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Comentario de 6780

Easily hits for the 200s with decent AP and can keep mobs aggroed on you through AE. Not nearly as effective pre-nerf but with no cooldown, is far more effective than a warrior trying to tank multiple mobs. A great combo with this is the primal fury talent. The crits can triger the talent multiple times and on a triple crit this ability is free.

Comentario de 92752

i found this ability quite useful when fighting shamans, so kill there totems, and not having to select them

Comentario de 64664

Great skill for tanking mobs in instances like Sunken Temple where you need to fight larger groups.. Too bad not too many druids use it for tanking.

Comentario de 886

Scaling: 7% of attack power is added to damage

Also a good way to figure out how much armor a mob has. Swipe a mob, check the damage done, check your attack power, a bit of mathcraft and BAM, you have a number.

What moenbase says is also incorrect. Many druids use this. Its the bread & butter multi tanking ability for druids.

Comentario de 31067

asside from the obvious tanking use, then this talent is also handy for bear-druids who just want to aoe-grind mobs. Simply travel-form or mount up, then round up 3 or more mobs, bearform and then swipe them to death.

like satarus said, then Primal Fury can proc multiple times of swipe, so with a good crit% (which is easy to get for a druid) then you'll always have enough rage to spam swipe all the time.

Comentario de Bloodsword

This is now not limited by targets, in the aim of making all tanks more aoe viable.

Comentario de Hyle

Just announced Blizzard intends to remove the target cap from Thunderclap and Swipe so now these skills can be used on more than 4 mobs.

Comentario de Iceleaf

Congrats new druid tanks, you just found awesome ability called swipe. If you are on queue in LFG system as tank this is "the bread and butter" ability of ~~low~~ all levels.

Warning: Might cause numb fingers after spamming whole instance (usually hour or more) swipe, because thats what you will do fooreeeveer.

Swipe's damage can can proc Icy chill, Fiery, Unholy to do damage, slows, curses etc to other targets than the one you are only tagretting and has increased change to proc stuff like Battlemaster due hitting a lot of mobs etc.

Edit: In 4.0 this skill now has cooldown and is learnable at 36.
No more spam, yay. But this also means more careful aggro-management before 36 and after due cooldown. Also after if people still havent learned to attack same target as you, but thats their fault really.

Comentario de 655267

Ok so in cata you learn this at level 36 so I'm guessing tanks will have to tab+maul :(
QQ

Comentario de 624821

Apparently Swipe will now have a 6 second cool down in Cataclysm, and at the moment this comment was written, still does not generate a high amount of threat, getting rid of Swipes awesome AoE tank ability. Also Maul once glyphed in Cataclysm (or possibly patch 4.0) will only do 50% damage on the second target, again making Bears even worse for AoE tanking. Things are starting to look pretty bad for our Fuzzy bears.

Comentario de wyhn

Since Swipe has a cooldown, at level 80 making aggro on groups is a pain in the ass.

For example in Onyxia with 2 tanks I've to beg the other tank: "please, let me tank her and you take the adds". I know swipe was a very useful tool to tank small and big groups of enemies, but I can forget this ability as a good one.

It has now a 6 secs CD (and druids at 80 haven't -trash-) and it cost double tan before: 30 rage from 15 rage. So...

I think this is a NERF
Remove the swipe CD until Cataclysm goes live!
/sign

Comentario de Silrod

How exactly am I supposed to keep aggro as a level 15 druid tank now? I was planning to level by dungeons, but I don't get swipe until level 36.
Why did blizzard do this? I see no point in putting it at level 36...

Comentario de 702240

Swipe has been reduced by 75 to 80% in damage. It was listed in the patch notes for 4.0.3a that swipe would be reduced by 20% in damage. So this apparently is a bug that needs to be addressed. There is also a serious reduction in the amount of threat that Swipe generates.

If you are experiencing this bug, please go to the World of Warcraft community site and report it on the bug report forum. Here is a link to a thread on the bug report forum: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1127127739

Comentario de 362488

Since Swipe is the only aoe-ability for druids, this bug hurts really hard. Since 4.0.3a it's really hard for druid tanks to hold aggro on multiple targets. The damage and thread generation are at approximately the same level as an level 50 paladin has with his skills and talents (only regarding area effects)

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Comentario de 702240

I don't see any post by you Madouc on the bug thread I created in the Official Forums.

Can you please post a copy of your above message to this thread: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1127127739

The more people who post a message to the above thread, the better the chance of the bug being noticed and getting fixed.

Comentario de HandsomeJack

My only complaint is that its been pushed to lvl 36....which means early level tanking will be hell, which it is. I tank all the time on the bear, and I notice it's more of a Mangle/Maul rotation. I like the feel of tab tanking (Warrior), but dungeons come with mobs of 3+, so its counter intuitive. Especially when Pallies and Warriors get AoE's. Frankly, it should be given around the 20's, waiting that long for an AoE, when there are 4-5 early low level dungeons is idiotic.

Comentario de domie1595

I have a macro i like to use for bear tanking inclouding this and swipe:

#show Thrash(Bear Form)
/castsequence reset=5 Thrash(Bear Form), Swipe(Bear Form)

for the people that aint used to macros, this will just cast Thrash, then if you press it again, cast swipe. it got the 5 second reset, so every time you engage a new pack you Trash will be the first spell cast again.
Tho i like to still keep swipe on my bars for those situations where your missing the 10 rage more swipe costs.

Comentario de semlar

Can't be used while silenced.

Comentario de smiley001

4.1 Patchnotes: Swipe (Bear) cooldown has been reduced to 3 seconds, down from 6.

*pins up a stamp of approval*.

Comentario de 162742

4.1 notes: Swipe (Bear) now trainable at level 18 (Instead of 36).

YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!

Comentario de 904646

This is one of the key moves which is making druid feral tank so over powered at the moment. It hits multiple target for a high amount of damage therefore threat, meaning that it is great in combination with maul (if glyphed) and thrash for aoe tanking. I have played druid tank since early WOTLK, at that point a druid tank was a rare thing to see where as now a days druid tanks are getting to be a more popular choice due to the easier approach to tanking.

Comentario de healingenzo

Just the right tool, for DPS who don't understand my motto - "Tank what you pull".

Comentario de Thottbot

18 damage? seems kinda useless... unless it's for pulling aggro...

Comentario de Thottbot

Will damage power-ups (potions, spells...), if applied before Bear Form, increase this damage level? I've JUST acquired the ability (unused as yet)and I'll post my findings...

Comentario de Thottbot

Does it work on enemies behind you, or do they have to be in front of you.

Comentario de Thottbot

They gotta be in front of you

Comentario de Thottbot

I love this move. I use it when tanking to keep aggro on more mobs and when soloing low level instances that I can't AoE properly.

Comentario de Thottbot

How does the AP effect the dmg?
What is the formula?

Comentario de Thottbot

bear form is not ment for dmg lol, IT IS a tanking form! overall this ability is good, just make sure u dont swipe close to CC targets, i was breaking sheep so much untill i started moving enemies away from cc.

Comentario de Thottbot

Actually if the enemy is within range of dieing (2%-10% hp) Then just use maul and while waiting for next maul, swipe. It makes ur bear look like he's attacking fast. Also its a good rage dump if u have ferocity and if the mob or plaer is within range of dieing from 4 sets of maul+swipe then start using this inbetween mauls w/ 60+ rage.

Comentario de Thottbot

yea so this move gets better with talents later on.

The cool thing about the feral talents is how much they can work together and make crapy moves great.

K, so you have a +6% crit talent, a talent which reduces the cost of this from 20 to 15 rage along with other ablities, a talent which gives you 5 rage when u crit in bear mode, another talent that gives 5% more crit to all party members and a conected talent which gives 4% life gain every time u crit with cool of 6 sec, and a talent that increases your crit dmg by 10%.

So lets say you are tanking and there are 3 guys there, start swiping. this move has 3 chances to crit and therefore 3 chances for +5 rage and +4% health. Sometimes it won't crit, othertimes you crit twice and get 10 rage back for a 15 rage attack. Basicly with these talents along with the regular attack you will be doing on a mob, you will be able to spam this and get high aggro for all 3 of those mobs. Thats when its a good ablity. However I still think that they should up the dmg on this so that you get more aggro to keep these mobs away from healers, or at least to do more dmg as a tank. At lvl 51-52 i was only doing 55 dmg and 110-120 crits. And i hear kinda well geared people crit for like 300-400 as said in a post on the last rank of this, meaning around 140-170 or so regular dmg. That kinda sucks when u see healers criting for around 7000 or mages hiting for 2100 fire balls and criting for 3700 or so. They just need to double the dmg or something.

Otherwise good for aggro.

Comentario de Thottbot

Since I reached 49 i was looking for more cash. So i started doing stocks runs. Some alone, some boosting. In stocks you have the layout of a long hallway with rooms on either side. So the tactic is (i have 3.6khp and 5.1k armour in DB form, just to clear things up. about 80dps.) I use regrowth, rejuv, DBF, enrage. you RUN in, not charge, grab the mobs with a demoralizing, kite em over to the other side and start spammin Swipe. then you will have 6-8 mobs attacking you. Keep up the demoralizing and DON'T chase the mobs. If u get low on hp, enrage+Frenzied regen OR Barkskin, heal. repeat as long as u like since when u are done at around lvl 48-54, they will respawn. So: Recap. Regrowth, rejuv, DBF, enrage, grab mobs, cross hallway, another demor, tank.
Have fun and pwn n00bs ^^

Comentario de Thottbot

DUDE THIS IS INSANE IN PVP! ok if u wanna be like a tankdpser then do this : use maul and wait for it to attack and while waiting just spam swipe if u have any rage to use so basically ur mauling and swiping LOL i was against three rogues and i managed to kill 1 wit maul and had the other 2 almost dead! then i went cheetah heal and back to bear then they all died hehehe XD

Comentario de Thottbot

this is awesome for farm green mobs ( if you have primal fury ).

whit high crit chance you crit at least one of the three hits gaining 5 extra rage. so ( whit ferocity talents ) swipe will cost only 10 rage. the damage you do should be enought to regen it every attack, so basically you can spam it as long as you want. maybe enrage sometimes to keep rage up.

p.s. not very good against humanoids that run away in fear when low hp cus you will have to charge them to avoid aggro all their freakin friends. but awesome for grind beasts ecc.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Doesn't the swipe spell use rage now instead of mana?

Comentario de Soapybawlz

Please for the love of god allow this to scale with AP in SoD.

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