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Commento di 3629

Go to http://www.wowwiki.com/Twin_Emperors for a great tactic how to kill these guys.

Commento di Smorfty

Hunter specific tips:
- In my guild we have a warlock to pull caster-twin and a hunter to pull physical-twin
- Pull with aimed shot to get aggro (distracting shot won't work on him) and so that you don't loose aggro to healers
- When you've run over to mt use detecence if you have it (and aspect of the monkey ofc)
- When mt has hit the twin at least 2 times (preferably 3) you can feign death and join the others
- No aimed shots after 5 sec warning to teleport, aimed shots might go off, follow the twin after his teleport and you'll aggro him right away
- NO MULTISHOT! remove it from your bar, even I have pressed it by mistake after having downed them about 6 times
- Only aimed shot and rapid fire are any good to cast here while nuking
- Hunters run right after teleport, not when melee'ers run

Commento di 74126

looks like the final boss in Phantasy Star Online 2 the general

Commento di Vlad

Twin Emperors, Emperor Vek'lor (sounds)

"It's too late to turn away."
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorItsTo0Late.wav")
"Like a fly to the web!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorLikeAFly.wav")
"My brother, no!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorMyBrother.wav")
"Prepare to embrace oblivion!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorPrepareTo.wav")
"To decorate our halls!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorToDecorate.wav")
"You will not escape death!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorYouWillnot.wav")
"Your brash arrogance!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorYourBrash.wav")

Twin Emperors, Emperor Vek'nilash (sounds)

"Ah, lambs to the slaughter!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashAhLambs.wav")
"Join me brother, there is blood to be shed!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashJoinMe.wav")
"Let none survive!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashLetNone.wav")
"Look brother, fresh blood!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashLookBrother.wav")
"Shall be your undoing!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashShallBe.wav")
"Vek'lor, I feel your pain!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashVeklorIFeel.wav")
"Your fate is sealed!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashYourFate.wav")

Commento di 51372

A very fun fight that gets everyone involved. There was a very big sense of accomplishment from any guild that could down these folks. The fight consisted of mad amounts of DPS, extreme sense of raid-oriented-coordination, very skilled healers that could tell who needed heals, and requires everyone to pay attention.

Commento di viva

One of the most skill sensitive boss fights I've seen. Do not attempt with PuGs unless you know they are commited.

Good tip if you are pugging/haven't done - have two pallies at both sides and have them consecrate every 25 seconds so upon teleport there is damage ticking on the caster or the melee boss. This at least helps hold them there.

Commento di Ralanost

Both emperor's are impossible for a death knight or a paladin to tank as they tank with a mixture of physical and magical damage. Meaning that your threat is less than half of what it should be. That means that the most either can do in this encounter is to deal with the bug adds.

Commento di Moonking1983

He'll be back...oh yes...he will.

Commento di nyctric

First defeated by Vodka of Mannoroth on the 29th of January, 2006.

Commento di Bullfrogg

Vek'nilash makes his triumphant return as a boss in the Trail of Champions!
He can be summoned while fighting Argent Confessor Paletress.

Commento di Lmjkdd6

Yes, Vek'nilash is one of the possible memories that can be summoned by Argent Confessor Paletress in Trial of the Champion, released in patch 3.2.

Commento di 449533

The Splintered Hand, of Turalyon-EU, just five-manned the Twin Emps at 80 in a mix of heroic and Conquest gear.

Setup: warrior tank and resto shaman stayed on one side for the entire fight, holy priest plus arcane mage and druid tank stayed on the other. Physical tanks used aggro abilities to grab Vek'nilash on the switch each time as usual; mage and shammy picked up Vek'lor when he turned up on their respective sides. Priest kept the mage healed, shammy healed himself. Physical tanks picked up and despatched the bug adds while Vek'lor was on their side, since they had little else to do.

Be careful; the aggro after the switch can be very twitchy. In particular, it appears that a high-threat ability used immediately before the switch can dump threat onto an Emperor a split second afterwards (possibly due to latency) causing him to charge over to the other side of the room immediately. Both physical and magic tanks need to be aware of this and be ready to fire off some threat moves immediately; it helps if physical tanks position themselves along the path that Vek'nilash will take to get to his brother, so he has to come though you (and you're not chasing him around).

Most importantly, do not use DoTS. After the switch and subsequent aggro wipe, it would appear that the first action on each Emperor's threat table gains a large chunk of bonus threat. This, I believe, is what creates the impression that you can grab high threat through proximity aggro. But if a DOT ticks straight after the switch (even something relatively minor, like the burn effect from a Mage fireball) the tick will generate huge threat, and the Emperor will typically charge straight back across the room. With our Druid tank using Lacerate, for example, I couldn't pull aggro back even with a 9K+ Shield Slam. He had the same problem with my Deep Wounds.

We downed the Emps with two minutes left on the berserk timer; we didn't allow them to heal even once. It's doable, just takes a good deal of concentration. Good luck.

Commento di trendyusername

These guys were hellish for me on my hunter, even though we wiped hard on them in that fail pug I was in. 90% of my abilities seem to count as "magic" even though they don't get reflected by any spell reflects (and +spell damage is lol-worthy on a hunter) so I could only use auto and steady shot against him, and could only throw arcane shot against the other twin to avoid the dot from explosive shot, even though it was only three seconds. Couldn't use black arrow, or serpent sting, so just stuck with scorpid sting.
Had a trinket that helped when rapid fire was on CD...as well as berserk. Being a troll has benefits sometimes.
It was just so awful testing to see what would and wouldn't work and watching as it said "Immune" to explosive shot. Kill shot wasn't even part of the equation as we didn't even get 10% down before our tanks' brains hemorrhaged.
500-700 DPS cut down to about 90-200 dps for one fight before we wiped. Jeez, that sucked. These bosses are not a huntard's friend.
Didn't help that my pet kept dying because the other twin kept pulling it with his AoE because our tanks were retarded and couldn't keep them apart.

Commento di chaosbringer127

I found that for PuGing the twin emps, its best to have 2 tanks (caster and a melee) on each side. 4 total.That way switches are easier.

DPS must stay on their toes and swap between veklor and veknilash.

This fight is one of the most fun encounters I've ever done, even doing this at 80.

Commento di Narinae

Our pug had 20 people, a few of them 60s and 70s, the rest 80s of varying gear levels. On each side we put a strong tank (we used pallies) and healer apiece, then magic dps on Vek'lor's side and physical dps on Vek'nilash's side. The raid was instructed as follows:

Stay on your designated platform for the whole fight.
Keep the target you start with through the whole fight, do not switch when they teleport.
Use as many dots as possible as often as possible.
No AoE or multiple target attacks.

The twins got three teleports off before downing. After each teleport they immediately ran back to their original corners. They did heal in passing but were damaged far more than the heal before teleporting again.

Once we tried this strategy this was the easiest fight of the raid. I highly recommend it to any raid with plenty of firepower.

Commento di Deathbang

WARNING: Both of the guys are immune to the Death Knight taunt skills Dark Command and Death Grip. If you are a DK you CANNOT taunt these guys. The paladin tanking the other twin complained hand of reckoning didn't work either. Bring 2 warriors.

Commento di Jolni

Tried this last night as a guild fun run, I took my lvl 80 paladin tank (in ilvl 232 gear), we had about 9 in the group, at first we tried pulling them together and nuking them as has been suggested - complete fail - we just had to give up eventually as we could not out dps there heals.

I've seen it suggested you need at least 15,000 dps for this to work to out damage there heals, in theory we should have had that but as it was a social group that may not have been the case...

On the second try we attempted to keep them apart and failed again, this time it was simply a case of not understanding the mechanics, and so on switch over they would imeadiatly sprint across the room, passing each other and healing up.

Another attempt with the same result made it clear this was not going to be a simple level 80 nuke for lol's and move on, so we took a little time to read tactics and set out roles and positions.

On the forth atempt we had a pala tank (me) and a lock tank on one platform with a healer, and a warior tank and a lock tank with a healer on the other, our 2 melee dps were assigned to Vek'nilash, and all the other caster dps were assigned to Vek'lor, everyone was told not to use any kind of dots or AOE.

This started much better and we quickly had them down to 75% with all going well, then they swaped for about to 3rd time and I was unable to get agro, Vek'nilash then sprint back across the room, they healed yup, and we were back to square one...

We had to break off then as it was late but reading the comments above I can offer the following feed back:

If you want to try nuking them down together, out pacing there heals, you need alot of DPS, 15,000 seems light to me, but we are going back so I will test and update...

If you want to tank them in the conventional way, warriors by far seem ot have the best threat on them, and no taunt fail issues.

Hand of reckoning does not work - but Avengers shield does work as a ranged taunt.

Be careful; the aggro after the switch can be very twitchy. In particular, it appears that a high-threat ability used immediately before the switch can dump threat onto an Emperor a split second afterwards (possibly due to latency) causing him to charge over to the other side of the room immediately.

I am in agreement with this, speed of pickup after the teleport is the key to this fight, time it right and you can just bat them back and forth happily until the dps get them down, but loose that initial pickup - and they will break loose and cause havoc.

2 reasons for this are:-

Dots of any kind, even from the tank (Seal of Corruption is a no no, I went with Seal of Righteousness).

Latency, as quoted above, if you are too quick on the pickup they may not have quite cleared down there agro table and so your taunt although it hits - it effectivly misses as they then clear down moments after your taunt and so go charging back accross the room, I saw this first hand...

A Paladin can tank Vek'lor with holy spells, but not enough to be dps'd as well, and the aoe knock back with slowing makes this very very dificult, and as a caster he is hard to kite so your back is to a wall.

Overall a fun and challenging fight, be prepard to come prepared and not face roll this, I'm looking forward to going back and downing these guys...

Commento di Ethlin

Copy pasta from the other emperor...

They are immune to taunt, so I also assume warrior taunt will not work as well.

Anyway. It's theoretically possible to two man with 2 prot paladins (As far as I can tell), has anyone done it/tried?

Commento di 17424

He also has some kind of Sword Specialization with a chance of doing an extra hit (like the old one or windfury).
Not sure if he still has it but i remember some wipes back in the days cause of such double hits right after an unbalancing strike.
Good thing to counteract this, was to shield the tank right after an UBS.

Commento di 575688

Currently trying to 2 man this encounter using 2 warriors
the amount of dps needed to get them down before 15 minute Berserk is 2405 dps TOTAL
we using 0/31/40 spec

using the 0/31/40 spec and being mostly 264 geared we managed to get them all the way to 13 % best try
when berserk hit , the Veklor Tank got smacked pretty fast since we where not ready with cooldowns and kinda messed up a bit and the best attemt was far from perfect..

going with some dps trinkets and dps gear for next attemts and i thik we got it since incoming damage is MORE the manageble

you simply use Bloodthirst to regen health on all the small bugs on the floor while tanking Veklor
the threat from that roughly 1.1k heal per hit + the 5k initial threat you get after teleport is more than enough to hold aggro ;) T10 4 set bonus and the Corroded skelleton Key helps loads aswell(using this/theese at the end of Veklor tank period)

Enragedregeneration we used for backupheals while tanking Veklor only (using it when tanking veknilash will most likely overaggro the veklor tanks

when Veknilash comes to your side use Retaliation and Deathwish whn possible combined with improved revenge (killing the adds at the same time) and the dps needed is possible to achieve ;)
its all about getting it *perfect' and stopping your dps in the EXACT right moment to get as few seconds as possible with 0 dps (getting a hit on Veknilash yust as they teleport can be a disaster since the attack can actualy hit the target after he has teleported to the other side )

GL to ANYONE attemnting this 2/3 man i can promise you 15 minutes of shear fun ;)

to person in above post talking about *an extra attack* is eather that unbalancing strike is on another swing timer then the auto attack 2.0 speed swing timer he usualy has OR its simply a parry haste attack

Commento di 357882

Last night we 3 maned Twins, your grp was, Prot paladin, Deathknight in tanking gear Frost spec, Resto shaman in Elemtal gear,

I (the paladin) started vek'lor while the Deathknight started on vek'nilash

Dk pulls Nilash (the melee one) all the way to the wall, I Just do exo and range attacks on the caster,
after the Teleport, Lor will be at the wall with the dk tanking him thus making him only being knocked back at the wall and able to melee, with out any problems, While I Take Nilash to a wall , thus making every teleport the caster will only knock us at the wall so making it very easy to melee etc,

The shaman alway's follows Vek'lor he does more dmg since we can avoid most of the attacks on vek'nilash,(melee one) there shouldn't be any healing pressure, 1 heal per teleport is more then enough + with the shaman following vek'lor he'll be able to dmg him aswell,

paladin make sure your not using seal of truth the dot might Aggro him, back to you after the teleport,

I can imagen to paladins soloing this easily most of our ability's work on both of them. "Judgment seal dmg and Avenger's Wrath and even Shield of the Righteous works on both of em

We had 5 mins left of Enrage we' were average 264 I hope this helps ya,

Commento di 697715

This encounter is able to be 2-manned - we duo'd it last night with myself as a feral tank in a mix of gear ranging from 232-264s and blood DK in ICC25 gear. (Shock, not two paladins!)

The fight was fairly simple but with not much room for error. We pulled and kept the emperors on the two platforms, obviously tanking them with our backs to the wall. We remained stationary, and simply immediately picked up the emperor that teleported to our side; this switching was the key to staying alive without heals.

The fight was essentially the same on both sides. During Vek'lor we would just focus on staying alive. (I was able to pop out and heal, and we both needed to use cooldowns). We would then use Vek'nilash to heal up (Leader of the Pack, Death Strike), and DPS them down (since we both had primarily physical damage). So for each of us it alternated between stay alive, self heal/dps, stay alive, etc. Did this for 12 minutes, and epic win.

Some things that we noticed:
- You need to be with your back to the WALL. Both platforms have a sort of alcove or corner, and you want to avoid tanking them there as much as possible. We did this for a while because it minimized knockback, but this seems to lag their teleportation a few seconds, eliminating the short time window to grab threat and allowing one to run to the other. In the end this left too much room for error.

- Kill Vek'linash's mutated scarabs. It just lessens the incoming damage.

- Be quick to grab aggro. This meant Icy Touch/Faerie Fire for Vek'lor and whatever physical attack was up for Vek'linash. We didn't hit the enrage timer so we would have been able to manage some heals, but the issue was that once one they started running to the other it was almost impossible to separate them again.

Fun stuff!

Commento di 768428

ho do u kill them

Commento di Nobbel

How to duo in Cataclysm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Peqt9cAyOrU

Commento di naiohme

just two manned as warrior / paladin. just during the teleport do nothing.

Commento di 809536

Was able to solo today Elemental shaman 359iLvl, 4pt11,
Was able to solo by speccing points into resto Totemic Focus to allow for 3+mins on earth / fire elemental and laying them on opposing platform. starting off on non magic immune boss i was able to burn with flask + lust + pot + EM them down to roughly 30%, when melee swapped onto me fire elemental was able to pick up threat and hold magic boss on other side while i swapped to 2hnder with WF for kicks :P, 30-40 seconds later the caster boss ported back, i repotted , prepotted first time popped EM again and burned them down, all in all, took about 3-3.5 hours of trying, mostly waiting on Earth elemental cooldown. I'm willing to go on a limb and say that elemental shamans + warlocks are probably the only class that will ever be able to solo these 2.
my apologies in advance for bad grammar/english... i have been bashing my head on desk like this was heroic nefarian for last 4 hours :P.

Commento di 162664

There's a video of a rogue pulling Vek'nilash alone. The footage is actually pretty useless, he simply runs up to the boss and for some unexplained reason Vek'lor does not join in.

- One of the nearby anubis mobs tags along. Since he charges in mounted, it may have been an unnoticed/ignored tagalong, or triggered by the boss since the encounter aggros any skipped anubis trash. It may also be deliberate and part of the exploit.

- He plays a rogue but there's no vanish involved. In fact, lolrecupe is insufficient with the anubish around and he flees with vanish, only to engage again without Vek'lor triggering.

The video description simply says "Using good timing i pulled Vek'nilash alone" but since his only actions are standing around and standing around, I'm not sure just what event was timed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqN0VYQVvnA
http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=183225

There's a clever C'thun solo in there too, so "Private server." isn't a very solid theory.

EDIT:
I've heard a few more details now that it surfaced on mmochamp's front page. First, it was PTR work. Second, rather than responses, youtube comments upset about the blatant obfuscation are being "removed by author". As more and more people call BS on the pull and there's no statement, "Private server." starts to gain weight.

Commento di Gulanga

some warrior messaged me explaining how he can almost solo due to maintaining ~ 31 K dps

Gain Friendly reputation status with The Brood of Nozdormu.
Accept your class quest from Andorgos inside The Temple Ahn'Qiraj (AQ40). She's located in a side room just beyond The Prophet Skeram.
Kill Emperor Vek'nilash and loot the Qiraji token: Vek'nilash's Circlet.
Collect the right amount/type of Idols and Scarabs needed, either buy them from the auction house or loot from trash / Large Scarab Coffers.
Complete the quest!

Warrior Conqueror's Crown | Conqueror's Crown

Warlock Doomcaller's Circlet | Doomcaller's Circlet

Mage Enigma Circlet | Enigma Circlet

Priest Tiara of the Oracle | Tiara of the Oracle

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Emperor Vek'nilash

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Emperor Vek'nilash

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