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评论来自
7782
This tunic is great for anyone looking to Make a level 29 twink Rogue, Hunter or Feral Druid.
To get this piece:
1.) Complete "The Defias Brotherhood" Quests (There are two parts to this Quest).
a.) Escorting The Defias Traitor to discover where VanCleef is hiding.
b.) Killing Edwin VanCleef and returning his 'Head' to the Questgiver.
Both of these quests can be completed with a 5-Man group levels 20 and up.
评论来自
7786
I will have to make one correction to the previous post: This chest-piece is great for making a level 19 twink (as opposed to level 29 twink). The agility is ideal for either rogues or hunters but is nice for druids too.
评论来自
31442
I'm at level 36 (I'm a hunter) and I still haven't found anything better yet.
Hopefully I'll get something better from Scarlet Monestary - I skipped Gnomer all together because it just is not a fun place to go at all. I'm sure there's some random drops out there that are better or rare items but overall it's a really nice piece for the level you get it at.
评论来自
SSJGogita
this is a great item and you can get it at 19 or below since you can get in at lv 10 but it's not wise to go in before lv 17 unless you have a lv 70 running you through
评论来自
66363
get 100 hp on these and its the best 19 twink chest u can get IMO, although color looks like crap, have a tabard on hand :D
评论来自
loozerr
In fact all twinks should choose this chest.
Yes, the other reward of this quest is chain pants, but warriors and paladins should still take this one.
The chain pants are BoP, what means that you cannot mail them to your main and put armorkit to them. You can still enchant +100HP to this chest. :)
Yes, you lose some armor, but stats are great aswell.
评论来自
Shockna
No, I'd think that the Strength on the Pants alone would make it worth it more for Warriors/Paladins than a +100HP Enchant.
Also, Agility, in comparison to Strength, is nigh useless for Paladins and Warriors. Sure, it might give them a little bit more Crit Rating, but the added Attack Power and Armor on the Pants makes them a better choice for 19 twinks.
评论来自
80263
ummm you have tobe atleast 14 to begin the chain so it does kind of have a lvl requirement of 14....
评论来自
Sharwenn
What should i choose Tunic of Westfall or The Defias Armor???
Help me out
评论来自
111622
For any leather wearer, this will last you until about level 35. Unless of course you find a BoE blue on the way, or get the Stranglethorn Vale quests done early.
评论来自
Sterio
Very nice think chest (it's more your choice if you would like the defias chest)
评论来自
117316
It´s a very nice chestpiese, but what is the best leather chast piece for a lvl 19 rougue on the HORDE side?
It´s not possible for the horde to quest in westfall and I cant find anything els as good. Anyone have a suggestion?
评论来自
106545
As a Druid, I got this piece at around level 16 (had a guildie run me through VC for the Qs) and I am just now replacing it at level 39 with
Brogg's Battle Harness
from a Mudsprocket q in Dustwallow. If you are leveling a Feral Druid, get this as early as possible and throw an enchant on it. Youll be using it for some time...
评论来自
163289
this is
THE
best chest for most lvl 19 twink rogues, yes some do decide to get Defias armor for the health but most of the time rogues need dodge more than stamina. get +4stats enchant on this and thats 15 agility, 9stam, 4 str and 4 spirit is always usefull. so this is far better than the 15stam, 7 agility, 8str and 4 spirit you would get from defias armor (with +4stats which in my oppinion is way better htan 100health).
评论来自
202484
Using still at lvl 43 ;) rogue , now im goign change to
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=11193
Excelent chest
评论来自
242816
Umm i kinda need help here.
I'm a soon-to-be Rogue Twink and i was just wondering where i can start this quest or what gives me this quest?
Please help me! I'd really appreciate it
Also i would like to know if the Blackened defias armor is better with +4 Str +3 Agi and +11 Stam
Thx
评论来自
hemek
They need to create a version for horde - excellent stats
评论来自
Kennit
They need to create a version for horde - excellent stats
Actually, I have to argue against that, as there are a number of Horde-only quests with no Alliance equivalent which reward great twink items :)
Take this for example:
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/quest=6571
Rewards good leather boots for relatively little effort, that are aguably as good as the PvP
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=20188
评论来自
Popslcles
In my opinion, I think
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=10399
is better.
The agi on this goes really well with rogues, but don't forget the Defias Leather set gives a 10 AP bonus with all 5 pieces. It also gives more stam, now more stamina is a key to surviving most battles. Now, strength also gives attack power, and
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=10399
will have alot more strength with +4 stats. So in comparison, I'd rather AP over dodge any days (The faster you kill and more damage you deal the less need you'll have for dodge)
I'd go for the Defias Leather set, the customize with your own choice of shoulders, wrist, head, etc.
Do not forget you can make up agi loss through other eq as mentioned above, and you can still enchant for agi.
评论来自
144342
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=2041
is better than
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=10399
when u wanna dps but
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=10399
is better when you wanna suvrive a bit longer
评论来自
200833
wat is the best enchant to have on the tunic of westfall?
评论来自
200833
for hunters?
评论来自
359172
Actually , The +4 stats is WAY better than 100hp on any chest peice for any twink that wants to Dps in wsg. Level 19 that is on the twinks. Also 100hp is no longer available until lvl 30.
评论来自
237402
I remember getting this way back in '06? Man those were some good times.
Wish I hadn't sold to a vendor. Now that cataclysm comes out. Anyways it's a pretty good 19 pvp chest the alternative is Blackened Defias Armor trading in 8 agility for 4 str and 11 stam.
评论来自
joss002
Its worth while getting this chest piece even if your aiming for the Blackened Defias Armor.
The quest chain is pretty easy with most of it running from 1 place to another talking to npc's and the final quest is the dungeon run its self,kill Edwin,get his head and youve got it,where as your not guaranteed to get the Blackened Defias Armor on your 1st run if your doing it with random players.
评论来自
617850
Hey anyone know how to get this now?:(
Cata brought different quests. Can you still get this? and how?
But yes this is a GREAT chest for its level i got it will all my hunters
评论来自
Dugroka
As stated at the top of the page under the stats etc, this item is no longer available. With the revamping of Westfall in Cataclysm, the quest to get this item (or the chausses/staff) has been removed. Unfortunate, but with the amount of new dungeon quests and whatnot, I guess I can't complain.
评论来自
Thottbot
My rogue got this tunic at lv25 and held on to it well into his 30s because of the agility bonus (coupled with the cape of the brotherhood); it's a great reward for 20-somethings
评论来自
Thottbot
This is a rogue item/ hunter item for people who do wsg and choose to stay at lvl 19
Haruno-Bronzebeard
评论来自
Thottbot
Tunic of Westfall or Blackened Defias Armor chestpieces are better or worse for different builds for twink rogues in particular. In BG's, the most effective stats a twink rogue could possibly have are Stamina and Agility, Strength secondary. It is controvertial which nuild is better in mass stamina vs mass agility, but the best rogues seem to have a great ballance of both. I personally play alliance on Mal'Ganis, and the best twink on the server is right now on the horde side, so obviously wears the Blackened Defias Armor, however, there are formidable matches on the alliance side, most with Tunic of Westfall, it really has to do with self-priority if you are an alliance player that has the choice between the two, Blackened Defias Armor has the advantage of the +4 Strength in the stats as well, which is always good to have for any twink rogue for +attack power, so I personally would prefer using it for a more balanced twink with all three of the major rogue stats. Those of you choosing sides with Tunic of Westfall and blabbing on about "Agility is more important than Stamina" probably if you have your way will have ~50% dodge, but not nearly as much health as those taking Blackened Defias Armor's side. It all has to do with that particular rogue's build.
评论来自
Thottbot
u use to be able to get at 15 but now it is 17=o lol
评论来自
Thottbot
There is a level requirement, but it is not for the chest itself. You must be level 14 to start the quest chain, and you will get to 15 just by doing the parts of the quest leading up to the final part and the experience from running VC.
评论来自
Thottbot
this chestpeice goes on for a LONG time, i see people lvl 40+ still using it, and i dont blame them.
评论来自
Thottbot
ok i have a question
for a shaman twink what is better?
tunic of westfall or defiaschest, i realy dont know now ;)
评论来自
Thottbot
Depends on the shaman.
Is it elemental? : Blackened Defias for the stamina.
Is it enhancement? : Tunic of Westfall for the AP + Crit chance.
Is it resto? : Why bother?
评论来自
Thottbot
does anybody know which is better for twinks(tunic of westfall) or (blackened defias armour)?
评论来自
Thottbot
thanks bro that does help but...... what about hunters? and btw do u want to team up with my friend sometime and do some pvping?, ur awesome
评论来自
Thottbot
I see that everyone is sharing their opinions on whether or not to get this or the Blackened Defias Armor. In my opinion (I do have a 19 rogue twink) for a rogue it is smarter to get the Tunic of Westfall rather than the BDA. I've came to this conclusion after countless hours of playing Battlegrounds having rogues dodging and critting so much. You see, if you have a butt load of stamina but not much agility... sure you can live for a long time, but it's much harder to kill your opponents because of that loss of agility. On the other hand, if you have a butt load of agility your huge dodge percent will more than cover your loss of stamina, and you will be critting every other hit. And since you're a rogue wouldn't it be better to be able to take out multiple opponents one after the other then just living longer?
That's just my two cents, Thnx.
评论来自
Thottbot
How much XP does this quest chain give?. I want to get it for my druid(Flag Runner) and i have got 7 or sop bars from leveling.
评论来自
Thottbot
No you can't have a minimum level 35 enchantment on this, the item level is 24.
评论来自
Thottbot
Any relic or something for twink druids? ;P
评论来自
Thottbot
Can priest wear this?
评论来自
Thottbot
Best gear-14 arena twink warrior
Head:Lucky Fishing Hat
Neck:Malachite Pendant
Shoulder:Durable Chain Shoulders
Cape:Subterranean Cape/Miner's Cape
Chest:Tunic of Westfall
Wrist:Cavedweller Bracers
Hands:Raider's Gauntlet's(of something)
Waist:Outrunner's Cord(of something)
Legs:Raider's Legguards of the Bear(neathercleft/nethercobra)
Feet:Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots
Ring 1:The 1 Ring
Ring 2:Tigerseye Band
Trinket 1:Insignia of the Alliance/Horde
Trinket 2:Arena Grand Master
Main Hand:Cursed Felblade
Off Hand:Raider's Shield(of something)
评论来自
Thottbot
The best 14 twink warrior gloves are gloves of the fang.
评论来自
Thottbot
ok this is the modern twink gear that i have used and that friends have used i am in a twink guild that has 3 allys and most of us twinked the same...please keep in mind if u want to twink and need help contact dorgeshun on the realm elune.
ok twink gear varries:
for a rouge flag carrier:
defias armor(+100hp)
serpents shoulders(no enchant avail)
dark leather pants(nethercleft leg armor)
deviate scale belt(no enchant avail.)
scouting gloves of the monkey(+15agil)
miner's cape(+70armor)
lucky fishing hat(+100hp)
bandit bracers of the monkey(+9stam)
Sentinel's blade(+15agil)
protector's sword(+15agil)
sentinel's medallon(no enchant avail)
nat pagle's extreme anglin' boots(spped of the boar/+12stam)
hand of argus crossfire(scope+7dmg)
now if you wana do sum dps here we go:
Tunic of Westfall(+4stats)
dark leather pants(nethercleft leg armor)
forest leather bracers(+5agil)
feet of the lynx(+5agil)
sentinel's medallion(no enchant avail)
serpant's shoulders(no enchant avail)
gloves of the fang(+15 agil)
deviate scale belt(no enchant avail)
sentry cloak(+3 agil)
thief's blade(+15agil)
sentinel's blade(+15agil)
seal of wrynn(no enchant avail)
protector's band(no enchant avail)
throat piercers(no enchant avail)
For a dps example look at the player: saluk lvl 19 elune twink
for tank example contact grandlove on elune or dorgeshun on elune
for dodge rouges you take the dps gear and add two meadow rings of eluding and +12dodge to cape
i hope you like it peace
评论来自
Thottbot
Is this better than the Defias chest piece?
评论来自
Allakhazam
For an rogue is the Tunic of Westfall mutch better then the Blackend Defias Armor
评论来自
Allakhazam
Its not possible to get this chest at lvl 14 the quest chain lvls you up
评论来自
Allakhazam
Agreed, get a group together and run deadmines--I got this when I was around level 18 and it's still useful. The +11AGI can't be beat.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm still using it at 35, but only because I can't afford the damn Wolffear when it shows up in AH. I wish I could just find that armor.
<shakes fist at rare world drops>
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got this on 3rd VC run with my NE 24 hunter. Now he's 30 and still found nothing better! Total AGI well over 100. Can you say CRIT? :>
评论来自
Allakhazam
I first got this at around level 22. It was perfect for me because I'm a Hunter and the Tunic has a great agility boost. After a few levels, I just bought a Medium Armor Kit to keep it up to speed with the rest of my upgrades.
I'll probably be buying a Heavy Armor Kit very soon since I'm getting close to level 30.
评论来自
Allakhazam
So here is the question: which is truly better, this or the Blackened Defias Tunic?
黑暗迪菲亚护甲
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just got it yesterday after my first complete run of the Dead Mines. I love the +11 Agility!
评论来自
Allakhazam
lol i ran vc with 2 other ppl(ima lvl 18 gnome rogue) haha it was great. but yea its such a nice chest peice
评论来自
Allakhazam
I had this chest at lvl 14, ofcourse with the help of boosters. Immediately got +100 Health to it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got this on my lvl 14 rogue with help and the agility pwns for rogues, very nice armor
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is a good chest.
Quite a good piece to have, you cannot afford to pass this up. You must obtain it at all costs...
Edited, Tue Apr 26 04:46:22 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
This post makes me wanna kill my self... People in there 30's using this NO! there are alot better greens...
评论来自
Allakhazam
didn't know about this little gem :)
I guess i ned to start researching my armor here instead of basing off whats in the AH.
Always miss the BoP's.
评论来自
Allakhazam
if ur planning to be a 10-19 WSG twink rogue or hunter this is a must have piece
u need to start the quest line at around halfway through lvl 16
then you can go on to the next quest line for 'the seal of wrynn' (the only definite pickup 'great' ring a lvl 19 can have)
seal of wrynn:
乌瑞恩的图章
u wanna get these pieces you will most likely need a 60's help, and yes it is rather time consuming :P
评论来自
Allakhazam
If your in Ashenvale, you can get a better chest, although it isnt blue, it is still better. Snapbrook Armor.
溪流护甲
评论来自
Allakhazam
Still using it at lvl 34 for my hunter..lol
评论来自
Allakhazam
Still using this at 38, mainly because the AGI is so awesome and I'm saving up for my mount still.
Yeah, I wouldn't recommend keeping this past 35-36, but it's still a fantastic tunic for rogues :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ive had this tunic for like 10 lvls, im sick of it, please kill me (X_X)
(\__/)
(O.0 )
( > < )
评论来自
Allakhazam
i still have this at 35 but i cant find anything better than this is im SOL
评论来自
Allakhazam
Is that a Night Elf in the pic? It looks more like a goblin
评论来自
PutinDK
Classic, 2019. Still using this on a rogue at 41. I'm dismayed that this is the best I've seen in nearly 20 levels for a chest, though it is clearly a good piece.
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