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评论来自
Contay
After the 2.3 patch, these pants have become absolutely amazing! Definitely recommend these to any Hunter or Enhancement Shaman that are able to get to go to BRD.
He's relatively close to the entrance too, so it's possible to farm this guy. You just have to be careful getting there, or else do the Arena event first.
评论来自
99256
Just got these beauties, but have yet to test them out. Went through the instance twice in the day, and they dropped on the second time.
评论来自
Shivacode
The old pants were great, although outclassed by the Dragonscale LW pants.
The new ones, however, blow those pants away in terms of raw stats and AP.
评论来自
89984
Got these on my hunter today. I will probably use them until I hit outland, and probably after that. These are really nice since 2.3.
评论来自
71042
Prob going to be the twinks choice of leggings when the leg kits are removed. All out hunters/shammies are getting them preemptively.
评论来自
43530
Thanks to talent changes in 3.0, these legs are VERY good for Hunters and Enhance Shaman.
Both classes have talents to make 1 Int also grant 1 AP. Also, shaman now get 1 AP per Agi (Hunters since 2.0 have had this conversion).
So on top of the 20 AP equip bonus, you get another 26 from the Agi/Int found on these.
评论来自
Thottbot
This are pretty nice Onyxia/Molten Core pants for shaman. If you want some fire rez
评论来自
Thottbot
then find me mail leggings with just as much FR, or more.... that also have int, spi, and if possible stam.
these are fine.
评论来自
Thottbot
These aren't good shaman pants, yes the have int(which hunters use) but if a shaman is doing anything beside certain portions of mc he would never be wearing these pants, The only thing these would be any good for to a real extent is a rag fight, where really stats don't matter as much as fire resists because all damage comes from fire on this fight, a hunter would be able to use these just as much as a shaman in fire fights like that, so don't try to say a lvl 54 needs them for mc and don't try to say that these are good shaman pants because for every other reason they suck ass for hunters and shamans. That is why they are easily hunter/shaman pants and they only serve for one short goal.
评论来自
Thottbot
UPDATED 4/7/06:
Stats have changed as of the 1.10 patch. Had a huge comment here before and am now editing it so it's not entirely obsolete.
My main two observations (lack of farmability and poor hunter stats) were directly addressed by the new stats, as Loregrain
seems
to no longer be a rare spawn and the item now has great Hunter stats (while remaining useful for Shamans...and presumably Paladins too.) I make this assumption based on little evidence: (a) there are a lot of entries for a non-rare Loregrain in Thottbot and (b) the one BRD run I've done in 1.10, Loregrain was there.
评论来自
Thottbot
As mentioned the FR makes it viable for any mail user, shammy or hunter. Since only BWL offer better pants, the agility is just hunter gravy. Same for shammys who "can get" better from Rag too.. easy call (shammy and/or hunter), just no bickering on Alli side.
评论来自
Thottbot
These are hunter leggings but they are also great for an enhancement spec shammy mainlt because of the stamina and agility. Without stamina and agility Enhancement shammys are nothing and the intl helps shammys much more then hunters. I would say that they would benefit a shaman a bit more but it is justifiable for both to roll.
评论来自
Thottbot
hrm, this is an odd post...
"Without stamina and agility Enhancement shammys are nothing and the intl helps shammys much more then hunters."
first of all, hunts need agil way more than enhance shams, and secondly, its hard to find good pants that give good agil and int, so hunts dont get alot of int. they are pretty good if it gives decent agil and int, so i think these are hunt pants ftw
评论来自
Thottbot
As said above, Shammy's mostly heal in MC. Shammies have almost no use for agility out of any class besides mages/locks/priests. Hunters should have priority for these. But, hunters can also easily find way better pants than these. Beaststalker's drop the most of any armor set from Baron Rivendare in Stratholme. These pants are nothing but a tide-over for better pants.
Allyougot
Level 60 hunter
Dragonblight
评论来自
Thottbot
This argument has probly been made a hundred times already but here comes my part. As far as who needs these pants more, id say shaman over hunters simply because shaman need the mana more. Shaman are the most mana inefficient class in the game, so you combine the fact that these have stam and agil, which both classes need with int and spirit, which benefit a shaman much more than a hunter, they make these awesome for an enhancement shaman.
评论来自
Thottbot
Because of FR all mail classes have the same prio over this pants.
评论来自
Thottbot
The pants are mail. thusly the potentoal people that can use these pants are avalible to:
Hunters Primary
Shamans Primary
Paladins Secondary (If they are hurting for FR)
Warriors Secondary (If they are hurting for FR)
How do you know that shamans are primaraly healing? same with Palys?
Warriors an palys should be looking for plate pants but they can use these too.
Get over yourselfs there are four classes that can potentoly use this set of pants it has usefull stats for all of them.
评论来自
Thottbot
well ive havent really played a shammy very far but i have a hunter and without goot agility and int there worthless. The stamina and spirit help but these r good leggings to get as a placement before the beaststalker set.
评论来自
Thottbot
these r shammy leggings! people say 'theres the agility for hunters' but all the others stats are of more use to shamans.
its obvious to see! blind people -.-
评论来自
Thottbot
I have a 60 hunter and a 58 shammy, and I just picked these pants up last night during my MC attunement.
They were better than my old pants, and they also had FR. The stats make em good for PVP or PVE.
I'd roll on these on either of my chars, the stats are for both classes.
评论来自
Thottbot
Alright I have a 58 hunter and a 57 shammy. This is a big hunter priority for MC same for Shammy. All those who say these are better for shammy need to try a survival hunter with some marksman beacause STAM,AGI,and INT are all really needed PvP and PvE wise. Shammy stats are great too but i say that these pants are equaly needed for each class.
评论来自
Thottbot
I am a 60 survival Hunter on Alliance and I know that these are Hunter/Shaman Pants, I'm on Alliance, so dont give a #$%^ but I know that Fire resistance gets first priority and those other stats are mostly hunter, that spirt makes it somewhat shaman, and that agility makes it somewhat Hunter. Thats my comment
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Thottbot
"Heh was just in a semi-PUG where 3 of the folks were in the same guild. These dropped and, first of all, they all yelled to pass (which is dumb if anyone needs; encourages ninjas). Second of all, they then all yelled that their level 60 hunter needed these. We rolled and the level 60 hunter beat out my level 54 shaman for these. No AC, no agility... are these really hunter pants? "
nab.... encourages ninjas?...just the sight of blue/purple drops encourages ninjas. These are SHAMAN/HUNTER Legs...and im gonna grind em...with 200x Invis pots i should be able to sneak thru to the pyromancer...so far 18% chance ><
wish me luck :)
and GL to you folks!
评论来自
Thottbot
ok this argument is really long but id have to say hunter>shaman. 1st im on alliance. 2nd its hard to find agl+int on chain pants.....im sure a shammy would luv them long time also though....i dunno.
评论来自
Thottbot
I didn't know this guy was a rare spawn! I let my group DE these because I had leggings with more agility and thought that I'd have black dragonscales leggings for FR gear at 60. I still got a couple of levels to get the black dragonscale, but i think these would have been a lot cheaper.
评论来自
Thottbot
All you guys who think hunters don't need int have obviously never played a hunter. These are without a doubt hunter pants and I would blacklist any shammy who rolled need on them if a hunter was in the party and wanted them.
评论来自
Thottbot
Do you know what agility does?
Adds crit chance (and armor, but w/e).
Do you know what happens when an enhancement shaman crits?
Everyone around the sham gets a very nice attack power bonus.
I'm not going to say that I know if hunters have something similar, but please don't automatically decide that shams don't need this. In my current build I'm stacking agility and stamina. I have 20%+ crit chance after a grace of air totem and have been putting up damage numbers just below mages in instances. These are VERY useful to shamans.
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok...these are deff hunter pants cause its sometimes hard to decide to buy of the eagle stuff or of the monkey, these are int stam and agility. great for hunters
评论来自
Thottbot
On my hunter I'll kill for anything that gives decent buffs to agility stamina AND intellect, definetely hunter pants
评论来自
Thottbot
You people cannot read can you? These are equally good for both classes. If you think otherwise you do not know both of the classes at all
评论来自
Thottbot
So many hunters these days...none of you understand other classes, do you?
i would say that shamans have a slight lead to have these, shamans use WAY more mana in a fight than a hunter would, so the mp5 and ap definitely fit more towards an enhancement shammy.
just use your damn pets and shutup.
评论来自
Thottbot
All I want to know is were to get them at. Who drops them?
评论来自
Thottbot
All I want to know is were to get them at. Who drops them?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Great for a hunter or shammy. Pretty even
评论来自
Allakhazam
all your pants are belong to us!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got them this weekend and damn I love em! ^^
I changed them out with the Infernal Trickster Leggings that drops in Maraudon :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got Em Tonight :) Took off my Trickster Leggings for them as well xD The other hunter was nice and passed on em since i hadn't won anything the entire BRD run lol
Edited, Jul 3rd 2006 at 12:03am EDT by DigiDude
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