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Comentado por 156400

Awesome model on this baby.

Comentado por 55056

Currently drops from from Violet Hold (heroic) from Cyanigosa, the last boss.

It matches the Spirit of Competition pet from the 2008 Summer Olympic Games PvP event, for those of you who like to accessorize!

Comentado por Mihir

Best pre-raid dps staff in WotLK.

Comentado por Djuntas

This is a must have for any seroiusly Feral druids for pre-raiding.

Would say this beats the feral weapon from naxx aswell at the moment making this even more wanted. Maybe they will add something stats, when armor is removed from staffs, so naxx staff will be better ? Who knows :)

And wowhead is rigth about the rather low drop %. Quit rare drop

Comentado por reidsb

The mongoose enchant looks amazing on this weapon.

Comentado por avrillapete

Actually, no it is not.

Armor
We are changing the way bear armor works so that bonus armor on items does not receive the bear armor multiplier. Specifically this means that trinkets, rings, necks and cloaks with bonus armor will not be multiplied by the bear bonus. The normal armor on leather will still be multiplied by this bonus. We are also going to remove bonus armor from Feral staves. You’ll get your bonus armor from the leather you acquire.

Examples:

* 1) A ring that grants 100 bonus armor will now grant a bear 100 armor (not ~470 armor).
* 2) Leather legs with 253 armor will still grant a bear ~1190 armor (not 253 armor).
* 3) A feral staff will now grant 0 armor.

Source

Comentado por vvg125

Once the patch to remove armor from feral weapons comes out, this will in fact be better than https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=39255 (raid drop from Naxxramus) for both tanking and DPS.

Not only does it have greater strength, it only lacks 2 stamina in comparison and the rest of the stats are identical. Definitely an ideal weapon pre-raid for any feral druid.

Comentado por 259036

I've done violet hold about 10 times now, this baby hasn't dropped =\

Comentado por 106434

Just dropped for me today. /need

Crazybear has need rolled 1
StupidHuntard has need rolled 4

Crazybear: Why did you need? =/
StupidHuntard: I'm bm
Crazybear: What...?
StupidHuntard: I need more feral AP for my pet duh.
Crazybear: .../facepalm

Fail. Will try again tomorrow. On a side note, wicked staff and with the removal of armor on other staff this one is a keeper well into Naxxramas.

Comentado por 278477

Any hunter who might have looted this item have done the right thing as this item will no longer be druid-only weapon in 3.0.8

According to MMO-Champion, many items are redesigned to fit other classes needs aswell, Staff of Trickery will become:

358 - 537 damage
186.5 DPS
89 Agility
133 Stamina
Equip: Increases attack power by 180

So a very desirable weapon for hunters as well. Will definitely pick this one up if it drops even before the patch.

Comentado por 242163

picked mine up last night as a hunter.
now to wait for the patch

Comentado por 161800

I seriously doubt that the drop rate is 20%...

Ran this 14 times already...

no staff :(

Comentado por exShinra

Current stats on the PTR

Staff of Trickery
Bind when picked-up
Two Hand Staff
358-537 Damage Speed 2.4
(186.5 damage per second)
Requires Level 80
89 Agility
133 Stamina
Equip: Increases your attack power by 180

As compared to Runeblade from Ebon Blade (Which most hunters at this point have)

Runeblade of Demonstrable Power
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Sword
474 - 711 Damage Speed 3.50
(169.3 damage per second)
+63 Agility
Durability 100 / 100
Requires Level 80
Requires Knights of the Ebon Blade - Revered
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 67 (1.46% @ L80).
Equip: Improves haste rating by 33 (1.01% @ L80).
Equip: Increases attack power by 168.

Upgrading to this over the runeblade will give you

+133 Stamina
+26 Agility
+12 Attack Power
-33 Haste
-67 Critical strike rating

Not bad.

Comentado por 275480

nice staff. ive been after this for over 2 weeks and have not seen it drop once.

hoping patch will come soon. i think im gonna go with the titansteel destroyer instead.
i dont think i can cope with another vh run, even though its really easy :<

Comentado por 273471

Can anyone confirm whether or not the amount of AP that ferals get from SoT remains the same after the upcoming changes?

Comentado por 40449

Reference can be made to Loki the Norths' god of Trickery , who has often been curved in wooden figures and in many scriptures has been drawn with a green light glowing out of his eyes.

Comentado por 303090

Actually as a feral druid - by Blizz removing strength and replacing it with x2 AP (which is what most classes get as a conversion) but because ferals have talents that improve that ratio you are losing approx .5 AP per point of Strength. So for this Staff you are going to lose about 45 AP. You can read all the theory behind this on EJ.

Comentado por toastmaster7727

New stats as of patch 3.0.8:

Staff of Trickery
Soulbound
Two-Hand Staff
358 - 537 Damage Speed 2.40
(186.5 damage per second)
+89 Agility
+133 Stamina
Durability 120 / 120
Requires Level 80
Equip: Increases attack power by 1843 in Cat,
Bear, Dire Bear, and Moonkin forms only.
Equip: Increases attack power by 180.

Comentado por 97468

droped for me(dps cat) and it boosted my dps for 240.ONLY FOR DRUIDS.After all we have only staffs and maces.Give us a break hunters,you can dual weild.(With new patch i think druids will wear polearms too).

Comentado por whiplashmtb

No self respecting hunter would dual weild because you don't get enough stats from it compaired to a 2her

Not Necessarily. It really depends on what stat you're looking for.

When Raiding I roll with 2 Fangs of Truth to get my +Hit up. When Just starting out in Naxx, you can slap a couple of Titanium Weapon Chains (for the +28 hit each) on them and Voila.. You're pretty dang close to the Hit-cap.

Find me a 2h weapon with +122 Hit rating.

But, once you're hit-capped via other methods than your weapon, this staff is wonderful.

Comentado por 225010

hi guys i'll icud'nt believe my eyes when this staff dropped im a hunter (boathed) i just got looted this
rather epic looking staff and im currently using it now as it it the best prob the best pre-raid spec wep u cant ill submit a screenie as proof.the reason i using it is when it dropped it didnt hav the druid stats on the just the attack power and the agi and stami

Comentado por Netheral

I would really like to hear from the druids on this, since patch 3.0.8 is here, do you think that a hunter is allowed to roll against a druid on this staff? I'ts pretty obvious ofcourse that it is a viable weapon for a hunter now, but if it drops and there is a feral druid and a hunter in the group, wich one should get priorities?

Comentado por Thrakin

I'd rather ask; If a hunter polearm dropped now, would a druid roll on it? Stop all the 'druids first' or 'huntards first' crap; We share weapons now. We haven't been 'allowed' to use druid weapons; Blizzard has done away with Feral AP. Get over it.

That being said, by all means (BOTH hunters and druids) go for it. It's a great weapon.

Comentado por 310451

Greeded on this item, there were no druids in our group.. was pleasantly surprised at the stats on this item for a hunter. There are certainly better hunter melee weapons, but this is still exceptional. I would have passed had there been a druid, so it was my lucky day.

Comentado por 222908

best pre raid hunter weapon as of patch 3.0.8

Comentado por Morthor

I have done around... 20 runs on Violet Hold, and the Staff simply will not drop for me. With a 20% drop chance, it should have dropped by now. Sorth of getting tired of doing the same instance over and over again, aldready have all the possible acheivements in it.

Comentado por 222908

currently all druid staves have become amazing for hunters, this is on par with black ice, 20 less agi yet 50 more ap, surv will take black ice over this but it is only a minor upgrade

Comentado por 168440

I'm one of the hunters who have admitted, that, from now on, we'll have to share weapons like these with druids, so, I wouldn't really cry if a druid needed this staff.... But i'm crying because a dw Fury Warrior needed on this too and i lost it, after doing 20 times this heroic... Can someone explain the reason to me, because i cant see any.... they apparently cant dw staves and they dont even need that load of agi to anything except crit...

Comentado por Danaan

The same here. I am on run number 12, no stave at all. What makes me cry is the increasing number of hunters wielding this nice baby.

Did they lower the drop rate? I need this badly!
When my paladin hit 80 i saw the stave dropping on two consecutive days. But it had never dropped since then.

Comentado por 177635

I don't know what it is, but when I had this staff, it did not have the druid AP.

Comentado por 244366

If you are a post 3.08 Survival Hunter and have 3/3 in Hunter vs. Wild you will gain another +30AP from the 102 Stamina for you and your pet: "Increases you and your pet's attack power and ranged attack power by 30% of your stamina." Not forgetting the bonus 15% mutiplier of AGI by having 5/5 in Lightning Reflexes. I have the Runeblade of Demonstrable Power equipped now but would roll on this weapon.
Probably wouldn't roll against a Feral Tank though. My main is a Prot Warrior and I root that healers and tanks get priority on useful drops. :D

Comentado por 282837

50+ runs in heroic VH and not yet seen it, anyone have a rough estimate on the droprate?

Comentado por 261715

sadly now every feral staff is also perfect for hunters, anyone who disagrees is a noob because these have the highest AP that you can get pre raids, perfect hunter stats, so druids and hunters get an even roll on this

Comentado por Aezur

Went for the daily today when this thing dropped. Needless to say, my druid was pretty happy and wasn't really expecting an upgrade.

Well, long story short, the dps warrior rolled a 56 and I rolled a 47.

I mentioned something about it in trade and actually got quite a few tells going "u mean hunters?"

No guys, I mean warriors.

Comentado por 71051

Screw hunters, they have excessive options for weapons, what I would like to see is for them to finally give druids itemisation on weapons.

You say, "Hit, expertise, armor pen, hello Blizzard?"
Blizzard pats you on the head fondly and adds another 2 points of stamina and sends you on your way.

Comentado por 326319

Saw a mage using this weapon today in a naxx 25 man pug. :(

Comentado por 336325

This is also great pre-raid for a Surv hunter with points in Hunter vs. Wild. Also, i have this on my hunter because he is pvp and the stam is very yummy for that as well.

Comentado por 337106

This dropped on my second VH run. xD I was so excited!

I slapped a +AP enchant on it and ba-bam.

Comentado por part7

This item has been disenchanted 666 times.

i loled

Comentado por Hannibal08

I've killed Cyanigosa 20 times in Heroic VH and never seen this. I have to say, it's more than just a little annoying. That's pretty excessive for something that is one of four items that can drop each time in an instance that you can only do once each day.

Also, how do the rates here even make sense? She drops an epic every time, one of four, but they each drop 1/5th of the time? So what happens for that other 1/5th?

It's anecdotal, I know, but it seems the epic weapons that can drop are much rarer than the other three epics that heroic end bosses can drop. I helped a friend with the tanking sword in H UP. It took 15 runs to see the first one drop. I have only seen the healer mace in Nexus, the crossbow in UK and the fist weapon in CoS one time each. Granted, I haven't done those three instances quite as much as VH and UP, but the weapons look to have lower drop rates based on my limited data set. I also realize that I am probably statistically very unlucky with this staff, but it doesn't make it any more annoying when another epic gets DE'd at the end of the daily VH run and I still haven't seen a staff drop to even lose the roll on. Then I walk into Dalaran and see them on hunters all over the city. Druids too, I am sure, but they're often shifted, so I don't see them as often.

Comentado por 164392

Dropped for me yesterday on my first heroic run in VH. Great survival hunter stats. We had no druid in group, but i would have rolled need anyway.

Comentado por agentex50

i got this on....an extremely glitchy run. about 2 portals in, a dragonkin got stuck in the ground. we couldn't target him, so we have our 80 DK DPS keep the endless adds from getting to the door.Xevozz was annoying, but we did it. second boss was Zurumat, and i died but everyone else managed to live. after this we had our 80 pally DPS switch places with the DK, Cyanigosa spawned, and she went down faster then Xevozz. All that time we had someone on the glitched portal, and the prison door only got to 36%. much much fun and hysteria!

we had a resto druid in the group, but he had naxx10/25 gear and gave me permission to take it. i AM a huntard! not all huntards are ninjas, most of us are just plain idiots who would roll on the Cleaver from H HoL over a TG warr ( which is unforgivable). you can usually tell if a hunter will need on tank weaps, because they pass on everything else, then claim it was an 'accident' which is also just plain BS. all in all a great hunter weap, but if a druid doesnt have better, he should have the right to rip out your throat if you roll on it XD

Comentado por Diodor

I did this instance 15 days in a row and staff still didnt drop. Im one sad feral druid :(

Comentado por Okacz

I heard an opinion that this item is better then Black Ice from Malygos, cuz it gives overall more AP. Ok, but hunter with 5k ap ub and, for example, 25% crit and 100 hit rating is not rly good. Too many huntas feel that AP is the only thing they need. But this staff is still good.

Comentado por 242632

I wish there were more hunter staffs...

Comentado por 157377

Currently the lvl 80 epic disenchanted most :P

Comentado por 251364

and how about druid tanks?

Comentado por Villordsutch

Got mine today after passing on the first drop I saw.

About the 8th VH Heroic, and I made it clear as I walked in the only thing I will need on will be the Staff on the last mob. All where fine with that even the druid.

An excellent group who destroyed the room.

I just need to find a good enchant for it.

Comentado por 223879

I have run H VH every day for a month. This staff is the ONLY THING that hasn't dropped. Last night my buddy ran it on his alt and the staff dropped. I'm !@#$ed.

Comentado por 252338

the staff is the best for hunters pre naxxs hands down.......i would also say that his is a fine weapon for a feral druid as well......and if a staff dropped druid/hunter would roll and i know druids roll on polearms because i saw a feral druid the other day with black ice

Comentado por 376000

Great for hunters and very easy to get too :)

Comentado por 93550

Could also be a viable 2h weapon for an enhancement shaman to play with in pvp for big windfury crits.

EDIT: Got this upon a heroic VH run after posting this. Its high end damage is too low, and speed too fast and didn't produce crits as high as the 2H mace from Argent Crusade that I was using for pvp fun.

Comentado por supercrem9

I saw a warrior on my server dual-weilding this and titansteel destroyer today. I thought, at first, "OMG!WARR WITH HUNTER/DROOD STAFF?WTF?" Then i thought a little bit more...this has agil stam and att power, well wars use weapons that dont str on them sometimes but instead have agil and att power, like runeblade of demonstrable power and Black Ice. So...would this actually be good for a warrior?

Comentado por 223389

The most disenchanted epic in WotLK

Comentado por 311932

i just recently dinged 80 on my first and only character, a feral kitty druid, first heroic i ran was H VH, the warrior tank said something about that staff and how if it drops i should need it, it dropped :)
it was a ood day that day
i showed it to everybody in my guild and my friends, they love it, and me. great day great day
i also got what a druid tank told me was best pre naxx tanking bracers, bindings of the tunneler if i remember right, still good feral cat peice

Comentado por 307113

now there is a way better weapon for hunters
the Marrowstrike. it gives way more stats, gives more agility and a bit of stamina and AP is lost but you gain a yellow socket crit raiting and armor pen.

Marrowstrike drops in ToC (Heroic) from the Priestess (2nd boss) half the time she shows up thoe

Comentado por 541369

After reading all of this I can't believe how lucky I am. This was the first ever Heroic I've done with my first and only 80 hunter and nobody wanted it. Still debating whether or not I want to change out of my twin Fangs of Truth without having more hit points to back me up. Keep em in reserve I guess....

Comentado por Sinopa

Is this one better than https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=49793?
Because I did not think so, but i never hear people saying anything about tower of the mouldering corpse and they recommend staff of trickery to me when it drops.... i'm a feral dps druid btw.

Edit: no idea how to correctly link it....

Comentado por 602336

got mine today. according to many others its a good preraid staff for druids AND hunters. i went specifically for this staff and passed on all other BoP stuff. a DK got $%^&ed off since i need rolled for it after i asked the group. no one but him objected and there wasnt even a druid in the group. not sure why he wanted it, i guess he needed the gold? he may be from the old school where only druids used staves like this...unless DKs like to use staves to?

BTW - tower of the moldering corpse is better than this one.

Comentado por 533106

ok.....i just got this staff yesterday...and i did pull need on it to get it...it was a huge upgrade to the whalestick harpoon i got from the kulak...and the 180 attack power coupled with the greater savagery i added to it gave me a total of 265 attack power. as a beastmaster hunter this will add significantly to my pets attack also. I will also state that this is the first weapon i have had drop that was even remotely viable to have for my guy. the feral attack power buff i could not see so i grabbed it. I know many people will say that beastmasters aren't even viable ....but i am having fun with him and my pets enjoy 4 extra points to use in thier pet talents. There was a druid in the group but i saw that he had chose disenchant for the staff.....so it's not like I was stealing an important weaon from anyone....yaay for me

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358 - 537 de dano	Velocidade 2.40

(186.46 de dano por segundo)
+89 Agilidade
+201 Vigor
Durabilidade 120 / 120

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Preço de Venda: 25 67 51

Saqueado de: Cyanigosa

Chance de Saque: 10.98%

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