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评论来自
639
If you stand too close to a wall, or ceiling, or whatever you might not be able to get out off when consuming this, WoW makes sure you won't get stuck by immediately removing the buff and decreasing your size again. To make sure you don't lose one of these to the game design like that, make sure you're always standing in an open area when using the Firewater.
评论来自
zappa
Winterfall firewater does stack with all melee potions and elixirs
评论来自
60735
This is both melee AND range attack power, so great for hunters too.
评论来自
Ginkan
I honestly still grab these whenever I decide to go visit Winterspring to help out pre-BC guildies. It's not very much attack power, but these stacked with other size-increasing potions/abilities/spells can make you incredibly menacing. Being a Tauren, I can get to maybe 4-5x as large as a human and with my present gear, I look like a harbinger of death and destruction in BGs :). My main problem nowadays is just getting into bunkers / buildings with those buffs on though, haha.
评论来自
Gnomey
this is very cool to have as a gnome, get exalted with exodar, get their mount, drink this, get a shammy to cast heroism, HUGE!!!
评论来自
115795
I found that bulwark of kings
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=28484
also enlarges you for a short time (15 seconds) and is stackable with firewater
评论来自
105498
this is actually quite funny,because "Firewater" is slang for bong water,or as a reference to strong alcohol
评论来自
Aelok
First off, kinda stupid it only effects melee attack power if thats true, and secondly it needs to specify!
Ugh, they hate on ranged attacks too much. We get lame a-- scopes when melee gets mongoose/fire/ice/etc.
评论来自
106166
Taurens using this while riding kodos - Do not expect to be able to run in doors to autodismount. You'll have to dismount manually to enter most doors when you're that big.
评论来自
32144
In terms of mount size, kissing Mojo from ZA will increase your mounts size if u kiss it while mounted.
评论来自
64664
This increased has actually a (minor) disadvantage. You can not enter buildings that are very small.
For example in Zangarmarsh where the Sporeggar live, there are buildings with questgivers inside, you can not enter or leave these buildings unless ya disable to potion.
It maybe wouldn't matter for smaller races (gnomes, dwarves), but i certainly wasn't able to enter one as a Night Elf.
评论来自
FarseerLolotea
For an idea as to the approximate size increase, take note of the shaman's height in relation to Prophet Velen in this
composite image
.
评论来自
148546
Funny little pot this =)
All of you who wanna show off in Orgrimmar at an enormous size go to Sen'jin village in southern Durotar, and talk to the Witch doctor in training, Bom'bay. He does random buffs and hexex on you. You could get a hex on you, turning you into a snake, sheep or frog, this is removable, a friendly "buff". You could also get drunk as hell, "Completely smashed". But, he also has a buff called Grow with a 5 min duration, this does stack with the Firewater and also with Elixir of Giant Growth.
If you're a Shammy, Blood Fury stacks on top of all of these! You'll be bigger than Onyxia =)
Rathgor, Twilights Hammer (Europe)
评论来自
Highscore
There is a trick to the grow buff as well
If you log out one you get it and log back in you can pick it up a seconds time and it will stack with this pot and the first grow, as well as bloodlust. Still looking for other things to make me even bigger
评论来自
Roothroo
As an engineer, I did some exeperimentation to see how big of an Ornithopter (epic flying mount) I could make in Shattrath.
EDIT: updates are posted
at this forum post on Wowhead
.
If you're an engineer, you can use a transporter to possibly get a size buff (seems like about a 5% chance). There are 3 growth buffs: Split-Soul: Good {you're also golden and translucent}, Split-Soul: Evil {you're red and translucent}, and Enlarge {you feel somehow larger}. I've confirmed that at least two of them stack with each other (the two split-soul effects) and they stack with Elixir of Giant Growth, Heroism/Bloodlust, and of course, Mojo. The 3rd one probably also stacks, but getting 3 of them going at once is proving difficult, especially considering there's also a possible shrink effect.
Unfortunately, I was doing this experiment with my Alliance character, so I cannot get Bom'bay's growth effect. The character is also a hunter, which means I can't use the
Bulwark of Kings
.
Reviewing current list of
stackable
growth buffs, using ModScales from
WowHead
, which are given as % increases (ModScale 30 = 30% = 1.3x size):
(20m) (ModScale 25)
Elixir of Giant Growth
(or
Winterfall Firewater
)
(2m) (ModScale 30)
Heroism
/
Bloodlust
(shaman totem)
(5m) (ModScale 50?)
Bom'bay's Grow buff
(horde only) -- can be doubled with a logout
(15sec) (ModScale 30)
Bulwark of Kings
(for plate-wearers) or Winterfall Firewater spell (via spell-steal)
(1hr ea) (ModScale 20) 2x
Split-soul
and 1x Enlarge (?) effect from transporter items (engineer only)
(20m) (ModScale 30) 1x
Larger and Oranger
from Hallow's End Candy (only during Hallow's End event)
(15sec) /kiss Mojo (a pseudo-buff for your mount, since it sizes to maintain a constant height, which makes it much larger when you turn into a frog)
(2m) General's Warcry, from AV BG -- almost not worth mentioning, since the queues can be longer than the other buffs, and you might not get the Warcry; but it does stack with Elixir of Giant Growth. If you had everything else going into AV, you wouldn't make it out of the cave anyway, so this is only here for completeness. Bom'bay's growth buff would likely not last long enough to get the first Warcry (especially considering queue time).
(12 sec) (ModScale 150)
The Chosen One
-- You get this while fighting Terokk, about 15 seconds in, if you have the highest threat. It does stack with Elixir of Giant Strength (but I wasn't quick enough to SS the proof -- very short duration on this one).
(15 sec) (ModScale 35) Growth Ray (
unconfirmed
: from a charmed/possessed Sunseeker Engineer)
(?) Magister's Terrace boss effect (pending research)
Using only effects 1-6 with no doubling, you'd be at least 4.91x normal size (3.27x for Alliance). With all three transporter effects and two Bom'bay effects, you'd be at least 12.43x normal size (5.52x for Alliance). If you happen to time it right with a Terokk fight (and as a plate wearer, odds are good you're able to hold the aggro to get the buff), the Chosen One buff will make you ridiculously huge (an additional 2.5x, so roughly 31x for horde, 13.8x for alliance) for a dozen seconds.
So, it seems that in order to get as large as is hordely possible, you need to be a lvl 70 male Tauren engineer who wears plate (warrior or paladin or Death Knight).
Note: even if you're not a Tauren male, the largest PC, one of the transporter effects you can get turns you into a random PC race of either side (sometimes changes when you cross continents/worlds/instance barriers). So it's still remotely possible you could max out your size by randomly turning into a male Tauren. As another consideration, there's a trinket that Terokk drops that can turn you into one of 3 models of Arakokra (sp?), which are about as big as male Tauren, maybe a little bigger even.
评论来自
281529
I can confirm that you become as tall as the elites in any city (like Sylvanas or Thrall)
评论来自
111622
The Norenfogger Elixer will not make you normal size again. You'll still be smaller.
评论来自
deffar
Nice potion for Showoff :)
评论来自
256454
Here is a list of growth effects - these used to stack but were disabled around patch 3.1 to only reflect one growth buff at most:
Grow
(repeatable buff from short Horde questline)
Elixir of Giant Growth
- or -
Winterfall Firewater
- Elixir effect is amplified by
Mixology
for all alchemists. (Thanks Asmodoues!)
Gigantic Feast
Bloodlust
/
Heroism
Mojo
:
/kiss
while mounted
(Edit: this has been
"
fixed
™ "
and does not work anymore)
Edit: it appears that
Transporter Malfunction
from the engineering trinket
Ultrasafe Transporter: Toshley's Station
will stack with the others. I'm not sure why these stack but the others don't.
评论来自
Jamzo
I tryed today, Gigantic Feast and Winterfall Firewater do not stack anymore.
评论来自
386896
i haven't been able to test this, but perhaps it stacks with the iron boot flask, which also increases size, though it turns you into an iron dwarf, which is, on average, the height of a tauren. maybe slightly shorter.
评论来自
Soother
I can confirm that this potion and Bloodlust still do stack.
评论来自
348471
Ive noticed that the droprate is much higher than 6%... ive killed 10 and gotten 7 firewaters, but before i completed the deadwood quest and became unfriendly i got 0 and i had probably killed around 40... i dont know if its terrible luck for me or if you need to complete the deadwood quest and start the Winterfall followup
评论来自
422867
i dont get it, with this pot is says increases attack power by 35, so it increases my ranged attack power by 35 (im a hunter) BUT when i get the "well fed" buff from clamlette surprise, i hav no ranged attack power increase, is this a bug?
评论来自
killerdinoblood
DRUGS!THESE THINGS ARE DRUGS!
评论来自
565604
if you want to look like the biggest thing in the world, then use every size increasing thing on you, and get a buddy to use a noggen elixer to get small and stand next to you.
评论来自
432232
The screenshots here are relatively puny compared to what I witnessed in Orgrimmar. I'll attach the screenshot I took a few weeks ago.
I'm not sure what the buff(s) was, but it made the person vomit green fluid.
(edit 11/17/2010). Screenshot still not posted. Here is a direct link:
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n120/jim2374/BigVealot.jpg
评论来自
745747
Since the release of Cataclysm, I can safely say with 99% certainty that
Winterfall Firewater
no longer drops from the listed mobs, after killing over 1000 Furbolgs and 0 drops.
I only have 1 left and will leave it in my bank as a keepsake, unless Blizzard decide to reintroduce these wonderful elixirs. Alternatively people can use
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=6662#comments
instead, although not as big as Winterfall Firewater.
评论来自
376863
Bigger then this?--->
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/user=goneguy#screenshots:id=184587
Edit 3/7/11 : ALSO did the quest line after GM told me "it will drop if you do the quest line again, we simply reset all the quests after cataclysm".....DID NOT WORK still doesnt drop, neither does dire brew.....blizz can sure fu-ck sh-it up
评论来自
344605
Should be kept away from gnomes and kids.
评论来自
Syllion
Anyone know if you can still get that item ?
评论来自
734641
I was Suprized to find 3Winterfall fire water for 9gold and 7more for 20gold in AH in patch 4.3 cata, somone must have saved them, ill save them and sell them for 100gold each in a few months :D(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##asakawa##DELIM##Please don't spam up these threads with comments about random quests and if you want to alter or update a previously posted comment use the edit button. Thanks.
评论来自
ewalcacer
I just got a confirmation from a GM, saying that "the mobs were removed with the shattering of the world".
Mobs are still arround but they won't drop it anymore. I had to open a ticket since I couldn't find solid information. Farmed for mover an hour while had the ticket on, no elixir.
评论来自
Meatbunz
I can confirm that in 4.3 Winterfall Firewater drops, dropped from the furbogs to the west of Winterspring
评论来自
Codkiller
yep, dropped for me to day on High Chief winterfall
评论来自
Pratham
Just picked up the staff from Madness on my druid, went out in search of this to see how big I could get. I got one to drop after only a few kills. Many kills later I still only had the one, but I did get one! :D
评论来自
mrogue
As of this writing, one dropped.
I did all the quests in Winterspring in 4.1 or 4.2, none dropped. Now in 4.3, I had one drop. So it seems Blizzard was alerted of this and they fixed it. Though it is kinda redundant now with the availability of Darkmoon potions...
评论来自
353690
Well just adding to the item factoid to date, I got one on my lvl 53 priest doing quests in winter spring, it was probably of an questline but, I didn't catch which gave it to me,,,, I do have it in my inventory though and it is not soulbound. So the only thing I can think of is, if you guys have a bunch of lvl 50's that haven't done the WS Quest chains, and want this on a main or something, this might help you get them.
评论来自
644686
As far as I can make out,
冬泉酋长
is currently the only NPC to drop this. He has the same model as the other white furbolgs around him, so people are easily mistaking it for a low drop rate, when in actual fact it is unique to him.
I have been farming him 20 minutes now, and it appears to be a 100% drop rate with a respawn timer of ~1:03.
This being said, a small plea; PLEASE take other players into consideration when farming him. He is a quest mob, so if you see a lower level player hanging around, let them complete the objective by slaying him. I was debating posting this information here for this reason alone, so please just be respectful to other players. /end moan.
Happy farming all! ;)
Edit: Not to start a flame war, but people claiming it drops off ANY furbolg mob: are you 100% sure you haven't just killed the highchief? As mentioned, he stands in the camp with the others, blends in very well and has a fast respawn time. Quite possibly you just looted it from him and didn't realise.
评论来自
Ixui
For anyone wondering,
Darkmoon Firewater
and
Winterfall Firewater
do NOT stack. The buffs overide one another.
评论来自
Thottbot
# Attack power increases your base melee DPS by 1 for every 14 attack power.
# Strength increases your melee attack power by 2, except for rogues and Hunters. Rogues and Hunters gain 1 attack power per point of Strength, and 1 per point of Agility.
评论来自
Thottbot
it drops from the furborgs in winterspring, the ones that are directly north when you enter winterspring from felwood. maybe those a bit south east too, not sure, but had several drops from thos ein the north.
评论来自
Thottbot
Probably Blessing of Might, since that's a straight attack power buff.
评论来自
Thottbot
Maybe I'm paranoid, but I think my mount steals a swig when I drink this!
评论来自
Thottbot
Last night i combined Winterfall Firewater, Bom'bay's grow buff, and berserkering from WSG to get so huge that i couldnt fit through the door which held the berserking buff after i grabbed it!
评论来自
Thottbot
i have been farming these for about a week no on and off but all of a sudden they have stopped dropping? any ideas?
评论来自
Thottbot
I killed maybe 30-35 of the Winterfall furbolgs last night (10/20/06) and got 4 Winterfall Firewaters.
评论来自
Thottbot
These consumables now work for Ranged Attack Power (RAP). Pretty nice for Hunter's now.
评论来自
Thottbot
Pretty sure it's been heavily nerfed... still Chief Winterfall seems to have a guaranteed drop rate from what I can see...
评论来自
Thottbot
I see no one has yet to post a suggested sell price, and seeming as there were none on AH when I posted them, I put them up for only 50s each.
They sold fairly quick and when I went to post some more, a couple other ppl had some posted for 1g each.
Conclusion: the standard price seems to be 1g and seems as +35AP is a pretty nice buff, it's worth every copper. Farming these and selling them could be fairly profitable.
-Vermicious
评论来自
Thottbot
The chief is a great source for the firewater. Get one almost every kill. At 70 you will be able to get a stack every 10 minutes I would say.
评论来自
Thottbot
On realm Medivh theres not one single elixir of giant growth, =(, gotta be the rarest item on my realm, looks like to be a giant moonkin i depend on this potion and AV buff same time =)
lol
评论来自
Thottbot
Tip: if you are a mage, most of the Winterfall Furbolgs got a Buff named Winterfall Firewater Which has the exact same buff as this item, try spellstealing it and use this item, they stack! so you become MUCH bigger!
You will probably get even bigger with heroism/Bloodlust by a shaman, and the AV buff.
评论来自
Thottbot
The Evil and Light Debuff from the "Toshley's Station Teleporter" Item (engineers only) also make you big (like the "you feel larger" debuff from the same item) and all of those debuffs stack with growth potions AND the hallow's end candy so you can be really REALLY big. I wonder f u can stack all 3 debuffs drink a potion and then go to AV and wait for the Buff that you randomly get that makes you big.... :P
We're talking city sized here! :D
评论来自
Thottbot
Hallows end Candy doesn't stack with elixir of giant growth, which in turn doesn't stack with firewater, since both the elixir and firewater are now battle elixirs.
评论来自
Thottbot
Planing on getting this, growth potion, heroism, and getting the AV buff then mounting on my elekk... If you saw a 40 foot shaman what would you do...
Edit - I found out after trying it that the firewater and growth potion don't stack =S I posted a screenshot of me in IF with a growth pot and heroism... and yea... thats a human under me not a gnome...
评论来自
Thottbot
I don't know why, but it seems like that High Chief Winterfall guy has a 100% drop rate of this stuff. I've killed him 4-5 times in a row, and he dropped the Firewater each time. Either I'm incredibly lucky, or else that drop rate is wrong.
评论来自
Thottbot
High Chief Winterfall got 100% droprate for this potion. Located at cave 69.38
评论来自
Thottbot
I used Beastial Wrath and this almost Kodo sized imagine this Beastial Wrath, Bombay, and the Horde AV that makes you double sized!
评论来自
Thottbot
they drop much better (in my case) around Timbermaw Post (~40, 43)
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm saving up some stuff to try to get really big.
Winterfall Firewater
Elekk Mount
Warsong Gulch Berserking
Heroism
Engineering Transporter Debuff (makes you "feel bigger")
I'll post how it goes later.
评论来自
Thottbot
If You're Just trying to get the buff for messing around purposes, it's way easier and cheaper to just get Giant Growth Elixir.
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=6662/
增长药剂
Btw, gnome on an elekk with this and heroism is...well just silly huge.
评论来自
Thottbot
This area is an untapped resource. The drop rate sucks, true, but with diligence, you will get it. In the meantime, they also drop healing potions, Runecloth, and some good Blacksmithing plans. And thats just what I've found so far. Also, you slowly but surely are building up reputastion with the Timbermaw. Oh yeah, and they drop a few quest items, one which may ultimately lead you to a greater source of this item. DEFINITELY worth spending some grinding time at.
评论来自
Thottbot
can this be bought in th AH?
评论来自
Allakhazam
As i'm working on my wintersaber i have stacks and stacks of these. However, as of 1.10 the droprate seemed to be severely nerfed. Having done a grinding pass that would normally have given me 3-4 stacks of these, i ended up with 5. Five. Half a stack. Yay.
评论来自
Allakhazam
there's a rumor going around tht the ferb's can grow.
supposedly if you kill a ferb before he "grows", as in uses his firewater, there is a 100% chance in getting a firewater....any1 know if this is true? i myself have attempted to kill ferbs VERY quick with my imp evisc and cb combo and have gotten them about 50% everytime i used the cb combo
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have confirmed that this does stack with the
Elixir of Giant Growth
.
Edited, Wed Jun 22 14:55:40 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
used these with the pumpkins from hallows eve made me HUGE the one that says "you feel bigger, and oranger" got some cool screens, couldnt walk into/out of doors
评论来自
Allakhazam
Handy lil things, and they even stack with the size modifier from the Shrink ray's growth backfire!
I'm gonna test and see if it stacks with Giant Growth elixir too. Once I'm able to get a hold of some.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got 2 last night about 20min apart.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Not any more, apparently. Tested today.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i used today like i do all the time when i get them while farming for timbermaw rep, and i realized it didn't make my ranged atk power go up! im a hunter, and all this time I thought these were helping me they have no real benefit to me at all. I have used thousands of these before, because I've farmed so much timbermaw rep in winterspring, and all this time I should have just been selling them... what a waste. but maybe, they dont work because I have reached a maximum cap on ranged atk power? my atk power is 850 even, so maybe thats why... i dont know tho.
评论来自
shibbyfoo
What are the pants in the first screenshot?
评论来自
Lilbolt
This has got to have alot less drop chance than what is stated. 19 E'ko so far and no firewater.
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