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84840
I dont understand... I always here people wanting Assassin's Blade and i barley ever see a twink rouge using this dagger. I mean, this dagger only has a .4 DPS difference to the Assassin's Blade. And only a bit less damage and this dagger is even faster than the Assassin's Blade!
and they both give +4 agil. but scouts blade give +2 stam. instead of +3 str. And Scouts Blade is way easier to get for sure! so in my opinion, if u can get the assassin's blade in a drop, Great! But dont spend forever looking for it and especially dont give up all your gold to get it on AH when u could spend that gold on +15 agil. Enchants!
评论来自
JustMax
So I'm sitting here thinking about weapons to twink my Rogue out with and I came out with this composition.
Assassin's Blade = 1.90 Speed, 4 agility, 3 strength 15.5 dps
Shadowfang = 2.70 Speed, 17.8 dps, COH: 30 shadow damage
Cruel Barb = 2.80 Speed, 15.5 dps, 12 AP
Wingblade = 2.20 Speed, 5 agility, 2 stamina, 15.7 dps
Scout's Blade/Sentinel's Blade (Warsong Gulch pvp daggers) = 1.70 Speed, 4 agility, 2 stamina, 15.3 dps
After putting together this information here is what I came up with.
Assasin's Blade/Wingblade is by far the best combo due to the stats and the median of the dps. If you were to throw 15 agility on both of these (Which 90% of real twink rogues do) that would give you about 39 Attack power, plus a decent amount of dodge. On a side note, this combo would provide the most dps (With enchants of course) meaning with 200+ attack power that a good amount of twink rogues have with this combo the odds of you one shotting a cloth wearer with a crit ambush is more often then not by far.
But for those that aren't intrested in paying out the ass for there rogue then Cruel barb/pvp Dagger is also a phenomenal choice. You also get +crit, +dodge, and +ap with this set, and you dont have to clear out your life savings just to stab someone this is obviously the best choice. It will take you a maximum of a 6 hours to farm the honor, and if you have a high level running you through dead mines you will most likely knock out both in the same day.
In all honesty, I would sugest to everyone reading this to rule out shadowfang. The dps is higher then any one handed weapon you will get in the 10-19 bracket. And yes you can always get the enchant on it blah blah but its less effort then its worth. The chance on hit is something that I personally think blizzard just rolled a dice and flipped a coin and thats what it came out with. The main reasons for not wanting Shadowfang is: 1. the speed is to slow for my taste. 2. the chance on hit makes me gag. 3. It's a sword. A rogue will lose out on the backstab/ambush abilitys if they group this with another sword.
My personal oppinion on this matter is, if you have the money, go for victory. I personally have 2 level 70's, stocked with a decent amount of gold on both. Considering I love daggers with all of my soul I'm going to spend my time camping the auction house for the Assassin's blade and farming honor for the Scouts Blade.
This is just my outlook on this never ending subject, and I hope it has helped someone.
评论来自
Direbruin
Wingblade is now a one-hand item and *can* be equipped in the off-hand slot.
评论来自
Nisu
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/compare
Asassins blade vs Scouts blade =)=)
评论来自
708327
The BiS daggers for 19 twink rogues is now Scout's Blade and Tail Spike because now Assassin's Blade was removed due to the Cata version of Shadowfang keep.
评论来自
Thottbot
As of one of the more recent patches, The dagger formula replaced the AP*WpnSpd/14 portion with AP*1.7/14, meaning all daggers perform as if they were at 1.70spd for purposes of the ambush/BS calculations.
Meaning this in example:
Barman Shanker vs Hypothetical dagger
51-95 2.00spd 51-95 1.50spd
both will hit with the same force for us Backstab/Ambush rogues due to the normalization, but the Hypothetical dagger will help you out more in the long run due to straight dps.
So now you BS/Amb rogues will want to pick the dagger with both the highest damage and fastest speeds for both hands, placing the dagger that has the highest damage of the 2 in your main hand.
Happy Stabbing
Shank
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok, So basically it takes 21000 rep points to get to the point wher you can buy the dagger. If you win, you get 50. IF you do the math 50 times 21 is what, 420?....anyway, thats 420 WSG matches you have to WIN....if you lose it takes even longer. Good luck
评论来自
Thottbot
Its name is Sentinel's blade on Ally side, same stats as scout's blade, just different name
=)
评论来自
Thottbot
Because of the lack of good daggers at my current level (53) I've decided to start grinding WSG in order to get this. SO nice.
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok, I understand there is a new honor system. But does that mean we still have to get reveard? And also, do you have to pay for this with money? Or just honor and marks?
评论来自
Thottbot
only need marks and tokens no gold to buy this dagger, and you do not need any rep just tokens and marks of honor, as for the other post above , BG rewards cannot be D/e'ed or sold to vender anymore :(.
评论来自
Thottbot
Haha, I critted 910 @ lvl 29! xD
Btw. I think its good that we cant sell BG items, because if it was so we could slowly earn money on BG, which I think we shouldnt be able to.
评论来自
Thottbot
basically, this dagger pretty much best for your lvl, just pvp for a few hours and there, ya got it, dont bother paying lots of gold for slightly better daggers unless ur twinking
评论来自
Thottbot
What u think is best for a sub rouge, this or a widowmaker. (or how it is spelled)
评论来自
Thottbot
ok, so i am a relitivly poor 70 (as in i have like 20g to make a "twink") how much dammage does this do with ambush/backstab in 17-19 agi greens?
评论来自
Thottbot
Is this dagger only for horde!
评论来自
Thottbot
I am wondering, I understand that for a rogue, a slow mainhand is preferred, but if we were looking at a offhand, would the scout's blade be better then the legionare's sword which is 1.0 slower but the same dps?
评论来自
Thottbot
In response to anyone asking if this is a horde-only blade, it would seem so. However, there is an alliance version called
Sentinel's Blade
available.
评论来自
Thottbot
Umm, can u wear 2 unique weapon, but not the same? I mean 2 weapons and both are unique, but not same weapon. Can i use both? // rogue, Goonigoogo.
评论来自
Thottbot
i'm making a undead rogue, would this be a good blade for a 19 twink? Or should i just be a cash crop w/ mining and skinning?
plz tell me the spec, i think assasination would be good for my new character. and if anybody has a guild for me to be invited into, barranak-venture co realm
评论来自
Thottbot
Hey I don't think I'll be getting Shadowblade or Gutripper any time soon so would this be a good off-hand weapon for me if I have Searing Needle in main hand? I'm a subtlety rogue so I like doing as much damage as posible with ambush.
评论来自
Thottbot
Okay this might seem a bit off topic but I REALLY REALLY gotta ask. Call me a noob or whatever:
Is there a MELEE RANGE difference between using a sword and using a dagger?
Coz today in wsg I was RIGHT BEHIND this guy spamming backstab like crazy and my char says "too far away". Enemy gnome rogue (twink of course, no question) hits me from a WAY more distance than that with a sword and I die in 2 hits. I'm sure its a sword and not some bow or something coz the damage was in red, not purple.
Thanks! And I respect non-twinks, even alliance, though I have to kill them. :P
评论来自
Thottbot
IDK if i should go for the sword or the dagger. i have no daggers equiped but the sword is good for main hand. wut should i chose?
评论来自
Thottbot
is the scouts blade the same as the one for alliance?
评论来自
Thottbot
Any new patch change it so this is Duel wieldable? I made the mistake last time of getting 2 of these only to find you cant wield both at the same time. Goes the same for the leggonnaires sword.
评论来自
Allakhazam
it depends on how much u do wsg, my rogue has been lvl 19 for like 3 and a half weeks and is almost revered
评论来自
Allakhazam
I guess u can beeing it does say Unique and not Unique-Equip! (but then u must have 1 Equipped at all time)
评论来自
Allakhazam
this is pretty sweet twink dagger if you can't get your hands on an assassin's blade
评论来自
Allakhazam
Can you get and use 2 of these once your past 20 as a hunter, rogue or warrior?
评论来自
Allakhazam
now this only requires a few honor, thank bliz
:D
评论来自
Allakhazam
:P i got Legionaires sword with only being honored,
are you sure you have to be revered on dath remar the oceanic server to get it
评论来自
Allakhazam
Were do you get this dagger ?
is it a drop or does a black smith make it ?
Edited, Sun Oct 23 04:01:24 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Its a reward when u have a certain reputation with one of the BG's (think its WsG and requires Honored to purchase it) would be cool if my lvl 19 rogue gets it ^^
评论来自
Allakhazam
ARG,i m do getting honored with warsong outriders or however they're called!
评论来自
Allakhazam
:P i got Legionaires sword with only being honored,
are you sure you have to be revered on dath remar the oceanic server to get it
评论来自
Allakhazam
this is pretty sweet dagger for a twink if you can't get your hands on an assassin's blade. I usually get about 5 bars of rep a day of pvp im almost honored! w00t
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