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Poplocket
While not dripping in stats, these are a nice DPS piece for a combat rogue build, at least until you start getting your MC or ZG class pieces. +2 to hit and +24 AP is no joke.
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169425
I'm looking for orange pieces to match this in a set, any drops anyone knows of would be helpful. AH is always out of armor and guildies don't have recipes for the pieces I want (chimeric/barbaric/masterwork)
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Thottbot
I may be seeing things, but when I saw these on someone yesterday, it said "Increases crit chance 2%" not To Hit. Clarification?
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Thottbot
Just looted from Pyroguard emberseer in UBRS
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Thottbot
anyone got a picture?
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Thottbot
It works surprisinly well I must say, in combination with my barman shanker which makes good use of attack power due to it's speed.
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Thottbot
Since I think rogues are supposed to deal damage, counting 1% crit. worth 2% dodge.
1% hit is worth +0.7% crit. since you're losing the +30% dmg from leathality. Otherwise it's the same than +% crit. You can count a miss to be normal hit, and a normal hit to be a crit.
Since 30 agility gives you +1% crit and +1.5% dodge with +30 attack power (+14 AP = +1dps) I count 25 AP to be worth +0.25% crit. Stamina I consider to be 1.5:1 worth compared to agility. 45 stamina = 30 agility.
30 agility gives 2 value points.
45 stamina gives 2 value points.
Comparison with shoulders:
Stormshroud:
+10 stamina = 0.225 value
+1% crit = 1 value
+1% dodge = 0.5 value
Worth 1.725 points.
Conclusion: balanced offensive-defensive.
Wyrmkin:
+23 agility = ~1.5 value
+10 stamina = 0.225 value
Worth 1.725 points.
Conclusion: devensive shoulders.
Truestrike:
+2% hit = 42 agility ->
+2.9 value from critical chance from 42 agi.
-42 attack power = ~-0.4 value
-~2% dodge = -1 value
+22 attack power = ~+0.225 value
Worth 1.725 points.
Conclusion: offensive shoulders.
All three shoulders are as good, but depends what you're aiming at.
Be free to give me a msg of your thoughts.
Damien, lvl 60 UD Rogue on EU-Bloodscalp.
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Thottbot
Slight typo: It's 24 ATP, not 42.
I got these on my first UBRS run, and boy - was I happy to get rid of the measly looking Nightshade Shoulders.
Truestrike consist of two layers, the above one a bit smaller, and are of a darker yellow with lightbrown borders. Lookin' good with the redish cape from the Honor System (rank2?) and my Devilsaur set. Now just to get rid of this Stormshroud Armor...^^
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Thottbot
their cool ;)
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Thottbot
As a Combat Rogue after 1.8 You should go ATP and +Hit, so these shoulders are just perfect.
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Thottbot
don't plan to pass again. the extra 2% hit is pretty much worth it alone. but I won't complain about the AP, either. crit doesn't mean jack if you can't hit your target, ladies.
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Thottbot
Errr. Crits are calculated first. ie, hit/miss occurs only if you do NOT crit.
Howver, +hit will reduce glancing blows, and reduce misses - both of which are important to DPS. The difference is that a few points of +hit can reduce "glancing blow" significantly, and double your white (auto-attack) damage.
Since autoattacks make up approx 40% of my damage, that's a lot :)
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Thottbot
This guy is in UBRS right?
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Thottbot
To the poster above: Correction: To hit is calculated first then if you do HIT chance for crit is calculated. I base this on the fact that a 100% chance to crit CAN STILL MISS. See Cold Blood ;)
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Thottbot
Just got it on first UBRS run.
Since it was a guild run, I got it. I was very happy cause I got SC belt and eye of rend on the same run!
And I was only level 55!
Now that i'm 56, I'm using these awesome shoulders. limitless value in pvp.
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Thottbot
THESE -
ARE -
NICE!
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Thottbot
Fury warriors need + hit more than any other class in the game, so when noone wanted these, i gave the person who won the greed roll a large brilliant, and took the shoulders...i don't tank, and have no objections to wearing leather
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Thottbot
I picked these up in UBRS yesterday. Nobody else wanted them and they look like they would be great for bear form. I also have
Spaulders of the Unseen, with these stats
129 Armor
+22 Agility
+7 Stamina
+4 Intellect
Durability 60 / 60
Requires Level 56
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=15876/
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The stats for these:
Shoulder Leather
129 Armor
Durability 60 / 60
Requires Level 56
Equip: Improves your chance to hit by 2%.
Equip: +24 Attack Power.
The first is clearly better for cat while these look great for bear. The problem is I usually switch between cat and bear as the situation demands, and wouldn't have time to switch.
I do spend more time in bear, especially in PVP, so I'm leaning towards these. especially when combined with my Eye of Rend,
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=16552/
将军的龙皮护腿 that dropped in the same run. These also look much cooler than the other shoulders.
There is one other similar set of shoulders:
Cyclone Spaulders
129 Armor
+11 Stamina
+11 Intellect
+9 Spirit
Durability 60 / 60
Requires Level 56
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 14.
I would say
Unseen - Cat
Truestrike - Bear
Cyclone - Moonkin
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Thottbot
Sry double post
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Thottbot
Hah, these are great for fury warriors, btw, so NINJA'd...just kidding they were about to get DEed, so i gave the winner a shard, and took em...pwns the hell out of wyrmslayer
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Thottbot
I have a Sub spec Rogue should i use these over Phytoskins?
评论来自
Allakhazam
They look exactly like the shadowcraft shoulders, but brown
评论来自
Allakhazam
Shadowcraft Spaulders:
127 Armor
+22 Agility
+9 Stamina
Truestrike Shoulders:
129 Armor
Requires Level 56
Passive: Improves your chance to hit by 2%.
Passive: +24 Attack Power.
Not much of an AP upgrade from Shadowcraft. You get 2% hit & 2 AP and you lose 90 hp, 1,52% dodge, 0,75% crit and 42 armor.
As a combat rogue, these shoulders would represent a small upgrade in my grinding kit, if it wasn't for the fact that I really like stamina :)
For highend instances (MC/BWL/ZG/AQ) on the other hand, these shoulder are really nice, since the mobs are much higher level than you, and you won't hit as often as normally.
I would, however, pass this to a guildie druid looking for feral gear.
Edited, Mon Jan 9 19:06:16 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
These are good PvE shoulders since they upgrade your chance to hit, increasing your white damage. The AP is also more than any other shoulders. Not so good for PvP howerver, since you lose crit and dodge chance.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i lost these to a *!@#ing druid! DRUID! AAAAARGH! I NEED TO WEAR MY FLESHHIDE SHOULDERS! CRAPPPP!
评论来自
Allakhazam
if no rogues need this would be good for fury war
评论来自
Allakhazam
Can someone please post a picture of this baby?
Rogue armour..definately rogue armour
评论来自
Allakhazam
Here's a picture:
http://www.directupload.net/show/d/605/FVJmB6Df.jpg
Excellent shoulders btw.
Edited, Sat Feb 11 16:09:20 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
yes i agree that this would be better for a rogue. but I would allso allow druids to roll on this baby
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