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Comment by harkonadin

This is the tankadin weapon that protection paladins have been waiting for since 2.1 for the end game tanking without having to compete against the unhappy mages and warlocks for all the high spell damage swords (which all seem to have useless +spell crit except the one from archimonde).

Tons of stamina, spell hit, spell damage and a nice fast attack speed make this ideal for tankadins everywhere.

Also good for shadow priests.

Comment by Reeve

Our Hyjal tankadin was saving arena points for the Merciless spell damage mace, but once he sees this he'll be happy as a clam.

Comment by ZombiePope

This is basically a mace version of Naj'entus' dagger, The Maelstrom's Fury. In comparison:

Same 141 ilevel, same 236 spellpower
Same 33 Stamina
Very similar Int (22 vs. 21)
22 spellhit instead of 22 spellcrit

Comment by oioichuck

This item was introduced in patch 2.2 and drops from Battle for Hyjal and Black Temple 'trash'.

Comment by 83740

Am I stupid in thinking most shadowpriests would actually prefer the Najentus-dagger over this mace? As far as I know the average shadowpriest is already at the hitrating cap with talents, and as such crit would be much more useful than additional hit.

Comment by NightmareMJ

Can anyone post a screenshot of this with 'Sunfire' https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=22560 enchant on it?

Comment by silenius1

best tanakdin weapon ever

Comment by 16645

This is the *best* shadowpriest weapon you can get at Mount Hyal / Black Temple level of raiding.

As someone said, if you have surplus +hit, you can remove those talents from Shadow Focus and put them somewhere else, like into 3 points needed for Silence (not a "raiding talent" but very handy for that occasional PvP or grinding).

Comment by Freedomstone

This is the highest lvl weapon with the least amount of base damage :>

Comment by 98254

I got this last night, the spell hit is very nice. I was thinking of getting the BT dagger however upon second thought, this is better. It allows allocation of talent points else where.

Expect competition from Protadins and Elemental shamans :).

-Amród, Shadow priest.

Comment by Bufe

If you are a moonkin....or have moonkin as sidespec, this mace is the best choice you can get.
The spell hit is awsome. The spell damage is awsome...
Get a sweet offhand to go with it...and you are uber..

Comment by Moltare

Looks like one of those wooden things you serve honey with.

Only, shinier.

Comment by 130368

Will you guys please stop crying about this being SP loot or Tankadin loot or whatever.

In my guild we have a policy that generally speaking loot goes to someone who is willing to pay the DKP (first and foremost) and to whoever the item is a big upgrade for.

Unless your guild is full of ninja officers or doesn't want to make progress then the same thing is likely in your guild.

I am a Paladin and if a shadow priest asked it of me I would pass this weapon without a second thought, because I know 2 things:

*Its gonna drop again....
*If he has asked me to pass it then it must be a big upgrade for him and upgrades for him mean better dps on the raid which = more dead bosses which means access to better loot for all.
*Its gonna drop again....

Oh and Masterloco who are you Kidding LOLOL if you are a prot paladin and you consider this weapon a waste re-roll mate rofl...

Comment by durenas

2 of these dropped in our first night in Hyjal. Yeah, I don't think loot priority is gonna be a problem.

Comment by 144794

Does this drop in BT also or only MH?

Comment by 148072

to Skotinos:

lol that really sucks, we're only 3/5 hyjal and we've gotten 5 of these things. they wont stop dropping! now our paladin tank, both our shadow priests, and both our boomkins (yes thats right we have 2 boomkins) all have this thing. we really don't have anyone else to give it to, next one is probably going to our resto shammy for elemental off spec

Comment by 128037

Looks friggin hideous. What were they thinking??

Comment by 146445

*Its gonna drop again....

less than 1% drop rate, don't hold your breath

Comment by 166823

Just picked this item up from learning trash fights in hyjal, First try. very happy, what was great tho is when it dropped, the raid had 0 shadow priests, 0 boomkins, 0 elemental shammys and one tankadin(me:D). for some odd reason, i guess warlocks can wield maces now (No you cant) and had two of them roll against me on it, still won it (loot master wasnt retarted) and they had the balls to complain about it. kinda got the "you're a tank, thats not a tank weapon" reaction, which goes to show, most people dont understand tankadin gear choices, and especially in this case, not even there own toons.

great stats, lame color.

Comment by Bakhoj

This is a nice mace, i just got it on my S-priest and i can tell it is a great boost not just for the dmg+ but also i can now shift out some of my +dmg/+hit gems and get pure +dmg gems.
Nice choice for a S-priest, but also for others that can use +dmg mace.

Comment by 105782

Strangely... As a prot pally I prefer the Zul Aman mace becuase it hits faster and only has 19 less spelldmg.
Pallys hit slowly enough anyway. With the Zul Aman mace I can stack up my venagence DOT faster and actually have slightly higher tps exept during AoE. This mace is nice in Hyjal for the trash. Though I still prefer my Zul Aman hammer for bosses and non-AoE trash.

And yeah it drops all the time. We had 3 drops before Rage last night... If you want it you'll probably get it on your first run.

Comment by 177280

We had two drop for us today in Hyjal our part time protadin got the first, and I got the second. Not a bad piece to be perfectly honest. I replaced my badge dagger with this, and the 22 hit is worth the loss of 11 spell damge (technically 12.5 if you want to factor in the loss of int due to the spell damage talent moonkin get).

Definitely a fantastic upgrade thanks to it letting me free up some other gear slots for non-hit items, and now I can finally move some haste into my build. I certainly recommend it to any other raiding moonkins who want a little more flexibility.

The Maelstrom's Fury dropped for me the week before in BT, and I passed on it, and now I'm kind of glad, as I would've ended up replacing it with this item anyway. Crit just doesn't weigh as heavily as it used to back in the T4 days.

I do think protadins should get prefence on this item regardless though, the badge dagger is very comparable to this item and paladin's just don't have the option to go for that. The ZA hammer is arguably better/equivalent as well, but really if the protadin is one of your top three tanks in the raid, it's going to do everyone a lot more good for them to have it.

But, that's something for your Loot Council/DKP System to decide in the end.

Comment by 39966

The low drop rate is listed becau
se many people did Hyjal before this item existed and there is a LOT of trash mobs that get killed everyday. Hyjal was added in 2.1, and this item was added in 2.2.

Actually the drop rate for this item is much less than listed. We have been doing Hyjal with our guild for a month already, in which time we killed roughly 1500-2000 trash mobs. The hammer hasn't dropped once. If the stated drop rate was correct then the probability of not having a single mace is 0.0006% - 0.00001%.

There could be several reasons why the drop rate is listed higher than it actually is: first, not all mobs there drop anything at all, such mobs will not be taken into account when calculating probability. Second reason is possible incorrect handling of loot when it is on group (or master loot). Since "epic" loot can be seen by anybody while common loot (coins, cloth, etc) is visible to one person only, it leads to artificial inflation of drop rates.

Comment by 182068

Dont be egoist and pass this to ur friend tankadin. I did it as a shadowpriest because its not really worth it - my weapon was https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=34611 with a +12 spell gem - 215 spelldmg versus 22 spell hit and 235 spell dmg guess what? it dropped off from the next day! And casters such boomkins ele shamans and spriests have the dagger option from BT anyway and paladins have to struggle with mages and warlocks for Tempest of Chaos or wait a long time to get the mace of Brutallus.. It drops really fast 2 holy priest and 2 holy pala have it :P

Comment by patrikman

It is just for female players and 4% ppl- IT IS PINK!

Comment by 196076

On my tankadin i have the Sunward Crest. Should i get this mace and the Merciless Gladiator´s Barrier? I don´t know which shield is better for me.

Comment by 220510

Hy! I think this mace drops in Black Temple,becouse the Atlas show it's an BT and Hyjal Trash drop.(sorry for bad english :) )
plz reply

Comment by 124740

Looks like this weapon will no longer be a good paladin tanking weapon when the new patch hits.

Comment by 355492

So glad I saved this in my bank, long before transmog was announced. I've run hyjal on my alts and I've never seen this drop again. Good luck. There's some classes that can solo this.. you could reset the trash

Comment by shiroman1

This weapon does not show enchants.

Comment by xXJonoXx

For the purpose of Transmogrification, this weapon DOES NOT show Power Torrent when you apply it to a weapon that has it.

Comment by 507224

Warning to those thinking of farming this for xmog. Make sure the destination weapon for this beauty is a MAIN HAND mace. I spent a long time farming this, in order to pair it with Shield of the Wayward Footman on my tank, only to notice that I couldn't use it on my one-handed mace. Adding insult to injury I did discover that the xmog is possible the other way around. :(

Comment by Allakhazam

Drops from Hyjal Trash

Comment by Allakhazam

Was asked to come to a... Hyjal PUG the other day, and while it took us 4 full attempts to see Boss 1, the epics that dropped in the waves before the boss made it worthwhile. Someone got a nice tanky cloak that luckily I did not win, several epic patterns, about 12 Heart of Darkness, a Fist Weapon then this dropped and I was able to roll seeing I lost the cloak roll, and won on my Prot Pally. The Trash waves are fairly easy early on but when the Abominations come out everyone has to be on the ball (especially the healers, and the tanks). There was a few Moonkin and Shadow Priests in the grp too, and Holy Priests and other Pallys that were after a better DPS Set weapon (it was a PUG, so everyone who could use it rolled regardless of spec).

This is a complete upgrade minus weapon speed, over the amani punisher. It is 2 tenths slower, at 1.8 instead of 1.6, but the higher spell damage, int, hit, and sta make it worthwhile I feel.

Happy Trash Killing :)

Edited, Apr 20th 2008 9:18am by Zorza

Comment by Thottbot

Drops from Hyjal trash.

Comment by Thottbot

Blizzard just might as well rename this "Paladin Tanking Mace" Id like some defense stats, but the +spell hit is really nice.

Atleast now theres and upgrade to look forward to after the gladiator mace. :D

Comment by Thottbot

According to Blizzard's Armory it has an extreme low drop rate..but dropped twice last night in hijal.

Comment by Thottbot

Got mine tonight in Hyjal trash, best item ever :)

Balance druid @ Drak'Thul

Comment by Thottbot

WHY BLIZZARD WHY? They make the best pally wep in the game pink! The hell with them!

Comment by Thottbot

guys just cool down its a huntar waepn and you all know it

Comment by Thottbot

Yah, nice for anyone who can use heavy spell damage weapon. As a balance druid, the hit is nice too 'cause my other prime gear is just a little light on hit. With a 1% droprate off mobs we expect to see a lot of every week, I'm thinking it will turn up pretty regularly. I'm in line too :) The first went to our elemental shammy (grats!) and one will probably go to our pally tank too, although he has the sword from Leo (I think) which is also awesome for pally tank as well. This hammer makes a nice, flexible alternative for those who can't use the mage/lock swords for sure. At least when I'm in moonkin form the bright pink lollipop graphic shouldn't show lol

Comment by Thottbot

This is clearly a paladin tank weapon. Other classes can have good use for it as well but i believe it was mainly created for a paladin (It's pink!). Even the name indicates it.. "Hammer Of Judgement". What could sound more paladinish?

Comment by Thottbot

Rather have tempest chaos the lock sword better threat gen

Comment by Thottbot

Dropt for me in our First MH run.
Also Claw of Molten Fury Dropted.
Awsome Night for the guild :)

Best Tankadin Waepon in Game <3

Comment by Thottbot

eh no doubt pally wep , and ill make the arguement to shut up all the shadow priests, BADGE LOOT the dagger ( which pally's cant use ) is able to b bought for u for 150 badges , ( now if ur gonna cry bout spending 150 badges stop now )b/c if u made it to hyjal and u find it hard well go cry, and for all u noobs that still aint convinced ( ya "aint" make fun of me grammar trolls) HYJAL RELIES ON PALLY TANKS , i always hear bout how im needed , i rarely hear them say man im sure glad we had that shadow priest to aoe tank the mobs and keep agro on em all ( yes u give the healers mana so b a good shadow priest farm badges and get ur dagger which has more spell dmg so u can give ur healers more mana ,ya less spell hit so jus take one for the team)

Comment by Thottbot

My guild had 1 drop one night and then 6 yes SIX of these drop in one run last night. Our guild website now has a picture with 5 of the people all wielding them in front of Lady Proudmores area. It was getting pretty hilarious after about the 4th one.

http://afflictionguild.guildlaunch.com/guild/library/gallery/2430/wowscrnshot_042808_2341312249.jpg

Comment by Thottbot

I am a Paladin tank on the Hyjal realm, currently 3/4 TK, 5/6 SSC, and 3/5 in Hyjal. I say this so that you understand my experience and that I am not pulling this out of my arse.

There is plenty of debate as to which class should receive this item if it drops, here are the facts:

This mace is PRIMARILY a Paladin tank weapon for a few reasons:
1) The way a Paladin tank is geared, their weapon is the main source of threat. Approximately 58% of my spell damage comes from my weapon (without raid buffs).
2) The high stamina value
3) Spell hit helps a Tankadin maintain their threat by reducing the chance that their threat generating spells will miss, thus increaising TPS.
4) Paladins can use swords, maces, and axes. We cannot use daggers. Of all the loot in Hyjal, BT, and SWP, This and the Tempest of Chaos are the only two choices for a Tankadin. However, because Paladin tanks do not rely on crit, and require spell hit and stamina more, this is the prime choice. Pre-Hyjal, your Tankadin should have the Amani Punisher from ZA.
5) For your caster DPS, there's Tempest of Chaos (Archimonde), The Maelstrom's Fury( Naj'entus), The Nexus Key (TK's Kael), Scryer's Blade of Focus (Sunwell BoJ reward), Amani Divining Staff (ZA, reward chest), Wub's Cursed Hexblade (ZA, Jan'Alai). Plenty of other gear that competes with or beats this mace.
6) The name of the item is "Hammer of Judgement". Paladins have "Hammer of Justice" and "Hammer of Wrath", as well as "Judgement" spells. The name infers that the item is related to and intended for the Paladin class.

I am not saying that other classes should not be allowed to compete for this with w/e loot system you use, but priority should be given to a Paladin tank. If it's an upgrade for a spriest, they can always wait for the second one to drop. On top of this, your tank's threat is more important than your DPS, because improved threat means improved DPS.

Comment by Thottbot

Ya Im a pally tank and i took this mace from a shadow priest he got so pissed that i got it he gquited haha

Comment by Thottbot

Heh. I got this mace tonight. Second in the guild, too. I raid ret and the first one went to our MT (who is a prot pally). Offspec rolled against a holy priest ^_^

Looking into respeccing prot, now.

Comment by Thottbot

Jesus, does Blizzard have to make the tankadin weapon names more obvious? I bet Blizzard would have to name a weapon, "Judgement of the Holy Consecration Shield" and some SP or Boomkin would still take it from THE TANK spamming G chat saying "Get a def wep noob pally." http://www.wowwiki.com/Stats_and_Numbers_-_Magical_Resistances

Leave it to all the idiot noobs to think that all we need is Def and Stamina. If we wanted to be able to tank only one mob at once we would have rolled warriors. No we wanted versatility, and if we are good that entitles us some good gear. We deserve some good stuff. And the more aggro we are able to hold, the less the Healers and DPS have to worry and the more DPS they can dish out.

We have to wait for freakin' ever to get a good weapon, the dps can wait just as long.

Comment by Thottbot

Dropped tonight. People started rolling, and since I had just won Chestguard of Relentless Storms before I didn't know if I was allowed to roll. Everyone who rolled was for off-spec except me. GM rolls 100, I roll next highest being 89, but at that point it had already gone to GM =(

He whispered and said to roll faster since it should have gone to me =P

At least I got my chest.

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Hammer of Judgement

Item Level 141
Binds when picked up

Main Hand	Mace

126 - 235 Damage	Speed 1.80

(100.28 damage per second)
+50 Stamina
Durability 105 / 105

Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves hit rating by 22.
Equip: Increases spell power by 295.

Sell Price: 13 48 67

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