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评论来自
jackmccrack
I've never seen anyone with this. The world bosses are highly underrated and underraided.
评论来自
4130
The sword with an identity crisis. It's not really itemized in favour of any class, so let your Paladins and Hunters roll on it if they want to.
评论来自
Asher
Decent stats... but as the poster above said, no one really goes for it. And Azuregos is never up for more than 24 hours. EVER. Someone will get him.
评论来自
Semperaude
Just got invited to an Azuregos raid as a lvl 50, by 9 lvl 70s who only wanted me there for Salv.
an easy 23gold and cool sword for a few moments untill something from Hellfire penn looks better.
评论来自
loragheta
azuregos has been solod by a hunter
评论来自
Sentan
Seen some ret pallys and arms warriors with these as soon as they go into Outland, guess they convince some friends to help em kill the old dragon.
Still pretty nice, until Hellreaver.
评论来自
60430
Strength, Agility Stamina and Parry rating? Seems like a Death Knight's dream!
评论来自
170332
As said before, this is a extremely good tanking weapon for level 60-70 Death Knights. Since Death Knights get parry rating out of strength (because of the passive ability
Forceful Deflection
), agility for armor and crit and a nice stamina bonus. Also the 20 parry rating on the weapon is especially good.
Recommended tanking Death Knight, or a overall Death Knight weapon at 60-70. However, you need to be lucky to find Azuregos, and have someone to help you kill him. (If you're under 80 that is)
评论来自
141045
Tanking DK weapon :P
评论来自
404088
it looks awesome , i got it at lvl 80 :D on my Arms Warr (too bad i didnt get it at lvl 60 )
评论来自
162742
With all of
these weapons
available at mostly level 60 and below (one of them being a level 70 2h mace that feral druid tanks used a lot back in BC when they still needed defense rating before the
Survival of the Fittest
change that made them crit immune just from talents) it seriously made me wonder if they had at one point planned on releasing DKs as a playable class that started at level 1 in vanilla WoW... I guess if they did people would have one less reason to buy WotLK.
Oh, and DOWNRANK ME, DO IT!
评论来自
Samonsky
kinda looks something one those monks from warcraft would use
评论来自
688209
How to obtain this one in 4.3?
评论来自
Rampager
Yet again, Blizzard has removed one item to destroy a whole transmorgify concept. -.-
评论来自
Thottbot
If a hunter ever rolls on this weapon, I
NEVER
want to see him use his bow again. What's that you say? A bow is your primary weapon?
THE SWORD IS OUR PRIMARY WEAPON, YOU DAMN NOOB!
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok, so you want agility? Get Ice Barbed Spear. It has 1 more agility, less DPS, but save that meelee for the Warriors
评论来自
Thottbot
We just had 2 of these drop of Azuregos...lame.
评论来自
Thottbot
anyone have a picture of this sweety? :P
评论来自
Thottbot
People who say paladins just heal tick me off...paladins can offer support melee damage, they can TANK (yes, I tried out full protection, but I missed my seal of command), they don't heal all the time, ya know. A paladin's role, as I have percieved it; Paladins do support melee damage, cleanse, heal backup, judgments (omg melee range..and judgments put you in auto melee too), and even backup tanking and stalling just long enough for a DOT to kill a boss (happened one time in MC, shazz had 3 Curse of Dooms on him, a pally was all that was left in the group, and he ran like a maniac and stayed alive while our CoDs killed him :D). Paladins aren't your everyday heal-^&*!@, we are in plate for a reason, are we not? Granted, a DPS warrior could make more use of this than we can, but still, this will up paladin DPS while a warrior can do a lot more damage with lower DPS weapons, it'll help the group overall. If a DPS warrior wanted it, I'd say for him/her to get first dibs, then a paladin/hunter afterwards (yes, pally AND hunter get same rights if a warrior doesn't want to get it immediately in my view).
评论来自
Thottbot
Unless some of you haven't noticed, since you've been squabbling about what class should use this, this sword drops from Azuregos.
This means that you only have a fractionally small chance of getting it, unless your guild is one of the best 3 on your server, in which case you still need to find and kill Azuregos before anyone else does. And even if you do by some great fortune manage to kill Azuregos you still have less than a 1 in 5 chance of it dropping, and irrelevant of class you will probably find 5-10 people who will roll on this.
Face the facts, this weapon is too much hassle to get when there are better weapons for all classes out there.
评论来自
Thottbot
just got this yesterday ( server first on Haomarush)
slapped +25 agil on it. wooo its nice.
with a stock speed of 2.9 its already damn fast for a 2h, but when i flurry its 2.23, so its pretty nice.
and, since i have that +25 agil, the sword now gives me +2.25% crit on stats alone. wee haw.
so yeah, not just a hunter weapon.
评论来自
Thottbot
how is it good for hunters if you can get IBS from AV winning which ISNT hard. it was basically same agi and its MUCH easier
评论来自
Thottbot
First of all im sick and tired of hunters always thinking that the good melee weapons are for them....BUT I AGREE THAT THIS IS A GOOD WEAPON FOR A HUNTER.... The agility and parry helps hunters...BUT IT ISNT JUST A HUNTER WEAPON.... The weapon is also good for fury spec warrs and arms spec warriors...IF THE WARRIOR IS A PROTEC SPEC WARR DONT ROLL ON IT DUMBASS.... the agility helps fury spec warrior because it helps them crit and it buffs thier bloodthirst attack.... the strength and stam are nice too... but hunters can use this weapon also... the agility helps them crit and it buffs their range attack power... the strength isnt that great and stam is always welcome... the parry is good because of counter attack.... so....PLZ WARRIORS AND HUNTERS JUST FREAKING GET ALONG ALREADY....
评论来自
Allakhazam
Any Hunter who wins this over a Warrior or Paladin who needs this deserves castration.
Woohoo, let's just deprive the melee characters who protect us and let us stay at range of the best weapons while we sit in back and the badass sword goes totally to waste! Woohoo!
Quit trying to steal all our weapons, Hunters.
评论来自
Allakhazam
stupidity>all
Go use a 2 hander in MC or any high end instance for that matter and get owned. plz?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Once agian blizzard trys to make a end game warrior weapon and fails... f**king tards... As a warrior this pile of @#$% for all i care can go to the god damn vendor so i can buy half an arcanite bar.
All warrior talents focus on DMG not DPS..cept for protection tree which sucks for pvp.
Sword mastery = 6% chance to double attack with 5 points into it? WTF thats *!@# for an MS build (which currently out DPSs all other build thx to the bloodthirst and slam nerfs from indalamar)
http://www.wowjournal.com/glog/article.php/20040926162319590
--- info on indalamar
So anyway Arcanite Reaper is still the best warrior 2-h weapon in the game. Because of the massive 256 front end DMG and the bonus 5% crit from talents.
Stat wise Arc Reaper is better too... heres why
12+ STA well 12>10 ass hats
14 STR vs. 62 Attack power... well for every 1 STR attack power is increased by 2 thus 14x2=28<62 Arc Reaper wins here too :)
+20 AGI or 5% crit from talents (you will be shot if you say 20 AGI wins)
1% parry... well 1% is insignifigant but typhoon wins here oh well 3 to 1 Arcanite Reaper dominates this @#$%ty epic for warriors once again
GG blizzard make an epic axe with 3.8 speed plz :)
Leave this for hunters or other classes.. i still think the vendor deserves it more than a warrior oh well to bad.
Oh and by the way Arcanite Reaper graphic dominates this sword *!@#.
Edited, Mon Apr 18 21:10:24 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Very nice math indeed, more acurate than mine even.
I have one question, did you actually read the part in my post where I said that the typhoon is only better is a fight that lasts longer than 1 minuite?
And low and behond, I was right! Thank you for proving that. Really.
And the typhoon is indeed still better in longer fights, because as a fight goes on it scores more damage, which was my entire point.
Feel free to spend more time using your calculater and free time to prove it as you are obviously so much better at math than me.
And again, I didnt have to use insults to prove my point. :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
this sword is so kool because it looks like a samurai sword and when my night elf hunter get to lvl 60 i will try my best to get it
评论来自
Allakhazam
A 2h Fury Warri (I think it's stupid, but what ever) could use it, but an intelligent Warri takes a weapon with high max DMG and MS, OR 2x 1h with Fury Build (so no Typhoon).
With mi Warri i got Spinal Reaper, and I'd NEVER take this, only if no pally/hunter wants this, because even the Arcanite Reaper oder EVEN Arcanite Champion (what a crap Weapon) makes more DMG -.-
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just think about how often will a hunter use their melee weapons, think about high lvl instances, if they do, maybe like when the mobs is about half dead?
But im telling u this, warrior and pallies will be using this 100% of the time when they are fighting.
Hunter weapon? cuz of that 20 agi? go home and take a rest
评论来自
Allakhazam
i won this sword now im the most hated cuz i have the only one in server, its funny what people do for items!
profile
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?81427
评论来自
Allakhazam
hunters, brothers and sisters alike. Yes. this sword is epic. yes it has 20 agility. YES. we can use it. NO. NO, we should not role on it. Prehaps in the rare situation that nobody cares if you role, then go ahead. but 20 agil + 1% to parry is not worth it. yes, we do occasionally have to melee, and yes having a powerful weapon helps us survive. but there are better weapons out there. I am currently using Stoneraven. cost 30g, 13agil, 15stam, 13 strength, 9 spirit. I would love to have this weapon, but not when i know in my heart or hearts that someone(warrior) can use it better. plus, our agil to crit is 50:1. a warriors is 20:1 (yea we are gimped) not to comform or anything, but we ARE RANGED.
评论来自
Allakhazam
killed azuregos to day. we got 2 of this sword ^^
评论来自
Allakhazam
lol enough with the hunter should or should not roll thingy...
basically as i hunter myself i dont really like to roll on stuffs with proc.. even they look rather nice haha... but i think i would go for stuffs with stats... like this and the babarious blade.. i wouldnt mind if a melee roll on em as its still a melee weapon n if they need go ahead n roll... if i win im happy if i lost the roll fine its my luck gz to the winner ^^
anyway the only thing screwed up will be when a player who can use 2H sword roll on it rite?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Albrecht I'm not going to flame you or anything I'm simply going to correct you. You said that hunters at most melee 5% of the time, as much as I wish that that is true, it isn't. I've found it to be more like melee 30%-40% of the time and range 60%-70% of the time. In instances hunters rarely melee but when they solo and pvp they have to deal with melee most of the time. However I would not roll on this weapon because my hunter is built for high crits so I am either going to use 2x dawn's edge, babarous blade, or something else that comes out.
I just really want to make it clear to these people that fight over which class should get what weapon and say to them that they sound like selvish brats. Yes I would be mad if a warrior or rogue rolled on an epic bow/gun/crossbow just for 5-10 stamina and that they probably did it out of spite, but I wouldn't flame all over thottbot, wow forums, alla etc.. I say that if it benefits you in a significant way you should be allowed to roll on it. If an epic gun comes out that gives like 20 to str and sta I would let a tank roll on it without being mad. Also stop referring to the general populace of a class when a few stengy bastards did something that you didn't like.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I wouldn't use this for my Warrior if you paid me.
Seems to be nice for Hunters though, and takes me back to my FFXI days when Samuarai's carried swords just like this one.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm a warior and would say this is for hunters, why?
28 Melee AP
1% Crit
100 HP
Get a Barbarous blade if you want a sword, it's better than this in the long run, 60AP FTW!
评论来自
Allakhazam
That is such a hunter weapon! I must have it!
评论来自
Allakhazam
hm, reading all those posts...
... yeh right.
评论来自
Allakhazam
ok hunters, well good ones that would actually kill a boss like this, know this isn't for them.
end of story, quit talking about it.
there are better GREENS for a hunter for what'd this item would do for them vs. what it would do for a warrior (and ok fine a pally)
评论来自
Allakhazam
This would be the perfect weapon for a Survival specced hunter, if such a person exists. Otherwise, Barbarous Blade is much better.
Have no idea how this stacks up as a warrior weapon, but based on it's DPS and stats, it looks good to me. Might be too fast though.
This is a good pvp weapon for paladins, but useless in MC where their healing and mana is needed more.
Gravewalker (level 60 hunter Uldum)
Edited, Fri Jun 24 13:17:45 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got this sweet Baby last week and it's awesome.. 2,5k with seal of command no prob..
It's simply too fast for a warrior, even the Warblade of Caer Darrow is better for you, not talking of Earthshaker, etc.. and for you hunters.. stick to Barbarous Blade, it's ubber for you.
Charsomyr Paladin, Zirkel des Cenarius Germany
评论来自
Allakhazam
To Pitrax -
Duel weilding, yes, may give you 2 more agility, then again, you constantly miss with your off hand weapon.
However weilding a 2h weapon gives you a steady burst of damage, and few misses.
Setha - 45 Hunter - Scarshield Legion
评论来自
Allakhazam
I would want this just because of how it looks... lol.
I wonder if that Albrecht is Alex Albrecht. It'd be cool if it was.
评论来自
Allakhazam
leeeeet
评论来自
Allakhazam
Why isn't this a hunter weapon? We use the agility, the stamina, and the damage would be great for PvP. Also, in instances, there are small areas. We are forced to melee. In PvP, we are forced to melee. We melee far more than a warrior goes ranged. The parry is useless to hunters? Read counterattack please. Some builds require as much parry chance as possible. This is definately a hunter weapon, as long as they're specialized correctly. Any survival hunter should pick this up on the spot. Anything else, and it's questionable.
评论来自
Allakhazam
It seems to me that almost every high end weapon has a long stream of vitriol below it from people bashing on about how one class deserves the item above another, granted some of the points are valid but it strikes me that in an anctual raid the rolling with go with the consensus of that particular raid anyway, and anyone that goes against it will likley be the target of such agrovation as to not make it worth while.
But in the sense of this largley academic argument, my 2 pence worth(and something I hope will adress all the issues so far):
Part 1
- the words.
The main argument here against warriors using this sword:'It doesnt have as high max damage as the archinite reaper.'
True, it has about 20 less max damage, which in turn effects some skills of the warrior (SOME), so when u mortal strike to get about 20 more damage, just like heroic and whirlwind.
So if u look at it simply, you get 21 extra damage from skils with the archinite reaper, but what many dont seem to take into acount is even when using skills u are still plugging away with your normal melee strike, and causing 10.9 more dps with this than the archinite reaper.
Think about that, u get 20 more damage when u manage to use a skill and u get 10.9 more damage PER SECOND.
For those that will still argue with this lets do a few sums done in a one on one battle:
Part 2
- the sums:
Archinite Reaper:
damage between
153-256 = 204
median damage every 3.8 seconds
Now lets assume you can get a skill off every swing to make the math easier to understand, lets make it mortal strike, that means that every swing the archinite reaper is inflicting
256+160=416
for each mortal strike. (I have assumed every swing because if I didnt Im sure some warriors would argue they could do a skill every swing, and although maybe it wont be mortal every time the principle is the same).
So that makes
204+416=630
damage a swing.
Times that over, say, a 5 minuite period:
79(swings)x630=
49770
damage done total
Typhoon:
damage between 150-225=187 median damage every 2.8 seconds
187+160(mortal strike)= 347
187+347=534 done every 2.8 seconds over 5 mins=
107(swings)x534=
57138
total damage
Archinite Reaper = 49770
Typhoon = 57138
So, in other words, over a set period of time typoon completely outdistances the reaper in terms of damage, making it a better melee weapon.
On a side note, and for those that will read this and then say something in terms of 'but that means nothing because you could kill a player/normal mob in a few swings'. Yes a normal mob or a cloth wearer you could kill in relativley few swings, but not any elite, any boss, any mail/plate wearer.
Conclusion: The Typhoon does more damage than the archinite reaper to anything that takes over 1 minuite to kill (a seporate equation would have to be done for this as thats a guess).
Part 3
- the stats:
This is mainly aimed at SynergyXL who did a terrible job of compairing stats between the 2 ( you dont compare 5% crit from a talent to 20agi, you compare it to the equivelent sword talent).
Lets have a look at the two stat sets:
Arcanite Reaper
+13 sta
+62 attack power
Typhoon
14 str
20 agi
10 sta
1% dodge
The stam differenice is obvious: 30 more hp from the reaper.
Which leaves the reapers 62 extra power against Typhoons 3 other stats.
Reaper
62 attack power = 4.4 extra dps
Typhoon
14 str = 2 extra dps
20 agi = 1% extra dodge/crit chance/20 extra ac
1% extra dodge
SSo in exchange for 2.4dps you are getting 2%dodge chance/1%crit chance and 20 extra armour. I know whcih I would choose.
Comparing sword proc to extra axe crit from talents is another matter, this debate is between the quality of the weapons, not the talent tree.
Part 4
- Conclusion
Pretty simple really, the Typoon does more damage the longer you use it, it has better stats and the only place to use the reaper is if you only intend hitting something a few times, and even then, you miss out on the better stats.
P.S
The Typhoon is one of the best melee weapons in the game, and in my opinion should be given to the most specifically melee class in the game, which is a warrior since they will use it much more often than a hunter, its that simple. Im not denying its a good sword for a hunter, its a freaking great sword for a hunter, but as has been said there are better (and easier to get) for hunters, there arent for warriors.
P.P.S
To the people hurling insults around, you will notice at no point did I call anyone a noob, idiot, clueless, fool or any such term for having an opinion.
Edited, Thu Apr 21 08:08:44 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Warrior > Hunter
that's just how it is get used to it
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is for the last of those of my kind that exist... the two handed fury build. Period. Although since so few exist they get handed down to the lesser beings *sigh*.
评论来自
Allakhazam
A warrior friend of mine won this for only 10 dkp bid, and the 2 hunters in the raid weren't even interested, even though some people said that it's definitely a hunter weapon.
Anyway, it looks awesome. It already glows without any enchantments.
评论来自
Allakhazam
id take dal rends, oh wait i did :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Seriously, hunter weapon
评论来自
Allakhazam
Bought this for style a few weeks ago, looks cool but it sits in my bank a lot. The minute DKP this cost me caused me to lose the Bindings of Command off Huhuran by 8, in a DKP pool where me and the other guy were both at 12k+...
><
3rd week in a row I came in 2nd in DKP for those Bindings; at least the Bindings always drop though. =/
Edit: as far as weapons go it's nothing special damage-wise; I use a Zin'Rokh and my damage is better. The Typhoon does look very nice though. =)
Edited, Tue May 9 06:00:48 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
What use does a paly or War have for +20 agil? i can see the Str being usefull maybe then you failures will be able to hold aggro? This is a hunter weapons the name of it pairs it with Hurricane. Hello?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have a hunter, and i WILL roll, and NO ONE will blacklist me you bunch of babies, cry over a game and a sword... I dont care if a warrior wants it, i will roll and take it and wear it, and there is not much u can do about it except cry over my winning and u losing :) Get over it you crying babies, just a game, no sence in crapping your diapers because u didnt get a sword. Hunters dont get a damn thing because warriors and paladins think they get it all. Go cry me a river. And dont come to my server, i like it baby free.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hunter Melee Abilities/Needs:
Counter Attack
Raptor Strike
Mongoose Bite
-Survival Tree-
-P V P-
Warrior Ranged Abilities/Needs:
Ranged Attack
In PvP, Hunters rarely maintain a range. If you let a Hunter stay 8 yards away from you at all times in PvP you are;
A)Another Hunter
B)Retarded
I can understand how all you crybaby warriors on carebear servers might have missed this fact, because you were too busy cleaning sand out of your vagina to think about anyone but yourselves.
"Wah fine then I'm rolling on an epic bow!" Why don't you pull your tiny head out and realize that's a completely different ballpark. We outshine you exponentially in ranged combat. That would be like a Hunter rolling on a cloth +healing item for his 1 single pet heal. We have talents, abilities, and pvp requirements for melee. You have "ranged attack" and the need to be a spiteful asshat. Yes your melee better than ours. But we're much closer to your lvl of melee than you are to our lvl or ranged power. The fact of the matter is this is just as useful for a soloing/pvp hunter as it is for an instance running warrior/paladin. And Hunters spend a lot more time out grinding and engaging in pvp than anyone spends in an instance anyway.
Face the facts. On a PvP server, this is a fabulous weapon for hunters as well. Yeah, in instances, this thing will sit on my back and do nothing but give me more of that sweet sweet agility. But the Other 90 PERCENT OF THE TIME I'M PLAYING it would be a very valuable weapon. Johnson and Johnson makes a great product for the warriors in this thread. No More Tears BABY shampoo. Greedy bastards, all of you.
-Eumyin
Hunter
Edited, Mon Apr 18 13:51:25 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
For a hunter this is Nice but is not THE uber weapon. Even the Divine warblade of the monkey ( yes GASP! a green) is damned close.
Id take Barberous Blade over this any day of the week. FOr guys who just have to have the purple its about the best choice. Id say let all who will use it roll on it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
its ok..
评论来自
Allakhazam
speaking as a warrior that already has it.
i got it few days ago. helping a group with the kill. nobody wanted it so i got it for 20g as it was a nexus roll.
i respecced to 20/31 just to try it out. lots of damage done when you crit with it.
Yes it can be used well by a warrior. but im still back at 31/20 with the halberd of smiting. as much as i enjoyed the flurry n all. i still prefer the great performance of mortal strike in pvp :)
and yes. it looks so awesome with a deviate cake eaten :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Where you get it?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Its a game people! All of you are probably bitter because you were in some raid and didn't win it, whether a Warrior, Pally, or a Hunter got it. Who cares, do the raid again and try to win it again! Suck it up and deal with it. Its all the cry babies out there that make me hate games like this. Just have fun and play. I am a level forty hunter I roll on the things that are necessary for me, one handed axes and swords, guns, and now mail armor. I win what I win and I f I dont I walk away and try again, or I try to buy it from that person. But you know what If I can't get it, I dont go to the nearest forum and start crying about it. Be a man and Fight again and try to get it. See what you people mad me do, I am actually responding to this, You made me so upset I had to respond, DAMN YOU ALL!
评论来自
Allakhazam
just a better ice barbed spear.... thats all
评论来自
Allakhazam
The Ultimate Retribution Paladin Weapon... The power of Seal of Command and Vengeance with this weapon would be truly awesome. It defies the rules of using Seal of Command with a slower weapon since most slower weapons have higher burst damage over faster ones, but this already has a pretty decent burst damage with its fast speed..
Edited, Thu Mar 31 12:55:15 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
anyone who thinks this weapon is for anything but a paladin/warrior is not in their right mind.
warriors use all three of those stats, and as TaniHH stated, hunters? you use your freakin bows...we RELY on melee...THANKS.
thats like me wanting a good cloth item, b/c mages don't use stamina.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ya know i hear this an i hear that the sword is sweet an as a hunter would roll on it in a heart beat the ya warriors an pallies would use the damage delay to better affect but truth be known the stats on this weapon would really boost a hunters output .Now just because some $%^& heads think hunters never melee dosent mean crap I primarly solo so i end up meleeing a butt load . you want to try an castrate me go for it I'll meet ya face ta face an thump ya an then get back on the game an go my merry way . each class has there uses for items an each class that can use will have people that want this sword but not everyone in those classes will want it even with the kicken dps an stats because it dosent follow what they want or their path they took there toons down.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Not verry funny lancemay, any way
LOL!
(I'd prefer the Dire Maul weapons)
Then go get it... This is a RAID boss, 40 people, that means every warrior/pally is going to have a 8-9% chance of this dropping and rolling.
You said it yourself, the 2h DM weapon is better than this. So hunters, pass on this because you can get a dicidedly better 2h and you will only have to 5 man the instance, not 40.
My point is, it is way better on warrior/pally than it will EVER be on a hunter and its 35 times harder to get than the thing in DM, so hunters should pass and get a nice little DM group.
Go get your best gear, not other peoples.
评论来自
Allakhazam
when will warriors just accept the fact that there are hunters that are good at melee that parrying is perfect for mongoose bite and i am steadfast on this idea so shut up besides i also use melee i'm accually a 50%/50% hunter (gasp) and i have easily beaten warriors and paladins in melee it's called a pet, landmines, raptor strike, and lacerate and if need be I wingclip and attack from a distance oh yeah the +1% parry if you accually use your brain for once you'll realize that we hunters don't have very good armor and we also have a minimum range for bows guns and crossbows. so if we can't fire cause of the enemy being too close we have to go melee and if our melee is crap we will get owned. suprisingly my melee dps is higher than my ranged dps. but back to the defensive porposes we can't use plate armor so we need to make up for that in agility and parrying thus we need all those bonuses. we also need to make up for low armor with HP thus we also need the stamana bonus if anybody has a problem you can take a number.
*points to the grenade with a piece of paper with a number "1" written on it tied to the pin*
Edited, Tue Apr 12 11:48:03 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Does a warrior need this? Hell no... Any smart warrior who has pvp experience will tell you that this is crap.. Stats wise its nice, but dmg wise? id rather not... Arcanite Reaper is the way to go, as if u check warrior abilities and talents.. they are dmg based. Thus my noobish friends, higher dmg weapons mean higher dmg output! Congratz you have learnt something new. I, as a warrior, would pass this to a hunter as it is more usefull for them, because yes they need the stats more. Any warrior that says otherwise is a retard and u should reroll. Any warrior that bases an item on its DPS is a retard and should reroll.. Smart warriors look at dmg, not dps.. A hunter would put this to more good use then a warrior would as his dmg out put would be less.. Seriously, get a clue.. gg khtnx have fun noobs
评论来自
Allakhazam
Yeah, I have it as a pally, not a bad epic, considering I won't be getting Finkles any time soon. Spent 45 DKP on it, the min was 40, bid against another pally, no hunters wanted it, theyre all saving their DKP for the Petrified Leaf. Considering EVERY pally in my guild will bid for Finkles, i dont feel like spending 90-120 DKP for my weapon, and this isnt that much worse, considering ill be able to get 1-2 more pieces of lawbringer faster now. It all depends on how loot gets divided in you guild on whether or not you should try to get this.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Such morons. What hunter is going to take 20agi over two one handers with 1 to crit. I can think of 30 combinations at end game that offer more agi or more crit, or BOTH.
I'd definitely use this over 2 dawn's edges. You're on crack if you think it isn't a good hunter weapon, those stats are perfect for hunters.
评论来自
Allakhazam
But when it comes to REALITY, which is undeniably the most important thing, the hunter that rolled on this weapon when another warrior/paladin needed it, would get instantly smacked out of his guild, and refused access to any other guild that had knowledge of what happened. Seriously.. A hunter uses his melee 15% of the time, and when it comes to endgame, i'd laugh at a hunter trying to go melee in a raid. And then have him kicked. A hunter does NOT need this sword, he needs to screw his head on right and go get himself decent gun/bow
飓风
Fri Apr 1 10:20:13 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
That's why pickup raids suck :) If you're in a decent end-game guild, a hunter won't get this, unless no war or pally want it. When a guild does something, the looting rules are set up to benefit the entire guild. Can a hunter use it? Of course; it's a 2hand sword, and hunters can use 2hand weapons. Is it going to be 90% just for show on a hunter & will be put to good use on a war or a pally? You bet. Just like my pally is never going to want, ask to be considered for a drop, roll on , etc cloth. Wow a cloth <slot name> with 30 int on it.. hell my pally needs mana & I can wear cloth too! Why shouldn't I be able to? Because there are much more effective pieces for me, and it will benefit a priest, mage, or warlock MUCH more than it would benefit me.. and thus benefit the entire guild. Would any decent guild out there actually prefer their hunter to walk around with one just to brag & show it off in IF, or would they want the war or pally to use it. So yeah, if a hunter in your guild gets this, don't feel too bad ;) if the loot distrobution is such that loot is going to people that will hardly ever use it, and keeping it out of the hands where it's goign to do
everbody
in the guild some good, I doubt you'll be getting any of the good stuff from MC & such anytime soon lol.
To make one final point, that somebody mentioned earlier.. look at it this way, hunters(and yes I have a hunter also, and I wouldn't do anything retarded like try to keep a weapon like this from another war or pally, unless everybody already had one that wanted it) : How would
you
feel if a warrior or rogue wanted to get an awesome epic bow, that puts the hand cannon to shame? Or if a pally or warrior wanted to get that set piece, or an epic chain chest piece? Hell they will never use it, but you know, they can use chain too so why not, eh?
I'm not saying that NO hunter should EVER get it.. but they should be at the end of the line, after any war or pally that wanted it has gotten it. If you're trying to get in on items that will be of GREAT use to some classes and little to none to you, but you would rather you get it instead of somebody that's actually going to use it, just so you can show it off (and you know good and well that's why a hunter wants this, if you're saying otherwise, you're a liar, sorry but it's true), than you're just plain greedy, and if you have a guild full of greedy people, you're not going anywhere int he game, sorry to disapoint you. But hell, you can always look up on various message boards and see what the successful guilds are up to, right?
edit: had to update sig =D
Edited, Fri Apr 1 18:56:58 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ok now since all you retarded hunters have spent so much time looking at all the warrior weapons that you can steal, you've forgotten to look at the weapons that were made for YOU.
Striker's Mark
Core Marksman Rifle
Blastershot Launcher
A few things i'd like to add.
1)Don't try to make a comeback by saying "Oh but they're so rare!" Guess what, Typhoon has a small chance to drop off of one mob who requires 40+ people to kill.
2)Blastershot Rifle has +1% crit chance, Striker's Mark has +20 ATK power and +1% chance to hit. These are all stats a warrior could use, even though we have absolutely no use for the rest of the item. If i see a hunter with a typhoon, you bet i'll be one proud warrior to make things even. After all, i can equip these weapons, right? That must make them warrior weapons too.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This sword is great I my self would roll on this I am a 60 paladin. I read alot of these posts about hunters should roll and warriors shouldnt. I would like to see a MS warrior or a Ret paladin get this over a hunter. Not cuz I hate hunters cuz I dont I play a hunter also a level 40 hunter. I think Paladins or Warriors should get this over hunters cuz most hunters want AGI yes this has 20 agi not bad but a hunter rolls on every weapon that has agi. I think hunter should give this weapon to a paladin or warrior who will use it and not get it just for the stats so they can sit back and look cool. I dont mind a hunter getting this if no one needs it but it should go to a paladin or warrior I think cuz you dont see a hunter up there in melee attack tanking a mob you see there pet or a warrior or paladin tanking for them.
Also I saw someone said that blade of hanna is better for a paladin witch is wrong. This sword has better DPS then blade of hanna and as a Ret paladin you want the dps to hold aggro if there is no warrior to tank so this sword would be better for a paladin.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is for the last of those of my kind that exist... the two handed fury build. Period. Although since so few exist they get handed down to the lesser beings *sigh*.
评论来自
Allakhazam
why did he post twice?
Btw i got typhoon and manslayer of the qiraji as a %^&*!@#.. always use 2H weps IN CASE u need to melee, wich will be only for a second or 2, so you will get a bigger blow of dmg than with 2 misses from the bone slicing hatchets... and that gives u a slight advantage.. and *!@# AG... AP will be the new deal.
评论来自
Allakhazam
My Hunter would love this Sword.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hey folks! Wasn't there a picture oce upon a time?
评论来自
Allakhazam
60 Rogue here.
When Azuregos was first introduced in that patch a long time ago, I was 100% sure with tons of other people that this was a warrior sword. I had known nothing at all about warriors, and very little about hunters.
Now I've played both, and know a lot more, and this is 100% a hunter sword. Warriors who use this are only gimping themselves.
评论来自
Allakhazam
stupidity>all
Go use a 2 hander in MC or any high end instance for that matter and get owned. plz?
Got PVP?........... your stupidity>all
Pallys wouldn't take aggro with a 2h any way, so every pally is better off just using a 2h no matter what in instances, warriors should stick to 1h/taunt
评论来自
Allakhazam
I play a pally. but THIS my friends is a pure hunter weapon.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm tired of all this
"Hunter - Weapon" - Blabla!
评论来自
Allakhazam
While I have to agree with both sides of this arguement, there's a bigger picture to look at. Sure, this would be more advantageous in the hands of a Warrior/Pally in MC, but how often does everyone go to MC? There are a lot of loot "rules" that no one really abides by because of these "I can use it better" lines that are just horse poo. +20 agility? Why wouldn't a hunter want that? Cause you could use it better? In an end-game guild, I can see that being an issue, but that's taking into account you're in an endgame guild and on a guild only raid.
But what if I'm not in your guild (or any guild for that matter)? What if I could care less if your warrior needs this for MC? Warriors/Pallys get free range on any melee weapon and Hunters get first shot on ranged weapons? Gee, that sounds great. Let's see, there are, um... 30-40 melee weapons available for endgame War/Pals and there are... oh, 8 ranged weapons? One of which comes off a quest!
You want to keep the hunters quiet? Why don't you stingy, greedy f'ers help your hunters get their next best bows without whining about "there's nothing in it for me" and then turn around in instances where we do a ton of damage for you knowing that all we're gonna get out of it is a 8% chance of catching a piece of Beaststalker?
If the weapon had no bonuses, I could care less. Hunters who roll on Doomsaw should be taken out and shot. But while we're not melee's when there are tanks around, don't drop this "Hunters don't melee" s--t around the yard. I'm not wearing hip boots. Especially since our pet aggro's got nerfed with this patch.
We helped kill it, and if we're not in your guild, you better damn well believe we have the right to roll on it. If you run a pick-up and are rolling on the drop, then when this drops and the non-guild Hunter wants to roll and you say no with your narrow minded understanding of what hunters deal with outside of instance raids, you're pretty much saying "f you, it's mine". How's that any different than being a ninja-looting scumbag?
If you say at the beginning of the raid "hunters will not be allowed to roll on Typhoon", you can skip all the complaining. More than likely the hunters will just leave with some rude parting gestures. If they stay, they've got no right to complain.
评论来自
Allakhazam
hi im lvl 60 hunter
imo this is a +crit warr weapon and not a hunter weapon every hunter who goes 2h should go for Barberous Blade or peacemaker...
Barberous Blade gives you ~50 atack power = ~25 agility and 1% crit..... the 1% crit of Barberous Blade is better than 14 str, 10 stm and ~15dps more meele...
every hunter should go for crit gear cause a hunter need ~60 agi for 1% crit
on the other side a warrior need about ~18 agi for 1% crit so this is a warrior weapon
评论来自
Allakhazam
I don't really see this as a good Hunter weapon currently.
Maybe when they finally do the mythical "Hunter love patch" and revamp the survival tree into something worth taking, it'd be good, but currently hunters need +crit simply because our crit/agi is so low. A warrior or a paladin will get +1% crit from this, a hunter will only get .4%. Of course, this isn't that good for Arms warriors or Retrib pallies, so right now the only people I could see really wanting it are the odd 2h Fury warrior and non-retri Pallies.
However, if Counterattack ever gets buffed so it does 100% damage instead of flat damage, I'm going after this in a heartbeat.
评论来自
Allakhazam
A wise man once gave me wise advise....don't suck. It's ever so simple. Don't suck. Just don't. Survival hunters suck....marksman hunters a practical and therefore naturally rule. Warriors who deck out themselves with agi gear assuming that the dodge bonus will help them and the crit bonus will help them suck royally and are very VERY stupid. Warriors who focus on stamina and strength which will drastically increase their raw dps and chance to hit along with hp are intelligent and therefore rule. Typhoon is a 20 agi and yes, 17 strength weapon. The strength and parry are good for warriors. While the 20 agi vs. 17 strength and the parry which helps really any non caster clearly helps hunters as well. Either way this works out. The agility helps a hunter's ranged dps and is a prime stat for them thus drastically increases their crit, dodge, and chance to hit. While the strength does the same thing for warriors and for those who are doing pvp it's ever so good. So people, don't suck and good things will happen.
评论来自
Allakhazam
As I am I hunter, I'd agree with it's a hunter weapon
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is a nice sword for pvp Warriors and pvp Pallys just because of the stats and the +1% parry. Other than that, I wouldnt down this 40-man outdoor raid boss for it. There are better pvp weapons out there that have better stats
GL downing this boss. He is a bundle of joy wrapped up in pain and misery of repair bills.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Damn forums are slow, double post.
Edited, Tue Mar 29 06:39:32 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Yes hunters would use the +20 Agi very well, but wont have ANY use for the rest. The stamina MAYBE, but come on. Without warriors there, agi would be useless. You would be owned in an instant. Warriors have a MUCH greater need for this than Hunters.They actually use all the stats and proc. increased parry, stamina=HP, strength=dmg, and agility=armour+crit which Warriors need much more than hunters. Although the Hunter would benefit greatly from it, it might as well be Warrior only. Pally, maybe, less need than hunter, but still. Warrior should have no competition from Hunters when rolling for this weapon.
评论来自
Allakhazam
What I would like to know is how everyone knows so much about hunters. I would use this weapon a lot as a hunter. People tell me it's stupid for hunters to go melee, and well it's unavoidable. There is no reason for a hunter to even go on this raid because this is the only item that drops that we can use. It's like saying its stupid for rogues to get maces or swords because they can do so much more damage with daggers. And as far as PvP I have to go melee more then ranged. In any PvP fight people always take ranged combat away from hunters because they can be so deadly. Too bad I can kick just as much ass ranged as I do melee. I think people need to stop giving hunters such a hard time about this weapon. This is such a bad ass weapon especially in PvP, and I'd use it nonstop!
I think unless you played a hunter you need to stop ragging on us. And when I mean play a hunter I mean fully play a hunter, got get to level 40 and say that you played one. I've seen my style of play change a lot since I hit 60, and believe it or not I go melee a lot more now, and die a lot less.
Edited, Tue Mar 29 13:59:49 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
im a lvl 60 warrior and i got this sword, it owns pretty much rape people with reaper / doomsaw
评论来自
Allakhazam
Rather sorry for that double post, I was semi-conscious when clicking 'Post Message', and when it took me to some other site, I presumed I had pressed the wong button.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is for the last of those of my kind that exist... the two handed fury build. Period. Although since so few exist they get handed down to the lesser beings *sigh*.
评论来自
Allakhazam
.....
only idiots play 2h warriors as a fury build.
Arms is the 2H warrior tree, with some thrown into furry.
Furry tree is for DW warriors.
....
评论来自
Allakhazam
this is totally a hunter weapon, if you compare it to other closely made warrior weapons, you look at the damage range its a big difference. A warrior wouldnt need something with that much damage, they need better. You want a warrior weapon go for destroyer of worlds, untamed blade, etc.
评论来自
Allakhazam
the point is it would be wasted on a hunter.
the damage output by this with a ms warrior would be nuts, on the other hand, a hunter, it would be SUCH a waste of damage
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm so tired of the stupid Paladins and Warriors always bashing hunters! Stop crying if a hunter gets this sword or any other! You had your roll and the favor was not yours. You guys/girls NEVER thing a good epic such as this is good enough for a hunter. This is a Paladin, Warrior, AND Hunter sword! Stop being babies if you lose to a hunter. You guys get all the cool stuff. If i get a chance i sure will roll on it... and guess what, NO ONE will hate me for it because i will use it and it wont hurt anyone. Hurrican/Typhoon, they go together and ask a GM, it was made for us TOO!
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is obviously more better for warriors than hunters. True it maybe good for hunters, but a warrior will certainly make more use of this than any hunter could.
Agility
For some that dont believe, Agil is an important stat for warriors. Agil could actually surpass str in usefulness for warriors. For example, a fury warrior would find agil a lot more useful than str, because fury warriors are dependant on flurry therefore they would be better with agil to increase their crit % so flurry would proc.
Strenght
The str stat on the sword almost ensures that this is a warrior sword. Warriors melee far far more than hunters.
Stamina
No need to say that stam is more useful to warriors than hunters.
Parry
1% parry is yet again more useful to warriors because they melee a lot more than hunters.
In the end, this weapon is Warrior>Hunter. Warriors should have more priority on the weap than hunters.
Edited, Wed Mar 30 05:42:31 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Anyone who says this is a hunter weapon... goddamn. This is DEFINITELY a Paladin/Warrior weapon. You spend 80% of your time shooting your gun rather than using a weapon to bash people in melee. Would you be happy if you got outrolled on Dwarven Hand Cannon by a Warrior? Just because you can use it, doesn't mean you should. Hell, I could roll on Beaststalkers if I wanted to.
Is this a PvP weapon? Hell yes. It does the equivalent of Blackhand Doomsaw, but is much faster, allowing Paladins to 'hopefully' prevent someone from kiting. Warriors should use it because many are heavy on crit-based builds (Paladins likewise), and this would create HEAVY damage.
Strength: Tank Stat
Agility: Hunter Stat, also a Critadin and Warrior Stat
Stamina: Obvious Tank Stat
Increased Parry: If you think this is even a remotely important hunter stat, you shouldn't even be in the raid to kill Azuregos.
Edited, Wed Mar 30 17:26:03 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'll agree that many hunters deserve a bad rep for rolling on inappropriate weapons like Blackblade of Sharam or a Doomsaw.
However, this is not one of those weapons. It has awesome stat boosts, which are exactly what a hunter would ideally want. The weapons that hunters need to learn to defer to warriors on are ones with only proc and no stats, for the simple reason that the warrior will proc that thing a hundred times more often. Hunter's wearing proc weapons don't look uber... they look foolish.
Typhoon though, is great damage, but its on the fast side for a MS warrior build, Arcanite Reaver probably still wins out. With no proc and good stats its a great weapon for a Hunter or warrior... not bad for a pally, but no where near as good as BLade of Hanna is for them.
评论来自
Allakhazam
"I'm tired of all this
"Hunter - Weapon" - Blabla! "
This
seriously
is a hunter weapon though.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I would sacrifice my family for this! someone post a pick PLEASE
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://img41.exs.cx/img41/7868/typhoon8wq.jpg
There you go. =) I really would like this weapon, but the Blackhand Doomsaw is enticing for a retribution paladin. =)
评论来自
Allakhazam
And YES, I have a 60 PALADIN TOO! i would want this for both but wouldnt hate a hunter for beating me out of it!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Maybe you didn't see my point...
What the &*!@ is a hunter going to do with the highest dps 2h sword in game (64.7)
?
If your playing proppery you should be kiting the hell out of whatever. (and assuming you are, you should only hit them each time your gonna wing clip, blackhand doomsaw is probably even better because if the proc goes off then you have even more damage (but no agility, I know, I'm just proving a point))
When BG comes out I want to see Hunters meleeing so bad... Just so everyone can finally see how bad hunters are meleeing, if you have played dota then expect BG to be like that, but way more complicated. Would some one who is ranged run up in the front and start bashing people with his awsome epic 2h? Hell %^&*ing no. Wich is the same reason rogues don't sit in the back and use ranged. The only reason a hunter should want a weapon is for the stats, and there ARE better stat weapons than this.
评论来自
Allakhazam
let me ask you hunters that already did azuregos.. did you go melee on him to take him down..? no? okay..
评论来自
Allakhazam
If we all sat down and debated which item belong to which class then well obviously everyone would say ME.
So with this in mind just ROLL and hope for the best!
That's why we all ROLL!
Sounds fair enuff?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ok. What are we hunters supposed to roll on then? Are we just there to do tons of dmg and walk away being happy for the warrior/Paladin? This is the only thing that drops that a hunter could have a use for counting both Azuregos and Kazzak. Warriors should use 1h and shield. They are designed to tank. Start the flame..
*To Araceil: "1)Don't try to make a comeback by saying "Oh but they're so rare!" Guess what, Typhoon has a small chance to drop off of one mob who requires 40+ people to kill."
The weapons you listed there has an even smaller % of dropping in Molten Core. Last time I checked Molten core was a hard raid instance.Think you need a lot of people there too.*
*Edit: *Edit* I wouldn't roll for this thou. There is better weapons for hunters. I have this one that is better for me than the Typhoon.
残暴之刃
Mon Apr 11 15:43:52 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
The first Typhoon drop on Archimonde went to a warrior, this was a pickup raid.
We are up to the sixth, seventh, or so kill today, it was Dominion and Nurfed this time.. Two Typhoons dropped.. the loot was split among the two guilds and they both only let hunters roll on this.
If you're a warrior, you simply should just take a reaper, and let hunters pick up on the stats.
http://www.whataboutpp.com/upload/typhoonhax.jpg
评论来自
Allakhazam
Guess what.
Not every warrior has a two hand axe warrior build. Some of us have a two hand sword build or GASP... A sword and shield build.
Whether the math for arcanite reaper = 1 billion dps or 1, its irrelevent for those of us who don't us axes at all. So if I'm a warrior who uses swords for whatever reason ,be it appearance, the want to not a be a cookie cutter template, or whatever the reason...I'm going to roll on it if it's better than the one I have.
I would roll on this in a heartbeat.
Please dont post telling me how gimped a non 2h axe warrior is or on spelling or gramatical errors because it's irrellivent.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just a word on the Sword specialisation vs Axe specialiseation.
First, dont listen to Synergy, he appears to have the opinion that his is the only one that matters for some reason, and anyone that differs is a fool. Bless him.
On top of the fact thats its been proved below that typhoon scores more damage in a 5min fight using sword proc over the arc reaper and axe proc there are a few other concerns to note when using sword over axe talent.
For instance, what many people (including synergy Im assuming since this wasnt within his marvelous maths; he didnt add in the chance for an extra attack to the MS strikes) is that the 6% chance for an additional attack doesnt ONLY apply to regular attacks, it can also proc from an MS/whirlwind/overpower. Basically any melee attack can cause the sword proc to activate, including the sword proc itself, although this is extrodanarily rare.
So in other words, if this had been factored in the 5 min battle, the typhoon would have beaten the arc. reaper by an even larger margin.
5% extra crit from the axe specialiation is great, and a fabulous option for an warrior, but the sword specialisation is at least the equal of it when you factor in its ability to proc off pretty much anything.
That said, if u are including impale in your build the extra crit chance would pay off more for the 20% addition damage per crit, but not everyone uses impale, and not everyone uses the exact same talent build either.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I am a level 60 hunter, second Alliance hunter to hit 60 on my server. Today I got this sword.
I didn't roll for it. Our guild uses a point system, and I was actually near the bottom of the points list. The point is that pretty much all the warriors/paladins passed on it. The difference is that we have a "no idiots" policy in our guild, and many of the warriors and paladins realize that there are better weapons out there for them.
Anyone that says that Arcanite Reaper is a better weapon for a warrior is partially right. Reaper is better burst damage and better for pvp - typhoon is better sustained damage and for long battles.
Anyone who says that hunters should be using greens "of agility" or "of the monkey" is just a complete !@#$ing moron. Maybe if we didn't have an 8 yard minimum range we wouldn't care about having good melee weapons.
Now I'm not saying this is a bad weapon for a warrior, it's definitely a good one. It's also a good weapon for a paladin.
The kicker is that this is the BEST two handed melee weapon for a hunter. Period. There are no better ones in the game.
For a warrior? Obsidian Edged Blade BLOWS this away. Equal dps, much higher max damage, and +42 strength. Bonereaver's Edge (although a bit harder to get) is also way, way better.
For a paladin? Earthshaker is a much better pvp weapon, knockdown = nobody running away. Finkle's Lava Dredger is a GODLY paladin weapon.
So while this is not the best weapon for a warrior/paladin, it is by far the best weapon for a hunter. That's why I currently, as a hunter, wield the only Typhoon to ever drop on the Alliance side on my server (horde usually have a stranglehold on Azuregos).
There are no better 2h melee weapons in the game for me, this is it. I'll never need another melee weapon again. If a warrior were wielding this, he'd cry when Obsidian Edged Blade dropped.
And for the guy who said this: "ok hunters, well good ones that would actually kill a boss like this, know this isn't for them"
Any guild that is killing a boss of this magnitude knows that this weapon is for hunters, and that there are far better warrior/paladin weapons in the game. And anyone that thinks hunters should be using green weapons with zero @#$%ing dps should be shot in the face.
评论来自
Allakhazam
lol synergy has way too much time on his hands. btw the math you did can be done with a normal calculator don't try and pass yourself off as some math wiz. as for your comment about how proud you were about not namecalling, i am pretty sure dyslexic fu*k is namecalling. 14 year olds like you shoudln't be arguing over a sword in WoW forums you should be experimenting with the wonderful world of masterbation.
as for the sword, arcanite may be better for a warrior but not by much. if i had the chance to roll for this i wouldn't say "hmm, i should pass because i have 500 extra gold lying around to spend on a reaper."
warriors- roll
pallies- allies suck, don't roll
hunters- roll
everyone else- don't roll or get blacklisted as a ninja
i am still in awe about how long synergy's post was. get a hobby man.
评论来自
Allakhazam
My guild let me tag along for this kill yesterday. I'm only lvl 55 but I stood back and did my Hunter thing, racked up 7% of the total DPS on this fool too. And guess what happened, 2 of these dropped.
Guess what happened next?
They both went to Hunters. Know why? Cause our Paladins/Warriors aren't retards! They all -PASSED- on the thing. We hunters didn't outroll anyone, the tanks said 'here ya go man, I have a (insert better tank weapon here) and you could use this more effectively.
So, let me just point out to all the greedy warriors and paladins in this forum, that there are a majority of people in your community that are -smarter- than you are and know when to pass off loot to someone who can put it to better use.
This is now in my bank, waiting for me to hit 60 =D.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This may, (considering the speed stats and chance to parry) be actaully the best 2h weapon for a hunter, well... that you won't get your head ripped off for taking. Although i still see tons of warriors with it, it wouldn't be terrible for a hunter
评论来自
Allakhazam
I wouldn't take this sword. Waste of DKPs. Id gladly give it to a warrior/pallie. Ice barbed spear (
冰刺长矛
has better stat bonuses. The higher melee DPS and +1% parry is useless. Im keepin my dal'rends, thanks.
评论来自
Allakhazam
my goblin holy spec'd warlock would roll on this in a heartbeat! then he'd laugh at you pety little warriors, pallies, and hunters! haha!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Personally i dont care if i will be meleeing or not, Why dont i just wear a grey sword that doesnt do @#$%, i wont be meleeing?
the point is, the stats on this sword are really nice, thats why hunters will use them. I wont roll on it over a warrior, but i would rather have it than see it get DEed.
评论来自
Allakhazam
the better argument is the 2% crit 2h axe rare from Tribute Chest, or the 51 dps dagger which also drops off Azu.
2% crit can be attained by hunters dual wield in several combinations of blue items. 20 agility can be attained easily by green items.
With Typhoon, I do 50k+ damage on magmadar while other 2h warriors end up doing 30-35k. Thats a huge improvement, and on some MC mobs (firelords for example) I often out-dps the rogues and mages with constant sweeping/cleaves + executes. This helps my guild, a typhoon on a hunter is purely a vanity item. The best hunters melee at most 5% of the time. Warriors melee 100% of the time. You dont have to be Einstein to figure out who it benefits most.
评论来自
Allakhazam
If you put points into sword mastery, you deserve to be shot.
评论来自
Allakhazam
"And by the way Typhoon adds 1% PARRY, not dodge you dyslexic fu*k."-SynergyXL
You do realise that I know several people with Dyslexia who have a mental age that isn't a lesser amount than their physical age(Guessing you are over 8 years of age, an opposite of you.), and are also probably more intelligent than you.
Also: Anyone who WILL use it deserves to roll on it. Warrior, Paladin, Hunter, whatever, everyone should havethe oppurtunity. (I do realise there was a spelling error there.)
Commenting on your intelligence, show yourself to be a little more mature, don't act prejudiced, and you would seem rather intelligent.
评论来自
Allakhazam
"And by the way Typhoon adds 1% PARRY, not dodge you dyslexic fu*k."-SynergyXL
You do realise that I know several people with Dyslexia who have a mental age that isn't a lesser amount than their physical age(Guessing you are over 8 years of age, an opposite of you.), and are also probably more intelligent than you.
Also: Anyone who WILL use it deserves to roll on it. Warrior, Paladin, Hunter, whatever, everyone should havethe oppurtunity. (I do realise there was a spelling error there.)
Commenting on your intelligence, show yourself to be a little more mature, don't act prejudiced, and you would seem rather intelligent.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is for the last of those of my kind that exist... the two handed fury build. Period. Although since so few exist they get handed down to the lesser beings *sigh*.
评论来自
Allakhazam
this thing is a total hunk o' junk
if a pally or warr equips this good luck
its completely a hunter wep
(note the +algi)
2.90 speed & 150 - 225 Damage?
ive seen better 1hers
评论来自
Allakhazam
Drops off Azuregos
评论来自
Allakhazam
ya. its 67.8 dps when you add the +9 enchant. Same damage as doomsaw pretty much but 2.9 speed instead of 3.5 and uber stats with a nice defensive passive. Even more effective with the warrior sword spec (6% chance for free instant extra attack).
This is what it looks like on a tauren warrior.
http://jay.travizel.com/albums/ascent/albtyphoon.jpg
评论来自
Allakhazam
any pld who takes retribution spec seriously wouldn't bat an eye at this sword, it's too fast... i agee the dmg is godly, but it's not a pally sword. And for the record i have pld/warr/hunter toons... i'd rather see a hunter w/ this than a warrior, just cause :P
hunters should roll on this, but fury spec warriors as well.. an arms spec warrior rollin on this is just bein a d!ck... competition will be thick, good luck on your rolls
评论来自
Allakhazam
Its ok that hunters what this items, im sure they wont @#$%^ when the Paladins get tierd of the BS from everyone, put on mail, leather and cloth set items and go full holy build. Its can be worn just as well by them then any other class. If Blizzard didnt want you to wear it, you wouldnt be able too... Stop Crying about people crying, seems you would have better things to spend your time on... as in getting this sword that you seem to want soo much.
Edited, Tue Apr 12 17:14:49 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
im a hunter and i would not roll on this since i don't need that kind of uber melee weapon. i prefer to stand at distance and my guildie-warriors need this more than me :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Warriors with Arms spec should roll for it. Why?
Arms tree has Sword spec, % to get an extra attack + talent where we can increase the damage done with two handed weapons. And then we have Mortal strike
评论来自
Allakhazam
it actually is kinda...the agility is ok but i still think a berserk stance war might do well w/ it too
评论来自
Allakhazam
Killed Azuerogs with my 60 mage(main) and 2x typhoons dropped and only 1 hunter was on so my alt warrior lvl 56 got the second one, was kinda waste of dkp but it should be a good alternative to Ar till I have the mats.
评论来自
Allakhazam
No Hunter Weapon ... 40 Attackpower ... wow ... nothing else what a Hunter Helps to get more damage ... ( Its 1% Parry , not Critical Hit )
评论来自
Beyondfubar
Very fast attack speed, parry, some strength, more agility. Huh, guess this this is for nobody.
Not really sure what blizzard was going for here, but they sure weren't budgeting this things stats to please everyone, or anyone specifically either. I gotta say knowing what we know now, and knowing what is coming, if I had to spend a earned raid monetary unit on this as either a hunter, warrior, or pally... I'd skip it and hold out for a better set of stats on a weapon specifically tuned for me.
评论来自
Darmatterk
The ultimate weeb weapon cannot be cosmetically changed with enchants =/
No green skulls from unholy =(
评论来自
ExtremelyCrusty
What's the proc chance of this bad boy?
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