate is cast on a friendly target other than the caster, the caster will gain 50% of Innervate's effect.

Comentado por synackk

4.2 is going to make this glyph not very attractive, as innervating another player will provide very little mana.

Comentado por DragonOrb

4.2 is going to make this glyph not very attractive, as innervating another player will provide very little mana.

Looks to me to be fairly similar to how it's been in the past. The wording has changed but if you look at the actual numbers, it's still providing about the same as a mana potion - which is how it's been for the last few major patches since about 3.1.

Comentado por Catyra

This glyph was useful in the beginning of wrath when mana was tight on nax fights, but now that mana pools are exceeding 20k getting 10% of your mana pool back isn't worth it in either spec when you are missing out on major healing or DPS glyphs. WotLK classic's defense protocol alpha means new 80s can pretty much skip nax and the heroic fights (even on +) aren't long enough to OOM.

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