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Kommentar von 52121

That is an insane amount of hit on one item.

Stats and dps are looking to be quite spectacular on high end WotLK items -- can't wait to see the purples.

Kommentar von 12184

Dualwield these when leveling as mutilate = sweet!

Kommentar von Infuria

this dagger is insanely good. it crushes my t6 daggers. 1.4 speed. great stats. remember, the faster the better FOR BOTH HANDS if you're mutilate. all about poison.

Kommentar von 220785

This is not a good weapon for Mutilate rogues. DW 2 Saronite Ambushers for that, you want as slow a weapon as possible. This weapon is a good OH for Combat rogues, as it is fast so Combat Potency procs more.

Kommentar von 220785

That said, you could probably use them if you got them for 20g each like I did ;)

Kommentar von 139710

I've noticed something about mutilate and weapon speeds.

I can, through haste gear, food, and slice and dice, get my attack speed up to 1.2 and I find that its pretty sweet in pvp when you manage to stunlock your victim.

Its not that hard either.

Cheap shot, slice and dice, mutilate, mutilate, kidney shot... you get the picture.

With a high enough crit, you won't have to worry too much about energy. Though the problem arises when your intended victim trinkets. I've found that the best way to deal with opponents in pvp is to shock and awe them. Drop their life down so fast they don't know what to do. Doesn't always work but hey.

Kommentar von 148782

Probably one of the most over-used weapon models in the entire game, with 20 others so far T_T

Kommentar von 185032

Stats on this are supposed to change as of 3.0.8.

Patch notes:

The following crafted weapons have had their stats adjusted to properly reflect their intended power:

Old Stats, just for the record:
Saronite Shiv
Binds when equippedOne-Hand Dagger
122 - 183 Damage Speed 1.40
(108.9 damage per second)
Durability 65 / 65
Requires Level 76
Equip: Improves hit rating by 55 (2.25% @ L76).
Equip: Increases your expertise rating by 20 (3.27 @ L76).
Equip: Increases attack power by 56.

Kommentar von 138482

Does this beat Vengance Shiv https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=44028 ? I know this one has hit rating and it slightly faster so I'm assuming possibly, but the dps isn't as high on this one so I'm not sure.

Kommentar von 308521

It's been nerfed... :(

has
35 hit
15 expertise
40 attack power

Kommentar von 97910

So is dual wielding this thing still viable or not?

Kommentar von 286621

PVE wise that is, slow is still the best option for PVP :) since its all burst based.

But soloing while leveling is more like PVP than raid DPS, which the spreadsheets model: In the mid 70s most of the time you're bursting down one or two mobs with 10-12K HP each, then you restealth, regen energy and go kill something else (preferably while Remorseless Attacks is still active.) Poison procs and Focused Attacks have much less of an impact in 10 second fights than they do in 1+ minute fights, and our crit rate while leveling is much lower than when raiding, further reducing the value of Focused attacks.

It's just anecdotal, but while soloing my Recount shows Eviscerate, Mutilate and Ambush as my top damage dealers compared to Melee, Mutilate and Poisons while instancing. Soloing non elites results in a completely different damage profile.

So for soloing, go for the hardest hitting daggers you can get your hands on like Saronite Ambusher and Wodin's Second-Best Shanker or the daggers from instances at your level.

I agree that dual wielding Saronite Shivs will improve your performance while instancing and the mats are cheap so I would suggest getting a pair made for that. Not only is the speed better but the stats are about optimum for instancing at that level.

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Gegenstandsstufe 171
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Einhändig	Dolch

122 - 183 Schaden	Tempo 1.40

(108.93 Schaden pro Sekunde)
Haltbarkeit 65 / 65

Benötigt Stufe 76
Anlegen: Erhöht die Trefferwertung um 35.
Anlegen: Erhöht die Angriffskraft um 40.
Anlegen: Erhöht Eure Waffenkundewertung um 15.

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