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illepic의 댓글

Can we get confirmation that we get credit for these Feats of Strength if we have completed these objectives in WoW 1.0 (ie "pre-BC")? Or do we have to do them over again once Wrath is released? Please post a link to the confirmation.

172242의 댓글

You will only receive credit for this particular achievement if you still have the item when Wrath of the Lich King is released. Source: Tigole.

129920의 댓글

IMO this should give the title, ", Hand of Ragnaros".

324790의 댓글

Got it with my Pala :/ Fruchtikus Eu Onyxia :X

http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ragibt7.jpg

Slanyou의 댓글

I just Achived this one, and its not "hard" in lvl 80 i could had soloed if i had some holy gear (im a prot pally), anyway GL to all those who still thinks its an awesome wep :P pre tbc i could'nt had gotten it cuz i was a mage back then ^^

Took a cpl of weeks after i got the "Eye of Sulfuras" but i traded some "Core Leather" for some ingots and it went faster :)

The link to the movie where i create it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyyawk-w51g&feature=channel_page..

sneakysam의 댓글

The Eye of Sulfuras just dropped for my hunter, obviously I cannot equip this (being a mace), but i'm curious if this still counts when I create it? Can anyone confirm if you NEED to equip it?

Edit: Just made it, I can confirm the achievement still counts fortunately, no need to equip.

420671의 댓글

Do u still get the feat if u put it together in WOLK?

Xe4ro의 댓글

I think they changed it. I got this on my Druid and i HAD to Equip the Mace. No Achievement for have it in the inventory.

212613의 댓글

its bop anyway, so, once u equip it, you should get it then change weaps if u want.

420671의 댓글

Dammit i have all the mats for this right now exept the !@#$ing orange orb thing that rag drops i nee tha before the expansion and w/the way raiding MC is going now i wont have it anytime soon

227934의 댓글

you can get achievment without equipping it.
proof: Bury, Gnome mage: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Burning+Legion&cn=Bury&gn=FiRe+of+DUNE

Gogetaex의 댓글

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Llane&n=Gogetaex (This is my armory, duh . Just showing I do NOT have the achievement, and am not randomly trolling.)
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9029/picture1yr.png (This is to prove I have the mace, again, not randomly trolling.)
http://img38.imageshack.us/i/gmtellsmeigetsulfurasac.png/ (This is a GM informing me that I would get the achievement upon creation of the item)

Waiting... and hoping I get my achievement.

LSavage의 댓글

Your friend should write a ticked saying that other GM told him he will get the achi upon creation and waht now?

Suggesting that someone lie to a GM to try and get an achievement is BAD advice. Every conversation you have with a GM is recorded in the logs, and GMs can check the logs, so lying to them about what another GM said is likely to ruin any chance you have of success.

One can understand how Blizzard could have sympathy for someone who went to the effort to get all the materials only to discover that their effort was wasted because when he asked a GM to clear up an ambiguity (ie owning vs equipping) the GM made a mistake. But if a person knew up front that the achievement would not be possible, or didn't think to ask, then I would say it was silly of that individual to try.

If a GM has already told you "No" then it is your own problem if you still go ahead and go to all the effort of getting the item. Likewise if you have visited this page, then you should also know that this achievement is not supposed to be possible if you cannot equip a mace. What BuRY did is fine, because he did actually ask a GM first, and the GM mistakenly told him he would get the achievement when he crafted the item. But anyone who takes his advice now is knowingly using that exploit. The fact that he has posted how he inadvertently exploited the system should not be viewed as an invitation for all and sundry to try to do the same, and the likely outcome will be that Blizzard will come out with a firm policy of "No" and possibly even remove the achievement from the individual who posted the exploit in the first place.

Those who still want to try to get the achievement in this manner should realise that the more people who do so, the more likely it will be that the situation will be ruined for everyone, and quite possibly for someone who genuinely deserves the achievement.

BuRYGnome의 댓글

Bottom line is that Blizzard is under no obligation to award the achievement to anyone who cannot equip the item themselves. Lets be honest here, it should be obvious that one has to equip the mace in order to earn the achievement (you only truly "own" an item once it is bound to you). Otherwise people could simply pass the hammer around to all and sundry, trivialising the achievement.

Once the item is created it's soulbounded. Other thing. At this point when nobody is farming MC anymore like it used to be in old times getting all the mats might be harder now than doing "The Undying" Achievement for example. To all that, looting the item from Ragnaros needed to combine it with Hammer is pretty damn hard. I've been doing MC since vanilla wow and I've seen only two Eyes droped. One at the end of Vanilla Wow and second few months ago for me. So I doubt ppl around the world could get it fast and easy. Aslo, why is it exploit if GM's knew I am a Mage when they told me I will be granted Achievement? Maybe the one I met had that - One can understand how Blizzard could have sympathy for someone who went to the effort to get all the materials

496444의 댓글

Will this weapon also drop from ragnaros in cataclysm? Could be awesome if it was reborn so ppl realises how hard it is to get

BuRYGnome의 댓글

In 3.3 Patch it was changed from "Owner of..." to "Wielder of.."

Edit: This mean you cannot get this achievement granted by Game Master as the achievement state you have to equip it, not be only an owner of..

LSavage의 댓글

why is it exploit if GM's knew I am a Mage when they told me I will be granted Achievement?

As I said, it is an inadvertent exploit, ie you didn't realise you were exploiting a GM's ignorance. As far as I am concerned, you do deserve the Feat of Strength because you did your due diligence. You asked the question in innocence and were mislead by the first GM (even if unintentionally). Its not your fault that you were falsely led to believe your efforts would result in the reward, so I wholeheartedly agree with the second GM who held Blizzard to their word.

However if another person, after reading this thread, tried to do the same thing, that would be an intentional attempt to exploit a GM.

So kudos to you for getting your Feat of Strength, but I would chalk it up to a bit of good fortune were I you :)

371077의 댓글

I made the mace in 3.3 and you definitely will not recieve this achievement now if you cannot equip it.

DarkElfIT의 댓글

As the above poster said, after 3.3 you can only get this achievement if you can equip it. I had the eye prior on my warlock (i'm an achievement junkie), but could not finish crafting it until after 3.3 due to lack of mats. No Achievement.

420671의 댓글

I already have the mace crafted and ready to go, does anyone know the drop chance of the eye?

dreadblood의 댓글

any idea why it has 2 links under criteria?

Lulleh의 댓글

To make things Clear.

http://img576.imageshack.us/i/handofragnaros.jpg/

As you can see I did not get the Achievement the same moment I got the Legendary created, I had to equip it.
Yes, I'm a Warrior so it's possible only those who cannot use Twohanded maces gets the achievement upon creating it.

Date: 5th of June, 2010.

553695의 댓글

Death Knights, Warriors, Shamans, Paladins, and Druids are the only classes who can receive this achievement. Before 3.3.0 It was owner but now its Wielder. So must equip it to get it. Just wanted to clarify on the classes who could get it.

Paperdolls의 댓글

So, Im a priest who just made this a few days ago...
I can verify that you have to be able to EQUIP this item.
What a shame. Right now, besides Val'anyr, Hammer of the Ancient Kings, there are NO legendary items a priest can obtain and get a Feat for.

Paulosio의 댓글

I recently completed the mace on my hunter and after all the effort and expense of getting the mats together it's a real kick in the teeth not to be able to get the feat of strength. Last i'd heard you only needed to "own" the mace to get the feat... but as others have said here, you actually need to equip it. Going to try and get my mats back via gm ticket as I have a druid alt with eye of sulfuras but i'm not optimistic that the GM's will do such a thing for me.

If I can't recover the mats I suppose i'll just store the mace in the bank in case blizzard takes pity on all us fools so that we can get the feat without equipping or in case hunters are ever allowed to equip 2 handed maces. Both highly unlikely scenarios.

Lmory의 댓글

Last tuesday I went into MC as usual, running through the bosses as usual... But then it happened. I got my second binding from Garr! I went into a state of satisfaction of wich i've never felt before.
I pressed on, looking in my bags through the entire time. Then... As I killed Ragnaros... Yeah, you geussed it right, the Eye dropped too! I bow down to the WoW-gods, and thank them.

Anyway, what I wanted to say was that, for the guild achievement, you don't need to wear the item, but for the Feat of Strength you need to be able to equip it.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/haomarush/a%C3%AD/simple - click on recent activity and you'll see I got both legendarys withing the time of a few hours. (sadly it wont say when I looted the binding and the eye)

Conclusion, if you're after the Guild Achievement, ANYONE in the guild can get it, if you're after the Feat of Strength, only those who CAN EQUIP the item can get it.

764631의 댓글

You'll have to equip the legendary to get the guild achievement, or maybe 설퍼라스 - 라그나로스의 손 is an exception because me and some friends got 아지노스의 전투검 from Illidan but none of us could equip it so we just rolled and a hunter got it and we did NOT get the guild achievement

drujt의 댓글

You will get the guild achievement without equiping it.

968815의 댓글

i wish i was smart i farmed till i got eye and hammer now realising hunters cant equip plz blizzard change it bak so its on owner not weilder plz

447611의 댓글

I was doing the last MC run I needed to hit exalted with the Hydraxian Waterlords today and the Eye of Sulfuras dropped. I was so happy to finally see a legendary in my bags....until I found out that it is for a 2H mace which I cannot use since I am a priest. I contacted a GM to get confirmation if I had to equip the completed legendary to obtain the Feat of Strength or if I simply had to have it in my bags. Prior to 3.3, it simply had to be in my bags, however, you MUST equip the completed mace to obtain credit for your Feat of Strength.

Out of curiosity, I also asked if there are ANY suggestions the GM had for me besides letting it collect dust in my bank or deleting it (which I do not have the heart to do). The GM replied to "Taunt players who need it. Wait, that would be mean." When I replied, "It cannot possibly be more mean than Blizz's RNG letting a legendary drop for a person who cannot use it" to which I got no response.

P.S. According to the GM, "there is no Achievement department" either if you are curious. Best thing I can suggest, is put in a suggestion ticket asking the achievement be changed back to "Owner" like it was prior to patch 3.3. If you are lucky enough to have this drop AND you can use the mace, Gratz! If you are one of the poor souls like myself who cannot use this, just hope you did not use all your luck on this drop. It's extremely unfortunate a legendary drop has to go to waste like this.

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