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Kommentar von SaintDoom

Make sure everyone has played Star Fox and knows how to Ausweichmanöver! before starting the fight.

Kommentar von 108668

I count 46 different elements to this fight.

We've come a long way since Molten Core.

Kommentar von Ashvael

Here's a guide based on our 25m first kill. If you have a better way of handling certain parts of the encounter (especially 10m additions), feel free to suggest them in a comment.

Phase 1:
Alysrazor will enter the area from the north, knocking all of you back 20 yards and then start spamming some moderate fire AoE till she has passed the wall of fire she created. After the knockback you should stack up pretty close to the fire wall and let the healers top you up. She has a huge hitbox, so melees should be able to hit her fairly soon.

Directly after she has entered the area, she will start by doing . You may not be in the middle part of the area or you will get cleaved to death. She does not need to be tanked in this phase at all. While she cleaves through the middle area, she drops Feuerfeders in her path. Designated players (2-5 in 25m and 1 in 10m) should get 3 stacks of Feuerfeder instantly. They will then gain Flammenschwingen and be able to fly after her and deal damage to her.

Air Part: The players in the air need to fly through small rings of fire which only last for about 3 seconds. These rings refresh your Flammenschwingen and also grant you the stacking (de)buff Lodernde Macht. This (de)buff stacks up to 25 times and if you get to 25 stacks you will also gain the following (de)buff: Alysras Klingen which lasts for the same duration as you'll be able to keep your Lodernde Macht up. However she will not only spawn the rings of fire in the air but also Brandwolkes. Those deal heavy fire damage and may also "dismount" you. You will need to avoid these at all times.

Ground Part: The rest of your raid will have to deal with 3 different types of adds.

Two sets of four s will spawn in a square-like formation in the middle area. These cannot be targeted/attacked. The only thing these adds do are spitting fire in a small radius cone (10yards?) in front of them. Simply do not stand in front of them.

Two eggs will be dropped off out of which s will spawn. It's important that your 2 tanks will stand next to the egg before the hatchling spawns because the closest player will instantly gain Geprägt. Your tanks will then also deal 1000% more damage to their respective hatchling. As soon as a gains the Hungrig buff, your tank will have to drag it next to a . It will eat the worm and be Gesättigt for 15 seconds after which this repeats. Tanks deal by far the most damage on these adds, however your DPS should also switch to them when none of the following adds are alive.

Two s will spawn at outer parts of the area. These are the main targets for your ground DPS in Phase 1. While focusing them down, it's extremy important to interrupt Fyroschlag. You will need 1 shaman or 2 other melee classes per add to interrupt them in both 10m and 25m settings. Set up rotations.

During phase 1 she will also fly through the middle area 3 more times and use , as well as drop Feuerfeders, just like in the beginning. Noone should be in the middle area at this time. Since your designated air players have had their stack of Feuerfeder already since the beginning, the rest of your raid should each get a stack of 1-2 feathers during this phase to make the next phase easier.

Phase 2:
Alysrazor will fly in small circles around the area and remove the Flammenschwingen from every player after a few seconds. She will drop down in the middle part of the area where nobody should stand as there will be a Feuriger Vortex. Feuriger Tornados will spawn from the middle area and move outwards. The tornadoes will then start moving in circles in a set direction. You will have to avoid these by simply changing your distance to the middle area forth and back at a set point and they will pass you while doing their circles.
During this phase the rings of fire - which previously were only in the air and grant/refresh your stack of Lodernde Macht - will also spawn at the ground. Players who feel comfortable dodging tornadoes should also pick those up, especially the air players since they will keep their 25 stack up for the following burn phase.

Phase 3:
After a short time of dodging tornadoes this phase will be over and Alysrazor will lie in the center with the following debuff: Erloschen. This is the time where you should bloodlust and your DPS and healers should nuke the boss. It's important your healers also DPS him because of Essenz des Gründrachen. She continously regenerates her energy in this phase with Funken.
During this phase two will spawn which will try to channel energy into Alysrazor. They will need to be taken care of by your tanks. They can be interrupted, stunned, silenced -- pretty much everything.

Phase 4:
When Alysrazor is back up to 50 energy, she will start phase 4. She will rise again, however not fly high yet. This is the only phase where she needs to be tanked and faced away from the raid. Your tanks will gain the debuff and should switch at around 75 energy. During this phase, it's important that your raid is stacked up completely behind the boss and defensive cooldowns as well as healing cooldowns should be used while she deals heavy fire AoE damage with Lodernde Verpuffung. This phase lasts until she has 100 molten power again and casts Volle Kraft.
Phase 1 will begin again with the small exception of Feuerfeders lying directly in the center so your air players can get up instantly again.

I know it may seem like much but once you've seen all of the phases, you will realize you as an individual player won't have too much to watch out for.
Here's an example log of the fight. You will see the tanks first by a good margin, followed by air players, followed by the rest.

If you have any questions or suggestions, go ahead!

Good luck.

Kommentar von 462527

Doing this as a feral druid with nyan cat playing in the background is win.

Kommentar von 418716

If you're having trouble with tornadoes just chase one, and when you see one on your right pass you quickly switch and follow that one, super easy mode this way. The fire trail left behind by the tornadoes will NOT hurt you.

Kommentar von Rekka

Some general tips.

For Fiery tornado it generally works well to "chase" after the last tornado that went past you. I.e. a tornado goes past you on your left you move into its "lane" and follow it until another tornado passes on your left which you then follow instead. Repeat as necessary. This should cause you to run in essentially an oval pattern with almost no risk of being hit except for when tornado spawn. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue7UCVdY6Fs demonstrates the technique.

While flying: Rings seem to despawn very quickly; however, like Valritha dreamwalker's portal phase it is very much possible to keep up stacks on everyone if you pass through the rings quickly and generally together. Additionally it is very important to catch the ring she leaves as sh dips low to use blazing claw or run the risk of your flying buff wearing off before she returns to her normal circle pattern. Also if you do lose the flying buff picking up a single feather will launch you into the air again. Be aware that you can take falling dmg when the flying debuff wears off either via elapsed time or the start of the fiery tornado phase. Flyers should try to hit at least 1 or 2 rings during the fiery tornado phase to keep their haste buff until the burn phase.

Voracious Hatchlings: Using dodge/parry cooldowns/trinekts while the hatchling is hungry can help prolong the time between tantrums, They are also prone to charge for plump lava worms from a surprising distance so be wary of hitting raid members if you keep the hatching far away from the plump lava worms. Remember that 8 worms spawn total and if any worms are up as you enter the fiery tornado phase they will remain up. It is also possible to pop a Cooldown or two and survive a tantrum's entire duration should no worms be available. DPS after killing the Blazing Talon initiates should dps the Hatchlings as hard as they can. it is very unlikely that the tanks will be able to kill the adds alone even with the 1000% dmg buff. It may be necessary for your flying dps to land and finish off Hatchlings during the last 10-15 seconds before fiery tornado. It can also be effective to send up DoT classes who can DoT alysrazor, and dot the hatchlings as they fly over head, before having to refresh their stacks. Its fairly difficult to target swap so quickly AND maintain stacks but it is possible to gain substantial dps this way.

Kommentar von MiltiadesBooga

Alysrazor yells: Fire...fire...

Settle down, Beavis.

Kommentar von 273673

Male Blazing Talon Initiate: We call upon you, Firelord!
Female Blazing Talon Initiate: Let the unbelievers perish in Fire!"

Every time I hear these lines during the fight, I get chills going down my spine.

Noteworthy lines of the Blazing Talon Initiates during this encounter:
Male
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\FlameDruidMale\\VO_FL_FLAME_DRUID_MALE_ALYSRAZOR_ATTACK_01.ogg")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\FlameDruidMale\\VO_FL_FLAME_DRUID_MALE_ALYSRAZOR_ATTACK_02.ogg")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\FlameDruidMale\\VO_FL_FLAME_DRUID_MALE_ALYSRAZOR_ATTACK_03.ogg")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\FlameDruidMale\\VO_FL_FLAME_DRUID_MALE_ALYSRAZOR_ATTACK_04.ogg")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\FlameDruidMale\\VO_FL_FLAME_DRUID_MALE_ALYSRAZOR_METEOR_01.ogg")
Female
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\FlameDruidFemale\\VO_FL_FLAME_DRUID_FEMALE_ALYSRAZOR_ATTACK_01.ogg")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\FlameDruidFemale\\VO_FL_FLAME_DRUID_FEMALE_ALYSRAZOR_ATTACK_02.ogg")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\FlameDruidFemale\\VO_FL_FLAME_DRUID_FEMALE_ALYSRAZOR_ATTACK_03.ogg")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\FlameDruidFemale\\VO_FL_FLAME_DRUID_FEMALE_ALYSRAZOR_ATTACK_04.ogg")

Kommentar von GraveDiggerX

Strategy Guide:

Below, I have written a guide on the abilities and how we defeated this boss.

Our Group:

Tanks - | Druid | Paladin |
Healers - | Shaman | Druid | Priest |
DPS - | Rogue | Hunter | RPaladin | Mage | SPriest |

General Boss Information:

This boss is a gigantic fire hawk that betrayed her people to gain her power from Ragnaros.
She will fly around her arena in do various abilities, alongside spawning adds to kill her foes.
She has a similar burn phase to Magmaw and is a VERY execution based fight.

Boss Abilities/Strategy:

Alysrazor is engaged by hitting Staghelm or by picking up the lone feather on the ground.
Upon engaging, Alysrazor will fly low to the ground in a straight line from her spawning cave causing a Firestorm as she comes. You will want to prestack to help healing here.
She also blocks the exits with Volcanic Fire, preventing any successful escape.

---Phase 1:

Phase 1 begins shortly after the pull in which she will have Molted and left Feathers on the ground in her wake. By picking up these feathers, you will gain 1/3 of Wings of Flame causing you to run 30% faster per stack and be able to cast while moving.
During this phase you will want 1 person to gain 3 stacks ASAP in order to gain Blazing Power by going through rings in the air à la Star Fox. Once that person reaches 25 stacks, he/she will gain Alysra's Razor, causing his Crit change to increase by 75%.
However, that person must look out for one thing... Firey Farts that she releases periodically. Easily Avoidable.
Meanwhile, on the ground, the other 9 players in the raid will need to deal with adds. 2 Blazing Talon Initiates who spawn periodically and 2 Voracious Hatchlings who only spawn once per phase.
You will want to assign 2 groups of 4. 1 group on each side with a healer going back and forth. 1 Healer/2 DPS (Split interrupters)/1 Tank in order to deal with the adds. 1 Initiate spawns on each side and has minimal health.
The initiates cast 2 abilities. One of which is Brushfire... a non interruptable spell that creates a small ball of fire that scoots around the arena floor. It is very avoidable. The other ability is Fieroblast... an ability that CAN and SHOULD be interrupted. It does moderate fire damage and places a DoT on it's target. Each successful cast of Fieroblast increases the Initiate's subsequent damage.
The Voracious Hatchings spawn shortly after this phase begins and are dropped in an egg via airmail by two phoenix'. You will need to have the tanks go stand by each of these due to it becoming Imprinted on the closest person at hatch. This causes the tank to do 1000% damage against that target... Use CDs appropriately.
Occasionally the Hatchling will become Hungry and have a change to go into a Tantrum. In order to deal with the tantrums, you will want your tanks to kite the birds over Plump Lava Worms which they will in turn eat and become Satiated. 4 Worms spawn at a time around the room and cannot be targeted or DPSed. You just need to watch out for their 360 degree Lava Spew.
This phase will last roughly 3:15 at which time, she will cast Fiery Vortex.

---Phase 1.5:

During this phase/transition, she will summon Fiery Tornados that orbit VERY fastly around the room in different directions. That is why you will want to have everyone grab as many feathers as possible. Do your best to avoid these tornados.
This phase lasts ~15 seconds.

---Phase 2:

Phase 2 is essentially a burn phase in which she is Burnt Out from causing her vortex/tornadoes... increasing her damage taken by 50%.
She will remain in this stage until her blazing power reaches 50. Her inner Spark is what returns her power, at a rate of 3 per 2 seconds.
Also, there will be 2 more adds during this phase which spawn on opposite sides and cast Ignition in an attempt to speed her recovery. You will want to have your tanks lock these down and prevent them from casting this.
In addition, we found it beneficial to stack behind her at the beginning of this phase due to the mechanics of the transition back into P1.

---Phase 2.5:

At 50 Molten Power, she becomes Ignited and raises from the ground. This continues to restore 2 power per second.
At this time she will also Buffet the raid causing mild fire damage every second. (Hence the stacking)
She must be tanked during this phase due to Blazing Claw which causes high amounts of damage. You don't want this in the raid, so have your tank face her the opposite direction.
Once she reaches Full Power, she will knock all players back like at the beginning and Phase 1 will begin again.

Rinse and Repeat

Tips:

Try and coordinate your interrupts for P1... this will give you the most trouble.
Have your tanks use Offensive CDs on the Hatchlings. It is imperative that they die before the tornadoes.
SPriests/Fire Mages are great for the air.
The tanks take a @#$% ton of damage, but since you get 10% mana back per ability during the burn phase... use your big heals to keep them up.
Watch my video, I feel it should help a lot.

I wish you the best of luck, and feel free to critique my post and ask any questions.

Please uprate if this helped at all!

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~Wrex | Pseudonym | Executus-US

Kommentar von 534473

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but there IS an enrage timer of sorts. The third time you reach phase 4, she will emote as being unable to reignite fully. At this point, phase 4 will continue indefinitely and although the damage doesn't seem to actually increase over time, your healers will probably go oom eventually from the tank and raid damage.

Kommentar von AnsBremen

Tank has to do about 120-130k dps to kill Hatchling all alone. This means about 11-12k dps without debuff.
Soooo.... no undergeared tanks at this encounter or trading avoidance/hp for DPS stats?

Kommentar von 439762

For tornadoes:

Interface > Camera > Set Camera Following Style > Only Horizontal When Moving

Edit: Okay I don't know what all the sudden downrating is about but I always died to tornadoes with the default camera settings. This really helped me, now I always live through tornadoes. If you think this is the wrong camera angle to use for this fight why don't you just reply with how you think it should be done?

Kommentar von Ravilious

Is there a Quest or Daily in the game anywhere where someone can practice the flying mechanic used in this fight?

Kommentar von ZelosRaine

Downed this a few nights ago on Ysondre-US

Tanks: Pally and DK (me)
Heals: Shammy, Druid, Pally
Dps: Priest (up-top with boss), Arcane Mage, Fury Warrior, Frost DK, Marksman Hunter

As far as the different perspectives went,

Tanks found that marking the (rough) locations on where the adds in the burnout phase dropped helped to insure we did not both try to pick up the same druid, hatchling, worms, etc. Generally speaking, we each focused on survival while trying to remain aware that we needed to kill hatchlings. Although I was always late to kill mine, it wasn't the end of the world to be killing it as we went into the tornadoes, as it would always die before they started rotating. I generally saved my cds as much as possible, feeding my hatchling a worm whenever it enraged, and blew several cds for the last 10-15% of its life when it was enraged without a worm to feed it. I always saved Ice Bound (50% damage reduction cd), however, for tanking the boss in the fourth phase. Other than that, I made sure to call when I had the bleed debuff. Imo, it is very important to drop this debuff A.S.A.P. as having it and an enrage can rng kill you. Of course, you need to call the debuff for you healer so they know what's up (I made a PowerAura to show me when I had it, made everything much easier). Finally, I tanked the bird with my back against the wall so it wouldn't eat worms when it wasn't supposed to.

Dps needs to be split by interrupts and should help out on hatchlings whenever possible. Of course, the tank is the only one who can do substantial damage, but extra dps doesn't hurt. Just don't do it at the expense of killing and interrupting your add. If you are flying, good luck to you because I have no idea what happens up there.

Healers felt they might have been able to two heal it with a more geared tank (Pally is main spec tank, but I am off spec and took significantly more damage :*( but, whatever). In any case, the area is too big to have a healer running back and forth. We put two heals on my side because I took more damage and the other healer just had to deal with it :P.

As far as the phases go, first phase is the most complicated, second phase involves running in circles (pick a tornado, follow it, turn and follow the next that comes by the opposite direction, repeat), third phase, either first or second, is hero time, and fourth phase is blow all your raid wide healing cds and personal cds.

It is a VERY long fight. We took 11mins, and, without a very high ilvl relative to the boss, I don't see it taking less than 9-10 unless you can send 2 people up top (probably dropping a healer).

Best of luck!

Kommentar von Kanariya

The flying mechanic of the fight is definitely the best aspect to it. I have to say, this was the only fight I enjoyed wiping on during progression because it meant I got more time to fly around casting shadow bolts and dotting her up with tons of haste and crit. Probably not as fun for the ground people though. =p

Kommentar von Hanz0

pro tip : let a shadowpriest take the flying role. if he`s half decent each time she flies close to the ground he can cast shadowfiend on one of the angry birdies making it a bit easier for the people on the ground

also after tornado phase during the burn phase when you get bloodlust and you`ll have the increase crit chance buff from rings what does this mean?

it means something very simple you get to have not one, not two, but THREE shadowfiends up during this phase because of mind flay critting almost 100% of time and because its casted in 1 second meaning 3 crits per second reducing your shadowfiend cooldown by 30 seconds on each cast making you able to cast shadowfiend almost every 10 seconds and if you have the 2piece set bonus this will make your dps skyrocket !

Kommentar von Iroared

Since there are no comments on heroic version, and the description doesn't explain it well, here's what happens (10man):

Phase 1 repeats 3 times, but each time is much shorter. Hatchlings have way less health (~7M), but there is still barely enough time to kill them. First time 4 initiates are spawned (2 then 2 again), with different timings; second time, east gets 2 initiates while west gets one; third time, only one is spawned on west side. They cast brushfire twice before each fireoblast, making it slightly easier to interrupt (10 second cd is barely enough), but resulting in much more fire moving around.
Also, an invincible herald spawns in the middle and launches two slow moving boulders in random directions. They have around 160k health, and, when killed, stay on the ground, providing a way to LOS the aoe. On the third phase 1, ignore the boulders (still stay away from them as they one-shot).
Between the phase 1's the remaining druids shield themselves (and don't cast anything else), the boss does a 5 second cast after which everyone not behind a boulder will quickly die. The animation on the ground shows the direction of the aoe (similar to Altairus), so does looking up at the boss. After third phase 1, the aoe is not cast. During the aoe, remaining initiates shield themselves and don't cast anything, so you don't have to sacrifice yourself to finish them off.

After phase 1 repeats three times, the other 3 phases follow, and they are identical to their normal versions.
After that, the whole thing repeats, but there is even less time for each phase 1.

The boss has 78M total health and someone good at flying is very important here, while the others do their best at surviving on the ground.

Kommentar von 789375

Our guild have already downed this boss once but last night after about 10 attempts we were experiencing a number of issues with p2 that we never had before until tonight and no we weren't having problems with tornado's we were seeing a few unexpected deaths which we believe is from Harsche Winde but not 100% sure. I died 2/10 times from this but what confuses me is that i run basically in the same place everytime which is the two most outer rings and most the time i'm fine. Another situation happen before the tornadoes spawned we just entered phase 2, we had a warrior and healer standing right next to each other on the edge ring waiting for tornado's to spawn, all the sudden our warrior gets the debuff and dies in seconds while our healer is left untouch. If this is a range problem then why doesn't it seem to effect everyone out of range and why hasn't it happen on all the attempts?

Kommentar von Chaosinfintium

All the comments about how to dodge the tornadoes and not one, not a single one takes the simple approach.

Look at Sartharion from WotLK, remember those nasty annoying Lava Waves?
Apply the exact same approach, be attentive and... step forwards and backwards. Ta da.
Don't need Ovals, or circles, or squares. At best you're doing a zig-zag or a curved line, backwards and forwards.

Kommentar von 834605

Does anyone know how often will voraciuos hatchlings attack when they're in tantrum?
I'm asking because I had some stupid wipes with me die in 2-3 seconds It took me to get to a lava worm and get tantrum off (and I'm not exactly undergeared 93.6% parry + dodge + block +miss unbuffed ).
My guess is that my healer was chasing dps to dispell the fieroblaststs and kept barely range of me (confident that I didn't need the healing ) and was out of range when i moved in for the worm , or started casting a large heal that landed too late (or didn't landed because I moved out of range) or a combination of both.
Hatchling have a normal speed attack speed of 2 sec( but I'm not sure ), tantrum should have it to 1 sec and speed debuff 20% should be 1.2 sec. so in the worst case scenario in ~ 3 sec i get 3 full hits (with 50% extra dmg)
Is that enough dmg to kill a tank (198k hp) or something went really wrong.

Kommentar von anotherone

For this fight, we had both our tanks (warrior/dk) switch out a couple pieces to get the hit and expertise cap (8% and 26 respectively). This seems to allow your dps to mostly focus on the initiates with tanks killing or coming very close to killing before the tornado phase. If it continues to be an issue with one not killing fast enough, a rogue throwing tricks on one of the tanks should be more than enough.

Sometimes the hatchlings won't tantrum immediately after the satiated buff wears off, but you should still be close enough to your worm that within 2 sec he can eat a worm. It's a frustrating tank fight at first, but the second you beat it once it's much easier to gauge.

Kommentar von 837005

We tried 3heal/2tank/1flyer/4interrupter and 2heal/2tank/2flyer/4interrupter setups also.

But it is so far the hardest boss in our guild's history, we spent a lot of time without success (his normal mode beated Sindragosa HC / Blood Princes HC / Prof HC old record keepers :) ). The fight is quite long and there are always 1 ppl dead and from that point it is undoable. I hope we kill him soon. :(

PS: We don't have problems with hatchling deaths in time or interrupts, just some randopm hurricane / lava worm breath 1-shot, tank death...

Kommentar von Elfeaterdk

I've just written a complete guide for downing this boss on 10man normal, which I will properly expand for 25man once it get approved.

Hope you guys will like the guide, as it's the first one I've written.

Kommentar von 844373

In-depth guide to what the air phase is like in 10m normal - guild hasn't done heroic yet, and we didn't have any ranged that knew how to fly one week...so I ended up going up as enhance...wrote this out for the ranged for that so they would understand, hope it helps for others as well.

This guide is written assuming you already know the other aspects of the fight. If people so wish it, I will add the other aspects of the fight in this guide as well as the fight's PoV from the ground.

THINGS TO NOTE: Wings of Flame buff (the 3 feather stacks buff) lasts for 30 seconds, and is refreshed each time you successfully go through a ring. This means you have 30 seconds until the you plummet from the sky (if you keep missing rings). For each ring you go through, you gain 8% haste + mana/runic power/energy/rage regen. This stacks up to 25. Once you go through 25 rings, you get a buff that grants you 75% crit chance - this stacks with your current crit, and you can go over 100%. This buff has a 40 second duration and will get refreshed after each ring you go through. Each set of rings will only last for about 3 seconds before they fade away. If you happen to miss 1 ring early or mid fight, don't fret; you aren't going to lose stacks or fall to your death unless you hit a cloud or miss 7 rings in a row (7 rings was before the 9/20 patch. Now if you miss 10 rings in a row you will faceplant into the ground).

^Wings of Flame buff now lasts 30 seconds, up from 20 seconds, since the 9/20/11 patch.

WHAT TO FLY THROUGH - RINGS. You will know when you go through a ring because there will be a fireworks effect inside the inner circle of the ring when you do.

WHAT NOT TO FLY THROUGH - Giant cheese balls of death. Hitting one WILL cause you to plummet from the sky.

ROUNDS OF RINGS: For simplistic purposes, I will use ratios as Cheese balls:Rings

Round 1 - Poops out 9 1:1s. Simple enough.
Coming down from round 1 - Poops out one more 1:1 before she flies through the center to poop out 3 2:1s (the 2:1s are in a straight line). Most of the time the 2:1s will have the ring in the center; however, it may be on one of the sides.
Round 2 - Poops out 9 2:1s. Easy enough. They look like tilted Vs on their side.
Coming down from round 2 - Poops out 1 more 2:1 ratio like the ones above then 3 2:1s that are in a straight line again. The second line of 2:1s she poops out during cleaving is the EARLIEST you will have 25 stacks of rings if you made it through each one by this point.
Round 3 - 10 3:1 ratios. Seems to be ring first followed by 3 cheese balls in a triangle formation.
Tornado phase: 6 sets of 3 rings each. There will be one ring in each lane of the tornadoes - there are 4 lanes of tornadoes. If you went through the 10th ring of round 3(or even better, the first set of 3 rings before tornadoes spawn), do not worry about the first 5 (4) sets of rings - your buff will still have 7 seconds left on it when the last set of rings spawn. The 6th set of rings will spawn just as the tornadoes start dissipating. Make sure you refresh here or else you lose out on 200% haste and 75% crit during burn phase.

TOTAL NUMBER OF RINGS: 54. The total number of rings you will go through if you don't miss ANY during Rounds 1-3 and tornado phase will be 42, although only if you skip the first 5 in tornado phase you will end up going through 39. If you do not hit this number, don't worry...just make sure you end up with 25 stacks of rings by the end of the fight so you get the 75% crit buff.

WHAT NOT TO DO: DO NOT fly in front of bird while she is cleaving through the center. You WILL cleave yourself. The cleave hits for about 55k per hit (this is with fire resist up) before the debuff kicks in for subsequent hits. As ranged this will not be a problem. Although you do need to refresh your buff during tornado phase, DO NOT try to do it mid phase. You will only end up running into tornadoes and taking avoidable damage. The tornado phase lasts 30 seconds - as long as you got the 10th ring in round 3 of rings / the 1st ring of tornado phase, you can ignore the rest until the last set of rings (6th set) in tornado phase.

NOTE TO SHAMANS FLYING: You will NOT benefit from your totems AT ALL during air phase - she will keep flying out of ranged of your totems unless you plant your totems in the center of her flight pattern. Even then, searing totem and magma totem will be out of range of hitting her.

Kommentar von nater131

Hotfix 9/20
Health and damage have been reduced by 25% on normal difficulty. Health and damage have been reduced by 15% on Heroic difficulty.
Alysrazor now drops 1 additional feather in 10-player mode and 2 additional feathers in 25-player mode in all cycles.
The Wings of Flame buff duration on Alysrazor is now uniformly 30 seconds.
Alysrazor’s Fiery Tornados now move slower.

Kommentar von Fuzzywiggles

Not too sure when health pools get updated on wowhead but when we did alys last night on 10m normal i wrote down her new HP. As long as my ability to read my own writing is up to par her new hp on 10m normal is 41,228,160

Kommentar von gemanoma

I miss Alysra! I don't want kill Alysrazor! :'(.

Kommentar von Antox

Alysrazor has a huge hitbox and it is possible to attack Alysrazor as a melee during the tornado phase each time she passes.

Kommentar von Elfeaterdk

Heroic tactics for 10man now also up in the Guide system

Kommentar von cywang86

Easy steps for hatchling tanks:

GRAB A FEATHER! It helps you immensely and no ground dps should get it before you do
Divide the east and west worms using Alysrazor's Blazing Claws. World raid mark the safe zones between your first sets of worms. (to prevent early accidental worm usage)
Do not move the hatchling unless you're moving to the safe zone or the worms. Your healers will thank you for not having to choose between fire or watch you die.
When the hatchlings spawn, drag them to the previously marked safe zones
Wait 3~10 seconds after it's hungry, depending on gear, or as soon as you see it's having a tantrum before consuming the first worm.
If you're on normal mode, 50% dmg redution through the tantrum between first and second worm
Repeat 5 for the second worm, and keep the hatchling there or you'll risk wasting one of your new spawns
Repeat 5 and 7 for the next set of worms (Normal) or the next two sets of hatchlings (HM).

Some other tips:

The safe zone and two hatchlings triangle movement makes you so much more predictable for your healers. They should never have to chase you across the map and risk getting killed by fire again.
DON'T TOUCH THE FIRE! Fire is the leading cause of tank death, or anyone's for that matter. Raid eating a gushing > you getting hit by any form of fire damage
Dornen! When glyphed and cast on CD by a feral, it's easily 10k dps.
Prioritize eating the left worm (right when facing out), it helps the initiate groups to maneuver around their targets.
Pop your dps CD! Zornige Vergeltung, Berserker, Innere Wut, Runenwaffe verstärken, Schildblock. The faster you get them dead, the better.

Kommentar von Omniwolph

Alysra used to be an Emerald Drake who betrayed her allies and brought Staghelm to Ragnaros, and as reward she became a Fire Hawk.

Kommentar von redterror117

Chasing the tornadoes seems to help quite a bit. Especially if you're lucky enough to have a ring spawn on top of you ;)
Did this the first time in FL and I was one of the few to survive the test run, lol

Kommentar von 798034

guaranteed people will wipe on this fight a few times.

mostly to Tornados in the fiery vortex part.
my advice for tornados is simple.. wait for one to appear then follow it. once another tornado passes by it on the left or right side do a 180* turn (turn around) and chase that one instead. The nerfed tornado speed makes this quite manageable.

if u are a flyer/ mage be sure to grab rings of flame while kiting the tornados (although try not to endanger yourself by eating a tornado and dying at the same time).

once she burns out u have till 50 energy to blow cds and burn the hell outta her.

a very smart mage will combust during this part just before the 50 energy to ensure maximum dps.

afterwards be sure to stack with your group (and not the tank by accident lol unless u wanna get cleaved and die). and wait for feathers from the middle to appear. the cycle repeats itself.

some flying tips:

zoom out ur camera so u can see rings better. its best to move immediatly once u see a ring. u have a mere 3 seconds before it vanishes.

some people will say rings vanish if a person touches one so 2 people shouldnt go up or they will use the other persons rings. this is a lie. rings do not vanish if 2 people interact with them. they just vanish after 3 seconds. it has been proven.

when alysrazor dips low and spawns rings do not get super close to her.. u wanna look carefully for rings and not fire waves.. the most important part of flying is getting 25 stacks and keeping that.. if u lose it.. u are in for a long fight.

and mostly if u have DMC:V and stuff like lightweave power torrent try not to dps aly during the fiery tornados only collect rings.. ur cooldowns should align by the burnout phase and stack properly for more dps. better than wasting them while u are running around.

ground people:
ranged avoid the fiery waves and brushfire coming at you and look carefully for initiates.. they spawn 2 on either side but sometimes u gotta really look for em.. u can also dps hatchlings once ur done with the druids. also interrupt their fiery blast if u can.

and one final tip.
sometimes healers will grab feathers just so they can cast while moving.. only 1 feather per healer is needed but be sure to get them only after the 1-2 flyers go up first.

Kommentar von 865803

Went with a competent group on my hunter for the first time. I did not know the fight at all, and I was instructed "just chase the tornado and DPS the druids".

So the fight started and it was not that intense. Not until the tornadoes. I was so inexperienced and almost got burnt to death. But I must tell you, our healers were kicking ass. They saved my noob ass during the tornado period and managed to stay alive. After 10 minutes, I have already blown 4 Rapid Fires already and it was close to the end.

I pressed on and fought hard. Killed many druids and stayed alive. In the end, everyone was so pumped to kill this bird. We were all time warped and everyone blew their CD's. And it was killed.

I couldn't believe it. It was my first try, and we downed this #$%^&. And I thought to myself, wow...this is the most epic fight I have ever fought in WoW. It wasn't the Lich King, it wasn't Magmaw, certainly not Nefarian, but Alysrazor.

Wow....it was epic.

Kommentar von Euphemia

Another Flaskaholics stratvideo is up, also post-nerfs, and it does indeed show how this fight is probably slightly undertuned - but then again, Blizzard wants the masses to get in there - so there it is, as it is. You should all get in there, as there shouldn't be much holding people back now.

In this particular video, the rogue is alone on Initiates on one side, and has no binding on her kick, so didn't really get to interrupt the (now) so few Fieroblasts - but still...

Good luck, peeps!

Kommentar von 806819

Tip for mages download the addon name CombustionHelper it really helps to do a combustion huge dps when u fly :D
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Kommentar von Unrage

The theme of this boss - Druids of the Flame - seems to be the most wonderful song ever!
In case you wanna hear it:
http://wowimg.zamimg.com/wowsounds/sound/music/cataclysm/mus_42_druidsoftheflamea_hero_uu01.mp3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXcAWY-V6kE

Ps: We call upon you, Firelord!

Kommentar von Jhoff

When starting this fight, make sure that everyone have a vanity-pet out, and then move to the back of the room, stack up and then start the fight by having someone (maybe hunter pet) move to Majordomo. When he drags everyone in and root them, the pets following the raid behind looks awesome =D

Heroisch		Mythisch
Tödlich		Wichtig
Tank		DPS
Heiler		Unterbrechbar
Magie		Fluch
Gift		Krankheit
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