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Comentado por 149888

Is the Grand Black War Mammoth in game? The vendor only sells the regular 1-person one.

Comentado por 39966

If this mount has drop chance 0.5% like any other rare mount, then your average time to get this achievement (and accordingly, the Wintergrasp meta achievement) is 1/(0.5/100/10*50) = 40 years, assuming you run it regularly every week... Sounds like fun!

Comentado por 202165

Agree, change to a feat of strength.

The Brewfest mount annoys me enough being an achievment, the fact i have it on 2 alts and not my main...sigh.

Comentado por 250100

anyone mind posting a pic of what this looks like?

Comentado por Cendrin

Fail, fail and more fail

The drop CHANCE might be 0.5% but that doesn't mean it drops once every 3-4th year.. lol.. its about luck.
And yes, this drops on both heroic and normal VoA.

No, it's success. He did say average.

Assuming a drop chance of 0.5% on both normal and heroic, you have a 99.5% chance of not seeing it drop on any given run. Thus if you run Vault of Archavon 100 times in a given year (out of 104 opportunities in most years), you have a 60.5% chance of not seeing it drop even once in that year. If you only run it 50 times, your chance of never seeing it that year is about 77.8%.

What this means is that if you kill Archavon as often as possible, you still only have about a 40% chance of seeing a mammoth drop in any given year. If you only run normal - or only Heroic - it's less than 25%. Given these numbers, it's reasonable to expect that - on average - you'll only see one drop every 2 to 4 years. If the grandparent was under the impression it drops only in heroic, then 40 years isn't an unreasonable estimate at all.

The "chance" of winning Powerball on a single ticket is roughly 0.0000006844%. That doesn't mean a ticket only wins every few thousand years - it's about luck. It does, however, mean that you probably won't ever win.

This definitely deserves to be a Feat of Strength, and not connected to the Wintergrasp Meta Achievement.

Comentado por jaxsonbateman

Atm this achievement isn't really justifiable by Blizz, as it tends to fly in the face of the precedent they've set with other rare mounts (Feats of Strength, and not worth any achievement points). However, Blizz doesn't always go with the logical option...

THAT SAID, I couldn't help but notice that there are two 'item not found' versions of the Grand Black War Mammoth listed as criteria for this achievement. Perhaps at some point in the future it will be added to the WG vendor for a huge amount of shards (say, 2k). One can dream...

Comentado por 316757

W00t just got mine today rolled a 99 for it, i must say it is SICK!

Comentado por 21278

I've only seen one of these mounts. Most of the top achievement people don't even have this achievement. I've never seen it drop. No one in my guild has it. I did finally see one player with them in a battleground. This achievement is sadly near impossible. I have almost all the achievements but this one.

Comentado por Norina

Quote from Blizzard staff

Grand Black War Mammoth

I just removed this from the "Master of Wintergrasp" meta achievement earlier today. It was just too rare to be included in the meta. Don't worry though, we still have the Grand Black War Mammoth achievement on its own. =) This change will go live with 3.1.0.

Comentado por veno3

This achievement will become a Feat of Strength in 3.1. As mentioned above, it has also been removed from the Meta.

Source

Comentado por 342789

how to get it?

Comentado por XKingMega

This achievement IS now a Feat of Strength. As of patch 3.1, the Grand Black War Mammoth is OFFICIALLY a Feat of Strength.

Comentado por 358247

Just got one as a drop off Archavon the Stone Watcher during a 25 man.

Comentado por 360570

Only Feat of Strength to give Achievment Points.

Comentado por 250295

i got mine 10 mins ago from a voa 10man. Its on feat on Strength

Comentado por easterhat

This dropped for me a few days ago but no achievement was granted. A GM ticket resulted in the following email:

"The information you supplied has been added to our own. We thank you for taking the time to report this matter, and we appreciate your dedication towards making the World of Warcraft the best possible game it can be."

Still no achievement...

Comentado por 233449

I just got this mount a day ago, yet there was no achievement to go with it. Perhaps it's bugged or something, but I'll wait and see.

Comentado por PMV25

Just won it, no achievement either. Hope it's just bugged, I like achievements ;-\

Comentado por seizure507

i revcieved the mount today and as well i did not recieve the achievement

Comentado por 463435

I won the roll for this mount today after downing Koralon on a guild run, first time I had been to VoA in months and no achievement. A second one dropped after downing Emalon and one of our healers won the roll for that one.

Comentado por xylotism

This just dropped for me as well... had a few victory laps with some of the group around Wintergrasp Fortress... didn't even know there was an achievement for it.

Comentado por 286193

the mount droped today i lost it but then bought it for 1k gold:P but i dont have achievement:(

Comentado por nimerod

I think the drop rated has been raised,2 drops on 10 man voa,and droped for another guild member same day and i heard ppls on trade chanel about some1 ninjaed this in same day.

Comentado por seizure507

well a gm finally got ahold of me and i got the achievement today when i got the mount 2 months ago

Comentado por 288335

I just spoke to a GM and he told me it is going to be fixed in 3.3 so you will all receive your feats of strength eventually. :)

Comentado por 408955

Thx guys for posting these i like you won the mount with a roll of 100 but got no achiev so when i came on here and seen your comments i opened a ticket (: just waiting for a GM reply now. thx again ^^

Comentado por ziberia

Won the mount with a roll of 27 and did not recieve any FoS. Since i'm a guy who loves to flex i made a ticket and apperently this is bugged and will be fixed in 3.3.

Comentado por Galkura

obtained the mount11-28-09, with no achievement

I believe Blizzard might have taken this achievement out simply because of the fact it is becoming much more common, with what I believe is an upped drop-rate, and the fact that there are currently 3, soon to be 4 bosses in VoA

Comentado por 160546

Never seen so many deleted comments.

Anyway, to give out some happy news, I received my Grand Black War Mammoth on 12/12/09. I got this achievement after using the item. It's pretty obvious this was implemented to prevent people from just passing it around for the feat of strength.

Proof: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Hakkar&cn=Aregine&gn=SQUIDS+SIPPIN+SIZZURP

Comentado por 3467

So as this is a feat of strength post-cataclysm does that mean it cannot be obtained anymore; or does that mean it is really rare?

Comentado por 796087

The Reins for this mount are attainable for 2000 Honor points from the Wintergrasp Quartmaster Stone Guard Mukar Guarda Pétreo Mukar as of this writing. There is one for Horde and one for Alliance. No worries about rolls on these mounts. Just save up your HP and you are golden! Hope this helps and sets some minds at ease! If my link didn't work, just please search the quartermaster for Wintergrasp. Have fun!

Comentado por ezek86

Will this become account bound in pandaria?

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