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评论来自
esoterikpunk
One of the two new Gladiator weapons added in patch 2.1, the other being a +16 resilience/+348 healing hammer with the same stats
This item costs 3,150 Arena points.
评论来自
797
Nice to see they added some elemental shaman options. I hate using daggers, don't feel very shamany...
评论来自
cyborg99
Alright, let's go about my post another way, since a lot of people seem to be confused by it.
My original post:
"Why does this Mace have to be a 1.6 speed? It's saying "**** you"(edited in case that was the reason it's down voted) to the Spell Damage Paladins because with a fast mace you get...
1) Very low Seal of Righteousness damage.
2) Very very VERY low Seal of Vengeance proc rates.
3) Even more laughable white damage(not a factor, but still).
Very disappointing for Blizzard, especially since PvP weapons tend to be slower."
My complaints with this item are not because of the DPS of the weapon, but the actual speed, and I listed the reasons why, because other than Holy Shock, Consecration, and the damage Judgements, how is a Paladin going to deal his Holy Damage that he spec'd this way for? His melee Seals.
1) 1.6 speed = a very low SoR damage, and a very low +damage benefit from gear. It adds up to the same overall, but it's just not as impressive to see lots of little numbers with SoR when you could be seeing higher hitting numbers. Plus the whole burst damage/PvP thing.
2) 1.6 speed = a low proc rate on Seal of Vengeance. 53.3333333...%, to be exact(forumla = PPM x 100 / (60 / *weapon speed*), 20x100 / (60/1.6))
53% may not be too bad, but when I used a Vibro Sword(1.4 speed, 46.6666...% proc rate,
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=31448
), Holy Vengeance was either not stacking at all or it was stacking for 1 or 2 charges, then fall off completely. Hopefully, I'm wrong here.
3) 3 really isn't an issue, but bleh.
I hope this explains my post better
EDIT: I just realized after writing this, Horde Paladins truly get left in the dust because their unique Seal, Seal of Blood, is a Ret Paladin's Seal and gets nothing from +damage, so they are left with crappy(with this weapon) SoR. For once, I feel sorry for the Blood Elves.
评论来自
48703
I notice that weapons with +spell damage have around 40 dps. I think it's designed this way so rogues or dw warriors would not use and favor something else.
评论来自
38721
This didn't include the epic boost yet. It is now:
Damage: 22-111 (-1-+3)
Speed: 1.60 (+0)
DPS: 41.4 (+0.7)
Stamina: 28 (+1)
Intellect: 18 (+1)
Resilience Rating: 18 (+1)
Spell Damage: 199 (+12)
That's 78 spell damage more than Continuum Blade for only 2 stamina less. Yes, we'll miss some Spell Hit, but we also get more Int, which ain't bad for tanking at all.
评论来自
56231
This weapon is great for spelldmg paladins, Holy/Retri pala´s who go for dps would like this :), If you have seen "Fury of Light", then you know what I mean :P. I thought before seen that, that paladins can´t do dps with a spec like 40/0/21 (holy/retri) but now I know that they can with the right gear, this mace is rly good for that kind of pala.
评论来自
Roulk
I'm trying to chase this Spell Mace, it's one of the best in the game for an Elemental Shaman.
One of the reasons for the fast attack speed could infact be to favor Shaman, who get a flat 10% of spell damage applied to each hit with Flametounge Weapon applied, regardless of weaponspeed. Thus, a fast weapon deals more flametounge damage... Elemental Shaman rarely melee... but a quick weapon is better just in case...
It's a shame that it doesn't come with any spell crit... but most shaman picking this up are already sitting between 30-40% lightning crit, so the extra damage and stamina on this mace make it a good choice.
Many shaman have Gavel of Unearthed Secrets, this Mace is a step up from the gavel... and then The Mindblade or Tempest sit just above if you're still stacking spell crit.
评论来自
33868
This mace will be available for honour next patch from a separate vendor to the arena one along with all of the other S1 Arena gear.
Easily accessible for the casual pvpers.
评论来自
99346
As of Patch 2.3 this item costs 25,200 Honor and 20 Eye of the Storm Marks.
评论来自
Vaylos
This weapon is actually very good for AOE grinding. According to WoWwiki, seal and judgement of Light/Mana have an unfixed proc rate. That means that about 50% of the strikes you preform will heal or restore mana. With the fast attack speed, you experience a lot of healing and mana restoration which is really nice when AOE grinding and reckoning procs. The spell damage that this weapon carries helps out too, compared to Gavel of Unearthed Secrets and Continuum Blade, you will be doing more damage with concecrate and holy shield. Paired up with the Petrified Lichen Guard, you have a very powerful AOE combo.
评论来自
43387
After season 3 arena set coming out, this mace became virtually free to have as paladin tanking and can/should be considered as starting weapon for any tankadins.
With +40 spelldamage this is really great weapon to start raids and is enouhg to tier 5 gear equalents, which eases gearing up of other raid members.
评论来自
40815
This mace can give paladins a little extra leeway in their itemization for getting to uncrittable (490 defense). 18 resilience translates to 0.46% reduction in critical strike chance, 490 defense on its own gives you 5.60% crit reduction, which is the crit chance of level 73 mobs against players. So you can go as low as 479 defense (5.16% crit reduction) and still be uncrittable with this mace--so you can go for more pure avoidance gems, such as dodge, more stam or more spelldamage, whatever your need with this extra bit of leeway.
By the time you're able to get the next real upgrade from this mace for tankadins (
Amani Punisher
), your defense shouldn't be a matter of concern. Until you kill the eagle boss in ZA though, you'll be best off with the Gladiator's Gavel.
评论来自
ig0tfish
Exact same stats as Gladiator's Spellblade.
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=28297
评论来自
30398
Can anyone tell me which is better for a PvP Shadow Priest ?
This with Gladiator's End Game -
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=28346
Or the Gladiator's War Staff -
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=24557
评论来自
97402
im a 70 shaman. Just got all of my S1 gear. I pvp most of the time. love to gank. I have just one question though. Would you choose this mace or the other glad dagger over
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=28770
? My guild does run kara but i believe im a little under geared and their is many people who want the dagger. Im leaning towards this mace but im not sure, id like to know your opinions. =) thx
评论来自
Zelinei
Wowhead is
incorrect
about this mace being no longer available. I flew out to Netherstorm today (1/1/12) and bought it from Kezzik for 750 Honor, along with Vengeful Gladiator's Mooncloth Hood for my transmog set.
For proof, look at my armory profile feed
clicky
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is now purchasable for 25,200 honor and 20 EotS marks. I'll be picking one up for my Spriest tonight :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
i luv the way this thing looks!
评论来自
Thottbot
just....soo....freaking...hot
评论来自
Thottbot
omg best tankadin weapon yet.
评论来自
Thottbot
Looks like shadow priests beat mages and warlocks when it comes to arena weapons. Anyone else noticed it's much better than
Gladiator's Spellblade
?
评论来自
Thottbot
Who knows...maybe they were giving us priests a little payback since we haven't had gladiator shoulders or hood until 2.1.
评论来自
Thottbot
This is good for pallies, but omg...yea im a shadow priest...i think it's funny that we have like very miniscule yet nevertheless better stats on this than the locks and mages can only get with the dagger.
评论来自
Thottbot
anyone have a pic? or can tell me if this has the same model as another weapon?
评论来自
Thottbot
you are quite wrong about ret pallies, they are viable and they can do very nice dps
the simple answer to what was said earlier is that you should get your int elsewhere. or do you expect them to make 10 different kinds of glad weapons to suit all classes and specs as well?
评论来自
Thottbot
Its funny to me because I have two friends that were orginally holy to be able to get a chance at ret gear. After raiding they both had a nice Holy set and a nice ret set. I've played both the characters and they are both amazing. They whole idea of that ret pallys are bad is really outdated. In the end it always comes down to gear and skill.
评论来自
Thottbot
I cant decide 2h staff or 1h+oh? I m shadow priest pve spected but with improved physic scream and silence for pvp. When u get off hand +51 spell dmg from vendor for badges, one hand mace with 199spell dmg and u put on it +40 spell enchant or soulfrost:
1H Mace+Off hand
(+46 stamina, +18 intellect)
:
199+
40/54
51 =
290/304
spell damage and +18 resilience(0.5%)
Staff
(+48 stamina, +35 int)
:
199+
40/54=
239/253
spell damage and +25 resilience(0.6), spell critical strike rating +36(1.6), spell hit rating +21(1.7)
Since im draenei(Symbol of hope) i realy dont miss +17 intellect same with +spell crit since shadow priests are not class dependable on crits. Finally-spell hit rating. Is it worth -51 spell dmg?
Definitely not, so now i know what i grab:)
评论来自
Thottbot
Got on my elemental shammy. Really nice before the karazhan/ZA ones, unless you are a pvper, with res and nice amount of stam.
评论来自
Thottbot
How many honor points is this now?
评论来自
Thottbot
easily the best and easiest pally tank weapon to get before heroics and raids
even as end game weapons go this is one of the better weapons out there for pally tanks.
only a handful of weapons offer as much or more sta and spell damage as this does.
of the ones i know of (in order of spell damage and overall stats for the most part):
hyjal boss drop
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=30910/
混乱风暴
s3 mace
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=33687/
复仇角斗士的木槌
random trash drop from hyjal
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=34009/
审判之锤
s2 mace
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=32963/
残酷角斗士的木槌
ssc boss drop
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=30095/
海兽之牙
za boss drop
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=33283/
阿曼尼惩戒者
za boss drop
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=33467/
扭曲预言之刃
gruul drop
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=28802/
血喉魔剑
评论来自
Thottbot
This comment has nothing at all to do with the mace BUT
if a holy paladin heals a holy paladin and both of them start spamming holy lights on each other they will never run out of mana :D
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