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评论来自
13507
i have never seen this one acrully i dint know that you can get a hammer
评论来自
13334
The axe is better, but I chose this merely for looks. I love the way a big Tauren looks with a nice two handed club, seems to fit better. This baby does pack a punch though, it's extremely nice. If you don't want to be trendy and use an axe, go for this over the sword. Definitely.
评论来自
48291
The axe is not better.. This mace has higher dps. I hate how blizz made these all different, it would be better to have them all the same dps, people may argue that "its only a matter of 0.1-0.2 difference", but i still say it makes a difference between damage. You can always enchant these if you want looks.
评论来自
hypermonkey415
Whirlwind Axe: If you want huge burst damage
Whirlwind Sword : If you want speed
Whirlwind Hammer: If you want a tiny bit better DPS than the rest
DPS stands for damage per second, its the primary damage using both the speed of a weapon and the damage of the weapon, the only difference is by 0.1 percent; sword has 35.5, axe has 35.6, and hammer has 35.7. But if you want the one that looks cool then get the axe, but any of the 3 works, they're almost all the same!
If you plan on selling it just get the sword, it sells highest by a silver :P
评论来自
69031
Eyy go whit the mace i would say You take less damage if you got it and mace spec phhh i dont care if i do 20 more damage on a attack and 40 more on crit when you can stunn.
评论来自
50559
As a human warrior leveling through the 30s, this weapon is the superior choice. It has a unique benefit that the WW Axe does not: it gets the bonus of the human racial (5 expertise) while still being relatively slow to make use of Slam.
I'm currently using a Fury spec with 2/2 Improved Slam and it is significantly faster than Arms. Even more so since MS costs more rage and is not available until level 40, at which point higher dps weapons are available.
评论来自
chipcookie
Can you disenchant this weapon? I'd like to know because on my 32 warrior I already have a better mace so I could get the best out of the disenchanting.
~Chip
评论来自
204716
While the top end damage is higher on the axe, as a Human, the increased hit chance and crit chance from +5 maces outweighs the 10 damage. Also, since weapon speed doesn't affect instant attacks anymore due to normalization, the slower axe doesn't have any other benefit aside from the higher top end and larger white hits (since those are not normalized), but the rage gain from damage isn't great until after the WW weapons are obsolete.
As a human, the benefits of using the hammer are:
+5 Racial bonus:
a) increases hit rate and critical strike rate
b) higher and more reliable dps without spending talent points
c) reduces the chance of glancing blows, making difficult mobs easier
Slightly faster attack speed = steadier rage gain.
Slower than 3.30 attack speed = use of Slam without problems.
评论来自
octayne
As of 3.0.2 mace spec now gives you a chance to hit through armor, no longer stuns
评论来自
180488
I'd like to add the following to this debate: the pre-crit per-hit damages* of each weapon, prior to any talents:
Whirlwind Axe: 102-154 damage, average 128
Whirlwind Warhammer: 97-146 damage, average 121.5
Whirlwind Sword: 82-124 damage, average 103
Pure Damage Benefits of WWA over WWWH:
average 6.5 more damage per Whirlwind, Mortal Strike, or Slam
average 3.75 more damage per Overpower
1.3 + AP/350 damage per tick with Rend
3.12 damage per tick with Deep Wounds
Pure Damage Benefits of WWA over WWS:
average 25 more damage per Whirlwind, Mortal Strike, or Slam
average 12.5 more damage per Overpower
5 + AP/140 damage per tick with Rend
12 damage per tick with Deep Wounds
Pure Damage benefits of WWWH over WWS:
average 18.5 more damage per Whirlwind, Mortal Strike, or Slam
average 9.25 more damage per Overpower
6.17 + AP/233.3 damage per tick with Rend
8.88 damage per tick with Deep Wounds
These are the only warrior attacks which benefit from higher average weapon damage at this level, and white damage should, over time, be the same all Whirlwind Weapons. Myself, I see the racial expertise benefits as more useful than the slight pure damage lead that the WWA has over the WWWH for humans and dwarves, but at least now the exact damage benefits are spelled out.
* I purposely refrain from saying "top end damage" because people are incorrect in using it. What matters is the average weapon damage, which is just the average of top and bottom damage. This is more accurate, since instant cast attacks don't always use the top damage, they randomly determine the damage between the min and the max.
评论来自
Thottbot
I have never seen ONE warrior this weapon never ever I'd say it's better than the sword never took the time to look at it
评论来自
Thottbot
i had a choice between em but i wanted the axe cuz i dont like maces so u no...
评论来自
Thottbot
i got this mace it rocks i got a lvl 60 to help me with the quest so it wasnt that bad. didnt take that much time because i got the liferoot from AH the tusks were real easy cuz the trolls spawn real quick and the charms i got from the elements which are found in arathi highlands in the east binding west binding and outer binding. they are the hardest part but still easy. mace is awesome.
horde rocks!
评论来自
Thottbot
sure the whilewind axe may be slow but if they dodge you use overpower and BAM you will do massive damge it's pretty nice
评论来自
Thottbot
Alright, I know I may be a little late into this conversation but...
I am an arms warrior, and I use a 2h sword. Why? Because it's all in the preference. The axe may have a little more max damage, but sword spec has the capability to deal damage twice. I've once had that sword spec activate while doing a Cleave coupled with Sweeping Strikes. That made my Cleave hit the dude twice, which was doubled by Sweeping Strikes, and both of my opponents were hit 3 times for around 115 dmg each. That's about 445dmg to both of them. And that wasn't even a critical.
If you're that worried about critical strikes, to be honest... be a Fury warrior. But again, it's all up to your preference. Some people like doing damage (axe or polearm's criticals), some like the additional attack which COULD result in more damage than the axe or polearm (sword), and some like the stunning effect that could completely shut down an opponent and win you the battle (mace).
So please... don't go around trying to convince everyone that there is only one way to go with any class. It's all preference, and it depends on how you do things and how well you do them. And if you want to debate with me... at lvl 29 in WSG, I was attacked by two lvl 29 warriors, and using my Arms techniques I managed to kill one of them and brought the other to half-life before I died.
It's all preference. Do what you guys like. Just play smart and nobody can tell you you're wrong.
评论来自
Thottbot
it all depends on your specs and bit about your racial. being an arms war i went with axe and it served me fine until 37 were i had ravager.
评论来自
Thottbot
Me, I picked the Axe and threw +15 Strength on there to boot .. yes, that's right. It's great have a 60 enchanter with mats to blow.
Let me say this, having an axe with +30 Strength at level 33 ... that's hot! A level 40 mage tried picking on me yesterday and pwn'd his squishy arsh in five blows 8-)
评论来自
Thottbot
put crusader on these weaps? hm... thats really something....
评论来自
Thottbot
Nethirus is right it is like the master of all pizza cutters like look at this..........its a hammer hammer+pizza=NO! sword+pizza=maybe and BIG SUPPER PIZZA AXE+pizza=YEAH!
P.S if you suck at math that meens the axe is a good choice.......FOR DA PIZZA!
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评论来自
Thottbot
honestly. the sword or axe would be better for 2h Fury build...which most people dont realize is brutal PvE damage...
the axe is best for a MS build...but the sword or mace is better for 2h fury *depending on if you want harder/slower heroic strikes, or faster cleaves/heroic strikes...*
and the first guy who posted...about the pizza cutter..."my max execute is 1200 with the axe"...
execute is based off rage, not weapon damage...
you can get a 4k+ execute crit at level 60 with a level 1 dagger...learn your skills :)
评论来自
Thottbot
Got this hammer with my lvl 30 alt Warrior, put a firey enchant on it and now he is a little wrecking ball :)
评论来自
Thottbot
its a quest reward
评论来自
Thottbot
Pre Level 40 (heroic strike):
Get the SWORD. You'll be mostly using Heroic Strike which adds it's damage to the next available swing. Faster weapon, more swings, more damage.
Post Level 40 (mortal strike):
Get the AXE if you're an ARMS/Mortal Strike build. MS is an instant attack and you want the highest possible top end damage available.
Instant attack formula:
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/search?q=Normalized
The MACE is a waste of time.
Warrior rule.
Tankerbelle
评论来自
Thottbot
The quest starts as all the other class quests: AT THE GODDAMN CLASS TRAINER! (i'd would rather not post this at ALL the class quests on thottbot, so you bring the message guys!)
评论来自
Thottbot
Axe is the best down the middle..good X-Y damage, DPS, and slow speed..Sword is least damage but fastest..mace being second slowest with better damage than the sword, less X-Y than the axe, but .1 more DPS..depends on what spec you go in Arms talents, what race you are, or what you prefer in terms of looks or the effects of the talents
Warrior skills are based on the X-Y damage (ex 200-500) not the DPS, DPS is for white damage only, so if you go for something that has low X-Y damage it better have good $%^&in stats or be fast enough to make up for your weak ass crits
and for last time.
EXECUTE DOES NOT #$%^ING MATTER ON WEAPON U GODDAMN NOOBS
only thing that modifies Execute is
Melee Damage (not attack power) example ; enrage in fury talents
Critical Strike Damage, example; Impale in arms talents,
or Critical Strike Chance(Crit execute does more than regular) example; ...duh
评论来自
Thottbot
Get the axe! Or the sword! Or even the mace! Get one! It'll be quite a trip for you I'm sure, and please, come and screech about it on thotbot.com after you get one!
pst* read the comments that are in YELLOW, or just choose one weapon that you like! You won't be keeping this weapon for too long anyway. Look at the choices...and relax, pay attention but relax, please. This is just a game for fun.
评论来自
Thottbot
As Human Warrior, I chose the Hammer. I love it. Only does 6.5 less in damage output versus the axe, but that 3 sec stun with Mace Specialization more than makes up for it.
评论来自
Thottbot
What would be the best whirlwind choice for a 100% arms tauren? I want to kill enemies as fast as possible and taking as little damage as possible.
评论来自
Thottbot
Isnt that what all warriors want...?
评论来自
Thottbot
Look at sword specialization u get 5% chance to hit twice in a row so i think sword is good = \\
评论来自
Thottbot
As it has been said many times in this forum: all 3 of thsese weapons are excellent and it just depends on prefferance. I personally prefer the mace because i'm mace spec'd arms (plus it just looks freakin awesome)It may be luck, but i happen to get the stun effect quite often and it has saved my butt more times than any crit has both in PvE and in PvP.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Mace spec was boosted, generates rage now when the proc goes off :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hello together,
I got the Whirlwind Warhammer yesterday and I'm happy to got it with my lvl 30 Warrior cuz it is REALLY imba for this lvl. I put a +15 Strength Enchant on it because +30 Strength rocks. I respecced from Swords to Mace specialication and now have a 6% chance to, as already mentioned above, SHUT DOWN the enemy and this 6% are proccing very often. The only thing which @#$%s me off a bit is the *tock* *tock* sound while hitting.
Some additional info since patch 1.10:
Warrior has some skills which do weapon maxdamage + x
Since 1.10.1 this maxdamage will be calculated from the wow-engine via weaponspeed 2.7 so it TOTALLY does not matter which weapon you choose, all the same stats, all the same dps (yeah .2 difference but this is as wayne as my pink panties :P) and because of this, all have the same results in speed calculation of 2.7
I've spent lotsa hours in deciding which weapon i'll go for but as i already said, they are all the same so choose by style.
Btw: I pwnt TWO lvl 35+ mages and a lvl 36 Rogue yesterday all two- or three-hitted in Stranglethorn Vale. The mage was thinking something like
"WTF o_O why I was stunned all the time? 8["
评论来自
Allakhazam
That mace owns.....
评论来自
Allakhazam
NNOOOOBBBSSS ur all noobs. if u take the time to do the quest urself u get better weps ne ways. all three whirlwind items suck monkeybalss
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ive never seen anyone with whirlwind hammer, only axe and sword?
评论来自
Allakhazam
This weapon is good, however the sword can be much better. Depending on your build the sword can be vastly superior to the mace & axe due to its faster swing. Sure it's base dps is a little lower, however it is alot faster & speed=rage=extra damage.
Edited, Sun May 14 17:17:01 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Actually, the hammer looks pretty cool, plus its listed as the highest DPS of all 3 ^_~
评论来自
Allakhazam
I finished this quest with a lvl 60 friend. I got the Warhammer, for a few reasons. I don't care very much about the looks of my weapons, so I didn't really take that into consideration. I didn't really like the sword very much, because I am an Arms warrior, and it sucks for Arms. I have 0 skill in axes, and I'm not even trained in them, so the axe would've cost me more money, and time to level it up. So obviously, I chose the Hammer. Yes, mace specialization is not as good as axe and sword, but by the time I get there, I will probably get Bonebiter from SM. That is the main reason people usually get the Axe, because its specialization is considered the best. Hope this helps!
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