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评论来自
9574
Looks really good. Stat wise. Can't wait to see some of the graphics that blizzard puts on this bad boy. Only downfall, Level 70 and it has 80dps. Kingsfall is level 60 and has 70+ dps.
评论来自
9590
Looks like a great item especially when jewels are filled in the spots. Definitely a rogue or dps warrior item.
评论来自
18772
Drops off Julianne from the Opera Event in Karazhan.
评论来自
11660
I had always intended to get the tokens for a Searing Sunblade (
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=29275
), but I suppose if I got this first I would take it and spend those tokens on something else. It may not be a 1.3 speed but the stats and the sockets make up for it.
评论来自
PainKiller
Smooth Ornate Dawnstone 10+ critical
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=28119
worth do some bg to add this gem to this weapon
评论来自
Marra
Asheera
Where exactly do you get the 2% crit from?
19crit rating
23agility
Thats not 2% crit.
评论来自
Joebob785
According to Pf's dps spreadsheet (rogue.bleedo.net), a combat dagger rogue loses a good ~12 dps (unbuffed) by using this as an offhand in place of warp splinter's thorn, due to the thorn's 1.3 speed (better for combat potency).
评论来自
30722
You dont need to put the correct gems in there, you could socket in 3 8 crit gems and get almost 1 1/2 crit, or 62 attack power without enchants, its good for pretty much anyone because of the customization you can put into it.
评论来自
18020
It's a shame of this dagger's speed. It seems Blizzard is at times, still either clueless or just plain careless when it comes to rogue itemisation.
At 1.6 with its damage range, it's not going to merit fantastic backstabs or mutilates over 1.8 daggers.
For an off-hand, it's a bit too slow when you take into account Shiv's energy cost and combat potency's proc rate.
As a combat daggers rogue, I'd rather off-hand WST, and wait for a more suitable MH.
Sidegrade at best.
评论来自
morw
I would say this dagger is not primarily intended for rogues to carry since it doesn't really fit _perfect_ into any playstyle. It could go along with any spec but it would not be able to do so to perfection. In my opinion (being a rogue myself) this weapon really isn't limited to rogues, but all classes that can make a good use of it are in no way restricted to roll/need/bid.
评论来自
20736
If no rogues or other melee dpsers in my group want this dagger then i'll pick it up and stick 3 +12stam gems in it to add to my stam tank set.
评论来自
37698
Has anyone tried to put 3 +12 stams into for a stamina dagger? was just an idea I was thinking about for any fights like where I take huge damage
评论来自
38795
two things:
1) Shiv is normalized for damage, however, speed DOES matter because the faster the weapon the cheaper the shiv's energy cost.
20+(speed*10). Therefore a 1.3 weapon is a 33 energy shiv and a 1.6 is a 36 energy shiv.
2) This is a fantastic weapon unless you have combat potency. Shiv is still cheaper than SS, it has .1 less DPS than ER, and it's customizable.
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=24028
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=24048
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=24067
评论来自
39022
IMO it's meant for rogues with a subelty spec <pvp> or any other class such as warriors, hunters, shaman.
评论来自
40693
nice combat
评论来自
Bluestreak
The glow on the hilt doesn't count as a pre-done weapon glow does it? So I can stick mongoose on this thing and it will still turn uber-thick green? =)
评论来自
23740
As a Fury Warrior, I am positively salivating over this weapon. I find myself crossing my fingers every time we get to the Opera event, just for a chance at her. I have enough +crit, so I'd slam 3 Bold Living Rubies (+8 strength per) and a Potency enchant on it. 102 AP from a single weapon? Yes please.
As a matter of fact this weapon is AMAZING for Rogues and Hunters as well, IMO. 3 sockets on a weapon is unbelievably hot.
评论来自
36076
For a mutilate spec would this dagger be better than The Riftmaker?
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=29182
I am thinking so, considering the sockets.
评论来自
34699
This item got buffed this patch.
评论来自
55910
Just got this last week, but I already have legacy so not worth it as hunter but its cool to have i guess. Keeping it in my bank until i come across a 1H witha damage proc then have some fun with this baby....but thats if one ever comes around.
评论来自
48377
Any1 ever think of this as a tank wep? considering the possible 49 stam and nice speed
评论来自
53131
best 1handed hunterweapon ingame tbfh
评论来自
Adanoi
Got it off Julian last sunday and Iv have to say what an upgrade from Zed's carver :) and on a small note by fare one of the coolest looking daggers in BC
评论来自
6298
Hmm, lots of comments from rogues. This one should rock the boat. I'm a shaman, specced for enhance. Normally an enhance shaman wouldn't touch anything faster than 2.5s. But this one has 3 sockets. It's has the largest number of sockets of any off-hand weapon we can wield.
So forget it's DPS, the crit and AP bonuses, but imagine it with 3 +12 spell damage gems and +40 spell damage enchant. 76 spell damage from an off hand :D
I know you can't because you're all rogues looking at this. But for a shaman who has an alternate set of +spell gear for back-up it's a very nice item to have. That's more +spell damage than you can get anywhere else.
I expect the death threats, and lurn2play mail now. *grins*
评论来自
Lamplike
As of last patch (2.2.0) the size of this dagger got smaller for some reason, well atleast on undead.
Still this is anamazing dagger whichever way u slice it is a great OH or if you actually have nothing better at the moment a great main hand.
Also if you ignore the socket bounus and slap in all +12 stamina sockets this could rival kings defender or even sun eater as a tanking weapon, ive seen several tanks using this in guilds doing SSC and TK who never got a kings defender.
评论来自
101841
I think this dagger is great main hand weapon for combat specced rogue. White dmg (which is the main source of dmg for this spec) is the same as Emerald Ripper, but this one can be socketed. And with proper gems it has much better stats than Emerald Ripper. For off-hand it is too slow for combat rogue.
评论来自
bloodr2
a screen shot of a priest with this? whoa that blew my mind, even with the item customization available <('.'<)
评论来自
silkfire
Unrequited means "not returned in kind" for those wondering.
评论来自
Celia
I'm surprised I didn't notice this sooner, but this is the only one handed weapon in the game with three sockets; all other three socket weapons require two hands.
评论来自
141192
I was thinking about my warrior when i use my spell reflect-macro to go into "defensive mode" (often when a mage just frost nova'd and is going to frostbolt me). In such a situation you'd want as much resillience as possible so until now i've always used
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=28184
instead of my
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=28295
because strange enough that blue 1h sword from non-heroic BM has an astonishing 21 resillience while my S1 1h-sword only has 10 resillience.
Now this dagger is the only 1h in game that has 3 sockets in which you could put 3 epic resillience gems
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=32209
of 10 resillience each. This gets it to a whole whopping 30 resillience on just your 1-h alone which imo makes it the best 1h for arena warriors which are busy spell reflecting, trying to survive the nuke of something like a mage + rogue team.
Well now while we're at it already we might as well think about the only ranged weapon in game with 2 sockets, the
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=30724
. If you put 2 10-resillience gems in it you have 20 resillience (while S3 throwing weapon only has 12 resillience).
So... if you have this dagger and that
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=30724
(gun with 2 sockets) equipped instead of
a S3 1h + throwing weapon you'd have 26 more resillience.
It may seem small but all tiny bits count don't they? ;-)
评论来自
Rosebeef11
LOL, i just go to Karazhan like 2 times and it dropped for me :P
Nice Dagger For Rogues I Luv It :D
评论来自
jubs916
Any Fury warriors ever use this? i ask cause i got it and i was just wondering how good it actually fairs giving the right enchants and scoekts i suppose it could work, but meh just a thought
评论来自
branflakes
An interesting side effect of having three sockets means this weapon (when used as a stat stick) will scale incredibly well in Northrend, provided you regem it.
Interestingly enough, if you put caster-type gems in it, it might even make dual-wielding elemental/resto shaman viable.
评论来自
106813
Or socketed with 3x
Runed Dragon's Eye
enchanted with
Enchant Weapon - Mighty Spellpower
and having
Earthliving
on it would give a sexy 309 spellpower just to offhand. Very sexy, just wish this dagger had a higher drop rate.
评论来自
axellemaelstrom
as a level 70 twink, i got this dagger last night, immediately bought the best gems and put one of the best enchants on it. why? because it is the best offhand OVERALL. for starters, rogues can be either mutilate(attacks with two hands, requires both weapons to be dagger) or non-mutilate(attack with main-hand, you want a fast offhand in this case)
this weapon is 1.6, not too fast for mutilate, way better than those 1.3~1.5 ones. and it's okay for just being an offhand, way better than 1.7~2.8 weapons.
and most importantly, it comes with 3 sockets. as you can see here:
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/items=2&filter=sl=21:22:13;cr=100;crs=2;crv=3
this weapon is the only one-hand/mainhand/offhand weapon in game that has 3 sockets.
so let's say if you want to stack stam, you put 3 24-stam gems in this baby, you get, boom, 85 stam.
if you you want to stack AP, 3 32-AP gems, boom, 114 attack power.
similarly, 3 16-haste gems will give 48 haste.
or you can just balance things out and put appropriate gems in those sockets and get tons of stats.
TLDR version: it's the best rogue offhand there is if you get bored of one build quickly and mess around with different builds and specs.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Winterhoof&n=Axelle
评论来自
208086
IT AR IS ELEHANCEMENT SHAMMAN WEAPONER!
评论来自
106006
Thinking that with 3 wotlk +20 agi gems, this is the best lvl 70 twink OFF-HAND dagger , especially for subtlety due to their 30% AGI bonus.
评论来自
Cyno01
For anyone transmogging, this dagger matches the rogue T4 very well, and since its 1H you only need one to drop to have a matching pair.
评论来自
964670
This weapon is the best level 70 rogue trink offhand weapon
the best mainhand weapon being the Crux of Apocalypse
评论来自
MABGamer6407
Most likely a reference to the Blade that Juliet died from. (Romeo killed himself thinking Juliet was dead but she faked her death, then she woke up and seeing him actually dead Stabbed herself an it was not a happily ever after) .
评论来自
Allakhazam
Dropped for me just a few hours ago. And I must say, after throwing some nice Gems in it, it's a beast. Heh, one of the 4 Epics I've gotten from Kara in the past 2 days.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Drops from Maiden of Virtue in Karazhan.
评论来自
Allakhazam
guys
call me blind ...but is that +49 stamina after gems i can see there?
would be a nice boost for my max HP gear as a tank
评论来自
Allakhazam
3 sockets make it awesome for customizing. Could make a really great pvp offhand if you smack 3 12 stam gems in there, or good for raiding with AP/crit/hit gems.
评论来自
Allakhazam
this dagger is a beast, not for the damage or speed, but for the truckload of stats that you get off of it with enchants and jewels.
example:
+15 agil enchant
+4 hit/+4 agil gem
+4 agil/6 sta gem
+8 agil gem
All something that the average rogue would customize this dagger with.
Net total gains (including the dagger's base stats) for a rogue (my math might be off):
16 stamina
4 hit rating
31 agility
54 total attack power
a little over 1% crit
~1.7 % dodge
and some armor (lol)
thats amazing, off one piece. the sockets make this dagger OH worthwhile for ANY rogues really (mutilate rogues want a slower one for more harder mutilate hits, and combat rogues want a faster one for more combat potency procs). I can tell you, I'm Mutilate, and didnt hesitate one second to take this dagger and trick it out. Do yourself a favor if you happen to be lucky enough to land this: find some good gems and make it a worthwhile companion to your mainhand.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Really Nice Stats after Sockets.
http://i13.tinypic.com/2uzcz2f.png
评论来自
Allakhazam
shammy chestpiece
评论来自
Allakhazam
Even with 3 +16 AP gems, it's not as good as my old Guile of Khoraazi, prepatch. For hunters at least. I'll never forgive Blizz for nurfing that dagger and upping stats on every other lvl 70 epic in the game. Grrr!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Drops in Karazhan.
评论来自
Allakhazam
So where would one find this Awesome dagger a quartermaster?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Yet again another fine piece of weaponry. But there are a few items from KARA that arenot "KARA" worthy. Having said that, this is an awesome dag and I am on the hunt.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I tank with a dagger all the time, and I've tanked all the way through Kara. It IS possible. Get ur facts right. :P
评论来自
Allakhazam
True it's 0.2 speed lower then most optimum mutilate daggers, but it has SO MANY STATS. Really with this in your off-hand compared to say emerald ripper, your mutilate damage will be really, really only slightly lower. This thing's great though cause 1) droolworthy stats 2) faster poison applications and 3) shiv gets a little better, if you use it.
If your mutilate, please don't scoff at the 1.6 speed it's nowhere near as bad as you think it is, the damage difference is truly neglible.
评论来自
Thottbot
to drop in karazhan during the beta.
not sure if it still is in the game...
but it is an awesome offhand just imagine the pvp gems in the sockets. even mutilate rogues could not resist
评论来自
Thottbot
With the fact that this is one of the TRULY rare socket able weapons in the game, I'd go as far as to say this is probably the best dagger in the game, for now. Forget about stats, forget about dps, and forget about speed. You can socket this weapon, adding waaaay more stats, plus you can enchant it. This dagger almost makes me want to respec as a dagger rogue. In fact, I would respec for this dagger if I won it in a guild run. Of course it would go to the other dagger rogues first, as I am sword spec, but when it was my turn I would honestly respec for this.
Out of literally hundreds of new weapons there are a total of 13 superior, or epic weapons that have slots. Their links are below
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=60330/土灵腿铠
axe
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=58067/art-template-mail-waist-mail-common-a-02-gold
axe
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=60384/b连战地工具
axe
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=58985/诡异勇气护腿
axe
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=60298/风舞者护手
fist
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=60327/土灵肩甲
gun
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=60151
mace
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=59822
mace
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=60109
mace
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=56637/痛苦德鲁伊的护腿
mace
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=59214/优秀首领护臂
mace
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=60247/火焰之王的手套
staff
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=60282/风暴骑士之帽
dagger
There may be a couple that I missed, but even so this is a pretty small list. Of course the dagger is included in this list, but if I need to link that, you should probably pack up your computer and send it back to where you bought it from
评论来自
Thottbot
... is even worth being considered by mutilate rogues which normally prefer slower weapons for the higher min/max damage.
in fact this dagger with a +8 agi +8 critratin and 4agi+6stamina gem is far superior any blue mainhand you could find because of the resulting crit value.
+15 agi enchant and you might wear it even in black temple still ...
评论来自
Thottbot
True it's 0.2 speed lower then most optimum mutilate daggers, but it has SO MANY STATS. Really with this in your off-hand compared to say emerald ripper, your mutilate damage will be really, really only slightly lower. This thing's great though cause 1) droolworthy stats 2) faster poison applications and 3) shiv gets a little better, if you use it.
If your mutilate, please don't scoff at the 1.6 speed it's nowhere near as bad as you think it is, the damage difference is truly neglible.
评论来自
Thottbot
I was just about to type what Lothy just said
3 sockets = 36 stamina
looking around for tanking weapons this one might just outdo everything else i've seen so far :D nothing else matches the stamina possibility from gems
i have Crest of the Sha'tar with 2 +12 stam gems and 18 stam from enchant. Which means 60 stamina on my shield alone!
评论来自
Thottbot
nice referance to the play but i think Julian should drop the dagger
"O happy dagger let my body be your sheath.."
评论来自
Thottbot
ok nvm it is droped by julian
shows how much i pay attention.
评论来自
Thottbot
You may not believe it, but, since our rogue had already got this dagger, and it would be sharded, I asked if I could use it and the Blade instantly popped into my bags ^^. I'm a tank, and this is a GREAT upgrade from the Grom Tor's Charge: fully socketed and enchanted, it's a beast (+4 stre, +6 stam; +4 def, +6 stam; +12 stam). The drawback is that the King's Defender, my dream, have dropped for all the other tanks in my guild but me, and it's already the seventh week I've spent hoping and waiting for it to drop (I already have the mats for the Mongoose, if only it would ever drop...)
评论来自
Thottbot
13/41/07 dagger rogue, dropped last night and i freaked,,,, but lucky for me a fury/proc dps cough cough warrior was there to outroll me... oh well. Is this wep better for fury wars than rogues?
评论来自
Thottbot
I can see why a hunter would want this... Gemmed properly you can get 50 attack power, and 17 crit rating, plus a good amount of stamina...
Of course, rolling on this over a rogue or warrior is just mean, wait until they have it before you decide you need a new BUFF item.
评论来自
Thottbot
woot for juliane! where in her dress was she hiding this bad boy?...Maybe shes got the extra gems in her back pockets? lol
评论来自
Thottbot
would it be fine for a fury warrior this at off-hand and fool's bane at main?
评论来自
Thottbot
Yes this is a fine blade in OH if you don't have EmeraldRip or Malch yet. Mutilate uses the damage range 112-168 not the DPS. So while it is true that between two weapons in the same level range slower weapons have higher damage range than faster weapons, but this is a 70 purple drop so it happens to have more bang for the buck at 1.60 speed :)
Get it, use it, love it. -ps it's socketed ;)
评论来自
Thottbot
How about this in the MH and the S2 arena shiv in OH?
评论来自
Thottbot
Emerald Ripper MH and this OH = Uber-sexy.
评论来自
Thottbot
Lucky happy hunter got this babe and malchazeen one in 1 day since we had no rogues for any of the fights and rst just passed,sockets are awsome since i put AP some Crit and whateva i like in it,slap +20 agil on both weps and FK the spear from SL!
评论来自
Thottbot
This blade is superior, yes
This blade is a top choice, yes
BUT
I still love
Boundless Agony
WAY more
I know jewel slots are very enticing, I even started Mainhanding this with my
Boundless Agony
in OH, but I'd never leave an Agony behind, jewel slots or not.
I'm weird like that
评论来自
Thottbot
imm a fury wrriro getting keyed for kara just hoping this drops for a sick OH
评论来自
Thottbot
probably to do with the whirlwind buff in the last patch, whirlwind now does offhand damage aswell as mainhand, so slower off-hand weapons are far more viable.
评论来自
Thottbot
probably to do with the whirlwind buff in the last patch, whirlwind now does offhand damage aswell as mainhand, so slower off-hand weapons are far more viable.
评论来自
Thottbot
Same skin as the Merciless Shanker, Shiv and the Searing Sunblade. Man would that be a nice combo: MH this blade and OH Searing Sunblade. Since the drop is so rare I am going to settle for the Shanker and the Sunblade and not be at the mercy of the drop rate and/or rolling on it.
_______________________________
Update, even if you don't care:
This dropped for me last night and NO ONE even thought about rolling. They all know it's better for the guild in my (Rogue) hands. Thank you Sentience (Drenden) for knowing the game. Once I get mongoose on it I respec to daggers and pair it with my Sunblade in OH.
- I Shiv you.
评论来自
Thottbot
Got this on my oh, and the riftmaker in my mh. Awesome blade. presently have mongoose on rift, and 20 agil on the blade. thinkin of changin mon to the blade and execut to my rift, would kinda like some input on this. Dont really want to waste the gold and time farmin mats if not worth it.
评论来自
Thottbot
got lucky on my first run through kara, got romulo and julianne event n dagger dropped. i know ppl hate me ;D
评论来自
Thottbot
Ever though about giving this weapon to tanks?
If you are a tank and unlucky with the droprate of tanking weapons, then go need on this weapon and put some +def rating / +sta gem in it. Might sound silly, but at least they give some tanking stats then ...
评论来自
Thottbot
ROGUES - BTW, socket this right and you could be looking at a 93.9DPS (58AP), +8 hit, 19 stam, 9 crit weapon. If you are at or near hit cap and/or don't need/want that hit gem then you could have 94.35DPS (66AP), 19 stam, 14 crit weapon. Both scenarios benefit from the +8 socket bonus.
评论来自
Thottbot
eh, stack 3 +4def +6stam gems, and this dagger is superior to the king's defender aside from the armor.
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