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Kommentar von smcn

This is the penultimate boss of Naxxramas, and can only be fought once all 4 wings are cleared. More information can be found at http://www.wowwiki.com/Sapphiron.

Kommentar von 913

Some of the items not listed on Sapphiron:

The Restrained Essence of Sapphiron
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=23046

Claw of the Frost Wyrm
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=23242

Sapphiron's Left Eye
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=23049

Kommentar von 3118

The basic premise is FrR and LoS. Hands down, he has the coolest spawn graphic in the game.

He drops a ton of loot. Enchants, items, ego.

Kommentar von 4922

Having only 1.3 mil is a bit weak though.

Kommentar von 6569

Set-Up!:
FROST RESISTANCE. Setup the raid for a balanced fight, but with FROST RESISTANCE. LOTS OF FROST RESISTANCE. Oh, and cold protection potions and of course consumables. FROST RESISTANCE. If you can see the theme here, Frost Resistance is very important in this encounter.

Skills:
Frost Immunity: Frost spells do no damage or have any affect on Sapphiron.

Flight:
He will fly in the air after 35 seconds of fighting to do five Icebolts and one ice breath then land for seventy seconds before doing it again.

Icebolt: Does 2625-3375ish damage with a moderate splash. The attack will stun you for three seconds. It can proc an Ice Block like affect putting you in a protective block of ice for 22 seconds but keeping you from moving or attacking.

Frost Breath: A slow moving attack launched from the air (before Sapphiron lands) that is aimed towards the middle of the room. The attack will hit the ground then “splash” outward. Those who are Ice Blocked from his Icebolt are immune along with anyone hiding behind them (being effectively out of LoS).

Frost Aura: Does 600 frost damage every second or so. Can be partially resisted.

Life Drain: Drains life and heals Sapphiron, simply remove the curse to prevent this.

Blizzard: A beefed up Mage’s Blizzard, simply stand out of it to be safe. It will slow you down.

Tactics:
This is like an Onyxia fight, except well instead of Onyxia you have a giant Frostwyrm who wants to rain ice down upon you. Tactics for this fight will differ and only the knowledge of combat with this beast can lead to its defeat. The best suggestion to start out with is to try tanking Sapphiron until he flys then have your raid stand behind anyone who is Ice Blocked to keep safe from his Frost Breath.

Kommentar von AWRyder

According to a database i have here, this are some details i have about sapphiron, but, they might not be correct!

Entry ID: 15989
Model ID: 16033
Rank: 3 ( Boss )
Type: 6 ( too lazy to check but should be either dragonlike or giant xD, ill edit this later ) Edit: Ermm, i guess it was undead after all. =/

Level: 63
Faction: 14
Health: 2907132
Mana: 75693
Scale: 2.2 of the normal scale, being 1 = normal.
Damage: 2550 - 2800 with 1480 miliseconds of delay.
Ranged damage: 965.517 - 879.31 with 1700 miliseconds of delay.
Armor and resistances: Null

Once again, this data might not be correct but should be near the real ones :)

Kommentar von 82522

Massive FR needed for this fight farmed off other bosses in naxx.

Kommentar von zdravko

this guy doesn't eat his vegetables :D

Kommentar von 116381

He has 4 million hp

Kommentar von loragheta

there was frost resistance gear.... it comes from naxx

Kommentar von 79477

Spamming Renew as a priest at level 70 is incredibly effective here. Up to 10 targets can be Renewed at once (though mana is an issue if you cast that often), doing slightly less healing than the Aura does on those 10 people. I'd guess a single Druid would be able to keep 10 people up with Rejuv spam and fairly high +heals. Pre-HoTing should not be underestimated in this fight.

Kommentar von 82522

ZOMG IM AN ICECUBE GET BEHIND ME!

Kommentar von kt0rse

The single most coolest (pun not intended) boss in Naxxramas instance.

As it seems, the ice blocks behind which you have to hide from his devastating ability, the Frost Breath, is a bit bugged. So to be completely sure that you are in the right position when he casts Frost Breath try attacking him from behind the ice block, if it says "Target not in the line of sight." then you are safe. Other than that, stay out of the Blizzards and use your mana rationally and you should be fine.

Kommentar von 178151

Sapphiron was a blue dragon in northrend but arthas killed him and made him his servant

Kommentar von Erlinn

Beta testers have found a place ingame where the cinematic is thought to have taken place (tall cliff overlooking a large canyon, etc.) with a big ol' hole in the ground where a frost wyrm could have sprung from the ice, and it's called "Sindragosa's Fall". This has lead to the conclusion that the wyrm in the cinematic is, indeed, Sindragosa.

Kommentar von XilDarkz

Further elaboration on Erlinn's post:

Sindragosa's Fall seems like the name of an area where she died, and she is a notable dragon to die. In the cinematic, it is speculated that you see the Lich King's revival of her into his command.

She will possibly be the Illidan of Wrath, while Arthas himself will be the Kil'Jaeden.

Kommentar von 29778

On a series of quest in Icecrown, you get a cut-scene after a quest in Sindragosa's Fall. Arthas raises Sindragosa from the ice in the cut-scene. So the frost wrym in WotLK cinematic is supposedly Sindragosa as the cut-scene precisely shows the same event as the cinematic.

Kommentar von 51372

One of the longest-awaited for bosses/encounters to be unveiled (given the 4-horsemen took foreverrr). But, the opening scene when the encounter is initiated tells the whole story behind how well-thought this encounter was (even though it was basically a resistance/gear check)

Kommentar von 236106

has one of the most kick-ass entrance animations for a boss ever, i mean flying bones, who'd ever thought of that

Kommentar von Dubilas

Did anyone fight him already in wotlk? If so, is fr needed at all?

Thanks in advance...

Kommentar von Fugazi

We tried him on 10 man and we just get completely destroyed. We haven't got any problems with any boss before so... My friend in other guild have exactly same problem - they are destroyed and got him most to like 85%.

The problem is healing, so much is needed that our 3 healers could not handle it at all - they are going oom in no time. I do not know what is the problem but this boss seems to be nightmare compared to all bosses before him.

EDIT: So 2 months passed and I dig this. We killed him like week later quite easily and tactic was simply "all non-healers go craft one piece of FrR set". Add FrR aura/totem to that and you will sit on 200+ FrR (healers on 130) which will help a lot. However keep in mind that more than once piece will nerf your dps too much and healers cannot really equip this at all as they need their stats for this fight.

Kommentar von Asora

In 10 man he does 1200 Frost damage each sec to everyone in the raid before slain.
In 25 man he does 1600 Frost damage each sec to everyone in the raid before slain.
Sapphiron has approximately 4,250,000 hit points in the 10 man version.
And has approximately 11,870,000 hit points in the 25 man version.

I would imagine it beeing easyer to do without Frost res in the 25man version as you bring more healers and different classes, in the 10man you bring at most 3 healers and 1-2 aoe healers, my guild 1 shoted every wing in nax and we had problems at sapp due to the healers still beeing in t5-6 and partly heroic gear.

We're giving it another try tomorrow with everyone in full frost res gear, wich is by the way easy obtainable with cheap and few mats.(Think blizzard are aiming these sets for the casual 10 man progressing guilds)
These sets are called
Plate - Icebane
Belt - https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=43587
Boots - https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=43588
Chest - https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=43586

Leather - Polar
Belt - https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=43591
Boots - https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=43592
Chest - https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=43590

Mail - Icy Scale
Belt - https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=43594
Boots - https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=43595
Chest - https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=43593

Cloth - Glacial
Belt - https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=43584
Boots - https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=43585
Chest - https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=43583

Hope this helps for some, other then the damage over time, he is basicly a tank & spank with blizzard around the room, phase two is just spreading out at start and running behind two players beeing "Ice tombed" to Line of sight he's "Deep breath" wich is a frost bomb he puts in the middle of the room shortly after freezeing two random players of the raid.

Asora - Invisus

Kommentar von 94427

Big note: If a melee type is still attacking Sapphiron in the air and gets ice blocked, make sure you aren't touching the ice block when the frost breath (bomb) hits, or you will still get hit. Leave some space between it.

This is coming from experience. I've seen people humping the block trying to melee Sapphiron with some auto attacks through it who then got pwned, while others behind the same block survived.

Kommentar von 235903

Hello,

Kaoswarr said in 2006 "Frost Immunity: Immune to any frost based attacks."

Does anyone know if this is still true? We have not reached him yet but i was wondering if I could tank him as a Frost DK. I think Acclimation would help alot in this fight, or am I going to have to respec blood because he is immune to 70% of my dmg?

Kommentar von 27710

in wrath you no longer see resist for spell misses, you see the actual miss message.

IE as a priest if I cast Mind Blast at this boss and my 0 hit in holy gear causes the spell to miss, I see just that, a miss. But if say I'm dueling another priest who has Shadow Protection up (130+resistance), and the spell is resisted, I see just that, a resist message.

Blizzard most likely did this to help people better understand that Resist used to mean you weren't hit capped, and were stacking penetration believing it would reduce/eliminate resist messages.

TLDR: If a frost dk/mage is seeing the word RESIST, the boss has resistance, if they are seeing MISS they need more +hit gear

Kommentar von lormus

Info on his resistance to frost is definitely untrue as of live build. He does have frost resistance.

I'm seeing 17% of my frosbolts resisted and I'm hit capped.

Kommentar von 116607

The answer is on this page https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/spell=28531 - its every second according to this. Honestly I didnt really notice the time interval myself, I was more focused on healing the damage taken (I was the one posting we did it with 2 priests on our first run with totem/aura only).

The raid does take a lot of damage, especially if DPS dont help the healers. They can help the healers by doing two things:
1: Stay out of blizzard and avoid tail swipe - and dont get cleaves. This is pretty obvious and should be basic for every DPS - but sadly its not always, so be sure to remind people.
2: Stay in groups. This can be a bit tricky from time to time as people have to run from blizzards - but with a little coordination its not a problem really. What we did the first time was making 2 camps - a melee camp and a caster camp. We gave a raidmark to a player in each camp and told everyone else to follow that guy as much as possible - we then assigned our priests to each their camp, both healing the maintank too.

This encounter was lot easier than what it felt like on our first try where healing felt really hard and people took a lot of damage. However, when we sorted the healing and the DPSers helped us out (what I wrote above) he went down fairly easy.

Kommentar von 116607

I disagree. If Naxx was an end-game instance (agian ^^) I would agree that it would be ok if FR was needed - but the instance in general is simply too easy to justify the need for spending lots of gold on crafting frost resist gear for the whole raid.

Kommentar von 149749

Currently there is a situation during the fight that allows Blizzard to continue during the air phase. This can become extremely irritating because the raid needs to stay behind an ice block to avoid death, but at the same time a blizzard is WTF pwning everyone with nothing we can do. Originally, my group was very frustrated that luck was part of the boss fight. After reading comments here and watching videos, there a few solutions that you can use if this happens to be the case during the fight. One way is to just have your healers AoE heal you (really only a solution if you're overgeared for the instance). Another is to start the air phase at one side of the room, then run as fast as you can to the other side so that the blizzard will take awhile to catch up to you. Finally, staying somewhat spread out not only makes it so that fewer people are hit by the ice bolt AoE but also forces the blizzard to keep switching targets so that it is only one one person instead of an entire group. Waiting to collapse only after the second ice bolt allows maximum distance between your group and the blizzard before he does his frost breath. Hopefully this helps anyone who is having similar problems. But yes, luck is somewhat part of this encounter. Welcome to the Malchezzar of Naxx :)

Kommentar von airtonix

considering we all dinged 80 the same week.

You forget to mention your in full t6 with the best enchants and gems.

Possibly you also like to forget mentioning you ran heroics all that week for badge gear upgrades.

Kommentar von 279910

16 wipes yesterday.. this is NOT cake. we were two healers, restoration shaman and holy paladin.
If you want to do this with only two healers, please take a restoration druid with you. It is important to have persons to focus on the curses. Restoration druids have HoT's and decurse. These are two of the most important spells at this boss.

Kommentar von 280962

My answer to why people have very different experiences with this encounter (feel free to disagree)---

Bottom line: sometimes his aura does tick every second, other times it does not.

Explanation:
Sapphiron's frost aura does not act the same from raid to raid. It could be a recent hot fix or just bad luck or maybe it could vary within the encounter.

The first few times my guild fought this guy, we downed him no problem. In a recent attempt, we wiped numerous times. In looking at combat logs, here is what I found from the easier previous nights' combat logs:

Time 0:00 Hit by frost aura.
Time 0:01 Frost aura is refreshed.
Time 0:02 Hit by frost aura.
Time 0:03 Frost aura is refreshed.
..etc

Thus, the aura was hitting every two seconds.

In the recent failed tries:

Time 0:00 Hit by frost aura.
Time 0:01 Hit by frost aura.
Time 0:02 Hit by frost aura.
Time 0:03 Hit by frost aura.
Time 0:03.2 Frost aura is refreshed.
Time 0:04 Hit by frost aura.

Here, it is hitting every second.

Note, I simplified the combat text to make it easy to understand and also note that there is some variety within each log, but this is generally what I saw.

Conclusion: if you are getting hit every second, might need 3 healers or some FR gear, or a great strategy with two healers. Good luck!

Kommentar von 156857

Never stand behind an iceblocked gnome if you have a toon more than a feet high.

Kommentar von 218492

paly FR aura and Totems dont stack

Kommentar von 107659

well me and my guild are doing him atm and well we arnt doing to gd, am wondering if anyone has any general tips as we are struggling as the aura is our main prob we have the 130 resistance and is putting alot of presure onto our healers.

Kommentar von 173718

But he does have frost resistance, making any frost dps a detriment to your burn. Even as a mage, I have to say it's in any raid's best interest to sit frost mages and frost DKs for this fight.

Kommentar von 287739

Yep. The above statement.....

No, he is no longer immune to frost spells or abilities, nor is he resistant to it. Frost DKs and mages have no problem anymore.

...is utterly and completely false.

While not immune, he is indeed highly resistant to frost spells.... just a short wws parse quote...

21:10'46.719 Malkinorr Frostbolt hits Sapphiron for 5112 Frost. (Critical) (539 Resisted)
21:10'49.656 Malkinorr Frostbolt was fully resisted by Sapphiron.
21:10'57.188 Malkinorr Frostbolt hits Sapphiron for 3222 Frost. (Critical) (1358 Resisted)
21:10'59.922 Malkinorr Frostbolt hits Sapphiron for 3860 Frost. (Critical) (1084 Resisted)
21:11'04.359 Malkinorr Frostbolt hits Sapphiron for 4404 Frost. (Critical) (795 Resisted)
21:11'07.438 Malkinorr Frostbolt misses Sapphiron.
21:11'09.438 Malkinorr Frostbolt hits Sapphiron for 1920 Frost. (1079 Resisted)

Not hit capped - so it included a miss - there were quite a few FULL resists, and all were at least partially resisted.

Please downrank it into oblivion.

Kommentar von 158969

http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php
just see it... it tells everything u need to know about this fight
(dont take this serri)

Kommentar von Jacuzi

Lol, nuclear launch detected? Yes

Kommentar von Lassy

Frost mages and frost Dks dead set on not changing their spec benefit very much from spell penetration.

This otherwise useless stat works wonders on risistant (not immune) bosses like this one.

Kommentar von deolrin

Just for some lore:

Sapphiron was an Azure Dragon that Arthas and Anu'Barak slain, and coverted him into a Frost Wyrm. It happened in Warcraft III-The Frozen Throne, in one of the first Undead stages in the Campaign.

Kommentar von Serai

by far the most annoying thing on this fight is the frost aura that deals 12k dps to a 10man raid at all times

since sapphirons enrage timer is very easy your racing against your healers mana bar, with potions now only useable once per fight your going to run out sometime

for dpsers the main priority is to avoid the blizzards as suddenly taking high dmg drains a healers mana far faster than a predictable stream of dmg

Kommentar von 275496

I don't se what everyones problem for this boss is... our guild casually raids 10 man Naxx every week as we are actually a PvP guild, however first time we raided Naxx we reached Saph, wiped twice and then downed him on the 3rd try, our average gear level was heroic rares and epics/crafted epics, i really dont see how people are struggling, if you healers are going oom, either your dps is seriously lacking and thye arent getting him down anywhere near in time or your healers have SERIOUS problems with their mana pool / mp5, our general setup is resto druid, holy priest and 1 random healer depending on who else is online and we have no problems at all, after the first time weve run Naxx about aother 4-5 times and we've one shotted him every time no problems.

Kommentar von 145484

Kommentar von 195360

Sick of wiping to this boss from lack of heals, we decided to bring in some artillery: After the 16th wipe, everyone zoned out, took 1 hour to farm mats and check the AH, got their gear crafted, and zoned back in.

In this hour, we found that our Feral Druid had respecced resto and our Pally OT had brought along his healing gear.

over 300 frost resist on whole raid, 4 healers and the OT in his healing gear. Only 1 tank and 4 dps. The fight was a joke, but took over 10 minutes.

Main parts of the fight:
-Learn to dodge the deep breath. You will not survive it. Either you learn to stand behind the iceblocks, or you will die.
-Yes, Frost Resist is not NEEDED, but it HELPS, a LOT. Plus, as the MT, it will come in useful to tank Kel'Thuzad in the next fight (Frost Resist on the main tank helps a ton)
-Take it easy. This is NOT a dps race, it's a survival fight. Help your healers and win.

Kommentar von 288022

Ok some musings about the hardest heal fight in the instance.

1. Pally healers are just shafted here. If we have a pally healer at this boss we tend to just have them assigned to MT heal and off heal when someone is real low(On a side note I'd love to be able to 2 heal this with a paladin but I have not as yet found a paladin geared/skilled enough to achieve this, im a resto shaman and go oom if I have to heal more than 6 people really)

2. Priests/Shamans/Druids is what its all about here. Priests and Druids can keep a 5 man group alive here, whilst a shaman can easily keep 3 but with a little effort keep a 5 man group up.

3. In the ground phase. Have the ranged groups split into two groups, left and right, all the melee are obviously all in the centre. Have 1 decurser for each of these groups(its much much better if the decurser is NOT a healer) assign 1 healer left 1 healer right, this splits up the blizzards as two are cast at once and if you are on one side all together there is a chance they can converge and wipe you

4. In the air phase, have the whole raid run towards the entrance to the encounter this means you are away from the blizzards, that all the people dont have far to run for ice bolts it also means you are in range of all the aoe healers(nb if someone goes into an ice block at low hp it is essential for a healer to use a cooldown to save them the instant they come out). At this point any druid of any spec in your raid should use tranquility as it is an imba spell at the minute :)

The main things that cause a wipe here are :

- Healer oom - This will come if you have poor dps or poor gear, only solution is to either swap people out or get more healers through respecs. Can also happen if people are being stupid and standing in blizzards

- The boss healing up - This will only occur if people are not decursing. Explain to them this is priority 1 over another frostfirebolt/starfire etc

- Unlucky Ice Bolts - You do need to keep your raid over about 50% hp at all times to avoid this, again this can be hard depending on healer spellpower but again more healers will resolve this problem.

I hope this helps :)

Nb. The achievement 100 club is actually a really easy one as the frost resist set just doesnt seem to mitigate more than it gimps the healer mana and dps's dps.

Kommentar von Wrethched

For Sappihiron on Normal (10 Man) difficulty there is not much FrR needed to make the fight comfortable.
Our guild usually only requires us to wear the chest piece of the FrR set which gives 115 FrR.

If we take a look at the FrR we can get from sets:
Chest + Aura/Totem = 245 FrR, Good
Belt & Boots + Aura/Totem= 302 FrR, Very Good
Whole Set + Aura/Totem = 417 FrR, Excellent

In my opinion "Good" is more than enough because otherwise you'll be turning in a lot of good stats as Mp/5 for an overload of Stamina and FrR, and as other people have stated you can easiliy do it without any FrR at all it's just that a little of it makes this fight so much easier.

Kommentar von TMWNN

Twice Frost Breath wiped my pickup raid during the first air phase despite our hiding behind iceblocked people. Our mistake was running too close to the entrance; the little bits of "snow" on the ground raised us enough to be hit. Once we made sure to not be on the snowy ground we were fine. It's still good strategy to gather in one place to make sure we can reach an ice block quickly, of course, and the doorway is as good a place as any; just not too close.

Kommentar von 42591

If you are not a HOLY priest do not read

healing this boss was pretty intense.

the spell that you should use the most is prayer of mending.

spamming renew and circle of healing is very bad. you would go out of mana even before he takes flight. try your best not to use these unless it is mandatory.

let prayer of mending carry you in the ground phase.

when he flies out, use prayer of healing / CoH to top everyone off before he fires his frost bolt to freeze people.

rinse and repeat

Kommentar von 42591

the only way to win against sapphiron is to have a mage / druid dispel the curse as soon as possible.

otherwise you'll be stuck at 80% after 3 flying phases

Kommentar von 303182

Mages, note that Frost Ward is your friend. Any help you can give your healers by resisting damage for x amount of seconds is a huge help. I have found it works well when you're positioned behind the ice blocks, makes it a bit easier to get through that mess. I also use it when a blizzard is first dropped on me, if I can't get out of it fast enough.

Herbalists note that lifeblood, while not much of a HoT, can help as well. This fight is about survivability, not a DPS race.

Kommentar von Crowax

finally downed him yesterday.

tanks: warr, druid <he was dpsing in cat on this fight>
healers: me <disc priest, specced for this fight only - actually i might stay in it>, holy pally, resto shaman
5 dps: 2x rogue, shadowpriest <who died by not hiding behind blocks on 1st sapphiron's flight...no replenishment/hp from IVE>, hunter, dk

easy fight. pally would decurse, also had FR aura. We've made our dps to wear some FR equip if they had it, but none on healers and tank. Also my SR prayer helped on missed decurses ;-)

i really dunno how we could be wiping on him a day before soo many times. possibly, being a bit spread when he shoots icebolts is the biggest deal. and ofc hiding behind blocks they leave. didn't even use shadowfiend and i ended at ~20%, although u have to count in improved wisdom, mp5 flask and mana totems. had over 500 mp5 while casting

Kommentar von 240502

https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/spell=53937

Kommentar von Stigmata

No, he's correct.

1.2k per person.
10 people.

12k to raid.

Kommentar von Akumas

Based off personal experience, your healers will make or break this fight for you, depending on their skill level and ability to manage their mana pool due to the fight's long duration.

Things I've seen that make this fight more difficult:
(1) Having only one healer who can apply HoTs
(2) Having people not remove Sapphiron's curse fast enough, or maybe not at all
(3) Having unfortunate blizzard spamming on your melee over and over

Things I've seen that make this fight much easier:
(1) Having two or more healers that can apply HoTs
(2) Getting fortunate with blizzard placement
(3) Having a shadow priest's VE and VT

In terms of frost resist gear, I would recommend wearing one or two pieces if you're a new group or your healers can't quite get the job done. However, I also want to stress that it's not necessary to wear any frost resist gear if you have skilled healers or multilpe healers that can HoT and AoE heal effectively.

Kommentar von d3nyd

If you are a Death Knight, you can survive Sapph's Frost Breath.

Icebound Fortitude + Anti-Magic Shell + Bone Shield will easily absorb MOST of the damage of this if you happen to get caught in its blast and you're not behind an Ice Bolted raid member. I found myself in that unfortunate situation, and popped all three of those abilities. I took only 5001 damage, with nearly 75,000 absorbed and 20,000 resisted. Unfortunately my HP was already below 5001, so I died anyway.

Also, if you aren't trying to push your luck and impress your raid and just kill the boss, you can trivialize the amount of damage you take from Frost Aura. Use IBF and AMS whenever the CDs are up and you're basically guaranteed to take the least amount of damage in the entire raid.

Kommentar von 155412

Not sure why my comment was deleted... but here it goes again.

Sometimes Sapph's aura ticks faster, which causes huge head aches and frustration because the fight seems so easy when it doesn't tick fast.

Fast example from my guild:
Successful wws log kill of Sapph - 1 tank, 7 dps, 2 healers. The two healers combined put out roughly 2 million healing over just under 6 minutes, or about 5,700 heals per second.

Mass wipage best attempt on Sapph - 1 tank, 6 dps, 3 healers. The three healers combined put out almost 4 million healing in 7 minutes, or about 9,500 heals per second (damn fine job, imo).

I know what you're thinking, wait, the tooltip says it ticks 1200 per second, so shouldn't your raid have to put out 12,000 heals per second?

Take a look at this log - 2 million damage in about 6 minutes http://wowwebstats.com/vt4tquxsatmpq?s=204317-218347

compared to this log - 3.3 million damage in 7 minutes http://wowwebstats.com/r5dpp5dbrbrcg?s=34043-56015

(maybe it was wearing FrR gear, but i know in my guild's attempts, we never wear any FrR gear, so I'm positive this problem/bug does occur)

Conclusion? sometimes you're taking a ton more damage. Good luck if that's the case.

Kommentar von 311052

Just one thing about that Frost Breath, I am Speaking from experience that if you're a death knight with the Anti-Magic Shell improve specc You are able to earn 100+ runic power from the frost breath without taking the damage:)

Kommentar von Ferlathin

since the frost cap is at 415 = 75%

Actually, you're wrong there. Frost cap is not at 415. Please visit: Elitist Jerks for more information regarding this.

Kommentar von 138638

tip: if a mage casts iceblock and tells the whole raid to go behind him/her do NOT listen to the mage i learned that the hard way mage iceblocks are not the same thing!
(this is a joke just think about it a mage telling 80% of grp to go behind THEIR iceblock just think about it )

Kommentar von zarathorn

He is not immune, but as of the latest patch he is highly resistant. I wouldn't suggest being a frost mage/frost DK on this fight, your frost damage will be basically cut in half.

Kommentar von 216888

Anyone else notice how Sapphiron is one of the few (or only) blue dragons (or formerly...) who's name doesn't end in -gos or -gosa?
ie. Malygos, Sindragosa

Kommentar von 273450

did his aura got a nerf in 3.0.8, just one-shoted him with no FRR gear, and we wiped alot pre 3.0.8 even WITH the gear.

but its a very fun fight for a healer.

Kommentar von 237816

This fight really plays well into a bear tank's specialties. While other tanks can have problems hitting 540 def in a lot of Fr gear, but druids maintain uncrittability from just talents. on top of the the Fr gear has huge amounts of stamina, which scales incredibly well with druids due to bear form and all the stamina increasing talents.

I've found that i can tank in 4 pieces of frost resist (chest, belt, boots, ring) gemmed pure stamina gems and still dont have to worry about DPS hitting the threat ceiling. With this amount of frost resist, improved leader of the pack, and proper use of cooldowns such as barkskin, frenzied regen, etc. The healers could mostly neglect me and worry about the DPS. a resto druid rolling 3xLB and a rejuv was enough to keep me alive between air phases, meaning he could largely ignore more for the nine seconds between refreshing his hots, allowing him to focus more on tossing spot regrowths, Lifeblooms and wildgrowths.

The other big help we had was we agreed everyone must get behind the same iceblock. This way the priest and druid could spam wild growth and circle of healing to get everyone topped off in preperation for the ground phase.

those two little pieces were key in us downing sapph our first time, as well as making sure your dps understands the blizzard mechanics and moves quickly. Obviously once you get used to the mechanics and your gear catches up to the encounter, the tank can start subbing out some of his Fr gear and stuff like that.

Kommentar von 309638

Frost resistance gear IS essential to taking him down untill you have a group thats exceptionally well geared, smart enough to stay out of blizzards, and skilled healers.

Tanks should NOT wear frost resist, as heals will be focusing on them anyway, and most likely adding a piece or 2 of frost resist will drop them below the def cap, which is bad.

Everyone except the MT should have at least 2 pieces of frost resist gear, this fight is not a dps race, it is an endurance fight, there is no intelligent reason not to wear frost resist unless your going for the 300 club achievement.

There is a more in-depth guide here that helps a lot with the strategy of this fight.

Kommentar von 328643

Looks like Mage/Druid Curse Removal are good for dealing with Sapph's Life Drain - is there confirmation available as to whether Cloak Of Shadows/Ice Block, etc. will work?

Kommentar von 328981

Hi

Yesterday we were doing 10 man nax. And we were at saphiron. I was off tank. And somehow main tank dies. Then the boss took a dps (ı was on battle stance). Quickly switch to defensive stance and hit taunt. Guess what happens: did not work. Then ı wait for 8 secs (cooldown) hit again did work also. wait another 8 secs push taunt again did not happen. After 5-6 taunts we got wipe. cause boss never attacked me. I did not use challenging shout because it did not come to my mind. Anyhow what is for taunt?

Some saying he is immune to taunt. Is it true?

Kommentar von 242716

No, he's wrong :D its 1200 damage every 2 seconds = 600 DPS * 10 players = 6000.

Anyway it's still anoying...

Kommentar von 220005

He's immune to taunt. But before he wasn't.

Kommentar von 146819

Sapphiron.
Has.
The.
Best.
Entrance.
EVER.

Kommentar von Primax

What precisely is that bone at the front of Sapphiron?

You know. The waggly dragon p e n i s thing.

Kommentar von 189117

You can actually stand on the grate on the wall and you will not get hit by deep breath, even tho I would not recommend as using this as a strategy to simplify the fight I would recommend this for "Oh #$%^" moments when you cant make the ice block.

Kommentar von moriarti

There is no need to have either mages nor DKs sit this fight out. Well, especially not the frost DKs. The only blue gem ability that benefits DKs' dps is spell penetration. Since you need 2 blue gems for the meta, you might as well have 20 spell penetration (10 from each of two dual color gems). And since DKs benefit so little from agility, and so much from spell pen (if they are frost), your best back enchant is +35 spell pen. That's full 55 spell pen right there. Spell pen directly effects resistance: 1 point of pen=resistance reduced by 1 point. As for the gems in your frost resist gear, just put 3 blue 20 spell pen gems. You have 115 spell pen at that point. You just might find yourself at the top of the dps chart for that fight for the full "wtf" effect.

Kommentar von 309760

Does anyone know if there's a glitch where Sapphiron will Ice Block a mages Water Elemental? My raid thinks that my pet basically caused a wipe, since he's immune to frost attacks and he wouldn't be frozen.

Kommentar von hackandmore

Berserk wont kill you...have the best healer(not by amount he heals but how much frost resist he has) focus on tank only...Shamans are perfect for this due to the Chain Heal

you get more dmg per tick but that doesnt mean "wipe all raid" as stated

If you have high enough frost resist ure saved...
How we got our frost resist:

Frost Resistance Aura 130
Frost Resistance Totem 130
Gift of the Wild 54
Mighty Frost Protection Potion absorbs an average of 5k frost dmg

We were lucky enough to have fewer dps and healers covered us
when he went berserk we were down to 300-400k...no hunters for
Tranquilizing shot

Our mage had alchemy and tons of pots.He claimed he never took frost dmg with Frost Ward and the pots(actually he did 20k total :D)

A pala had to pop Divine Shield at the enrage thats all...

Btw i had Titanium Frostguard Ring with a Solid Dragon's Eye and Enchant Ring - Stamina and a head frost resist enchant that got me to excellent frost resist status...
took like 150-200 dmg per tick and most of it was absorbed by pot

Kommentar von Amethystine69

As far as 'benching Frost Mages', they have a spell specifically for this situation. If a Frost mage is taken into this fight, they can Frostfire Bolt and focus on decursing, rather than their usual full DPS rotation.

Kommentar von Pirwzy

The huge ice formations next to the teleporter you enter the room from do NOT break LoS for the Frost Breath.

Kommentar von 318930

I wonder if the name has any relation to sapphira from the book eragon :3

Kommentar von 150562

Has anyone run into an issue where Sapphiron doesn't ice block anyone, but still does Frost Breath? Happened to us last run. He attempted to ice block me, but it killed me somehow and no one else was ice blocked, so there was no place for us to run.

Kommentar von Atzemis

As of 3.1, it appears that running to the edges of the room will no longer protect you from his deep breath. I learned this the hard way unfortunately...

Kommentar von 359044

The bone reconstruction may be a reference/copy of the museum boss in medievil2 (ps1 classic)

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Kommentar von Allakhazam

Death and taxes have indeed killed Sapphiron world first.

http://66.250.45.101/~dtguild/

Kommentar von Jossex

Please consider updating this page to a Classic-friendly version. Sapphiron does not drop any items that unlocks zones, and Commander Eligor Dawnbringer is not in Classic.
"Sapphiron is a gigantic undead frost wyrm who guards the entrance to Kel'Thuzad's inner sanctum in Naxxramas.
Sapphiron drops (Item #44569), and (Item #44577), which unlock 10 Player and 25 Player difficulty for (Zone #4500) respectively.

(NPC #27784) says about him:"

Kommentar von Rothia

DON'T NERF SAPPHIRON
Posted by Pazorax | WoW Developer | Blizzard Forums | 2020-11-11

Hey everybody!

We recently completed testing Naxxramas on the PTR. A big thank you goes out to everyone who helped us find bugs or exploits we could fix before release. We often get questions about how we decide what counts as a bug, and what’s worth changing, so I thought you might enjoy a deep dive into our investigation of Saphiron’s Frostaura.

TLDR for anyone who only wants to know the conclusion: We’re changing the spell to tick every 2 seconds consistently.

When Saphiron is engaged, the entire raid is affected by a Frostaura which reads: “Deals Frost Damage every second”, but many players reported that it should be every 2 seconds. Our first thought was, “that was the Wrath of Der Lichkönig version,” but we know that in a game as complicated as WoW, there can be surprising and unexpected interactions, and a lot has changed over the last 15 years. When a current behavior doesn’t match players’ or developers’ memories, it always makes us a little suspicious. Sometimes it turns out our memories are wrong, but we’ve also seen it lead to the uncovering of an unexpected interaction, so, it’s usually worth a look, and that was certainly the case here.

We looked at many old videos, and though some were from the wrong expansion, we were able to find videos that showed the original fight. The videos actually had evidence of both tick rates within the same fight. The Frostaura seemed to mostly tick every 2 seconds, but occasionally tick once per second for a bit, before returning to ticking every 2 seconds. We also checked in our reference server, and the behavior was the same as we saw in the videos: mostly 2 second ticks, but occasionally a brief streak of 1 second ticks, before returning to 2 second ticks.

Perhaps the most useful clue was this post from WoW game designer Daelo in 2009, in which he describes fixing Saphiron’s Frostaura so that it does “the damage that was seen previous to the 3.0.8 patch”:

"We just hotfixed Saphiron's Frostaura so it should do the damage that was seen previous to the 3.0.8 patch regardless of the size of the raid or your server's performance. This should be 1200 every 2 seconds in Normal, and 1600 every 2 seconds in Heroic. You'll notice that the Frostaura debuff you have no longer has a duration that refreshes. The tooltip also incorrectly lists the damage as occurring every second. The tooltip error will be fixed the next time we make a client patch available."

This certainly suggests that it was doing damage every 2 seconds prior to the 3.0.8 patch, but this was a hotfix to the Wrath of Der Lichkönig version of Naxxramas. We’ve already found other differences between the original and Wrath of Der Lichkönig versions of Naxxramas, so while this post was helpful, it wasn’t enough to satisfy us on its own. It contained an important clue about the debuff duration refreshing, which led us to suspect the DoT refresh might be clipping the damage tick. In WoW Classic, when you refresh a DoT, it resets the timer on the periodic damage, and can cause you to miss ticks, and since the Frostaura has a 5 second duration that gets reset throughout the fight. It was a good bet that the damage timer was getting reset then too. Of course, we already reproduced that behavior in WoW Classic, so that still didn’t explain the discrepancy between the two.

At that point, we dug further into the game code and found the difference in the way Saphiron re-applies the Aura. In both reference and WoW Classic, the aura re-application was done as part of an Action Trigger which fires every 2 seconds. However, in the original code, action triggers share a timer with periodic spell ticks, and action triggers were always processed first. In modern code, they run on independent timers, so a long-running action script won’t delay a spell tick.

This meant that when Saphiron re-applied the Frostaura in reference, it was guaranteed to clip the damage tick that was about to happen, leading to every other tick getting skipped. In modern code, the damage tick and the reapplication are both scheduled to occur at the same time, but are controlled by two separate timers, so either one might happen first. It just so happens that in this encounter, the reapplication generally happens after the DoT tick on the same second, so that players got the full damage on every tick, instead of every other tick.

But this mystery isn’t solved yet. What about those occasional one second ticks we saw in the original videos and in the reference server. They were rare, but if the reference code is guaranteed to do the refresh before the damage tick, how were they ever ticking at once a second? It turns out that the Frostaura application didn’t always succeed, and if it failed, the existing DoT happily ticked away doing damage once per second until the next refresh attempt 2 seconds later, like this:

Time (seconds)	Event	Damage
0	Aura #1 Applied	0
1	Aura #1 ticks	600
2	Aura #2 Applied (clips Aura #1)	0
3	Aura #2 ticks	600
4	Aura #3 fails (Aura #2 ticks)	600
5	Aura #2 ticks	600
6	Aura #4 Applied (clips Aura #2)	0
7	Aura #4 ticks	600

Since Saphiron is 3 levels higher than the player, the spell can only miss 1% of the time, but that’s what explained the occasionally 1 second ticks we saw in the videos, and with our reference.

We also reached out to the original designer, who still works at Blizzard, on a different game team. After we described our findings, he agreed that the intended behavior was for the damage to be every second, and the fact that the reapplication of the aura was clipping a tick of the DoT was a bug that wasn’t noticed or fixed until Wrath of Der Lichkönig.

So where do we go from here? We often must carefully consider a conflict between original intent and original behavior. There’s no one right answer in all cases, but for this case, the original behavior is the correct decision, and we plan to fix this in much the same way Daelo did in Wrath of Der Lichkönig. In modern code, we have a way to reliably apply an aura that deals damage every 2 seconds as long as the boss is alive, and we’ll re-write this ability to use that method, just as Daelo did in Wrath of Der Lichkönig.

While the behavior that led to it originally occurring every 2 seconds instead of every 1 second was a bug, it was consistent enough as to be indistinguishable from a text bug in the Aura description. Choosing to go with the original intent would result in almost twice as much damage as players experienced in 2006, so in the end that makes this decision pretty clear.

I hope you enjoyed that trip through our development process. See you in Azeroth!

DON'T NERF SAPPHIRON
Posted by Pazorax | WoW Developer | Blizzard Forums | 2020-11-12

Hey everybody,

I wanted to drop in and give one more update. Astute readers of my earlier post may have noticed that the original implementation had a 1% to do an extra tick of damage, and while that’s pretty minor on average, taking an extra tick of 600 damage can create a dangerous streak that can make the fight significantly harder, especially if you don’t have much Frostwiderstand.

I’m really happy to share with you that after I made my post, our newest team member added an effect that exactly reproduces the 1% chance to have an extra tick of frost damage, so you’ll have something even more true to the original difficulty.

Watch out for those damage streaks! It’s cold in there!

Blizzard: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/dont-nerf-sapphiron/709636/48
Wowhead: https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/news=319065/wow-classic-deep-dive-into-sapphirons-frost-aura-frost-damage-dealt-every-2-seco

Kommentar von Rothia

TRACKING THE FIRST WOW CLASSIC NAXXRAMAS KILLS
Posted by Kaivax | Community Manager | Blizzard Forums | 2020-12-04

We’ve really enjoyed following along as the first guilds in the world completed each wing of Naxxramas, and then the final bosses.
Here’s what we’ve seen so far:

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Guild	Realm	Region	Time

The Plague Wing: Loatheb
1.	Rise	Netherwind	Americas	(2:13:39 PM PST)
2.	Bunnings Warehouse	Arugal	Oceania	(2:14:13 PM PST)
3.	gusy	Golemagg	EU	(2:14:14 PM PST)
4.	Risen	Whitemane	Americas	(2:15:01 PM PST)
5.	Quasar	Noggenfogger	EU	(2:16:36 PM PST)


The Spider Wing: Maexxna
1.	Innuendo	Razorgore	EU	(2:20:53 PM PST)
2.	APES	Gehennas	EU	(2:21:34 PM PST)
3.	Storm	Herod	Americas	(2:22:20 PM PST)
4.	JP	Firemaw	EU	(2:23:23 PM PST)
5.	举杯邀月	Dagger Hills	China	(2:24:29 PM PST)


The Abomination Wing: Thaddius
1.	Progress	Firemaw	EU	(2:21:32 PM PST)
2.	Onslaught	Skeram	Americas	(2:21:49 PM PST)
3.	Fully Rested	Pagle	Americas	(2:23:53 PM PST)
4.	Noobs	Huhuran	China	(2:24:38 PM PST)
4.	Эксодус	Chromie	Russia	(2:24:38 PM PST)


The Deathknight Wing: The Four Horsemen
1.	Rampage	Fairbanks	Americas	(2:42:37 PM PST)
2.	Progress	Firemaw	EU	(2:43:39 PM PST)
3.	《韶光》	Ouro	China	(3:02:39 PM PST)
4.	Rise	Netherwind	Americas	(3:02:51 PM PST)
5.	oWN	Arugal	Oceania	(3:11:06 PM PST)


Frostwyrm Lair: Saphiron
1.	Progress	Firemaw	EU	(3:16:34 PM PST)
2.	Tribe	Sulfuron	EU	(3:42:00 PM PST)
3.	Onslaught	Skeram	Americas	(3:45:20 PM PST)


Frostwyrm Lair: Kel'Thuzad
1.	Progress	Firemaw	EU	(3:26:49 PM PST)
2.	Tribe	Sulfuron	EU	(3:53:34 PM PST)
3.	Onslaught	Skeram	Americas	(3:55:41 PM PST)

Well done!

BLIZZARD POST: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/tracking-the-first-wow-classic-naxxramas-kills/754613

Kommentar von krikcrack

not shown here is an item that drops from this boss called fists of the unrelenting that dropped only after TBC prepatch went live

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Saphiron

NaxxramasDas ArachnidenviertelAnub'RekhanGroßwitwe FaerlinaMaexxnaDas SeuchenviertelNoth der SeuchenfürstHeigan der UnreineLoathebDas MilitärviertelInstrukteur RazuviousGothik der ErnterDie vier ReiterDas KonstruktviertelFlickwerkGrobbulusGluthThaddiusFrostwyrm HortSaphironKel'ThuzadSaphironKel'ThuzadFrostwrym HortKommandant Eligor Morgenbringer

Einst ein nobler blauer Drache inmitten der Berge Nordends, wurde Saphiron durch Arthas während seiner Kampagne im gefrorenen Norden erschlagen. Wiedererweckt, um ihm zu dienen, bewacht Saphiron auf ewig Kel'Thuzads Hort, diejenigen erwartend, welche es wagen würden, Hausfriedensbruch zu begehen.

ÜbersichtSchrecken der Nacht25 Spieler: 3Fähigkeiten

Phase 1: Boden

Frostaura - Die Aura verursacht alle 2 Sekunden 1,200 (25 Spieler: 1,600) Frostschaden am gesamten Schlachtzug.

Spalten - Saphiron wird mit dieser Attacke bis zu 10 Spielern vor ihm treffen und normalen Nahkampfschaden und zusätzliche 50 Schaden verursachen.

Schwanzfeger - Mit dieser Attacke trifft Saphiron Spieler hinter ihm für 1,500 bis 2,500 (25 Spieler: 2,188 bis 2,812) physischen Schaden treffen und sie zurückstoßen.

Lebensentzug - Saphiron zaubert diesen Schwächungszauber alle 24 Sekunden auf 2 (25 Spieler: 5) zufällige Spieler, der 12 Sekunden lange alle 3 Sekunden ihnen 2,188 bis 2,812 (25 Spieler: 4,500 bis 5,500) Gesundheitspunkte durch Schattenschaden entzieht und Saphiron für 4,376 bis 5,624 (25 Spieler: 9,000 bis 11,000) heilt.

Blizzard beschwören - Beschwören Unterkühlen, was eine größere Version eines Magiers ist. Die Kühlung schwenkt sich im gesamten Raum um und verursacht die Bewegungsgeschwindigkeit von betroffenen Spielern um 50% und verursacht alle 2 Sekunden 3,500 bis 4,500 (25 Spieler: 5,550 bis 6,450) Frostschaden.

Frostwiderstand - Saphiron hat einen sehr hohen Frostwiderstandswert, der den Schaden durch Frostzauber um einen großen Anteil verringert.

Phase wechseln: Luft - Solange Saphirons Gesundheit überhalb von 10% ist, fliegt er alle 45 Sekunden in die Luft und tritt in die Luftphase ein.

Berserker - Nach 15 Minuten Kämpfens wird Saphiron zum Berserker, was seine Angriffsgeschwindigkeit um 150% und seinen Schaden um 500% erhöht und dadurch fast den Schlachtzug niedermacht.

Phase 2: Luft

Eisblitz - Während Saphiron in der Luft ist, wird er 2 (25 Spieler: 3) Spieler mit einem Eisblitz treffen, der sie einfrieren lässt und nähere Spieler 2,625 bis 3,375 (25 Spieler: 6,300 bis 7,700) Frostschaden nehmen lässt. In Eis gefrorene Spieler nehmen keinen Schaden von Frostatem und decken Freunde gegen den Schaden ab.

Frostatem - Kurz nachdem Saphiron den zweiten Eisblitz gezaubert hat, wird er zu verstehen geben, dass "Saphiron atmet tief ein". 7 Sekunden nach wird eine Eisbombe die Mitte des Raumes treffen und jeden, der nicht in Deckung ist, für 112,500 bis 187,500 Frostschaden erleiden lassen.

Phase wechseln: Boden - Nach einem Frostatem wird Saphiron auf dem Boden landen und in die Bodenphase eintreten.

BeuteSchlüssel der fokussierenden Iris25 Spieler: Heroischer Schlüssel der fokussierenden IrisDas Auge der Ewigkeit

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