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评论来自
3668
As the links follow, Recipe is dropped by Moam in AQ20.
These are perfect for hunter or Shaman. For alliance when these are combined with Judgement of Wisdom and Blessing of Wisdom it's almost impossible to go oom (assuming you have about 150-200 spirit as a hunter (zomg loads) or about 100 if you're using mana oils/have mp/5s on equip).
评论来自
kadaan
Since it doesn't say "Chance on hit," I'm assuming it's a 100% chance to gain the 8 mana on melee/ranged hit? In the expansion a shaman dual-wielding fast weapons could regen mana like crazy!
评论来自
6046
From what I've read, the proc on this breaks CC effects, such as Wyvern Sting and Scatter. Hopefully it will get fixed soon.
评论来自
7293
I was lucky enough to have my guild offer mats for this to my Enhancement Shaman. Extremely interesting to use with Shamanistic rage, and while dual-wielding fast weapons (1.5 and 1.8 at the moment).
Since my shaman is melee support on raids, I'll have to outaggro rogues to get beaten up. And if I do, Grace of Earh trinket and Tranquil Air totem are there to save the day (assuming I'm not one-shotted)
评论来自
Nines
Great item for grinding and mana conservation in long fights - used to use them on my hunter vs Patchwerk (in particular) myself.
The mana drain effect also causes additional threat over the damage of the weapon. So you may want to watch your aggro gen when you first use these.
Grasps + Hurricane in a fight = very quick regen (and mana drain when appropriate). The target doesn't have to have mana for you to actually receive mana from the gloves.
评论来自
Necroticon
One of those items I wish Blizzard would scale up to a level 70 and bc mats version. A very cool mechanic, overall, and very useful.
评论来自
137757
please feel free to give me your input on the matter
评论来自
108779
Trying my damndest on Sporregar EU to get a pair of these. Post BC realm so the AQ etc recipes are like gold dust. :(
评论来自
Nyito
Potentially has a use for the General Vezax fight. Dubious if the mana regen would make enough of a dent to be worth the loss in stats, hence why I say potentially. Would need some testing.
评论来自
Darkren
If I'm not mistaken, the "draining" mechanic refers to removing from the target and giving to the caster. So, technically, this should give a guaranteed 8 mana, and up to an EXTRA 8 mana when it hits a caster. Can anyone confirm?
EDIT: Downrating me for theory, or what? Let me elaborate:
Equip: On successful melee or ranged attack
gain 8 mana
and
if possible
drain
8 mana
from the target.
Equip: ... gain 8 mana and drain 8 mana.
If you're going to downrate a valid question, you should provide an answer or some sort of insight.
评论来自
223389
Resource needs to change to Focus for the Cataclysm hunter update.
评论来自
Baneleaf
I just got this pattern on Bleeding Hollow US. It is actually intriguing in that I was going to make a twink shaman because I was bored, now I have these to play with. I will learn them on my DK but if you are on my server and need a pair send an in game to Baneleaf.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Unless you have a buttload of stamina stacked elsewhere, these are awful for PvP. Even then you'd probably kill your target before the proc made a noticeable difference.
Just as most crafted epics, in the battle of mats cost vs. usefulness, these lose horribly.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Are an incredible piece of kit.
Each strike you deal adds 8 mana, drop a rapid fire as a hunter and laugh as your mana regens, not at the fastest pace, but it is better than nothing.
A crit, and some AP in there make these very nice for those Marksman Specced Support hunters, increasing the over all white damage they do.
Shamans as well take advantage of the melee mana regen, good for Enhancement shamans far and wide.
Now, if they only had some stamina...
评论来自
Allakhazam
I was bored in a standby raid the other day so i wiped this math up
im ignoring miss/dodge/parry AND flurry. I am assuming they will basically even out. correct any of my math if you want but basically this is what i came up with excluding those 4 things
Basically every hit gives you 8 mana. Im going to pretend dodge miss parry does not exist atm k, k.
2.6 speed mh and 1.7 speed oh is what ill do the math with
Main Hand 8(5.0/2.6) = 15.4 mp5
Off Hand 8(5.0/1.7) = 22.5mp5
37.9 mp5 total
And that is w/o windfury and w/o stormstrike. Stormstrike is on a 10 second cooldown so add a flat 4 mp5.
So with stormstrike
41.9 mp5
To calculate windfury mp5 we're going to basically say 20% chance to add 2 hits. So 20% of your hits add an additional 16 mana. (im going to ignore offhanding windfury because im going to assume they will fix it in some form or another)
So for every 100 swings mathmatically windfury will add 40 additional hits. So we will say that windfury adds 40% more attacks.
Stormstrike can also proc windfury. With a 2.6 speed weapon it takes 260 seconds to get 100 attacks. That is 26 stormstrikes. 26 stormstrikes provides aprx 10.4 extra attacks. 40% extra attacks once again.
Actual math without miss/parry/dodge OR flurry
5 seconds to represent mp5
2.6 to represent attack speed
1.4 to represent the additional attacks windfury adds
4 mp5 from stormstrike
1.4 again to represent the amount of attacks stormstrike provides
Main Hand 8 + 1.4(4) = 27.1 mp5
Off Hand 8(5.0/1.7) = 22.5mp5
27.1 + 22.5 = 49.6 mp5 FROM 1 PAIR OF GLOVES
评论来自
Allakhazam
well, apart the 1% crit its jsut crap.
I mean 8 mana...thats nothing, so its worthless for gaining/draining.... and than u have just 1% and 28 AP left....
I would every day take the hakkar gloves over this!
评论来自
Allakhazam
What would be a good price to charge for crafting these, if mats are supplied?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Garona Horde I can make these(no commission charge, just bring mats for combine).
pst Kodorunner if you have mats or have any questions about it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
THIS IS A HUNTER WEPON!
LOL
y not?
评论来自
Allakhazam
does it stack with windfury? for like 24 mana drained?
评论来自
Allakhazam
enhancement shaman with flurry and alot of crit + these = nice
评论来自
Allakhazam
These are just... wow!
Eskhandar with the procc as well, flurry, windfury, 30%crit... Shamans can now be a warlock/priest \o/
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just made a pair on my hunter(instantly got 15 agi on them), and TBH i didnt think they would be THAT good, but in MC 2day i loved them. That xtra 8 mana every time u shoot is purely amazing, i got a blastershot launcher (2.6 speed), so its like adding 16 mana regen every 5 seconds, and thats not counting multi shots/aimedshots. Yes it does proc off every multi shot arrow, its really nice, too bad it doesnt proc off volley lol.Assuming that how they figure rapid fire and quick shots is 2.6- 2.6*.3, then 1.82-1.82*.4 is 1.09, then my mana regen hits almost ! Correct me if im wrong on that math, but IMO its worth having these on during boss fights, and long trash pulls, they get me more rap than my blood guards chain gauntlets, so i wear em all the time when raiding. Get yourself a god damn pair FFS!
Can also make these on Haltarrant(Warrior) on the server Ursin, use em on Keltarrant(Hunter)
Edited, Oct 7th 2006 at 7:21pm PDT by snwbrdnpsycho
评论来自
Allakhazam
"...I walk in the valley of the shadow of death..."
评论来自
Allakhazam
The mats don't seem too hard to get, Although as a shamen i would choose Seafury Gaunts, they have better stats, and 7 mana regen anyway (okay so thats every 5 secs) but most ench shamens DON'T have fast weapons, they have slow 2H.
For a Hunter however, i could see how this would be good.
评论来自
Allakhazam
plans dropt by Moam aq20
评论来自
Allakhazam
Tho, no stats at all.
I got them today, and loved them from the beginning. Finally some gloves for alternative builds. And 8 mana is alot, if you are wielding a really fast weapon together with instant attacks. Hunter hint hint.
I agree that these are pretty useless in raids or group pvp situations. Thats open PvP/duel/farmgear :)
Edited, Sat Apr 8 12:46:05 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Think about, you're hittin' every 2.9secs with a Rhok'delar as a hunt. That are round 13/5 Mana. Just with Autoshot, then all the aimeds any maybe every single hit of a multi shot.
Then you got some serious manareg, maybe if you have enough gold to spend and you dunno what to do with it, why not try it out?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Crafting these for free at EU-sunstrider.. alliance side /w Arieswarrior
Also craft:
All NR gear avilable.
All Dark iron set.
Hide of the wild.
All Naxx items.
Lava belt.
Corehound boots.
Corehound belt.
and MANY more
All free if u supply mats :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
From a paladin to you hunters.
Judgement of Wisdom.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I just bought these for 250g, and slapped a +15 agility enchant on em after that. I couldnt be more satisfied with this purchase. Facts are that you gain 8 mana if you use: Auto shot, multi shot (8 for each target hit), arcane shot, aimed shot, concussive shot, scatter shot, distracting shot, tranquilizing shot, normal melee hit, wing clip, mongoose bite, counterattack or raptor strike. Basically, every shot or hit, not stings. Thats a wadda mana!
For long monotonous fights where a *!@#$%^ would usually run out of mana, and then go feigning death and drinking, these are worth so much! Cause you really lose a lotta damage in those +/- 10 secs of sitting down doing nothing. With this item, the combat text just spams +8 mana non-stop.
http://ctprofiles.net/4643627
Edited, Nov 28th 2006 4:39am by Pantrassar
评论来自
Allakhazam
Do these work on instant shots and stings, or just Auto Shot, Multi Shot, and Aimed Shot?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Calculation for Shaman with DW will be like this
since WF _does_ work on offhand.
Main Hand 8*((5/2,6)*1,4)+(1,4*4) = 27 mp5
Off Hand 8*((5/1,7)*1,4)+(1,4*4) = 39 mp5
= 66 mp5 or 788 mana/min
评论来自
Allakhazam
They are not that good. Would like em on my shammy tho. Nice for pvp.. I guess... though there is 0 stats..
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got these a coupple of weeks ago on Magtheridon :)
Pm:
Fatcaesar @ Magtheriudon, Ally and i will craft them for a small amount of gold
评论来自
Lomkail
Can Warriors use these to drain Mana from Moam for Example?
评论来自
Caperfin
In Classic WoW, Black Grasp of the Destroyer doesn't trigger a "Phantom Strike" when its (Equip: On successful melee or ranged attack...) effect triggers.
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