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illwill
46 Crit
15 Hit
92 AP
98 Armor Penetration
Vs Legacy:
40 Agi
80 AP
S3 Axe = 92 AP, 2.09% crit, 1% hit and -98 ArP
Legacy = 120 AP & 1% crit
This doesn't take into consideration talents such as Lightning Reflexes, and would not be a survival weapon due to the obvious factor of no agility.
Here is a little table for Armor Penetration
Armor Penetration is a bit more complex because it comes it varied amounts. If the boss has just SA x5 on it, then the effect of ArP is as follows:
100 ArP: 0.71%/0.64%
200 ArP: 1.43%/1.29%
300 ArP: 2.16%/1.95%
400 ArP: 2.91%/2.62%
500 ArP: 3.66%/3.3%
For a fully debuffed boss (SA x5, FF, CoR) the increase from ArP is:
100 ArP: 0.79%/0.71%
200 ArP: 1.59%/1.42%
300 ArP: 2.41%/2.15%
400 ArP: 3.24%/2.89%
500 ArP: 4.08%/3.64%
ArP table copied from EJ
评论来自
17916
It's well known that AGI is more effective at increasing hunter ranged dps than AP. But AP is probably significantly better for melee.
All things considered, I'd rather all the AP+CRIT itemized honor and arena items have an AGI+CRIT variant. This would also help feral and rogue dps.
评论来自
14215
This axe will be added in the next major content patch: 2.3 It will come available when the Season 3 will start.
Every hunters out there should get this "stat-stick". If you look at the stats (here we're talking PvP-wise) you have a huge amount of Stamina (62), alot of resillience (33) and all the other stats you need (hit, crit, AP and even ArP).
Yes the axe does lack of Agi but the secondary stats make up for it. Remember, this is a PvP weapon. It is meant to suit the PvP environment.
As for the PvE side, due to the REALLY low cost of this weapon, it is worth getting it. It will take you more time to get something better than this axe than to get 1000 arena points.
Blizzard gave us hunters a gift by letting us buy such an amazing weapon for a low cost. Before, we had to pay for a Crossbow + Weapon for a total of 7500 points! Now, we get the same result but for 4750. We all know that hunters take their weapon for the stats and not for the damage. So it's a nice move. You should all get it.
评论来自
25987
hit rating is much needed in arena. 5% is a bare minimum, with 1% unavoidable miss rate and other classes' talent, 7% or more is not overkill.
The AP bonus is lower (compare with Legacy), and it has no agility, the stam, resil, crit rating are all much needed in arena. the high dps (even higher than Halberd of Desolation) is the icing on the cake, and it's not overpowered. hunter has no instant melee attacks based on weapon damage. hunter has just 1 melee ability (raptor strike) based on white (weapon) damage, but it scales badly (fixed pathetic damage bonus), it's on a cd, and it's on next swing. consider the 3.6 second weapon speed, the hunter will be doing much less dps staying in melee even with a lucky raptor strike crit.
there is no 2h upgrade for hunters over sonic spear/legacy in SSC or Eye (untill lass boss). next one in queue is in BT.
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=32248
soon we'll see every hunter wearing one of these... an easy to obtain pvp 2 hander, works well in pve as well.
oh and the graphic just got changed.
评论来自
asole
Looks like april 1 joke from Blizzard.
评论来自
39249
I have Legacy (
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=28587
) with Savagery on it (
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/spell=27971
). Any one out there able to tell me if this axe will be better with either Savagery on it or +35 agi (
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/spell=28070
)? Just wanna see the stats put out so I know if getting this is worth it.
评论来自
Zone
I understand that this is a good idea for hunters but i think this is still unfair. Warriors and rogues yes can get a cheap throwing weapon but they rarely use it and when they do the damage isnt really going to make a huge difference. Where as a hunter with this is getting a huge stats boost in pvp and has a very strong mele weapon when they do get in close combat. I personally dont think it can compare to the little cost for a thowing weapon.
评论来自
saladami
It disgusts me that this is easier to get than sonic spear..
评论来自
52314
Small info about the season three weapon combinations.
Season three items.
HUNTER:
Hunter's melee weapon -
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=34014
1000 points
No rating needed
Hunter's ranged weapon -
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=34530
for example
3750 points
1850 rating required.
Total stats on both weapons:
93,2 ranged DPS ; 134,2 melee DPS
62+24 = 86 stamina
15+0= 15 hit rating
46+16= 62 crit rating
33+13= 46 resilience
92+34= 126 Attack power
96+0= 96 armor penetration
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WARRIOR:
Warrior's melee weapon -
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=33670
for example
3750 arena points
1850 rating is needed
Warrior's ranged weapon -
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=33765
1000 points
No rating needed.
Total stats on both weapons:
134,2 melee DPS ; 92,9 ranged DPS
62+24 = 86 stamina
15+0= 15 hit rating
46+17= 63 crit rating
33+12= 45 resilience
92+30= 122 Attack power
96+0= 96 armor penetration
Result? Both weapon combos have nearly same stats and same purchase price. Hunters have cheap melee weapon, but they have to pay more for ranged weapon with same stats as thrown weapon.
评论来自
82881
Even if you despise arena (like I do) you should ***highly*** consider putting up with arena for 2-4 weeks to get this. Ten quick games a week, and you will have this beauty which is on par with end game content gear. Definitely worth the investment especially if you don't have access to 25 man content.
评论来自
87458
the thing that i do not understand about this is why did they make a axe specialy for hunter "just for stats" that doesnt requir hunters to have any rating whatsoever.
but when we look at something els, lets say shields.
they still cost as much as most 1-h weapons do and requir a 1850 rating. and when upgraded from season 2 gear its just a minor boost.
评论来自
Icecoldcoke
Nerfed in 2.4:
Live: 134.2 dps, 386-580 dmg, 3.6 speed
PTR: 134.0 dps, 321-483 dmg, 3.0 speed
评论来自
131804
if only the stam was replaced with like 50 agi instead that would make me happy still though blizz did something smart and if you disagree with me just look at what Zuhaha said it all adds up : P
评论来自
133803
What enchant sould i do on this?
评论来自
50851
Sure, it sucks that they nerfed the damage, but at least the stats are the same. And that's the most important part.
评论来自
Bengesko
If you're a Marksman hunter, the damage your axe is going to do is not that big of a deal- it's the stats that matter. Your pet is your melee weapon.
评论来自
129428
This thing looks like a flippin gravity hammer of Halo 3
评论来自
114083
Blizzard gives the easiest class in the game the biggest handicap
I don't know about easiest class, but it most definitely is a handicap (even if not intentionally created by Blizzard)
The fact that there are now too many scrub hunters wearing S1, greens, and this weapon is a much bigger deal than equally geared warriors and rogues wielding their
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=33765
.
Kind of a moot point now this late in the game.
评论来自
155711
i have just got this axe and it took me 3 weeks on a rating of bout 1370 which isnt the best rating but still 3 weeks of it and u have the axe
评论来自
156228
Will this keep it's 1000 Arena Points cost after Season 4 release? I'm not seeing a Brutal version.
评论来自
127629
Would it be better to put a 35 agility or Savergy enchant on this? Mainly for PvE, but PvP as well...
评论来自
69591
This item costs 800 arena points in Season 4.
评论来自
168056
I love this axe! i use this on my hunter...I'm surprised they make it so easy to get compared to other classes having to require a lot more arena points for their weapons. I suggest all hunters use this axe, i havent seen any duel wielders out beat the stats on it yet unless their rolling with the top guilds in the server. It even looks awesome. Good job on blizz for that one =)
评论来自
114315
I know its all old hat now, but I by-passed Axe of the Harbinger to keep this beauty on my back. between the stats it comes with, slapping savagery on it, as I am more of a raiding hunter than PvP, which i detest overall, I dont see an improvement anytime soon, maybe when Lich King finally comes out, but have to wait for the Beta and see, i guess. Anyhoo, thats my two cents, well spent, IMO.
评论来自
164576
Not sure this will be an interesting comment but there is no cheap Brutal melee weapon for hunters now... but brutal thrown weapon costs 1k arena points and no rating..
评论来自
goblinego
In WotLK,this will be able to wield by Deathknight too.
评论来自
Tattari
Crappyhunter here is my replay :)
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=36737
the offhand wep for 650 arena points
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=35110
the offhand for 1000 arena points
both are for 1650 which is (cheap)
i know it's not cheaper than the 2hand axe but ... it's MM anyways if you are BM u would go for
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=34997
but it is xpensive (3750 Arena points)
but that is cuz it is not restricted to hunters only
also blizzard found that Most 2k + rated hunters are MM so they made a dualwield wep instead of 2hand
anywayz ... hope you understand meh ....tattari
评论来自
176866
would this be good for a marks hunter with savagery?
评论来自
187464
Savagery in my opinion is not a hunter enchant i would take +35 agility over it in any instance regardless of spec
评论来自
199999
Very cool axe. Even if you are PvE oriented, you should get this axe, with PvE gear it may take 4-5 weeks to get the points, but worths. It has a very nice amount of attack power - most of hunters uses +35 agi on this, i think savagery (+70 AP) is better for PvE and PvP players too. There are some weps which has more AP on the same level, eg.
Trollbane
, but i think this is better because of hut rating and armor penetration, the 0.95% hit is not bad from one item. Many players preffer the 2x1hand weapons, i think 2H isbetter for hunters, you have to have very much hit rating to do big dmg and avoid miss-miss-parry series. Even, compare it with the 2xBrutal gladiator 1h hunter axes. The MH+OH has together 84 AP, this has 98 by itself. Not a big difference, but see that hunters can do much more successful hits with 2H weps, and also the armor penetration is bigger on it. I think, if you can reach 1800 rating, and have 3000 points, you should change it to the 3.60 speed version, the stats are the same, but since if, for exaple a rogue gets too near to you, you are dead if you have more time that what is enough for 1 hit, but that 1 hit does more dmg, especially if yoo use raptor strike or mongoose bite...
评论来自
211544
Death Knight can wear these too!
评论来自
96180
This is now available to Death Knights as well as hunters. The more you know!
评论来自
103539
How hard is it to get 800 arena points? I think this may be worth it for the grind to 80. I wonder if there is a lvl 80 version of the no rating weapon. Hmmm.......
评论来自
383770
guys guys i rly dono the diference betwen this and 3750points axe just the faster one makes less dmg and slower one more dmg but its same pretty much and 1000ap and 3750+1850rating NOT SAME ! maybe hunters whana be "special " to have something that no just any 1 can or dono.. id took 1000ap one xD
评论来自
610171
It was discovered during this thread
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2369923754
that the axe now has Death Knight added(So the DK adjustment by Wowhead is no goof). However it is no longer sold by any vendor.
评论来自
avrillapete
As of 4.3 this item is available for purchase again, mainly for people wanting to transmogrify. It's sold by
at Area 52 in Netherstorm for 1500 honor. He also sells all Season 1-3 arena weapons for honor, and the 1-3 arena Armor sets for honor, which until now were only available through tier 4-6 tokens.
评论来自
twistdshade
I got it for transmog with my dk starter gear.... Looks wicked!
评论来自
Azavari
Classes: Hunter, Death Knight
Huh. Does that just look weird to anyone else? I know the stats are good for both classes, but it's still a strange combination.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Costs 1000 Arena Points from the S3 vendor in Area 52.
评论来自
Thottbot
Huzzah! The 1000 point axe :D
评论来自
Thottbot
Hunters have to spend 4750 points instead of 7500 now to get both their weapons. Before rogues, warriors, mages ect had throwing axe/wand for 1000 points.
Its only fair that hunters have to pay the same amount of points than anyone else
评论来自
Thottbot
i noticed that all of the warriors are saying BOO HOO IT HAS BETTER STATS THAN OUR THROWING WEPS! your REGULAR WEAPON has these stats... our regular weapon has the stats that ur throwing weapon has!
评论来自
Thottbot
I think that all the people that are complaining that we get this weapon for 1k points really need to stop complaining and just get over it.
As someone else mentioned, our bows/guns (I.E. Main weapon) have the same stats on it as the weapons for other classes which also cost 1k honor points... Given that our bows cost so much and DO require a rating, I believe that it equals out... You get your main weapons, which have the same or equal stats to this Axe and we get the Axe, while you get the throwing weapons or wands or whatever you use which has equal stats to our main weapons.
As for the talk of Hunters being Ninja looters... Get. Over. It... No weapon is made for just one class, each can be used by more than one and just because you lose a roll or a Hunter wants it, doesn't give you reason to cry like a child and doesn't make said Hunter a ninja.
As for the talk that we *never* use our melee weapons.... Generally, we don't too much but there are times that we do.. And even when we don't, we still need the stats provided on them, just as you need the stats provided on your totems or librams, etc.
Would you like us to simply stop carrying melee weapons to make all the other classes happy? Sorry, but it's not going to happen.
评论来自
Thottbot
My pet takes 20,000 damage? Really? Since when? Seeing as how I'm a MM Hunter, my pet probably takes two blows or so before it's dead and does very little damage.. So, the 'point' that you've tried to make here is absolutely *!@#$%ed.
Secondly, wands don't require a personal rating either and also cost 1k points... So, what makes this Axe so %^&*! worthy, exactly? I see no point in @#$%^ing and complaining just because we happen to finally have a good melee weapon in the PVP vendors, one that is made for us and has good stats.
Now, go and get your melee weapons, which also have insane stats... And your wand, or throwing weapon or whatever you use, which has stats equal to our main weapons (Bows, Guns, etc.) and get the hell over it.
评论来自
Thottbot
This Weapon is so good when a mage get to close to me =D love it in PvP =')
All PvP Hunter's Should Get That one!
评论来自
Thottbot
HUNTERS:
Vengeful Gladiator's Longbow
3750 points
1850 rating required.
Vengeful Gladiator's Waraxe
1000 points
No rating needed
Total stats on both weapons:
93,2 ranged DPS ; 134,2 melee DPS
62+24 = 86 stamina
15+0= 15 hit rating
46+16= 62 crit rating
33+13= 46 resilience
92+34= 126 Attack power
96+0= 96 armor penetration
WARRIORS:
Vengeful Gladiator's Decapitator
3750 points
1850 rating required.
Vengeful Gladiator's War Edge
1000 points
No rating needed
Total stats on both weapons:
134,2 melee DPS ; 92,9 ranged DPS
62+24 = 86 stamina
15+0= 15 hit rating
46+17= 63 crit rating
33+12= 45 resilience
92+30= 122 Attack power
96+0= 96 armor penetration
in the end its the same stats.. i dont get why people are complaining..
评论来自
Thottbot
ALRIGHT READ THIS ENDS ALL ARGUMENTS_
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ALRIGHT IT IS A FACT THAT IT IS FAIR SINCE HUNTERS RANGED ARE THEIR MAIN WEAPS AND ARE WORTH BUNCH AND THE STATS ARE FINE... IT DOES HAVE HIGH DPS WHICH ISN'T THAT FAIR BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT ANY &*!@#$% WHO MELES EXCEPT FOR WING CLIP IS A NUB SO THERE IS NOTHING REALLY TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.
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_and if your complainging because you think you got critted by this axe if they crit you for 2k with the axe, imagine how bad the ranged would hurt
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-btw glass cannons ftw
评论来自
Thottbot
Everyone is complaining bout the cost of this weapon. But hunters' ranged weapon is their main weapon. And all classes' main weapon has an 1850 rating requirement. I play a PvE holy priest and i never go up and whack things (unless i'm extremely bored in a low level area) and i still have to pay the rating. Plus the rating is there to buy the item, not to constantly use. You can buy it then drop to a 1000 rating and still have any main weapon equipped. Simple as that. So quit QQing and go PvP.
评论来自
Thottbot
Hmm..
I have a Hunter my self and this Axe is very nice, but you *!@#$%s that have bin saying Hunters can Analrape people with this, thats bull@#$%.
Finally hunters get a nice Stat wepon to boost stats, i dont remeber seeing a good Hunter wepon.
And its stupid to whine about this axe, i mean hunter aren't that OP... are they?. And yeah totally agree with the Kite thing, usally when i get aggro from a mob i run up against him and hit him once with Raptor Strike and wingclip him.
And there is a Thing called GROWL remeber to Turn it on it rly help with the Pet aggro thing.
评论来自
Thottbot
<3 this with Rapor Strike
评论来自
Thottbot
these posts make me laugh pretty hard! the fact that this is getting nerfed sucks! due to warriors rogues and mages getting a hunter close in pvp! u have 1 trinket to be free every 2 minutes. so if they slow ya or freeze ya your done unless u have melee!
and for anyone who says a hunter cant melee is a %^&*ing idiot! period!
im a hutner 2/43/16 and anyone knows if u pop deterence and monkey aspect uses snakes has pet on attack! uses wing clip scatter shot mongoose and raptor. will know all these people dont know how to play a class as versatile as a hunter. pre bc and during theres only a few rogues i cannot melee, warriors only the squishy ones because when u dodge ure getting anal raped. but if ure a good melee person u stay behind ure target and they cant hit you. so i dont wanna hear this bull%^&*. i love my 1800-2k raptor strikes. sure u dont like the 4.5k aimshots and 3.25k multishots either!
but be a hunter. or something else like a lock that hides and dots people. now thats a class that should just be removed cuz theres no skill to play a lock unless u run around naked!
ima go shadowmeld and aimshot some lowbies!
评论来自
Thottbot
kill and let kill i always say. bg's are about teamwork so if u die individually it means relatively nothing. sure u lose all those buffs, but maybe you distracted the hunters long enough so that 5 or 6 of your team-mates could get your back. BGs are no place for Rambo
评论来自
Thottbot
The only thing i can point out here is that none of the other classes can land a crit for over 1100-1200~ with their secondary weapon. Still, Hunters deserve this one.
评论来自
Thottbot
I put savagery on mine, but if you want the extra +crit chance then go for the +35 agi.
评论来自
Thottbot
how long would it take to get 1000 arena points
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