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Comentado por 166113

These masks are given to you as a prize from "Trick or Treating" during the Hallow's End event.

Comentado por 84526

This will be difficult because the masks are not permanent, you won't be able to collect half one year then the rest the next.

Comentado por Flimflamdw

Once an item has been obtained, it is permanently counted. The item can therefore be destroyed and you will retain credit for it.

See his post on the beta forums here.

Comentado por XodoK

This achievement is no longer a part of "Hallowed Be Thy Name" meta-achievement.

Comentado por wodkalimes

and if you get a mask on an other character does it count as complete on other character 2 for the achievement?

Comentado por 130410

There aren't even Draenei or Blood Elf masks, so it's logical that this achievement is getting removed.

Comentado por Alma

I've verified with a junk alt that, once you obtain a mask, you can safely throw it away and still retain credit. This should be great news for anyone who doesn't want to waste 20 slots on garbage items just to obtain this achievement.

Comentado por shadow1515

I don't know what Blizz was thinking with this one. I trick or treated 11 times today and didn't get a single mask. It's entirely possible, and maybe even likely given the abysmal rate at which these seem to be obtained, that someone could literally trick or treat once per hour for the entire event and still not get the achievement. It should have been a feat of strength.

Comentado por Puggan

What is the droprate?

i did a simulation of 20 items whit 1% droprate each.
after 500 runs i got:

ok: 60.48% (20 items before time runs out = 15days * 24 hours = 360 trys)
average: 353.7
min: 117
max: 962

So almost imposible to do in one event/year.
Or is the droprate bigger?
wowhead saies 2% each from bag, but you don't get a bag every hour.

try it: http://test.tuffsruffs.se/test/masktest.php
code: http://test.tuffsruffs.se/test/masktest.phps

Comentado por merujo

Take a look at mrcollect's comment!
If u manage to do all the other achievements besides this one, u can get the title. Im much more pleased now, because getting all those masks is a super pita imo!

by Tigole:

3.0.3 will most likely happen during the event.

If you happen to fulfill all of the criteria with the exception of the 20 mask criteria before that patch goes live the achievement will stay incomplete until the day patch 3.0.3 goes live. As soon as the patch goes live, you'll have the achievement as well as the title.

Comentado por zingar

does anyone know for sure you cant get the same mask more than 1 time? i mean if you cant get the same mask more than 1 time, chances are WAY higher. i know in the past you could get the same mask many times but maybe that was changed?

Comentado por NovaDeez

You can definitely get the same mask multiple times. Just happened to me earlier today :'(

Comentado por FeyakGorale

What would have made this achievement work, would have been to change the wording on the achievement as well as the mask.

If the Achievement stated that you had to wear one of each of the masks, and made the masks BoE then people could trade their doubles.

Personally I believe that it should have been done this way, but *shrugs* oh well they are removing it anyway ^.^.

Comentado por 230164

How sure is everyone that it will be removed? I have everything else for "Hallowed Be Thy Name" (including two squashlings and three hallowed helms).
I trick or treat every hour, and since I have a young baby, when he wakes up at night, I quick log on and trick or treat then too. Also doing the dailies to get the crudely wrapped gift.
I only have 3 masks though, so if i keeps up like this, I will not get the achievement :(
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they take it out of the achievement requirements!

Comentado por 148082

I do not think that this achievement is possible in 2008. First of all, and this has been touched upon rather well by the posts above me, the chances of doing it during the holiday even if you don't sleep are pretty terrible.

But, more importantly, I have yet to hear of anyone getting a Blood Elf and Draenei mask through any anecdotal evidence; I'm pretty sure that they don't exist. If anyone has gotten a Blood Elf or Draenei mask, please correct me.

If I'm right, it's not just unlikely that you can do this achievement in 2008... it is downright impossible.

Comentado por zingar

making them boe would make this achievement more of a money inversion achievement than anything else, wouldnt really feel nice once you accomplished it. imo they should just make the masks unique or something so that you dont get the same mask many times, thats what makes this achievement so hard. also removing some of the lame things you can get in the treat bag would help :)

Comentado por Stigmata

I find it positively hilarious that people have to show off their math / probability skills, show it to us , and call it "simple"

I'm glad that they're removing this achievement, but the downside is that the title will be relatively common. I was hoping to actually have something special.

Comentado por 233118

just need 5 more. im missing both sexes of blood elf and draenei. has anyone else gotten these 4?

Comentado por 130927

omg, go do something usefull with that Algebra, dont waste it on Flimsy Masks

Comentado por Furydeath

Looks like they might be now, I just got a Flimsy Male Draenei Mask.

Comentado por 227387

blizz will remove this achivement

Comentado por 236622

I just got a bloodelf mask from trick and treating, looks like it is possible to complete during this year's hallow's end.

Comentado por scoOby

Draenei Female mask dropped today for me.... 5 days before ending
-updated: next day bring me Drenei Male mask
--updated2: hallow's end ended, dwarf-female, blood-elf-male, blood-elf-female left.. 17\20

Comentado por Stig

Seen a Draenei male mask drop on Nathrezim today.. seems like the items were added during the downtime.

Comentado por 237034

I did a markov-chain approach to calculate the expectation value for the number of tries instead.

Assume that all the masks have the same probability, and that the probability to get a mask at all is p.

The expected number of tries until an event with probability p happens is 1/p. Then we have 19/20 masks left and the probability to get another one is 19p/20 which would take in average 20/(19p) tries

Thus the expected time, t, to get all 20 masks is:

t=(20/20+20/19+...+20/2+20/1)/p=20/p*(1+1/2+...+1/20)=H20*20/p

Where H20 is the 20th harmonic sum which is about 3.6.

If p=0.3 we need in average about 240 tries, if instead it is 0.2 we need in average about 360 tries.

Comentado por t41n7ed

I just looted a Flimsy Female Draenei Mask about 5 minutes ago, I am on my laptop so I don't have the wowhead tool installed. It looks like it may be possible to complete this achievement. It would just be very hard to finish it this year.

Comentado por 237185

This achievement was fixed, I got one of the female Blood Elf masks yesterday. Will it still be removed as a requirement even though they fixed it? I mean I have been VERY religous about trick or treats as often as I can and still only have 12 out of 20 masks, this is a very hard achievement to obtain. And if it will still be removed as a requirement for "The Hallowed" surname will it be removed as a requirement to get the prototype drake mount once all seasonal achievements are completed?

Comentado por glyneth

The achievement itself is not being removed, but it will be taken out of the requirements for the meta achievement; getting the Hallowed Be Thy Name title.

Comentado por worlann

I too am stuck on trying to find the Blood Elf and Draenei masks. It would be nice if they added those last four to a vendor or remove them from the achievement, because their drop rate is extremely low compared to the others, if they exist at all.

Comentado por Nightster

so... correct its getting removed? sometime? because im almost done with this achievement XD i need to just get candy baskets and then ruin the hallows end for the horde and im done! yay!

Comentado por Colamisu

Finally got a Blood Elf Mask today... I guess they added them in the maintenance today?

Comentado por 131187

For final clarity. You would still have earned "A Mask for All Occasions" achievement for collecting all the masks. However, you do not have to get all the masks to complete "Hallowed Be Thy Name".

And I definitely got a female Draenei mask.

Comentado por clarkeyboy

I just wish the masks were tradable, would make this another fun event, albeit exploitable by gold !@#$%s. :(

Comentado por 94196

Has anyone gotten this achievement yet? :o

Comentado por Emsarrev

I just noticed that on the 4.2 PTR, they aren't called Flimsy Masks anymore. Also, they updated the achievement to include Worgen and Goblin masks, which changes the total masks needed from 20 to 24. Could this mean that they're changing this? If you look at the PTR version of the masks, they've become an item you can use to change your appearance instead of a mask that actually goes in your head slot.

Comentado por chrth

As of 4.2, you will be required to obtain 24 (up from 20) masks, as Male and Female Goblin and Worgen masks have been added. Those of us who only needed one more will now cry ourselves to sleep.

Comentado por centurio

According to the information for Gostosura Travessa now on US Battlenet, there will now be vendors which sell these masks for 2 Tricky Treats each, making the achievement infinitely easier. The vendors, Dorothy in SW and Chub in UC, will sell the masks, pets, Hallowed Helm and other items in exchange for Tricky Treats.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/33226#tab=currencyForItems

Comentado por 713221

Yup, this achievement has now been reduced to lolcat difficulty. Just finished a few dailies and I have enough masks to complete my achievement. Suddenly it doesn't feel like an achievement anymore :(

Comentado por Warrok

Handful of Treats also contains masks this year. The odds of getting one look pretty good so far (7 different masks after 19 opened).

Also note the masks are Unique as of 4.2 (contrary to the Flimsy Masks of 2008 - 2010). I haven't got a duplicate of a Mask I already have in my inventory. I did however get a duplicate of my first mask, since I destroyed/sold it before getting the next one.

Since there are now two new achievements for Hallow's End, namely Tricks and Treats of Northrend (Alliance / Horde) and Tricks and Treats of the Cataclysm (Alliance / Horde), you will probably want to get a lot of these anyway, so it may be worth your while.

So while some might feel trolled because the number of masks to get was upped from 20 to 24, this might alleviate obtaining this achievement significantly. Personally I was slightly upset last year, since I had 19 masks after 3 years of nonstop "farming" them.

Edit: Ok, apparently the achievement has been completely trivialized, by allowing players to purchase the masks. Apparently Blizzard figured this wasn't a fun holiday achievement.

Comentado por hefron

Vendor name is Farina (Horde) and you can find her at Undercity. Each mask cost 2 marks :) GL

Comentado por 268029

Wow, words cannot express how truly furious I am about this change.

Comentado por Mirrodin

I am quite happy about this change with the npcs selling the masks, i remember last years (2010) that you have to talk to an innkeeper every time your debuff was gone that was lasting for 1 hour with a chance to get your mask and i managed to get half of them without the need to skip sleeping or raids or whatever.
I am an achieve hunter but i don't care how i will get it and how hard it is as long as i get it, if it becomes easier then that's totally fine by me. :)

Comentado por Terbovus

Yoohoo!

Okay, they may have overdone it on making it too easy (maybe a revision to the purchase cost is in order), but at least now its achieveable. I've been farming the darn things for years and still had two (six with the new ones) to get, and was dreading missing the achieve again (its my last holiday achieve to get).

Comentado por 749936

All in all, I'm happy, I spent last year constantly trying to get all the masks and ended up with 11/20. Apparently that's not bad for one year, but now I can simply do the Northrend/Cata achieves and buy all of my lovely masks in one swift go. Perfect.

Comentado por Farelf

Being able to buy missing masks from the last two years, I was finally able to complete this achieve this morning.

Thanks Blizz.. I didn't think I would ever get those last 4 masks.

Comentado por Furydeath

Now it's like all the other achievements everyone has it.

Comentado por Terminton

If you have some Masks in bag, you won't get same from Punhado de Balas, or .

Comentado por Meralan

The mask vendor is called Spanky, and is located 6 yrds infront of Dorothy. Hard to see for all the mounted ppl, but he is there.

Comentado por 897086

Is this as well as the trick or treat buckets are both on your list of things to do, don't buy any masks until you've visited all the buckets you plan on visiting.

I ended up getting all the masks I needed from trick or treating and could use the candy on other stuff.

Comentado por coreycubed

There's another game which rewards you for collecting 24 unique masks with something far greater than 20 achievement points.

"You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?"

Comentado por Raaken

I see spy!

Comentado por PsychoBilli

I, for one, am greatful for the changes to this achievement. I remember the first Love is in the Air holiday, where you had to check with Inn Keepers every hour in order to complete the meta. After that, I wound up leaving the game for a couple months because logging in every hour to ensure I'd complete it was just brutal. Forcing us to do the same for all the masks was just as bad, even if the achievement wasn't required for the meta. It was still there, still taunting me.

Now, if I could just convince myself that School of Hard Knocks isn't as bad as I build it up in my mind I'd be set.

Comentado por Solidiquis

For those searching in WotLK classic - yes, you can delete the masks after getting them.

I have been pretty lucky so far and gotten 10 unique masks out of the 20 without any doubles, but I am fairly sure it is possible get the same mask multiple times from memory, which will make this achievement pretty difficult for most people to get before the event ends.

EDIT - Yeh, just got my 11th mask and it was a duplicate of one of the 10 I already had. so def a difficult one to get in 1 year.

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