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First Boss of BWL
Fairly hard fight because everyone must do things correctly.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Razorgore_the_Untamed
for tactics and information on him.
Fal.
评论来自
Simman
DI strategy for Alliance was removed as of patch 1.12
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7049
Razorgore's location is a room filled with 30 large dragon eggs, much like the ones found in UBRS (Leroooooy!, that's right), just that these ones can be destroyed only with Razorgore's help, and in the following you'll see how.
The fight starts by aggroing the controllers on the west platform, killing them and triggering the spawn of adds (they appear in about 40 seconds after that). Kill Grethok and his adds and remember that and this
stage one it's all about managing the number of the adds and destroying the eggs, as quickly as possible, as there is a risk that the numbers of the mobs should raise to an incontrolable situation.
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7049
On the west end of the room there is an Orb, used to mind control Razorgore through stage 1 of the fight; the ideal situation consists of 2 controllers (paladins -bubble and control- for an alliance raid or anything else suitable, but keep in mind that the controllers must survive during this phase, as the use of Razorogore's abilities is crucial for the success of this stage) taking turns in mind controlling Razorgore.
The mind controlling process can begin even before the kill of Grethok and should be targeted on destroying the eggs (95% of the time), the only case in which you won't use this ability is when it is on cooldown. Then you might want to use the "sleep dragonkin" ability, as the fireball volley usually draws too much aggro on Razorgore, which, as you might guess, must stay alive during phase 1.
The adds that i've been mentioning so far are of 3 types: melee (legionnaires), dragonkin and mages. As you prolly expect, the melee ones (first 2 types) are hard hitting, heavy armoured etc. kind of mobs, while
the mages are more fragile but more dangerous too due to their AOE attacks. The easier way is to keep the adds population mainly consisting of melee and the dps group in your raid should nuke the mages asap; of
course, it's not a piece of cake to tank the melee damagers, but it's preferable to being batch killed by the mages. Healers, heal, tankers, tank and dps-ers, do the dps! It's that simple, isn't it? Now, balance is
everything. There's no need to keep the orcs alive with any cost, of course you must decimate them to keep a controllable population, but only if the mages are being taken care of, as killing them is the highest
priority for you. Tip: mind control the orcs and use them to kill the dragonkins, as they have 400% damage bonus against them. If the dragonkin number is too big, use the druids to sleep a part of them, anytime
required (and it is required most of the stage, in fact). Any other classes that can croud control should do so (sleep, sheep, fear, scream), in an organized fashion and if possible by taking turns, in order to keep a
even threat. During stage 1 also try to kite as much as possible, a horde raid could use the shamans' earth binding totems, everybody can use the hunters' traps etc.
By the end, the chaos is spreading and the numbers of the adds raises insanely, but do not panic, as all of them will go away when the last egg is destroyed. In order to make it to this final moment of stage
1,when there's only 3-4 eggs left, use all your CC abilities and chain fear everything, don't focus on killing, but escaping them.
Phase 2: time to kill Razorgore itself.
Razorgore has, beside his melee attack, a hurting fireball volley and a conflagrate attack that gets you out of your control, burning you and the people around you. This is the reason for dps-ing him mainly ranged
and using more than one tank. The MT is facing Razorgore, the backup tanks are behind him. When the unfortunate conflag event happens, the MT also loses aggro, so a backup tank should take his palce immediately, while the burning ex-MT steps back in order to protect the others of catching fire.
As you might have noticed, there's a lot of fire involved, so it's not a bad idea to bring along some fire resistance equipment, but bear in mind that you'll not leave the "in combat" state between the 2 stages of
the fight, so no gear switching is possible.
Try to take advantage of the large size of the room. In the unfortunate case a healer should die, have a druid rez him in-combat, but as far away as possible from the action. The ressurected healer will be out of
combat and will be able to bring back some of the other fallen comrades.
However, it's best not to come to this, as the unpredicted can interfere and mess the things up.
(Strategy from Ana's Lair)
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kreghx
Razorgore
Setup
We split the raid into 4 teams. Each team occupies one corner. Usually
team A is groups 1 and 2 who go west
team B is groups 3 and 4 who go north
team C is groups 5 and 6 who go east
team D is groups 7 and 8 who go south
Each team gets
1 Hunter
1-2 Warriors
2 Priests/Druids
1 Paladin
1 Warlock
1-2 Rogues
1-2 Mages
A spokesperson for each team on TS announces spawns in the corners.
PHASE I (EGGS)
DPS
A mage or rogue in each team is appointed Main Assist, Mages, Hunters and Rogues in the team will help kill his target. His target are all Orc Mages in the corner. They have to die ASAP until eventually only Legionaires and Dragonkin remain)
Warriors
The warrior(s) in each corner sunder (build aggro on) each dragonkin and legionaire in their corner and kite it between the two platforms (running up the stairs and jumping down in the middle front exploits the no-jump pathing of the mos and gets distance between warrior and his heat. Piercing Howl helps too. Eventually all 55 mobs will be following the warriors and if all goes fine, they wont even take damage.
Healers
The healers in each team keep their warriors always shielded and HoT'ed. Optimal position for them to be is the front corner of the platform on their side. From there they always have a LoS to all team members and especially the warriors roaming their corner currently (usually its 2 tanks you have to keep track of, yours and the one of the team accross the room who follows the same path as your warrior). Also if they get hit, they can easily get some distance by jumping down the edge and running. Priest should use the CTRA aggro-gain announcer to be able to cast fade before the mob hits them.
Paladins
Paladins are the orb controllers. They place themselves below the orb right from the start and destroy eggs as fast as possible. They should not take damage during the egg phase at all. Once all eggs are down, the primary orb user will have a lot of aggro from Razorgore and he will come straight after him. We use that to position razor immediately in a good spot and to bring him to the MT tag-team.
PHASE II
The MT tag team builds aggro on razorgore. Every now and them Razor casts a frontal AoE conflag that temporarily wipes all aggro on the current tank, swithing it to the offtank. Position of the 2 tanks is 90
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8558
BWL: Razorgore Strategy
:
1. The Pull
2. Kiting &Corner Control
3. Chaos & Razorgore
:
- Each Corner is assigned 2 well-balanced Groups:
- Corner A, Groups 1 & 2
- Corner B, Groups 3 & 4
- Corner C, Groups 5 & 6
- Corner D, Groups 7 & 8
- Odd Groups, High-Aggro Kiters & DPS (Outer Square)
- Even Groups, Low-Aggro Squishies (Inner Square)
1. :
- Entire Raid carefully stacks and buffs up at the Center of the Room.
- Raid pulls the Controller and Guards to the Center.
- OrbController goes in and takes control of Razorgore.
- Raid Focus Fires on Controller, then the 2x Guards.
- Immediately after 2nd Guard drops, Raid breaks to their assigned corners.
2. :
- While Razorgore is destroying the eggs, numerous spawns will appear:<BR>- Blackwing Mages: Kill On Sight.
- Blackwing Legionnaires: Kited by 2x Main Tanks.
- Blackwing Dragonkin: CC'ed by Hunters, Warlocks, and Druids.
- Spawns will continue at 1-2 per corner every 15 secs.
:
Blackwing Legionnaire Kiting:
- 2x MT Warriors, Spam Demoralizing Shout. Figure 8's.
Blackwing Mage DPS:
- Mages, NO AOE. Focus Fire. Crowd Control.
- Rogues, Assigned as MTs of Each Corner.
- Warriors (spares), Focus Fire.
Blackwing Dragonkin CC:
- Hunters, Hunter's Mark & Kite one Dragonkin using Scatter Shot.
-Warlocks, single target fear an unmarked (Hunter's Mark) Dragonkin.
- Druids, hibernate loose (unmarked & unfeared) Dragonkin.
Raid Support:
- Priests, shield & renew players. Fade defensively.
- Shaman, drop Totems. Heal. Kite loose Blackwing Legionnaires.
3. :
- When 4-5 Eggs remain, Orb Controller will use "Fireball Volley."
- Every mob within the instance (40) will immediately aggro Razorgore.
- Fear Rotation to prevent damage on Razorgore. Focus Heals on Razorgore.
- Stun, Frost Nova, Scatter, Frost Trap -- KEEP THEM OFF RAZORGORE!
- Spawns will disappear and Razorgore will heal himself to full.
- OrbController moves towards Corner A and Vanishes.
:
1. Melee Attack & Cleave.
2. Warstomp AOE, Knocks of all melee Aggro.
3. Conflagration frontal cone AOE, unremovable DoT with confusion.
4. Fireball Volley (every 20 secs), LoS 1k dmg fireball. Max range / hide!
:
- MT & OT must be engaged at all times, facing Razorgore to Corner A.
- MT = Front, OT = Back.
- When MT is conflag'ed, OT takes and faces Razorgore back towards corner.
- Similar to Onyxia Phase 1, allow Tanks to build sufficient aggro before DPS.
- While Tanks build aggro, Soulstone & Combat Rez players.
- CONTROLLED RANGED DPS, to kill Razorgore. Very similar to Onyxia
>>Just what my guild used
评论来自
Chandrialla
Sometimes it may also be necessary for healers to downrank their spells, in order to avoid the aggro that comes with constant healing. Mileage may vary. Anyone who isn't kiting should have some bandages handy.
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Chaosangel
This is a tough fight, especially for guilds coming right out of Molten Core/ Ruins of AQ (20- man). He has been known to cause many a guild to break up, mostly because people coming from MC are used to generic tank n' spank fights (Golemagg, Gehennas, Ragnaros, etc.) with very few twists or deviations in strategy. This fight is very involved, and everyone is forced to coordinate their actions whether they are kiting, mind- controlling, or even just zerging the mages that spawn.
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93865
Known issue in TBC, unsure if it has been fixed:
Even after all eggs have been destroyed and Razorgore himself has been killed, the adds will not stop despawning. They will continue to respawn and fill the room into phase three, making it impossible to end the encounter except by wiping. Even so, it is possible to do so, and loot Razorgore and proceed in the instance.
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smimwibbet
what level is this dude?god im getting tired of"haha im a level ?? level u suck and im a dragonn hah!"
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240859
I just got one question, can u kill him in phase one or what happens if u try that?
评论来自
Ant1dote
Ok, i just had a Sinister Strike crit of 10K on him. on level 80... how come? im not seeing anything about him getting more damage recieved?
评论来自
288645
Razorgore is impossible to solo as once you kill him in phase 1 you are instantly killed by an AoE.
Requires a minimum of 2 people
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MMOSimca
Tips for doing BWL with few very people:
Razorgore - Have the tank grab all the adds and tank in the middle of the room. Have the healer stand on top of the tank and pull healing aggro to get the mobs to the tank. Have a dps kill the blackwing mages ONLY (if you only have 3 people, ignore this role). You could probably 2-man this with a Blood DK tanking the mobs and one player on the orb.
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205601
I did 2man (warrior and dk) razorgore, Warrior tanked mobs and DK handle mindcontrol
评论来自
Suzaru
Did a 2 man (Heal Shaman, Fire Mage) today, too!
The Shaman kited the whole adds and i managed the mind control thing...
Razorgore was easy going, mage with decent gear can tank him :D
评论来自
258919
Allow me to give you a tip, if you're running with a small group of 80s.
DO NOT START UNTIL EVERY DPS IN THE GROUP KNOWS HOW TO CONTROL THE BOSS.
I was the controller and got most of the eggs down, but my toon was damaged so I lost the control and still had the debuff. I told our hunter to use the orb, and he did, but he didn't smash the remaining eggs and just stood there. So the mobs killed him and we all died.
Chances are, you will have to switch off control at least once. Make sure every dpser knows what to do.
Also, when your channeling bar is about to die, bring the boss as far away from the orb platform as you can so you won't get attacked by him. Especially if you're a clothie.
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295146
2-manned today. =]
Prot paladin and ret paladin.
Ret pally controls Razorgore.
Prot pally just kept laying down consecrates on the stairs for incoming aggro while picking everything else up with ranged and melee attacks, using every free moment to run over and grab everything off the boss and come right back.
Good luck.
评论来自
82529
if you kill him before all the dragon eggs are destroyed he will do a heavy explosion kiling everyone regardless of health, though it can be avoided using divine shield, ice block etc (haven't tried anti-magic shell)
评论来自
Rizz
2 manned by a frost dps DK, and a holy paladin. Needless to say pally was the one who tanked all adds while I (DK) was MC'ing the boss and destroying eggs.
评论来自
Funga
Hey, I was trying to 2 man it via 3.2 PTR and had a problem. I found that me (80 druid) and my friend (80 Pally) could do it fine up until Razorgore first broke free. He then, before I could hit the orb again, Would suicidally explode and kill us both. Anyone have any Idea whats going on?
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nyctric
First defeated by Ascent of Medivh on the 12th of July, 2005.
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darknesscalls
Still bugged for those wondering, despite claims that it has been fixed
评论来自
Corenna
To circumvent his AOE-wipe post 3.2, have someone else spam click the orb when it's about to drop, that will allow you to pick him up again before he kills everyone.
评论来自
svirve
Succesfully 2-manned last night by a blood DK (tank) and holy paladin (controller).
We got the bug were he would do his doomsday AoE after the first MC twice it would come with a message stating that the Instance was already in progress prompting to Portal to the Graveyard or Joining the instance.
Seems to be random if it happens though since our fourth try went without a care.
评论来自
LynMars
We tried this today and discovered part of the problem is that Razorgore must be in combat with someone when the MC breaks, or it'll trigger his AoE instakill. Trouble was, the adds weren't spawning fast enough.
What we did then was when the MC was about to break, a Death Knight threw a Death and Decay at Razorgore's feet so he'd trigger combat while Razorgore was uncontrolled, until MC could be established again. My Priest was also able to hit him with an instacast to trigger combat before he could AoE.
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15184
We had the same Kaboom bug, combined the two ideas above and it worked perfectly - a second person by the controller spamming the orb, aoe on Razorgore at control end, and we also tryed not killing every single npc as he spawned :P - Worked like a charm
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rzzr
Noticed another bug. After we killed him the adds still kept running into the room. The raid leader said it was because lots of us were not attuned to BWL and we had to leave the instance and get summoned back. I guess this is because, like us, you can be summoned straight into the instance by a lock and you couldn't back in the day. Just wondered if anyone else has seen this "bug"?
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438347
2 manned with a resto druid 80 and a combat rogue 59 xD, the rogue mind control the boss and the druid tank and heal himself keeping an eye on the rogue.
评论来自
479989
Easy boss to solo as 80 just be sure to even be very fast able to heal you self with crazy much hp, get out of stuns (Fireball Voley).. if you are feral druid then go up fight him alittle, then pull back, use Shadowmeld and make the adds fight him for al ittle when you then want then you can go back kill him..
Be aware, when he dies all the eggs will explode and kill you.. anyway i died
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552719
2 manned him as arms warrior and feral druid...pretty easy.
Warrior was on orb MCing and druid tanked everything. Druid was 5.2k+ gs and warrior was 4.8k
Druid got low at times but he managed to keep himself up.
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562703
2 Maned this today with a 80 Rogue whom controlled the dragon, and a 80 Feral Tank who collected adds off of dragon.
Strat.
Druid goes in and get first 3 adds. Then Rogue does not run up to Orb, but runs under it and clicks to control. While rogue is destroying the eggs the druid is collecting adds and running up to each platform then jumping down so the adds have to go around and the druid has time to Hot and heal everything that needs it. Once all eggs are down its gg.
评论来自
bonzai10
Still bugged. Im on opening AQ gate quest line and im frequently runing BWL. Been there 3 times recently and 3 times got bugged. Will do couple of runs this week and next on main and alts and see how it goes.
评论来自
CalaelenDT
Important to note is that classes that have active pets out will be unable to use the Orb of Domination until they have dismissed their pet.
Went in there with a Hunter, Paladin and myself (Death Knight) and both the Hunter and myself couldn't control the Orb, while the Paladin could. We had no clue what was up and decided to do it some other time as we thought the encounter was bugged. I finally found out the reason by a post on the Orb of Domination page that stated the pet issue, and since that's not a page people will drop by first I figured I'd post it here too for people having the same issue.
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83450
I've been toying with ideas on how to solo this as a feral druid tank.
I did find something interesting. I would run in and do MC on him from below the platform where Grethok is. Grethok and his guards would attack me (the bear) leaving me to freely crush a few eggs with Razorgore. After the MC ended I used Frenzied Regen to get back to full health, ran to the top of the platform, waited for the mobs to get to me and hopped back to the ground and MC'd again. At this point there were a LOT of extra mobs spawning but virtually all of them were going for me and not Razorgore. I was able to get in almost an entire second MC phase before I was killed. At this point all the mobs despawned except for Grethok and Razorgore. They continued to fight each other.
I wonder if I had a soulstone on if I were to pop up at that point and do start MCing again with Grethok chasing Razorgore around to keep him in combat between MCs, would the extra mobs start spawning again or would I be free to go about soloing the fight?
Has anybody tried this before?
Edit for spelling
评论来自
609114
Still bugged as of 4.0 (but then, what isn't?). Just get the whole raid to leave the instance then go back in after a few minutes.
评论来自
Cinnestra
I just two manned this last night with a feral tank (me) and a warlock. This fight requires a minimum of two people to defeat: one to kite the adds, one to control Razorgore.
I was our designated kiter. We tried several times with my prot pally (because, hey, pallies are unkillable right?), and had a ton of problems since I could not pick up all the adds. With the change to consecrate, you can no longer drop it continuously to help you maintain aggro. This resulted in a lot of hits on my partner, who would then get the debuff and be unable to MC Razorgore. Many wipes happened.
On my druid tank, this became no problem at all due to healing aggro. Imp. LOTP is crucial here - I faced the adds tanking backwards when able, using every GCD to trigger the heals from LOTP. For my kiting path, I used the good old figure-8, waiting til the adds all gathered on the platform and then jumped off. This gave me time to shift out and pop a rejuv and regrowth on myself, get back to bear form, and kite again.
Healing aggro was always a problem for druids in this encounter - I remember having to downrank as a resto druid in vanilla WoW and STILL getting threat on random mobs. Well, now it's working to keep all the adds trailing after me. It's amazing how fast they would all zone in on me, almost completely ignoring my partner. He took a few hits, but I could easily run up, swipe, and get the adds off of him.
You could probably do something to maintain healing aggro with a pally, but honestly it was so much easier with my druid.
After Razorgore, I swapped back to my prot pally and we easily downed the rest of BWL.
ETA: looks like they may have fixed the pet problem with the Orb of Domination. My warlock partner had his felguard out on aggressive to help keep the adds off of himself, and had no issues with the orb other than when he had the debuff.
评论来自
Nananea
Currently Razorgore is despawning after the first mind control fades (at least on Windrunner US). The fight will not reset even through dying until you reset the instance through the portrait menu. This is with 2 people doing the fight.
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688710
no luck on bladefist either, resteted once, didnt bother to try 3rd time, laaame as i only need teh red dragonflight for the questline =/
评论来自
164363
he appears to be bugged on live, in that if you try and kill him, he disappears and you're stuck killing adds until the end of your days.
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703817
quote from blue:
You're absolutely right; a problem was introduced in 4.0.3 where any interruption in the controlling will cause the event to get stuck exactly as you described. Luckily our developers caught onto it pretty quick, and it should hopefully be resolved next time the realm(s) restart. That will either happen as necessary during the cause of the week, or at the very latest, next week during maintenance.
My apologies for any trouble this caused you and your friends. :)
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=15309284243
评论来自
DrakeLord
At level 85, Razorgore can be duo'd with any class + a resto druid. I just did it tonight with a death knight.
The second class works on the mind controlling. Using the mind control orb will allow you to control him for up to 90 seconds. If you get hit once by mobs, the channel lasts 67.5 seconds. If you get hit twice, it lasts 45 seconds. Since the debuff lasts 60 seconds, you can have a 100% uptime with the mind control as long as you only get hit once or not at all.
The resto druid simply stacks Lifebloom on himself and runs back and forth around the room. With Lifebloom rolling, all adds will instantly aggro you from the healing and ignore Razorgore and your partner (ensuring 100% MC uptime). Simply run up the stairs on one side of the room, wait for the melee dragons to almost reach you, jump off, run to the other side of the room, run up the stairs, wait, jump, repeat. The mobs run slightly faster than you, so jumping off the platform gives you some breathing time where you're not being attacked while they do a bit of backtracking down the sides of the platforms. The caster mobs will just fireball you from wherever in the room they are. They're lousy shots, though.
I would imagine Shamans can also do this easily with Riptide and Ancentral Swiftness/Earthbind (keeping completely ahead of all melee damage) and
maybe
Priests with PW:S and Renew.
Also, it would seem the add bug as been fixed. After breaking all the adds, all mobs fled the room, leaving only Razorgore to be DPS'd down. Piece of cake. I popped Tree of Life, proc'd Nature's Grace, and enjoyed my 1 sec cast Wrath spam. ;)
Keep in mind I had the minor run speed increase at the time. I'm not sure if it's necessary though. I never really dropped below 95% mana with a rolling Lifebloom stack and an occasional Rejuv. I was only ever hit hard when the clump of melee adds caught up to me and all 50 of them smacked me all at once, which dropped me to about 75% health. I Swiftmended just to be safe.
I felt accomplished with the strategy, considering we had just wiped on 5 attempts to DPS the adds and desperately try to stay alive and not have Razorgore die prematurely. =P
We were both in iLvl 329 gear.
评论来自
supcat
Seems bugged after 4.0.6.
Tried 3-4 times with a raid today, and he will randomly wipe everyone like he normally will do when you kill him before the eggs are gone.
Edit: I did make a ticket about this after the first raid, and got a response within 10 minutes. The GM cleared all eggs but one for us, and we just had to clear that one to get to P2
评论来自
92984
tried the above, even tried various things like swapping people MCing when it expires and making sure no one did anything for the last 20 seconds of each MC, it still bugged out, evaded and blew us up repeatedly, even soft reset it - there were 4 of us in there, myself another hunter and druid / warrior.
Hope blizzard fix it soon
评论来自
159788
As of 4.0.6 I have confirmed that the boss is doable and will not wipe you after control loss if you grab aggro on him as hes running to the orb.
评论来自
deathtrap
It's comforting to know I wasn't the only person wiping on this guy... Gave it about 6 attempts before calling it off. Most times we would try right clicking the orb, a blue beam would appear, but no mindcontrol would happen.. boom. There was also one time that he was standing on the other platform across the room from us when mind control broke, he instantly teleported next to us and... boom.
So yeah, completely frustrating to say the least. Hoping for a fix sometime soon, my level 60 warrior would like some gear... but why fix old content? >.>
评论来自
michielseel
Bugges out randomly. Sometimes when channeling ends and sometimes you can't even use the channel device.
4 Whipes in a row:
some at the start and some with like 10 eggs left..
Not worth trying at the moment
评论来自
Wytebeard
Possible Solution #2!
When Razorgore has the mindcontrol fall off him, sometimes it causes him to drop out of combat as well, if you try and mind control before putting him back into combat it instant wipes the raid.
The Test? : hit him once. THEN mindcontrol
Please post if this had success with you all as well.
评论来自
789746
My friends and I (a feral druid, an elemental shaman and a blood death knight) decided to troll Blackwing Lair just for kicks, and we were having a problem with this guy evading sometimes as he rushed over to the orb to kill the controller. Naturally, this is a problem when your tank can't taunt him back over and when using the orb again doesn't do anything at all to solve the issue of an instant wipe on wheels careening towards you at high speeds.
Razorgore appears to bug and evade when the controller doesn't have Mind Exhaustion, the debuff that keeps them from using the orb again until it runs out, when he breaks free. Again, this hasn't been confirmed anywhere, and I haven't seen anyone else mention it, but I am almost certain that the lack of the debuff is what causes him to evade. Or at least maintaining the debuff is a workaround to whatever the real issue is. If he does go out of combat like others say he sometimes does (which causes him to evade) then somehow keeping the Mind Exhaustion debuff keeps him in combat when you lose control over him.
So, cut off possession of Razorgore a few seconds before the debuff runs out. Using /dance was a simple way to lose control (plus, bear dancing makes everything better). Our tank was able to easily pick him up after I danced and kept the debuff, and we didn't have the evading problem for the whole fight. The entire thing is a cakewalk without the evade bug.
As a side note, you have control over him for 90 seconds by default; if he doesn't get hit by anything, you definitely have to cut off control early, since the Mind Exhaustion debuff only lasts 60 seconds.
EDIT: Just this past Saturday (nearly a month after I initially wrote this comment) I ran Blackwing Lair with a new group and we could still /dance our way through Razorgore without any problems at all. We didn't try anything else (such as changing the placement of the orb controller, putting a dot on Razorgore, etc) and we were fine.
Edited for great justice and wording problems.
评论来自
777867
In order to avoid the "evade" bug you must kill most of the mobs or he will bug.
A new bug my weekly BWL group ran into last night was that no one was able to click on the orb at all, 3 wipes later we gave up.
评论来自
Widowkiller
Me and my warrior friend duo'd this place so I could tame Chromaggus. Man, this boss was a real pain in the rear. During the numerous wipes, I noticed that while controlling Razorgore, combat seems to randomly drop and return a second or two later. It also seemed to follow a pattern of every 20 seconds. I'm not sure if this was because of my warrior partner gathering everyone and never letting them hit me or what, but once I noticed the combat thing, I made sure the channel never broke while out of combat, and we downed it that very try. I can't guarantee that this will work for everyone, but just to be prudent, watch your combat state and make sure you are still in combat when you break the MC channel, and make sure the one not controlling the orb grabs aggro.
评论来自
Zyros
As of 4.0.6 encounter is bugged again. Read through all the above comments, adjusted accordingly, boss still wipes everyone after a MC break.
Even with sufficient threat built-up ahead of time, AoE being spammed on his location when he breaks, and someone else spam-clicking the orb as MC breaks - still nothing.
EDIT: Yes, we kept mobs up, too, to try and force everything into combat, no go.
评论来自
616167
For anyone who missed Lenarth's solution on page 2:
Break the mind control a couple of seconds before the debuff falls off. /dance works. He'll then aggro onto someone, instead of bugging out and resetting....and exploding.
All hail Lenarth, for the glory of the ingots!
评论来自
Kiruvi
Killed this boss last night; was able to diagnose and solve the evade/explode bug. The root cause is the level of people doing this raid; used to be, there would be 40 level 60's splattered all over the room, so Razorgore would aggro onto something when the Mind Control ends. However, with 80s and 85s all grouped together, diminished aggro radii mean he has nothing to grab onto to keep him into combat, resulting in his standard leaving-combat mechanic. This makes since as this bug first began cropping up around 3.0.
The solution we found was to have a lvl 80 boomkin Druid follow Razorgore around. As soon as the MC ended, they would start spamming Moonfire at the boss. He evades for a few seconds, but then they will start hitting, pulling Razorgore back into combat and allowing you to successfully Mind Control him again. I would assume that any fast, low-damage spammable spell would work the same way- as long as he is put back in combat before reaching the MC orb.
Using this method, we were able to complete 5 full mind control cycles, destroy all the eggs, and finish the boss.
As an added bonus, all adds despawned properly before the final phase.
评论来自
Nobbel
How to duo in Cataclysm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBal4uMCfOk
评论来自
Darthdavo
You
-HAVE-
to break the mindcontrol when you have the debuff on you. Or else he will bug, and everyone will die.
Personally, i break it when i have 5 seconds of the debuff left, then i retake him.
Edit
I haven't tried the tactic in the comment below, next wednesday i will attempt to and see the results.
But the tactics i used worked perfectly, and im not saying its better or not, you decide which you think suits you best.
Edit2
Just tried my method again (On a horde character), i slipped up and let the debuff run out whilst Mind controlling, afterwards the boss ran over to the orb, ignored us all and blew the orb up.
After that, i tried again and canceled it when the 'Mind exaustion' debuff was still up and at 5 seconds. No problems.
评论来自
780906
Like the majority of others, I was also experiencing the bug where Razorgore is unable to be mind-controlled, reaches the orb and explodes. My group (consisted of a Prot Pally, Demo Lock, and feral kitty) tried EVERYTHING for two weeks. We attempted to get around the bug by engaging Razorgore himself by AoEing right after he finished channeling his MC, right before his MC ended, we tried the /dance macro to get him to end the MC early, using Razorgore's sleep ability on the dragonkin to attempt to keep him in combat, and none of it worked.
SAVE YOURSELVES THE REPAIR -- after much testing,
we have finally figured out a successful way to get this $%^&*!@ down
. The person who will be mind-controlling Razorgore should be
BELOW THE PLATFORM
, in front of the MC orb. Whoever is picking up adds to refrain them from reaching and attacking the orb can stay at the top of the platform near the orb. (See screenshot provided below.) When the MC drops and all eggs are dead, Razorgore was on the platform and did not blow us up. Piece of cake, had no problems.
I hope this saves you guys some GM tickets, repairs, and irritation. Good luck!
EDIT: We have also found that pets make Razorgore leave combat and explode. If you are attempting the above method, dismiss all pets before initiating the boss. This should ultimately cure the bug with the method I have provided.
CLICK HERE FOR THE PLACEMENT SCREENSHOT!
评论来自
Choicecut
We've never had this issue since Cata launch up until now, but we're having this issue, tried every idea listed in the thread, none of them worked. Put them all together, didn't work.
Breaked Mc Early via /dance.
Had myself (non-Mindcontroller) with AoE down and attempting to attack Razorgore at the end of an MC.
Mindcontroller was located at the button of the stairs.
Attacked Razorgore as a form of pulling to ensure he had a player on his threat table.
and so on, anyone else been unable to do it, despite using all these suggested (and apparently functional) fixes?
评论来自
789746
Excellent news, everyone!
Razorgore has finally been hotfixed!
And I quote:
Blackwing Lair
Razorgore does not evade when attacked immediately after being released from the orb. He should also no longer reset when the orb controller is interrupted.
Rejoice and no longer cower in fear of a potential wipe on a level 60 raid boss.
评论来自
104108
I recently tried this with a total of 3 players, we were a resto shaman, moonkin druid and a protection paladin. Two of us raided BWL back in vanilla, so we tried the kite tactic that we were familiar with, this didn't really work, we also had problems with re-using the orb after the time expired, it would be interrupted right after the click, resulting in a wipe.
After a few unsuccesfull attempts we came up with a foolproof solution.
We used the following tactic:
Kill
Grethok the Controller
and his buddies.
After this, our paladin and druid positioned themselves under the orb, the resto shaman positioned himself in the middle of the room.
The paladin and druid control
Razorgore the Untamed
and started on the eggs, alternating turns after the rotation expires. They should stay out of combat.
Meanwhile, the resto shaman keeps healing
Razorgore the Untamed
(to get the adds off him) and himself while adds spawn, when they stop spawning he focuses healing on himself.
Now it's just about outlasting the damage while the eggs are taken down, after that the adds flee and you can engage
Razorgore the Untamed
.
When you've succesfully downed
Razorgore the Untamed
you'll find that the rest of
Blackwing Lair
is quite pushover and can be done with a tank 'n spank approach. It's still fun to do while reminiscing the old days of WoW Classic :)
评论来自
811107
This guy is not soloable even for a lvl 85! You cant destroy all of the eggs without atleast 2 peoples!
评论来自
Mattrip
I went through this a couple of times recently with a couple of my guild members. We had a great time doing it which you can watch here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVVT7gXTqZs
. The hunter in our group had tamed Chromaggus the week before, which got a lot of attention once we were back in Stormwind! With 2-3 lvl 85s this is a pretty quick way to grab some old school loot and a good amount of gold.
There's a little guide to Razorgore at the start too.
评论来自
gtadem
Just duo'ed this and being an AOE tank, it was VERY easy once I figured out the trick. Have your 2nd person stand in front of the platform and use the orb to control the boss while you kill the controller and his entourage. Have them break eggs near the orb at first. When adds start to spawn, pick them up and bring them to the center of the room. AOE.
It really is that simple. As long as you're actively adding aggro to mobs, new adds that spawn will quickly forget that they came for the boss and/or the mind controller and instead go to you. I was happy to see this work because it's HIGHLY repeatable and I won't have to waste my guildies' armor anymore.
评论来自
Winssis
Just soloed this on my mage.
Thanks to:
Now its soloable!
Check video guide
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=180879
Done by hunter and mage.
I had to survive 3 waves of adds, so HobbY's comment above ain't actually true.
What you want is to keep the controller alive just in case.
评论来自
161245
I don't see how people are able to do this, it's physically impossible for me as warrior to do this alone. I don't have engi or anything
评论来自
Winssis
You need to have either engineering, or you need to be a goblin. Like me, so I can confirm it works.
Im not actually sure about the mechanics that spawn the adds. Sometimes I had the adds coming before my 2min cd on rocket jump was over. Other time I had to wait like 6mins for the second wave to spawn.
评论来自
CYB3RKN1GHT
You do have Warrior heroic leap :D
评论来自
Iroared
Couldn't solo it (although maybe I could if I try harder, I do have engineering), but bringing one of my 60 alts on another account makes it quite easy. Pull and kill the controller, position your alt under the orb and control the boss. First couple times I had problems with my alt dying somehow (combat log only showed two 700 hits, not quite enough vs 6k health), perhaps it had something to do with controller getting his MC off. Then just run after the boss pulling adds off of him (divine storm was a great help here, since it healed my alt and aggroed the mobs from across the room) and tabbed every 10 seconds to burn another egg.
For some reason, after all eggs were gone and I killed the boss, adds started spawning again and never stopped, only fixed by running out of the instance and waiting for ~15 minutes.
评论来自
Athenia
How I dual box through BWL with my warrior and priest. (ilvls ~353)
Razorgore the Untamed:
The key here is to not waste time with Razorgores "destroy eggs" ability, it has a seven second cooldown so use it as soon as it comes off cooldown. Have the warrior pick up the adds from the orb platform and the priest immediately MC Razorgore and destroy the first egg, then kill the adds and warrior moves to the middle of the room. So long as the warrior is around the middle area (the big square between the two platforms) the adds will ignore the player on the orb and attack the warrior in the middle.
Clear out the eggs on Razors platform first, you want to keep him in the middle of the room with the warrior so the adds can be picked up more easily.
This is multitask heavy: Kill egg, move razor to next egg while "destroy egg" is on cooldown, tab to warrior, pickup/kill adds, tab back to razor to kill next egg, rinse and repeat.
Tip:
Make sure you have plenty of time remaining on the MC before killing the adds on the orb platform, if it breaks while he is there he may destroy the orb and wipe the encounter.
Vaelastrasz the Corrupt
Nothing special here, go dps and nuke the hell out of him - with two toons it should not be all that difficult. You simply have to kill him before Burning Adrenaline kills you.
Broodlord Lashlayer
Tank n spank, keep your back to the door so he doesn't knock you into the adds.
Firemaw
Tank n spank, but kill him quickly.
Ebonrok
This guy is tricky. Warrior as tank, priest as dps. Ebonrok will periodically put a debuff on the current target that heals him for 25,000 every time he hits that target - needless to say unless your dps is godly you will have to target swap each time this happens. Here's how to do it.
Have your tank stand with his back to the wall up where Ebonrok patrols, have the priest stand about 30 yards away from the tank - the priest will open up as dps until Ebonrok puts the debuff on the priest, the warrior then taunts but
DOES NOT ATTACK
Ebonrok - this is important. Ebonrok will go to the warrior and and begin attacking him - all you want to do is pull Ebonrok off the priest long enough for the debuff to drop off. If the priest resumes attacking as soon as Ebonrok is over at the warrior he should surpass the warriors threat and Ebonrok will return to the priest right about the time the debuff is put on the warrior.
In this way Ebonrok will not hit the target with the debuff to heal himself, or no more than a couple of swings.
Keep Power Word:Shield up on tank at all times, Ebonrok won't heal as no damage is done. If you don't have a priest, use the above method.
Flamegor
Tank n spank.
Chromaggus
Another somewhat tricky fight, firstly make sure both toons have ample amounts of Hourglass Sand to remove Brood Affliction: Bronze - if you have been killing the trash from Broodlord Lashlayer up to this point you will have plenty of it.
The key here is never let all five debuffs be up at once, as this will mind control your character - which will then kill your other character, and reset Chromaggus.
Keeping the priest out of LOS of Chromaggus does not appear to work anymore, they will still receive the debuffs. As soon as a debuff comes up that can be removed, remove it - except Brood Affliction: Red, multiple stacks of this makes it pretty much impossible to keep off and keep dps up on your warrior so concentrate on keeping Brood Afflictions: Blue, and Bronze off your toons and keep dpsing - red will eventually start to hurt a lot so kill Chromaggus as soon as possible but ALWAYS make sure to keep those debuffs off.
Nefarian
Tank n spank, use the alcove* to channel all the adds into one place for easy pickup.
Make sure your priest is close to your warrior so he doesn't get smashed by the adds later in the fight, they can still kill clothies fairly quickly - even at 85.
*The alcove. When facing the throne turn 90 degrees to the right and you'll see a sort of short tunnel with rubble in it.
Happy hunting!
Ath.
评论来自
spectrefax
It's still bugged. Solo, you cannot use the mind control orb at all.
评论来自
672820
Regardless of what people have said about this, it
IS
possible to solo right now without being a goblin or engi. I have no idea why some say the mind control orb doesn't work. It did for me.
Using my 85 ret (ilvl 358), I began by disposing of the controller and his friends and quickly taking control of Razorgore from below the platform, standing on the little ledge beneath.
Burst as many eggs as possible before the MC breaks, while making sure Razorgore is nearby when I resume control of my paladin. You then kite him around, spamming AoE's to both heal yourself and dispose of as many adds as possible until it's time to take control of him again.
The trick to succeeding here is to reliably be able to evade Razorgore using the platform and ledge below, causing his health to reset. This doesn't reset the encounter. It can be a little difficult to master this part, but it's very possible.
It's vital to pick your moments as to when you should go breaking more eggs, I always made sure both Razorgore and myself were on full, or close to full health and preferably there would be few adds around too.
I saved bubble to break the conflag when things looked to be getting a bit hairy, whether pvp trinket would also work I don't know, I didn't test it.
Once all the eggs were dealt with, it was fairly trivial to burn Razorgore down and collect my level 60 purples.
All in all it took about 15-20 mins to complete.
评论来自
672820
EDIT: As promised here's a video I made tonight of a my paladin soloing Razorgore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrfapltZ-K0
It's not really hard to figure it out. The "platform" is the podium-like structure with the mind control orb. The "little ledge below" is exactly that, a slightly raised lip at the front of the mind control orb platform.
-
I'll try to explain a little better:
I'm using Seal of Righteousness and Righteous Fury.
The Pull
- Run in and head up the near ramp towards the MC orb, clear the mobs from the platform and use the orb, Razorgore will probably be pretty close at this point.
MC phase
- I usually jump off the front of the MC orb platform, onto the kerb in front. I may choose to use Holy Radiance or Consecration just prior to clicking the orb if necessary (it rarely is). Run around bursting eggs, generally I'll destroy the nearest one to me and then head to the far end of the room until the MC timer is nearly up. At this point I'll start heading back towards the MC orb, continuing to pop eggs on the way.
Post-MC phase
- I seem to have trouble manually breaking MC, whether it's a bug, or my UI I don't know. Anyway, once it's broken, I'll launch into a flurry of aoe in order to thin out the adds and "hopefully" evade Razorgore...
The best I can explain it is as follows.
Run up one of the ramps to the MC orb and he'll follow, jump off the front and step onto the ledge below while spamming Divine Storm, Holy Wrath and whatever else you feel like using. If you time it right he'll evade, so will some adds most likely. The basic rules of evading mobs apply here, if you try to hit him when he can't hit you he'll evade. Divine storm from underneath him, hitting a couple of adds that have his attention seems to work. He will figure out how to reach you and run down the ramp a lot of the time, just keep trying.
It's also possible to do by being on top of the MC platform while he is on the floor below. Using Judgement to gain some distance from him while he's stopped to cast, he will sometimes get stuck just at the corner of the platform, on the ground, near the ramps at either side. When trying to evade him you have to make sure your attacks hit him so he "notices" he can't hit you in return and resets. I haven't got either evade technique down to a science yet, but on my latest kill, he didn't come close to dying so I'm getting better at it.
Once his health has reset, adds are under control and your MC debuff is gone, repeat the process until all the eggs are done.
Bubbling the conflag isn't required to complete it, it's just a bit of insurance in case I have trouble resetting his health, or adds are starting to get too much. I'm fairly sure other classes will be capable of using this tactic, providing they can heal themselves well enough.
I've managed to clear the entire instance solo for three weeks running now, since discovering this tactic.
Good Luck.
评论来自
710718
Conflagrate is what will get him kill in this fight. He constantly conflagrated me to the point that I was stunned for so long that he died to the adds. This is what always wipes me.
评论来自
772490
Razorgore can be two-manned, if you chose your classes carefully. Myself on a Smite-spec Disc Priest, and a Blood Death Knight were able to complete this event.
You do not
have
to kill the adds. If you are a healer, you can heal Razorgore through the damage the adds cause him (PW:S works on him), while grabbing aggro from the Mind Controller using AoE abilities, and then kiting the adds off the platform (Holy Nova, Consecrate, Hurricane, etc). If the mind controller gets the debuff, you can easily take over the orb, while they round up and kill adds (This requires an AoE class, or another healer class which has AoE capabilities. Rogues are capable of doing this easily, if they have the Glyph of Fan of Knives).
Rinse and repeat. Once all of the eggs are destroyed, be ready to AoE down any remaining adds, before going all out on the boss.
This method does have the highest percent for glitching once Razorgore is dead, from my experience. However, the adds will not (or should not), follow you into the next room. If you trust the person you're with, keep it on Group Loot, so that you can loot on the run. Otherwise, run completely out of the instance (ensure that any dead persons pop their corpses and res outside), and take a fifteen minute break.
Classes which have pets will find that they are unable to click the orb of control. There is no work-around for this glitch, except for dismissing your pet until Razorgore is killable.
评论来自
445579
I'm actually a little annoyed that they have yet to fix this bug.
Because fixing a bug on 5 year old content is a high priority on Blizzard's checklist. Especially a bug that has a work around.
评论来自
Smalblu
This boss has an affinity for exploding, it seems, as due to the evade bug, he blew up my 10-man guild ach hunting group
26
times (yes, i counted,) before we called it.
评论来自
shadey81
I wasn't aware there was any problems with the fight till I came here
I was a 73 rogue and I stood on the platform and just used the mindcontrol orb thing while an 85 paladin and hunter just kept rounding up the adds
评论来自
Nobbel
A video guide on how to solo BWL as a hunter (or a goblin) without killing Ebonroc/Chromagus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkrUOVxe9Oo&hd=1
Hope it helps!
Nobbel - Terokkar EU
评论来自
575688
Warrior soloing This encounter . NO cheats or racials used
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FxU1dLJUs4&feature=channel_video_title
Enjoy
评论来自
141925
Is it just me or did they hotfix something here? This week on my weekly BWL solo the adds came out way sooner, I only got to destroy 2 eggs before they came, and when I jumped up to the ledge to reset Razorgore's health I was teleported back down. Anyone else?
EDIT: seems to have been a fluke, but it happened 3 attempts in a row. 4th attempt everything was normal and he went down with ease.
评论来自
627078
He can easily be killed if you have two accounts and are good at window switching.
The method is quite simple, and has already been explained here: bring two characters on different accounts (85 feral and 70 rogue in my case), have the weakest one control the orb and the other aggro and kill the adds. A dual monitor setup, or two windows slightly overlapping are helpful to keep an eye on the chaneling bar.
It is easier than doing it with only one character, but still more challenging than bringing a friend. Not everyone will agree that this can still be called "soloing", but if you have two accounts and want a bit of fun, it is well worth the try.
Now on to Vael!
评论来自
rebsten
While this is still impossible to solo, this is very easy to 2 man for a Prot warrior with any other partner. Let me elaborate a bit.
If you spec prot, throw a few of your extra talents into Blood Craze. Have your partner MC Razorgore.
You will clean the adds off your partner, then off Razorgore. Avoid killing them.
Blood Craze will be up almost constantly. All adds will aggro onto you by default. Just watch where you stand. I prefer to stand about 41 yards away from the platform to force the caster adds to run to me and not AOE on my partner, however, you can also run in circles around the pillars if you prefer.
Keep the melee adds away from Razorgore. Even if they are aggro'd onto you, they will focus a very hard hitting move called
Dragonbane
on Razorgore.
Aside from that, it should be a clean 2 man. Happy farming.
评论来自
NephilimX
I just ran into something interesting that happened when I was just soloing on my hunter: I had done the first wave and despawned them, and hopped off the platform to engage again. I burned the two guards while making a run for the orb, clicked it, and at the very same time got hit with a rather unlucky conflagrate. The interesting part? The conflagrate didn't break my control. Despite being conflagrated and running about wildly, I was still safely channeling. Needless to say I wasn't expecting that. So if you happen to get hit by a conflagrate right as you're trying to control him, it won't leave you cursing with 30 seconds of a debuff to mess up your attempts.
tl;dr - if you get off a channel fast enough, an unlucky conflagrate amazingly won't break it and screw up your attempt.
Just an interesting thing I felt might be worth mentioning, so someone in a similar situation doesn't just see the conflagrate and assume that control was blown, cause that's exactly what I did for the first few confusing seconds until I realized what happened.
评论来自
896952
looks like they've fixed the balcony issue at least for me. everytime I jump to the balcony to semi-reset, razorgore teleports me to him. Tried him 5 times before I stopped, each time he teleported me whilst on the balcony.
评论来自
scpovey
DUOED, in patch 4.3
1 prot warrior
1 affliction lock
Strategy:
Prot warrior gathers up all of the ads using regular melee swing so they don't die.
Lock kills the eggs while controlling razergore.
Very simple
评论来自
123704
anyone wondering what syel said its simply this: this boss is not soloable due to the mechanics required to controll the boss and handle the mobs, any claiming to have solo'ed this boss is lying and to solo something it has to be by yourself if you have a friend (which is required to defeat this boss" its duo'ing not solo'ing
评论来自
Kaiokenx
Soloed legitimately as an arms warrior.
Like many people have said, the whole strategy relies on the threat generated from blood craze, but it requires some finesse to pull it off. I am in defensive stance the whole time for the extra threat modifier. I spec into second wind as well in case Razorgore gets off a stomp, and as a human I can just racial trinket out of it which refocuses the adds back onto me while getting extra healing/threat. I basically use thunder clap to keep adds on me since it is low damage and I don't have to worry about taking chunks of life away from the boss. When I'm getting overran with adds, I just bladestorm.
I'll start the pull not killing the three adds at the beginning in hopes of proccing blood craze for the first set of adds that spawn. I try to get the eggs closest to the orb first but I always manage to put Razorgore at the other end of the room to allow time for the orb debuff to fade and by the time he gets back, I can retake control before he can do anything serious. You have to sustain this for about 7-10 minutes without any major mistakes so just be patient because sometimes a bad conflag can ruin a great attempt.
After attempting this 30+ times I can tell you that the game winner was when I started putting Razorgore way in the back of the room before I lost control. I could easily manipulate his path back to me and keep him from getting off a stun or conflag a lot easier.
评论来自
Vice92990
As far as Soloing as a Hunter / Goblin Doesnt seem to be possible anymore. If you get Razgor's aggro before you jump the the balcony he will not teleport you to him.However if you have already got rid of some eggs or your jumping to the balcony for the 2nd time, you will notice when the adds reset and run away the eggs Respawn.
As of right now not able to find anyway around this.
评论来自
153944
Just to reiterate: Only click the orb ONCE! I was spam clicking the 1st couple of times and wondering why I always had the exhaustion debuff...
I dual-boxed it.
There's almost no drama involved for the MC toon. All the adds will either be focused on the other Toon (or on Razorgore). Just sit tight if the debuff has a few seconds to go, and click calmly when it's clear. I ignored this toon until the channel (and debuff) were finished, and then switched over to click the Orb.
The 'add' Toon just needs to smack Razorgore lightly (or fire off a big heal), when the MC wears off, to get his attention. As a Ret, Divine Storm and the occasional Word of Glory was enough to keep all the Mages focused on me (use Righteous Fury). Cast off a manual heal now and then, if needed, to attract the Mages. Just noticed I passively healed Razorgore 260k with Divine Storm (yay Ret). But he was never in danger of dying.
Once I realized not to spam click the orb, it was an extremely easy kill.
评论来自
Thottbot
After weeks of hard work we got this fella down.
We lagged a lot but downed him anyway! Just kite , kite, kite and KITE! :D
评论来自
Thottbot
Guy's,people are here looking for strategie's on defeating razorgore,and very few of them care about the black book.Focus gentlemen
评论来自
Thottbot
If anyone cares...here's a vid of my raid group downing him from my (priest) point of view
http://files.filefront.com/KoP_Razorgorewmv/;5236920;;/fileinfo.html
Youjeen
Proudmoore
Undead Priest
Enjoy!
评论来自
Thottbot
We were stuck on Razorgore for about 2 weeks when I finally had my guild switch strategies. Our original strat was for the shamans to kite the legos while the hunters kite the dragonkin, tanks help kill the mages, rogues stunlock mages, dps kills mages, and priests heal very little, while druids sleep any loose dragonkin.
Reasons why this didn't work: It was very luck based, one dead shaman meant it's a wipe b/c if a good kiting shaman has 3+ legos on him, that meant that as soon as he died, there would be 3 loose legos. Priests could barely heal doing it this way, they might pull aggro on mobs around them, esp the legos. Tanks weren't doing much either, since you really only need rogues to stun lock the mages.
New strategy: DPS all orcs, and have hunters kite the dragonkin like usual. As soon as an orc pops up, kill it, be it a mage or legionnaire. Rogues stunlock mages, warriors tank legos, priority is to kill mages first, then kill the legos the tanks are tanking. If anything else spawns, sheep or seduce them. At some point, you will be overwhelmed with lego's 3+ each corner. At this point have the tanks start kiting (make sure the shaman in each corner has earthbind up) and rogues and dps continues to kill mages.
At about 6-8 eggs, you want to do a volley (make sure you dont do volley late in the MC cycle, b/c you could release his control at a bad spot) so 6-8 eggs left, have the "kiting warrior" control the orb, get to the middle of the room with razorgore, volley, now almost all legos will be on razorgore, bring razorgore to the EAST corner and throw in a cleave or whatever, once he starts to get pounded on to about 50% release the orb (by doing /dance) everything that aggro'd razorgore will come to the orb controller, but now they will all be bunched up and much easier to kite. Let the kiting begin. This warrior should have swiftness pots b/c if he gets caught he's dead and chaos will ensue. A few things to do while this is happening, KEEP DPSING THE MAGES. Really important here to keep doing that. If any legos get too close to the warrior, give it a frost nova, maybe even a fear, but especially piercing howl if you got it.
Okay so as soon as he releases control and starts his kiting, have the "tanking warrior" the one you plan on tanking razorgore, to control the orb since the last egg that gets popped, the aggro will turn to him. After the last egg is dropped, any melee that is not a tank stay the hell back and help bandage people and use a bow. Tanks rotate tanking since he likes to conflag in a cone shape, so dont be infront of the main tank, stay on the opposite side of him. Once he gets conflagged, tank #2 on aggro list gets to tank it.
Ranged dps: Take it nice and slow here, you DO NOT WANT TO BE #2 ON THE AGGRO LIST. Let me repeat that, YOU DO NO WANT TO BE #2 ON AGGRO LIST. If you are, he's coming straight for you and you'll probably wipe the entire raid on one of the easier "boss fights". Take it nice and slow, imagine it's Onyxia phase 1, use low rank bolts and a few dots here and there. It's not a DPS fight at this point, just take him down nice and slowly, he has no 20% enrage or anything like that. Anyhow good luck to you all, hope this helps.
Akebono - Nightshift GM
评论来自
Thottbot
he looks just like the last boss in UBRS
评论来自
Thottbot
Razorgore is the first boss in BWL, located in the very first room. You're safe to step inside the room without getting aggro. It took my guild 2 weeks to successfully kill him. Didn't drop anything for me (a druid) but nontheless, a great accomplishment for us :)
There are good guides out there, easily searchable via google or wowwiki, so I won't bother with a walkthrough. Tips, though: warriors and hunters should get a pair of boots with a Minor Speed Increase enchant, and hunters should use aspect of the monkey to reduce the chance of being hit. In a nutshell, Phase 1 is like organized chaos, and Phase 2 is a fairly standard dps fight. Make sure you have 2 warriors at the top of his threat list in Phase 2.
It can be frustrating to learn, but it's quite fun to watch (from a healer's perspective). We downed Vael the next week. Things are looking good, as of the moment.
评论来自
Thottbot
Here is what we do to make this work for us. It couild be used on either faction.
Designate the corners for each group to go into. Each corner should have 2 five man groups in them. Your MT and a Hunter should take turns controling the orb. They can stand in the middle of the room before the fight starts and not pull the boss or the MCing mobs. After the mages sheep the to mobs on either side of the named NPC on the orb, kill the named mob and then the others one at a time. There should be about 20-30 sec after the start of the fight before the Orc mages/legioneers and the dragonkin start spawning. Start breaking the eggs on the right side of the room first. Be sure to kill the eggs in a logical route waisting the least amount of time possible between egg kills.
Designate 2 warriors with piercing howl as the kiting warriors. They will start kiting on opposing sides and run a diagonal route between sides using demo shout and piercing howl when ever it is up. As they are approaching mobs not trained behind them, they should throw a sunder or hit them followed by both shouts. If there seems to be a problem gaining mobs, hit them with a taunt when you run by or grab lots of them with your aoe taunt. When you are running into the corner, jump over the edge to the ramp and go up it. This forces the mobs to go around the end to go up up. Then you will run to the opposite side of the top of the platform and jump off the corner near the torch/fire things. Now you head for the opposite side of the room to the corner. This will take some practice, so dont get discouraged. You will need some speed pots, health pots, and boots with a minor running speed enchant on them.
While the warriors are kiting, healers should be throwing low rank renews or other heal over time spells on them as they run by. If you heal too much to fast, you will gain aggro and get smoked. This will most likely cause your raid to wipe the first few times it happens. Just adjust your heals. It helps to have the whole raid have the KLH Threat Meter (from curse gaming) and you use it on the next fight with vael as well.
Dont kill anything other than mages from the corners as they come out. Have a mage sheep or a rogue sap/gouge them as soon as they come out. Have anyone else do what they can to dps/counterspell them orc mages to minimize damage delt. Rogues kick, mages couterspell, warriors pumle/shield bash, locks curse of tounges, but be sure to lay on the dps. The orc legioniers will be kited by the kiting warriors on each pass through the corners. You can have a druid sleep the dragon kin and then the kiting warriors can smack them to gain aggro. The max limit i believe is 40 mobs in the room at one time.
When you get down to 2-3 eggs left, make sure your mt is ready to take over the mind control orb. He needs to break the last egg because razor will run to that person and it needs to be your mt. Have the OT be ready on the tail side of razorgore as the MT drags razorgores nose about 5 steps from the corner facing away from the rest of the raid. Your MT will get conflagurated by razorgore and the OT should rotate in and take over the aggro, turning the boss back into the corner. When the MT is done with the conflag the boss will go back to him. This boss in untauntable, so the MT and OT need to be fighting to be 1 and 2 on the aggo list. It also a good ideas to have a 3rd ot readdy to step in if one of the other two tanks die. Let the two tanks build up aggo until about 98%. Then have the raid do ranged only dps slowly and then get progressivly more as the fight goes on.
All healers should be on the tanks at this point. Warriors and rogues get to play healers at this point. Place bandages and crystal restore (made in ungoro from the pylons) on the rest of the raid at that point. Keep all the debuf slots filled with dots and debuffs. Just take the boss down like this until he is dead.
The key in phase one is to keep the kiting warriors up and to not pull aggo as a healer. In phase 2, the tank transition is the key along with keeping your tanks up. By the time you are trying this boss, your MT and OT should have 7500-8000 health buffed with 8000 armor or more and over 400 def.
I hope this helps. I will review it to make sure I didnt miss too much! Enjoy the fight.
评论来自
Thottbot
We usually kite the mobs, but we were wondering about DI. So one day we went to see if we could actually DI him. We had numerous pallys try, but when we targetted him and clicked it, it said "Target is not a player". So it is now impossible to DI.
评论来自
Thottbot
since last patch di cannot be used anymore.
评论来自
Thottbot
Looking for tactics, and thott is empty?
评论来自
Thottbot
How manu char. shall there be in a raid to kill Razorgore the Untamed?
评论来自
Thottbot
well 25? but since BC i doubt guilds will be doing bwl much
评论来自
Allakhazam
teh difference between alliance and horde is that, alliance uses warriors to kite legioners. Warriors do piercing howl to slow them down.
The rest is the same =)
评论来自
Allakhazam
lol he looks like a fat drakkisath!
评论来自
Allakhazam
what exactly happen in the 1st room?
just take a peek and see lots of adds coming to us..
评论来自
Allakhazam
damn razorgore won´t give me my sword *whine*
评论来自
Allakhazam
Whens a good time to start doing BWL?
Down rag 2 or 3 times sound good enough?
评论来自
Allakhazam
chainfear ;)
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is one hectic fight, there are mobs all over the frikkin place.
http://www.filenuts.com/download.php?det=283
Edited, Tue Dec 13 08:27:51 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Appears to be nerfed in 1.9, was cake :/
评论来自
Allakhazam
razorgore is a simple fight with good loots <3 it
评论来自
Allakhazam
Anyone who can share some tactics to kill this big guy?
评论来自
Allakhazam
we have been trying to get him down as well, we usually get to the last eggs, then the room is filled with dragon adds.
We have tried to agro them with razorgore by using his AoE attack, but a few usually peel off him and attack healers.
Because he has such a high amount of dps, we tried to let him kill all the adds (just help a little bit), but we havent got the hang of it just yet.
Maybe someone else can post some ideas about how to kill him after the last patch?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Loot from Razoregore Lifetime:
Bracelets of Wrath
Untamed Blade
评论来自
Allakhazam
i so wanna get to lvl 60 now to get that unyamed blade =)
评论来自
Allakhazam
has anyone gotten the dragonstalker off of him? if so, how many times did it take?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Has anyone else found this event to be ungodly tough post-hotfix? My guild tried it some 6 times and between the 10 second lag and the 200 spawns we just called the raid... I heard they also upped Razorgore's egg bash time from instant to 5 seconds... which could have been our problem...
评论来自
Allakhazam
Nightmares VS Razorgore
watch & learn ;)
Edited, Sat Aug 27 09:24:45 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
HEi i want pic please
评论来自
Allakhazam
This guy looks like a couch potater! I could go for some netherwind bindings off him though. Maybe some Gloves of Rapid Evolution.
Edited, Tue Feb 28 16:18:19 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
My guild tried this one 10 times, we never got past killing all the eggs after the hotfix 2..
Does more adds spawn then the guy at the controlling Orb gets interrupted, or what?
We're always overrun even though we sheep and kill off.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Kill Grethok +his guards
2 grp in each corner
Each 2 grp have
-1 druid for sleep
-1 hunter for traps (feign death...)
-1/2 mages for sheep (only on meelees)
-1 rogue with mt that marks which 1 will get killed
-1 Priest for mindcontrol on meelees --> they attack dragons and die
-and finally 1 warrior that picks up the dragons when there are ~ 3 in his corner
Important: -casters must be killed
-meelee only get killed if all sheeps and mindcontrols are used
-Priests and druids MUST heal but not too much
-pally have to buff the anti aggro buff on anyone except the warriors
Razergore has got a very strong aoe spell that can be used to get aggro of all the mobs in the room this should be used @ about 6-8 eggs then anyone has to slow and fear the mobs, if you start to early you may have to shield him (if he dies anyone dies)
When all eggs are gone he´s just like Draki and not very strong
HF :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
is it me? or does this guy look the same as drakk? or am i losing it?
Drakkisath = Razorgore?
评论来自
Allakhazam
You use Razor to destory the eggs by clicking on the orb where the controller is. Then u just kill the adds that come in while someone controls razor and destory all eggs in the room.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well before any hotfixes he had a 1 sec cast destroy egg and no cooldown, hotfix 1 made it 5 sec cast no cooldown, hotfix 2 made it 5 sec cast 5 sec cooldown. The first one was INSANELY easy, the middle one was the way it should have been and the latter one is insanely hard.
评论来自
Allakhazam
to keep it short and sweet (and this is for Horde only sry) and there may be more but this is to the bestof my knowledge from what I see during the fight
1) you kill the orb guards
2) use the orb to "tame" Razor
3) 4 druids, 1 in each corner, sleep dragons as they come out
4) 5 shamans lay Earthbind totems in a circular shape around the center of the room (kiting the legionnaires)they must use shock to gain aggro on the leggionnaires they aggro, 1 shaman in the middle replace any that pop early
5) hunters turn on aspect of the cheetah (not pack) and kite dragons around the entire outside of the room (be careful not to sleep or fear the kited dragons)
6) "tamed" razor pops eggs and kills adds (mages) along with melee (at least one group or melee in each corner to kill mages)
7) after all eggs are popped and a certain number of adds are killed ( i may be slightly wrong on that) they retreat, leaving you to fight razorgore
Warning: DO NOT HEAL PEOPLE or you may pull aggro of their mobs. Melee bandage inbetween battles with mages, small heals inbetween may be acceptable but I don't.
That's the best of my knowlegde, it may not be every detail but it should help with the majority of the strats it takes to down him
<3 Horde, sry Alliance
60 Tauren Druid
Stormreaver
Edited, Wed Sep 28 02:34:27 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is all about kiting the dragons and melee orcs, and killing only mages until razor is rdy to fight
评论来自
Allakhazam
No problemo. What's with this 'insanely hard', that's so not true.
评论来自
Allakhazam
OMG!,,,,,, he only has one nipple. very, very unusual
评论来自
Allakhazam
The first dragon in BWL for those who dident know.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Omg, incredible..
Dragonstalker really is THE rarest drop of all classes..
>_<
评论来自
Allakhazam
poop
评论来自
Allakhazam
Correction ten storms = worst drop rate :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Killed him this night.. After we finished the eggs off he had 1% really lucky he would have blown us up otherwise if he was killed :)
He dropped Nemesis and Transcendence Bracers.. And the mantle of doom (Mantle of the Blackwing Cabal)
Edited, Fri Jul 15 06:24:06 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Tree Hugging Hippies on Runetotem killed him on the 5th try :D
We rule :))
评论来自
Allakhazam
first kill got judgment bracers x2 and a untamed blade we were happy
评论来自
Allakhazam
UPDATED LOOT GUYS, NOW DROPS PRESERVED HOLLY AND A NUMBER OF OTHER END GAME ITEMS
评论来自
Allakhazam
Aye, this was my report that put the item up. Its a pretty sweet gem, cooldown is 2 minutes, a blast in Warsong flag rooms. Basically you launch a normal arcane shot at your target, it hits them for 192 then it blasts them and everyone within 10yrds of them for 181-210 dmg, crits for over 500.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Guys remember that he have only been killed a few few times! there is no way yet to tell what the % on his drops is.. we just have to w8 and see...
Well when you agro him you agro 3 other mobs. Not sure if they can be poly and if the eggs in the middle will spawn after a few mins.... He hits very hard on leather ( rogue here) And have a long agro line. the adds is 2x blackwing guard and aint hard and then a guy called Grethok the Controller. He dose arcane missiles for about 500dmg/hit, thats all i know so far...
Cheers.
评论来自
Allakhazam
We just killed him without lag, without bugs, with 5 seconds Egg cooldown. He is tough, but doable :-)
评论来自
Bunne
This first boss is a little tricky to get right. If you kill the wrong thing first, you instantly die. Here's what you do:
1. Go to the left platform, only kill the guard and ignore the other 2 mobs. Click on the orb.
2. You should now be a dragon: run to each egg and hit ability 2 to smash them. Repeat until all eggs are gone. Ignore or kill mobs, I don't think it matters much (I ignored them all).
3. Do not kill any mobs once you return to your toon. Jump out of the way, let the mobs attack Razorgore until you can get a clean shot at her directly, then take your shot.
You should have beaten her now. Again, do not kill any extra mobs. When I killed all 3 mobs before using the orb, I didn't transform into the dragon and died instantly. When I killed mobs upon return to toon, I was killed instantly.
If you do die and don't see the eggs when running back up to the room, go back towards the portal, but don't run through it. Now head back up to the egg room, they should have reset. If you go through the portal to exit, it is hard to get back in as you will get an error saying the instance is already in progress. I ended up doing a nearby dungeon/raid and came back. This seemed to work to get me back in.
Hope this helps! Note: I did all the Blackrock Mountain Raids/Dungeons solo on level 120 toon.
评论来自
lukethiel
I had to disable all my addons to successfully do this fight as of Shadowlands. I wasn't getting his abilities when I Mindcontrolled him.
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