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评论来自
Enno
"Sword Specialization: This ability now grants extra yellow attacks instead of extra white attacks. This change will make Sword Specialization no longer reset the weapon swing timer when it triggers off special attacks, and results in a net increase in damage dealt."
From patchnotes of PTR Patch 2.1.0
评论来自
59681
When it procs on your offhand, your main hand does an extra attack. Thus, if you're Sword spec, but for example have a mace in your main hand (as I do now on my 39 rogue, since the mace is the best SS weapon available), the mace will do an extra attack each time your off hand procs this. Basically, this just means the talent is even better than it looks.
评论来自
112377
I have a question... If I were to spec into both sword and mace specialization (Mace MH Sword OH), would I still get the benefits of both specializations? Please Reply : Very curious!
评论来自
107632
To answer all of the questions, yes, if you have a Mace/Fist in your main-hand with a Sword in your off-hand, and points in Sword Specialization, then the sword has a chance to proc the Sword Spec. and cause your main-hand Mace or Fist to get an extra attack.
Sword & Sword is used for Sword Spec. because
both
weapons have the chance to activate the Sword Spec., causing the Main Hand to strike again. The off-hand, while able to actually proc the Sword Spec., does not get the bonus attack, instead "giving" the bonus attack to the main hand. This works to our advantage because the main-hand strikes much harder than the off-hand.
Fist-Sword, although I've never tried it, is in some rings considered equivalent DPS wise because of the bonus attacks from your offhand combined with the +5% crit chance from your main-hand.
If you had a very high crit chance, I could see Mace-Sword being viable as well, possibly. I've never tested it, but +5% damage on critical strikes combined with extra main-hand attacks from your sword off-hand seems like it could be a good combo.
Dagger-Sword...? No. Just... no. While you would get the bonus +5% crit, the white damage on daggers is pitiful in comparison to maces, swords, and fist weapons, and even if the extra-attack is considered a special attack, the damage would be the same.
评论来自
fatt
One thing. Can the "extra attack" proc attack proc ur weapons enchant such as fiery mongoose etc... I know auto attacks and skill attacks like sinister strike proc chants but what about the sword proc attacks? Can a sword proc proc a chant? lol Akward question eh?
评论来自
1909
You'll know when this ability procs by seeing two crossed crescents appear briefly in front of your character.
评论来自
1771
Let me try to sum things up...
Facts:
Close Quarters combat (5% crit chance) against Sword mastery (5% to get an extra MH attack):
getting a crit means (afaik) double damage, on the other hand getting another attack is pretty much the same, just "new numbers".
for example : 200 dmg critted will be 400, but the sword proc can lead to a first atk of 200 and a second of 205 or 197 or maybe 202 and so forth.
Bad side of Sword mastery -
Procced atk can be missed, dodged/parried/blocked.
Good side of sword mastery: (to be exact...its the BAD side of CQC... =) ) -
RESILIENCE, it affects crit chance and damge, significantly decreasing its effect.
My advice - PVE critical (CQC), and for PVP bonus attack (Sword mastery).
评论来自
40449
I'm more consirned that the Warrior's Sword Spec gets a 6sec CD ... while the tooltip of the Rogue's Sword Spec doesn't say a thing about that ... so no cooldown? Or it has hidden cooldown of 6 sec?
评论来自
Yukazi
Ironfoe
Battleworn Thrashblade
Hand of Justice
Sword Specialization
Sounds like a scary combination for a 59 Warrior.
I could be horribly wrong though since I've never played a Warrior.
评论来自
dernn
As far as i know, if you have 5/5 sword spec (this is for rogue) and your offhand procs the sword spec (as stated above) this causes your main hand to instantly hit the target. However, sword spec is better than fist sword spec until you have high crit (not sure on the number) because if you proc sword spec (please correct me if im wrong, im not entirely sure on this) you have a 5% chance from that extra swing to get an extra swing, and from that another 5% chance, etc. which would do more damage than fist/sword until you have enough crit to make your abilities crit enough to outdo the extra double/triple/etc procs.
Again, im not sure on the double/triple/etc procs, stated somewhere above it does yellow damage which led me to think that maybe that doesnt count altho it would still be a swing so it might......
Edit, seems as tho multi procs do not happen as of patch 2.2?, lol i need to pay more attention to changes. BUT....after more thought getting a crit with SS using a fist compared to getting a normal SS and an extra swing could be better or worse, depending on your stats.
评论来自
174814
hey guys can some1 explane to me something about the sword spec.
So i have seen many rogues lately playing whit Fist in MH and Dugger in OH and they got Sword Specialization 4/5 and Dugger Specialization 5/5...so my question is.Is in this scenario does the Dugger makes Sword Specialization to procs?And if yes,why?Coz ive seen so many Rogues using it and i dont belive this to be some false Combat Spec.
But still if Sword Specialization says that only swords can proc.Why they use it?It is some bug or blizz miss place the words so ppl to think only swords can proc?
So if some1 is using this Combat spec plz explane why u put talent points in both Sword and Dugger Sprecialization and why u use Fist and Dugger weapons?
评论来自
174814
Maybe they were used swords before and haven't respecced, or maybe they put a few points in there in case they'd find a good sword they want to use.
well i dont argee here coz the rogues i apply to are whit this spec and they use:MH->Calamity's Grasp
OH->Webbed Death
and there are rly good weps meaby the best so dont tell me that they dont have money to change spec(that are 4 talent points) or that they w8 for better OH sword weapon.dont think a player whit such rating will waste talent points for nothing.
there are atleast 5 rogues whit this weapons and the same build.(im not posting names)
so for
Sword spec will NOT affect the "Duggers", only swords. That's why it's called Sword Specialization.
well i didnt ask how its called i ask if there is a bug that makes duggers to proc it.
rly sry but seems u dono what u are talking about(no offense).
So guys if some1 knows why plz answer to my question.
And just so you know, your post was very misspelled. Almost the whole thing was wrong.
well its totaly understandable.u are not better nether.Dont attack me or my post plz.
评论来自
356708
What about the pros and cons of Sword/dagger ?
评论来自
64626
As of 3.2 this talent will be called Hack and Slash and will apply to axes as well as swords.
This corresponds to the decision by devs to allow rogues to train the 1-handed axe proficiency.
评论来自
Sturmbringe
Got Forsaken Bonecarver the other day, so I decided to tweak my Combat Spec to get 5/5 Hack and Slash (ex Sword Spec.) Wielding a fist weapon as a mainhander, so I got 5/5 Fist Spec and 5/5 H&S. I tested this on tonight`s Ulduar 25 raid, and I must say I am not quite impressed.
According to recount (add-on), Hack and Slash procced 13 (thirteen) times during the XT Deconstructor 25 man fight, boosting my overall damage done by 1.3%. That is, recount recorded my H&S procs to account for 1.3% of my overall damage for that fight.
If you count the XT trash (both packs) in as well as the boss fight per se, H&S procced a total of twenty-seven (27) times, boosting my overall damage by 1.7%, always according to Recount.
307 Hit Rating /w 5/5 Precision and expertise-capped. Sporting a standard 15-51-5 Combat build, I have had to drop 2/2 Improved Slice and Dice to get 5/5 H&S, so I think I will be going 2/2 Imp Slice and Dice and 3/5 H&S instead, as 1.3% more overall damage on boss fights does not beat the convenience of 2/2 Imp S&D in my honest opinion, and the extra combo points generated thereof.
For the record, I have had a 100% DPS uptime on both boss and heart, as I was not on add duty, and didnt get any of the XT`s nasty debuffs. Cheers.
评论来自
268034
Could you acctualy go for an Axe-Dagger using sword specc or it would be just a BIG failure?
评论来自
25980
Do I get full benefit from my "Hack and Slash" by using a slow sword in my MH and a fast axe in my off-hand? So it really doesn't matter if I have 2 Swords, 2 Axes or 1 Axe and 1 Sword?
评论来自
15086
Does this really worth it compare to mace and fist?
Proc extra atk on main hand gives higher dmg but also no chance for
Combat Potency
, non getting 30% crit dmg bonus from
Lethality
, and no extra rage as warrior do, 5% more crit can sync much better with other talents imo (
Lethality
and
Glyph of Sinister Strike
etc).
Only good point that I can think of is chance on hit weapon or enchant.
Edit: Tell me your points instead of just rated down ^&*!@#$.
评论来自
303599
Question? Would the benefit of this talent stack with the heirloom pvp sword's effect of the same nature? Could one possibly proc off the other?
评论来自
WhaleMobile
boosting my overall damage done by 1.3%. That is, recount recorded my H&S procs to account for 1.3% of my overall damage for that fight.
I might sound like I'm being picky here, but that's only because the numbers are small in this particular scenario, had they been bigger, your error would have been bigger too.
If recount shows that Hack and Slash contributed 1.3% of your damage, then had it not been present you would have done 0.987 times your current damage; Hack and Slash was the reason you did 1.00 times your current damage. The relative damage increase due to Hack and Slash, therefore, is calculated as 1.00/0.987 = 1.01317 = a 1.317% increase in damage.
With Hack and Slash contributing 1.7% of your damage, it's increase would have been 1.00/0.983 = a 1.729% increase in damage.
Let's pretend hack and slash made up 65% of your damage on recount, then Hack and Slash would have been 1.00/0.45 = a 222% increase in damage (quite a lot bigger than the 65% as would previously have been assumed).
Of course there are other complications you have to consider, like putting the talent points elsewhere (such as increasing poison frequency of application/damage) that increase your damage by more, but that wasn't really the point of this reply.
评论来自
200795
Maybe not surprising, but a quite nice thing nonetheless some might've not thought of.
During a KS, you're quite likely to get atleast 1 H'n'S procc, since you're attacking with both weapons twice per second during the effect.
Unsure wether Killing Spree's +20% damage affects the extra swing, however.
评论来自
616919
hi!
im new to rogue can anyone tell me how it works when you use both sword and axe?
does the chance to proc increase?
is it good to go axe/sword for combat rogue?
thanks
评论来自
630461
Please con someone give their view... What's the better talent to get; This or
Close quarters combat
?
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劈斩
劈斩
需要等级 1
需要 单手武器
使你在用武器击中敌人后有5%的几率对同一目标进行一次额外的攻击。
(特效触发几率:5%,500毫秒 冷却)
魔法增益
法术细节
持续时间
n/a
类型
物理
机制
n/a
驱散类型
n/a
GCD目录
n/a
成本
无
范围
0码
(自身)
施法时间
瞬发
冷却
n/a
GCD
0秒
光环触发几率
5%
效果
Apply Aura:Proc Trigger Spell
价值:5
PVP 倍率:1
劈斩
标记
[Is Ability]
被动技能
隐藏光环
隐藏施法时间
[Instant Target Procs]
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