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评论来自
SaxxonPike
This set is ideal for rogues all around. Despite the lack of agility on the gear, you will find that the attack power and critical strike rating makes up for this shortcoming. You'll only be missing out on Dodge rate, although you probably won't care much if you PvP: over half the classes in the game deal magic and/or ranged damage that isn't affected by it anyway.
It's great to see that the set itself grants 1490 hit points and the equivalent of 410 attack power. It will also bring up your critical strike by approximately 7.5% from the rating and agility bonus. It's also got the equivalent of +5.4% to hit.
Definitely a set to look out for.
评论来自
8271
Very nice gear ive seen them b4 i dueled one with full set on my 60 pally and i got owned. but that was b4 the patch that made pallys own ^^
评论来自
11682
Not counting the amount of resilience your enemy players will have, reducing our chance to crit to a M i n i m u m.
Skin is nice tho...compared to T5:)
评论来自
Reanna
Your agility/crit calculations are incorrect.. at level 60, a rogue needs 25 agility for 1% crit. At level 70, a rogue needs 40 agility for 1% crit.
评论来自
h0pe
Rather annoying that none of the set bonuses on the new tiers have any Envenom buffs.
评论来自
21452
Refering to H0pe's last comment:
As a mather of fact T5 does have a envenom bonus...
Link:
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/itemset=622
评论来自
h0pe
Zhift, waiting untill our end set for a bonus on our most deadly attack is quite bad. This is what i'm pointing out that we should have gotten a Envenom buff on our other sets, seeing as it out damages Evis' within a PVE enviroment.
评论来自
Urahara
For those of you who are fashion-conscious, here are the "matching" bracers, belt, and boots to this set, as best as I can discern.
Bracers of Maliciousness
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=28514
(Maiden of Virtue)
Girdle of Treachery
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=28750
(Chess Event)
Rapscallion Boots
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=28669
(Shade of Aran)
评论来自
xer0trigger
Does the 4pc set bonus stack with Ruthlessness?
评论来自
59139
this is good but looks weird its good until you get better epics, which may not happen until SSC and by then we'd have tier 5 along
评论来自
Hiddenkiller
It's also worth noting that the 2-piece bonus scales with Imp SnD.
评论来自
Anakaris
Chest = Magtheridon
Head = Prince Malchezaar
Hands = Curator
Legs = Gruul the Dragonkiller
Shoulders = High King Maulgar
评论来自
111146
It sucks how this set has a lower item level by 3 than the s1 glad set and s1 is super easy to get compared to this set. Although i would not want to pvp with this set or pve with s1
im just saying this set needs more budget for stats
评论来自
120165
Is it just me, or do the Gladiator's PvP gloves seem better than Netherblade gloves?
评论来自
73830
gotta disagree.. a 5point evis is gonna be a 900-1.1k without a crit or at max a 2.3k with a crit, envenom is gonna be a huge hitter even with a small amount of posion on the target
评论来自
FinnrSlayer
Tier 4 For Dummies!(Where they drop)
Head Piece - Karazhan - Prince Malchezaar
Gloves Piece - Karazhan - The Curator
Shoulders Piece - Gruul's Lair - High King Maulgar
Leggings Piece - Gruul's Lair - Gruul The Dragonkiller
Chest Piece - Magtheridon's Lair - Magtheridon
______ of The Fallen Champion - Shaman - Rogue - Paladin
______ of The Fallen Defender - Druid - Warrior - Priest
______ of The Fallen Hero - Warlock - Hunter - Mage
Curator/Prince Malchezaar drops 1 of above
High King Maulgar/Gruul/Magtheridon drops 3 of above, totally random
You can exchange the Tokens to gear at aldor/scryers tier in shattrath city
评论来自
582434
All tiers have look alikes like bloodfang have a black and blue version idk if all tiers for other classes have matches but it seems so. A dk can come up to u in a golden version of nightslayer
评论来自
ArashikageClan
Current stats in Cata compared to live:
Cata
Agi: 175
Stam: 190
Armor: 2,660
Crit: 25
Hit: 81
Live
Agi: 126
Stam: 190
Armor: 1,540
AP: 360
Crit: 25
Hit: 81
Same sockets for both
So overall, that's: +49 Agi, +0 Stam, +1,120 armor, -360 AP, +0 crit, +0 hit
With 1 agi = 2 ap, the set now has 350 ap
edit: It would seem according to the talent calculators on the cata pages that a mastery ability will be learned at level 80 (hover over the mastery ability and it will say learn from trainer at level 80). This means that old gear will most likely not be seeing mastery rating, not sure on current 80 stuff though. Hopefully these sets remain relevant for old raiders.
edit edit: My math was a bit off.
Overall you are losing 10 ap from the agi conversion, meaning the set is still nerfed a bit. This should allow for capped account chars to still gem for hit and raid properly, the only question still is a balance without mastery rating.
Actually, looking at the changes further, originally the set would have had 126 agi = 126 ap + 360 ap = 486 ap, meaning with the conversion the set actually lost 486 - (175*2) = 136 ap. So again, a somewhat large nerf to the set not accounting for the extra crit gained from the extra 49 agility.
评论来自
feanorris
Was looking for quite some time for cloak that will match this set and finally found this, on my opinion, as a most appropriate one (it would be a perfect match if it was greenish diamond like ornaments on it where the blue ones are) :
Cloak:
Winding Sheet
, droped by
Rotface
in 25 man ICC
View in 3D
ps.
if possible take preview using Java, Flash make cloak a bit transparent and look rather bad
评论来自
Thottbot
Knowing blizz... i'd say no they wont stack. 3 cheers for bugs/bullsh*t!
Meh i'm just being pesimistic but i seriously doubt they stack. Testing would be required but how to be sure?
评论来自
Thottbot
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/npc=1058899
droped for me lastnight got the gloves in karazhan from the Curator
评论来自
Thottbot
I think these boots go with it. With the look anyways :P
http://www.thotbott.com/?i=59995
评论来自
Thottbot
Token Drops for t4:
1. Gloves
Curator (5. Boss in Kara)
2. Head
Prince Malchezaar (2nd Last Boss in Kara)
3. Shoulder
Maulgar (1. Boss Gruuls Lair)
4. Leggings
Gruul
5. Chest
Magtheridon
评论来自
Thottbot
So I guess the so-called tokens used to 'purchase' this set are other gear dropped by raid bosses. When hovering mouse over the cost of netherguard set, it would list another totally different piece of gear.
评论来自
Thottbot
nah i think it looks spiffy... kinda like a super hero..ROFL
评论来自
Thottbot
taking a quick look at stat totals of netherlade and assasination sets:
Assassination / Netherblade / upgrade
Agility: 118 / 108 (-10)
Stamina: 128 / 164 (+36)
AP(w/o agi): 256 / 320 (+64)
To Crit: 25 / 21 (-4)
To Hit: 39 / 53 (+14)
Armor: 1187 / 1354 (+167)
total upgrade: +36 stam, +54 ap, +14 hit, +167 armor.
Sockets: same number, some different colors, socket bonuses are a little better in netherblade: 4agi+4agi+4stam vs 4dodge+4dodge+4stam.
In theory, I'd say that anyone who doesn't have the time for raiding(or doesnt want to raid) can just slap some basic enchants on some pieces of their gear and have an 'epic' set by simply doing basic non-heroic dungeons. Looking at the set bonuses, Assasination's 25 energy envenoms and eviscerates seem a lot better.
I've heard that Blizz maybe buffing all raid sets soon though.
EDIT: Comparison not valid after most epic items and all raid sets were buffed.
评论来自
Thottbot
based on the above this "epic" gear is not much better than the assasination set, i think that blizz #$%^ed up big.....
评论来自
Thottbot
As a combat sword rogue, the 2 set bonus on this is great for me, an extra 3 seconds on SnD makes it a load easier to get a full 5 combo point eviscerate/envenom between refreshing SnD
Unlike the 2 set on Assasination which most bosses are immune to cheapshot and kidney shot
Yes the 4 set isn't as good as Assasinations, but for me taking the pair of bonuses on each set together, (for PvE) I'd take this one thanks.
评论来自
Thottbot
This is just one example of many of how Blizz does not put the appropriate stats on items. Just take the Primal Intent set for example: all attack power, agi and stam. No increased hit and no increased crit stats at all. This is set is supposed to be end-game and for PvE. Not even any sockets on it to throw on the +hit/crit gems...nothing.
It's all outta whack I tell ya.
评论来自
Thottbot
Just wondering if the 4 item bonus is actually a different percentage then the one gained through Ruthlessness.
What I mean by that is that does the percentage to gain a combo point after a finishing move become 75% if you have Ruthlessness 3/3 or do you now have 60% of gaining a combo point and another 15% to gain another combo point ?
评论来自
Thottbot
It looks very ugly
评论来自
Thottbot
Does anyone know how they calculate the total Slice and Dice duration if you have 2/5 of this set and 3/3 Improved Slice and Dice? Does the extra three seconds get added in before the Imp S&D; or after?
Ex.
Before:
1cp: (9+3)*1.45 = 17.4
2cp: (12+3)*1.45 = 21.75
3cp: (15+3)*1.45 = 26.1
4cp: (18+3)*1.45 = 30.45
5cp: (21+3)*1.45 = 34.8
After:
1cp: 9*1.45+3 = 16.05
2cp: 12*1.45+3 = 20.4
3cp: 15*1.45+3 = 24.75
4cp: 18*1.45+3 = 29.1
5cp: 21*1.45+3 = 33.45
The difference isn't huge (1.35 seconds more in each case) but I was just curious.
评论来自
Thottbot
Assassination / Netherblade / upgrade
Agility: 118 / 126 (+8)
Stamina: 128 / 190 (+52)
AP(w/o agi): 256 / 360 (+104)
To Crit: 25 / 75 (+50)
To Hit: 39 / 81 (+42)
Armor: 1187 / 1540 (+353)
Total upgrade: +52 stamina, +112 AP, +50 crit, +42 hit, +353 armor.
Socket bonuses remain the same: 4agi+4agi+4stam (on Netherblade) gives slight advantage over 4dodge+4dodge+4stam.
The epic itemisation changes made a big impact. The dungeon set is now significantly behind.
评论来自
Thottbot
Skulkers Greaves from Netherspite actually have more hit
评论来自
Thottbot
uhmmm so...yea..if your NOT using slice and dice you shouldnt be raiding. this is my favorite 2 set bonus atm. im upset about t5...most of the stuff doesnt have hit rating which makes me very sad. im working my way to the hit cap(364 rating) and love having great bonuses along with getting +hit
评论来自
Thottbot
The Gem slots for this set are..
1 x Meta
1 x Blue
1 x Yellow
4 x Red
I was wondering what people thought would be the best gems to get for maximum dps?
Thanks.
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