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Comentado por 307977

If you fail on this and wipe the raid, you will most likely receive a 50 DKP minus.

But in order to save yourself, here is a strategy.
Odd groups go left, even groups go right. 1, 3, 5, 7 left and 2, 4, 6, 8 right. 7 and 8 are the designated whelp groups.
DPS slowly, overaggroing will result in another 50 DKP minus

Comentado por 119038

Most likely named after this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtvIYRrgZ04
(WARNING) Harsh language. Very funny though.

Comentado por 138638

but but

it's like 1 in a million its not even remotely manageable

EDIT:
panzer I was refering to part of the ony video in which he refers to teh chances of getting knocked into the drakes

Comentado por 124694

Curious if anyone has done this and knows the timing. 'Within 10 seconds of liftoff' sounds like the phase 1 to phase 2 transition where the whelps are spawning anyways. Our raid counted about 40 whelps spawning at that point, 20 from each side. So it seems a possibility that you only need to spawn an extra 10 whelps.

-Looking to do the achievement withouth a 50 DKP minus

Comentado por 367379

It's like a much harder version of the leeroy achievement

Comentado por 337106

Some guildies did this last night and said that they got 10 extra whelps (+ the 40 that spawn normally) and did not get the achievement, so they're guessing that you have to spawn 50 + the 40. However, that seems a little ridiculous. I wondered if the achievement was bugged or something, because for some reason they did not receive the Onyxia's Lair achievement until they logged in today. *shrug* Patches.

Comentado por 178494

We did attempt this achievement earlier this week and did spawn more than 50 additional whelps, but unfortunately for some reason we didn't get the achievement (probably wrong spawn time). Ability to track that 10 second interval would be a welcome addition, since killing the whelps isn't all that hard with good geared tank and sane DPS. Powerful PC is advised though: framerate drops significantly during the AoE. Surprisingly enough, no one disconnected even when we had 130+ whelps.

Comentado por 50108

The question is do you have to spawn the 50 whelps as soon as she hits 65% or after she takes off... we tried after she lifts off this week so it may be just as she hits 65%.

Comentado por 197608

I just killed her and acquired this achievement on 10 man. We had a rogue and a feral druid head to the openings of the whelp pits, and the moment she lifted off they sprinted and spawned about 30-40 each. We ended up with 116 whelps total, AoEed them down, then killed her.

We defined the moment she lifted off as the moment her feet left the ground, and it worked like a charm.

Comentado por 4634

Haven't done this achievement yet, but one of the ways people used to wipe raids for fun was to go back to the entrance and run from one end of a whelp bed to another. I imagine if you had your OT set up in that position for the air phase transition he/she'd be able to spawn the additional 50 whelps from a single side. If they're spamming their AoE aggro moves they should have full aggro by the time they reach the opening and AoE could just nuke em down quickly. Main tank picks up the 20 on the other side and pulls them to the dragonkin spawn.

Comentado por 466472

We tried this achievement last night , and having a rogue to sprint across one pit is more than enough to spawn that many adds and having another for the opposite side ( just to be safe or sure that you get the achievement ) seems to work really well . Unfortunately , Due to the amount of whelps / environment interactions about whole raid or most of them seemed to disconnect from the servers.

If your group faces the disconnect issues , trying running without addons and having your video settings on a minimal level .

Comentado por 342414

Very fun achievement.
Don't forget to turn your combat log off before the fight, or you'll get DC

Comentado por Kotik

Our guild did this today. Took us 2 attempts so it wasn't very hard. First attempt we tried with 2 healers but the damage was too much to be outhealed. The second attempt I specced holy from shadow and we managed it without anyone dying.

Here is what we did:
1. We assigned 2 people to spawn the whelps. In our case an elemental shaman and a holy priest.
2. When onyxia hits 65% and takes off both of the assigned people stand at the entrance of the caves on either sides of the dungeon and waits there. They do not run into the caves.
3. We waited untill onyxia ran to the back of the room like she always does upon entering Phase 2. The second she does the U-Turn and begins her ascend we said "Go" on ventrilo and the holy priest and elemental shaman ran inside the caves forcing the whelp spawns.
4. Since a total of 50 whelps has to be forced to spawn, we have either sides force roughly 25 whelps to spawn each. Before you engage the boss you can have your 2 assigned people run to the sides of the onyxia dungeon and have a look into the caves giving them a rough idea how far into the caves you have to run to spawn the 25 said whelps.
5. The 2 people spawning the whelps will not heal or do anything else that makes them pull aggro or they will not survive inside the caves. Fade worked amazing for me as a priest.
6. Have the tanks pick up the whelps, wait a few seconds before aoeing them. This is the ideal moment to blow your Blood lust / Heroism.
7. You earned 10 achievement points and your epeen grew by 1cm.

Note: Our MT disconnected when we spawned so many whelps at the same time and from the other comments here it seems to be a common thing. He did so on both our attempts. So instead our druid OT with pretty poor gear (46k with all hp increasing buffs) tanked all 90 (50+40) whelps. With 2 tanks and better geared tanks this should be notably easier. I just wanted to point out that this achievement really isn't hard and is not a question of gear. If we managed to 9man it with 1 tank and 3 healers better geared and skilled people can do it alot easier.

Good luck!

Comentado por peeka

Turning off all combat text (especially the damage you do) fixed my disconnect problems

Comentado por Myraxa

We found an easy way to do this.

The worst part of this achievement is the ambiguity of when "lift off" actually is. I've seen claims of the following:

-It's when she hits 65%
-It's when she turns around at the entrance
-It's when she comes off the ground
-It's when she actually engages her flying animation.

After trying this for three weeks, we found the following solution:

Tank her at the entrance of her room. Tank stands with his/her back to the big rock ledge near the entrance to her room. Her knockback will knock the tank on top of it but not into the cave. Left or right, doesn't matter. Raid on other side. When she HITS 65%, pop your whelps however you want.

Kill her. Don't DC. Win.

Comentado por Dapimpman

Here is how we did it :
1) Tank her at the back of the room
2) Have 2 people stand at the entrance (preferably pallies that can bubble or druids that can sprint)
3) At 65% when she drops aggro, turns around, ... , whatever you want to call it, that is the exact moment when you can start hatching, let the 2 hatchers jump down each side, move through the eggs quickly and gather in the center, or get protection in a consecration, death & decay or whatever AOE zone (if you claim you didn't got the achievement because of the timing, you are probably incorrect & spawned too little whelps).
4) Prepare for mass DC-ing :-)
5) Finish whelps and hopefully you will have plenty of people up/connected to finish the job

Few pointers :
You need to hatch 50 eggs, not kill 50 whelps at that point. The first time we tried to hatch only one side and there just aren't enough eggs to get the achievement. You might try to pop one full side, and half the other side, but we haven't tried that yet. We just hatched both sides. I think there are about 45 eggs each side, and 20 inc whelps total that come anyway, so you will have about 100-120 whelps up at once.
Turn of all add-ons that you don't really need.
People that DC and get back on at the time she's dead will also get the achievement.

Comentado por Lassy

We have been trying to get this achievement every time we went in there for a while now. If you, like us, were stuck on the wording of the achievement and just couldn't seem to get it no matter how many whelps you spawned at any given time here's a surefire way to do it.

We used three tanks, one tanking ony and picking up stray whelps off the healers. One tank at the entrance to the whelps and one tank at the little bridge over the whelp cave as you come in.

As soon as you enter phase two, which means as soon as she turns to run back to the entrance where she lifts off, both the whelpspawning tanks enter the cave from their respective entry-points and head for the exit on the other side. You spawn such a ludicrous amount of whelps for such a long time that you can't *not* get the achievement, if you manage to survive that is.

It's overkill, but with the current gearlevels quite doable. Beats the hell out of debating what the "right time" and "right amount" was for several weeks.

Comentado por Gohanssj237

Biggest ordeal you'll have to face in this fight is Onyxia awesome DC powers.

Comentado por 451796

Figured it would be worth mentioning that you get the achievement when ONY dies, not as soon as you burst 50 whelps. We wiped on purpose several times to do this only to give up and nuke her, and then get the achievement. :)

Comentado por Skotty

There is quite a lot of ambiguity regarding this achievement so I just wanted to clarify a few things and offer some insight!

First of all, make sure you read the achievement and understand exactly what it is asking. The achievement says that you need to HATCH 50 whelps WITHIN 10 seconds of Onyxia's LIFT OFF. That means that you have to hatch the whelps at the beginning of Phase 2.

Secondly, don't hatch the eggs until all of Onyxia's legs have left the ground completely. She doesn't have to be at max height; she just has to be completely in the air. Additionally, you do not have to *kill* the whelps within those ten seconds, just hatch them. You can take all of the time in the world to kill the whelps.

Finally, the whelps that Onyxia spawns at the beginning of and throughout phase 2 DO NOT count towards this achievement. As others have said, you will need to have a minimum of 90 whelps alive at the start of phase 2 in order to successfully complete this achievement. Just have two people jump off the bridge (in opposite directions) at the same time Onyxia leaves the ground and sprint through the eggs. Then have everyone collect in the center of the room, blow your cooldowns, and kill the whelps.

Note that you do not get credit for completing the achievement until Onyxia dies since killing her is a requirement.

Unfortunately there's no way of knowing how many eggs you hatched so it's better to be a little overzealous with the hatching than hesitant. Good luck!

Comentado por Mormolyce

After many failed attempts I got this achievement using the "tank her near the liftoff point" method. Thanks heaps for that advice. Also I had 2 people on each side run down the whelp caves to make sure we got enough whelps this time. At least a couple of people went nuts and pulled pretty much everything - we had a lot more than 90 whelps but luckily nobody dced for once :)

Next week I will see if the same is true on 25-man.

Comentado por 485957

We 3 manned this achievement recently with an SV hunter, Disc priest, and Prot warrior (all in roughly 359 gear). We tanked her on the opposite side of chamber's entrance (out of habit) and at 65% when she started her walk back, I (the hunter) positioned myself by one whelp tunnel and the tank / healer at the other. The second her feet lifted off the ground, we ran through the tunnels. I FD'd after pulling what I thought was enough whelps (ran about half way through it and the tank ran all the way through his) and they immediately went to the tank / healer. After some heavy AoE, we killed them and then Ony. :)

It is immensely helpful to have your healer stay with your tank during the whelp phase. One, it's quite a bit of damage and they can heal him incase the whelps become to much while running through the tunnel. Two, the tank can AoE taunt off the healer when they inevitably pull healing aggro while you're getting all the whelps together. Three, if you have a class that can drop aggro (such as a hunter), all the whelps they pull will all go to the same spot, rather than dispersing around the room to their various targets.

Happy achievement hunting!

Comentado por dlbert2000

We had so many whelps that my graphics card jumped out of my PC and slapped my mom

Comentado por MikadoGG

Two manned with a prot paladin (about 390 ilvl) and a pvp specced disc priest (in 402 ilvl shadow gear).

I, the priest, just smite spammed until we hit phase 2. He tanked Onyxia at one of the tunnel entrances only at an angle to not get knocked into it, and I stood closer to the other tunnel entrance. When she ran back and lifted her feet, we both ran into our respective tunnel entrances, ran halfway in, then I popped my engineering nitro boost (though the whelps dazed me so it didn't make a big difference).

Phase 2 actually took a LONG time with just my occasional smite dps on Onyxia, so it turned more into survival fight. Running oom a couple times was an issue between aoe, smiting and occasional heals on both of us. She breathed a lot but it barely hurts.

Overall, it only took one try so I'm sure with a better healing spec it's even easier.

Comentado por QFred

With a very ranged-rich group, we first tryed with popping them one-by-one, but then we used the strategy of having two players in each bridge side (the entrance of her area) and when she lifted, the players jumped. Then we nuked the drakes and killed the dragoness. And win it was.

Group of 83-85 level people, DK tank (could have been any), Druid healer (could have been any). No problems, one death (drakes).

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