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Comentario de 5227

Drops off of the first boss in the Blood Furnace.

Comentario de 5460

Does the heal on this libram return mana to the paladin from Spiritual Attunement?

Comentario de Caffi

Is there any other way to get this?
Or is there any librams with the same kind of bonus?
Because i have it, but i dont think i even killed the maker yet....
The hell? ^^

Comentario de 57042

Libram of Saints Departed: This relic now functions properly again.
From the 2.3 Patch notes

Comentario de morphman86

I catched this one a few days back, and as it has been said before, it works wonders with a tankadin.
I use the AOE spell rotation and since I got this, I have a lot easier to keep aggro due to that small boost of holy.

For those, who don't know the spell rotation, here it is:

Seal of Light / Wisdom -> Holy Shield -> Avenger's Shield -> Judgement -> Consecration -> Seal of Light / Wisdom

Every rotation takes about 5 seconds and are repeated every 25'th second (save for Avenger's shield) and the seal depends on the situation. If you're in an instance, it's mostly SoW!

Comentario de CrackHead

Kicked from group for 'ninjaing' this from a DK (i'm pally ofc) never thought people could get so dumb...

Comentario de Catharsis

I got this a few nights ago, and I noticed no one's mentioned it's value in helping to offset the damage received when judging with Seal of Blood/Martyr. Over time, it provides a little more survivability, and considering I use SoB the most as a Ret, it's quite useful right now.

In fact, that may be the intent of it. Seal of the Martyr? Libram of Saints Departed? Hmmm....

Comentario de Camundongo

This isn't a bad Libram for this level. It's fairly easy to get hold of, and since paladins tend to use judgements more now compared to a fair while ago you can get a fair amount of health from it.

Comentario de 227843

Even though this says paladin beware, if you are tanking and would like to pick this up you can't. I ran this on my newest Paladin tank (loved the health amount of stamina and the expertise on it) But just my luck, it would not let me need on it. Even my holy pally guild member could not need on it. So not sure if this is a bug or if only ret can need on this.

On a side note this is a really good tanking libram.

Comentario de TheDash

This seems to have been updated to allow Death Knights to use it in 4.0.6?

Comentario de Pantheon07

Strange , a libram with SAME NAME droped for my 61 paladin but it wasn't increase streght and stamina , it says Every time i use a judgement it heals me for 41 to 50 .

Comentario de 219571

I am not able to upvote comments for some reason despite having the proper amount of reputation.

Comentario de Allakhazam

this dropped for me - the only pally on the run - on my first run through the instance at level 61. it is pretty good; 'specially since they fixed the casting bug in 2.1. prior what would happen is that the effect of this libram was considered a cast - so you could not block or parry whilst it triggered.

but it's fixed, so all is well. having said that - i did a scholo run the other night (at level 65) with another pally and 3 locks - it was an epic mount run...

and i won the roll on the libram of fervor.

which, imho, is better. i'm holy. the more damage i can accumulate for anticaster melee, the happier i am.

Edited, Jun 1st 2007 12:48pm by catherdrah

Comentario de Allakhazam

Just had it dropped in our first guild run.

We ended up sharding it..lol

Comentario de Allakhazam

62 Ret Pally
For a Ret Pally this can add up. First time through I won the roll. I can Judge between 4 and ? times depending on the enemy. If you did the numbers over a long period of time this would def add up. I do suppose I'll find something else to replace it soon but if not this is kinda pimp.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Ive run the instance over a dozen times yet to see libram drop. GM said its working but I dont believe him

Comentario de Allakhazam

This item, as of 2.2.3, DOES NOT work. I just talked to a GM and it is a known issue.

Comentario de Thottbot

L2Read, its not a trinket, its a LIBRAM... Therefore, equiping it will not waste one of your trinket slots...

And you are saying that 41-49 health doesnt help?
I got a lvl 63 warrior with Darkmoon Card: Heroism, which adds 120-180 hp sometimes. And i got 7k health, but its still useful! In my eyes, that is the case with this LIBRAM too..

Comentario de Thottbot

Its a libram u noob Its actually useful because it binds with SoL so each shot u can get 100+ health I find it useful =)

Comentario de Thottbot

It is a libram yes, and it sure is useless. I use Libram of Fervor and it blows it out of the water anyday. It's simple - I'd take +33 spelldmg over a health regen that regens 0.625% of my health every 8 sec.
If this libram takes into account the +healing the paladin has, well it will be a whole different story, but it doesn't. It really needs a fix or needs to be DE'd / vendored.

Comentario de Thottbot

Lol why have crusader enchant if it only heals for 100? if you dont think about the strenght.. crusader enchant have saved me lots of times

Comentario de Thottbot

Cmon, any self respecting palladin would put this libram on without another doubt. Mainly because all palladins use judgment, even holy pallies. And if your gonna cast the spell might as well gain some well needed hp at the same time. In my eyes there is only one libram that would be better and that would be one that reduces the mana cost of all seals by 20 (which does exist) or something that reduces cooldown of a spell (which doesn't exist as far as I know).

Comentario de Thottbot

Considering you'll have plenty of mana due to Spiritual Attunement, slap on Seal of Vengeance and judge whenever possible... true this isn't much but the only other ones that might be better are the +spelldmg from SotC or -mana cost for Consecration.

Comentario de Thottbot

I have no Libram yet and i'm a retribution paladin, this is better than nothing and actualy I use judments about 6 times per fight which means i will gain about 260 hp per fight, it could the difference between dead or live.

Comentario de Thottbot

Just was messing around with this Libram and this thing actually isn't as bad as I thought. It's bad in PvP as opposed to Libram of Justice but it's pretty good for grinding. It cuts down on downtime slightly and it has the potential to crit. I received a 71 crit heal from it.

It seems more geared towards retribution. Constantly spaming the judgement along with improved judgement makes this thing worth while. It'll keep you up longer but it's definately useful. Not the craziest libram around but not the crappiest either

Comentario de Thottbot

I would advise not listening to the idiots that say this libram is worthless. Just because it is worthless to them doesn't mean it's worthless to everybody.
What I do know, is that if this is the first Libram you've seen since you rolled a pally, you'll equip it and be damn proud of it. It's a slight advantage, sure. But nobody but an idiot would pass it up if you don't have anything better.

Comentario de Thottbot

Main advantage is that it looks cooler when you judge :D.

Comentario de Thottbot

Look at the list of librams and name a better one for a prot paladin who is tanking/soloing at the levels you are running Blood Furnace. There are other good tankadin librams but if you don't have them yet, you aren't going to get them (Not until you are running heroic level instances at least.)

Do you ever consider wearing +def items? Well... Getting free heals from something you are doing anyway is excellent damage mitigation, plain and simple.

Librams that drop off of pre-BC endgame content might as well not exist. It will be more difficult to find a group who is willing to farm those drops with you than to actually farm them. This libram drops off the first boss in the first instance of Outlands. It's a bread and butter item- useful in groups and especially while soloing given the options. It begs to be farmed.

Comentario de Thottbot

something to think about regarding this libram, and also a question to any pallies who might know such things: does the heal from this libram cause threat to the pally? because I am a prot pally with a few points in ret, I have both improved righteous fury and improved judgement. putting the two together, this thing would be pimp if it causes threat. about 85 extra threat every 8 seconds with righteous fury on, not to mention even more when it crits. giving you threat about as good as the libram of the eternal rest from sethekk, PLUS the heal. anybody happen to know?

Comentario de Thottbot

I didn't really want to give away my secret, but I might as well now.

This is AWESOME for a Pally not because it heals you for 40 health, but very similar to stats, it works well when you stack it.

I'm leveling at the moment, and with this libram + heroism + JoL + Crusader (+add your own weapon with lifesteal procs, enchants etc) and you have a self-healing pally out the wazzooo.
I'm getting many, many procs from one hit. I've healed myself of over 500hp in a single swing. It pours down like rain. In a single fight, I'll have healed myself for 800+ on a bad fight, and that's just one mob.

Comentario de Thottbot

I picked this up recently in Slave Pens. I am a protection paladin with Improved judgment and improved rightous fury. My threat went up considerably when I equiped it.

After the judgement motion with the forward hand, your hand flashes up vertically into the healing spell pose for just a blink. So I would say that it generates threat. This a Tankadin's best friend, some extra threat for free with a side bonus of a heal that does not get in the way of weapon swings.

Our rogue commented that he went from sometimes pulling aggro off of me with a string of combos to not being able to at all even when he tried to.

Comentario de Thottbot

Best libram for farming, period.

Comentario de Thottbot

Being a Blood Elf, we have Seal of Blood, which drains a little of our own health when attacking. When judging, we take a hit of health. This libram helps by softing the health loss. However, since the 2.2 patch, the libram doesn't seem to be working.

Comentario de Thottbot

Took me a while to notice it. During some mob grinding I kept thinking that something didn't feel right.

Then I focused on getting a judgment off right at the end of a fight.

Nothing.

So I went back through the combat logs. Confirmed.

Can anyone report on other librams? I'm thinking of switching to Fervor, but not if it's deactivated as well.

Comentario de Thottbot

CONFIRMED my libram of the saints is not procing on judgements since the 2.2.3 went live...this stinks

Comentario de Thottbot

Allegedly fixed in next patch

Comentario de Thottbot

Ya, I just got this, and it hasn't proc'd once, far from EACH JUDGEMENT....it plain doesnt work...

Comentario de Thottbot

Yup - not working for me either.

Comentario de 2143730

Worst libram ever, not even scales by bonus healing, so it's 100% trash

Comentario de NemesisWiberg

20 tries on paladin and on my other alt hunter it has dropped 6/10 times but never gun, Gun dropped around 10/20 times on paladin. rip

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