Given the way things are going, I don't see why hardcore raiders can't raid in one window and still Zoom call their relatives for the holidays in the other. Heck, combine the two activities. I promise you, arguing with your guild over the latest wipe on a boss fight is DEFINITELY better than arguing with your (conservative/liberal/libertarian) family member about the (election/news/latest controversy) while your least favorite sibling steals all the attention by announcing their (pregancy/divorce/transition/engagement).
This comment section proves that a portion of the casual playerbase is capable of being every bit as toxic as the hardcore crowd. Imagine being happy that a raid release schedule will result in some people having way less fun, while delaying that schedule a few weeks would've resolved the problem at no real cost to you.The fact that we want to spend time with our familes is the point. We want to spend time with our families for the holidays, and see how high we can rank in Mythic. Now the advantage in that race—which we participate in because it's enjoyable to us, please leave your judgment at the door—goes to people without families or lives to attend to.It's like a marathon race. Yes, none of us are intending to win the marathon. But we've practiced and devoted time to seeing how fast we can run the thing, so it's fun for us to try to place as high as we can. This schedule steals that fun from us and gives a boost to people who do play the game in an unhealthy fashion, at the expense of their personal lives and families, because they're the ones who will ignore these social obligations to get an edge.
All of you ^&*!@ing about the raid release are the exact ones who would #$%^& if mythic got delayed until January. "Blizzard caters to the 1% again!" STFU and go outside.
man people pissed off because they use vacation for the game but its delayed. now people pissed off because blizz releasing during holidays when everyone is off to make up for the vacation and now people are still pissed off. how about we all agree that this is a rare situation and to let it lie where it falls. next expansion im sure wont be like this. this rarely happens. think of this as a one time case and let it be people. Usually games are released around holidays so people can buy them and play them when they are off and can do so. if your raiding and saying its taken up your time with your family, then you need to rethink your priorities. most people have about 4 parties and one work party. Lets say 4 hours each. So 16 hours of family time and 4 with coworkers/friends therefore 20 hours of "holiday and family/friend/coworker time" over weeks of gameplay. you can still raid and enjoy your family. I work the holidays every year on weekends etc. My jobs i worked never close, and we rarely get to see family and go to parties because we are pushing out products or staying open late and working extra hours for people to get gifts or gas. How do you think we manage? People being upset about a video game dropping during the holidays so they cant play and spend time with families is a very privileged thing and a first world problem.
Not really I'd rather they just delay mythic until January. It makes the most sense for everyone not just the 1%.
Their release plan is absolutely fine. Most of us are grown people, we can decide for our own wether we want to play a game or be with our families during christmas. It's not a descision blizz needs to make for us. World first raiders can make these descisions, too btw.
Question, people complaining about the overlap of the raid and holidays on the basis of wanting to spend time with their families, obviously wouldn't be raiding over the holiday period(and lets note that for non first 2 week mythic clearing guilds, with the original release date they'd be progressing during the holiday period anyways would have to make the same decision anyways, the top 100 positions would def not be filled by christmas even if WoW released Oct 26th).So if they are not gonna raid regardless of the delay or no delay, why should they get to decide what everyone else gets do during the holiday if nothing actually changes for them should it be delayed? My family only gets together on the 24-25-26th and that is it, and even that is essentially in doubt with the current situation. Many guilds will have no problem organizing raids by working around which dates work for enough people to actually run, especially in the case of Heroic that only realistically need 10 people to run. In addition both M+ and PvP would have to be either kneecapped or completely delayed as well, both of which are far more freeform and shorter avenues of activities that many complaining would def fit in a few runs of if they fall into their usual activities.Any reason to delay the raid past Christmas existed with the old release date, if anything closer to it is far easier to cope with because a guild can literally just decide to start progress AFTER the holiday rather than interrupting it then resuming. If you want the raid delayed, just delay it for yourself :P.
at least once a good call from Ion. Now, please leave.
I think 1 or 2 weeks later release and 3-4 weeks till season start would have solved any conflicts. For some reason that 2 weeks till Season 1 release is more important than avoiding the holiday. Either way I am happy. It will suck very minorly for me, but for the majority of players it doesn't affect them in the slightest.
I don't see the issue. None of you here are world first raiders, spend time with your family and raid the following week. it's not difficult.
Whole expansion should've delayed until January, the game is clearly not ready for launch. Anyways, thanks investors for forcing blizzard to release it this year.
Damn, wowhead community is so toxic. You’re never happy, too early, too late. Oh god.
There is no point for delaying it tho.Tier will be as always - around 6 months up, taking a one-two week break for holidays won't change anything for vast majority of players, even if that would be week 2-3 of mythic - nothing will go away, WoW survived 16 winter holidays periods in it's lifeOf course there is "the race" but first - it's a community event, so Blizz is not obliged to care. second - it's first tier of the expansion, I would be very surprised if mythic Sire even survive one whole reset, so the part of the race what most people watch will be over before the holidays, hardly anyone other than people participating in the "race" would care who gets (or get not due to holiday break) the 7th+ place in the Castle Nathria mythic race, week 3.
Delaying everything just for a few hundred players (lets be honest, its not the top 100 guilds in the running for 1st, its maybe 5-10) and making the rest of the player base wait is a ridiculous thing to even suggest, let alone impement.
It's not even a few hundred players. Covid or not November and December are the busiest months of the year due to the holidays. Regardless if you are seeing family or not it's disingenuous to first delay the game because it's not ready then turn around and release it during an American holiday week. Not to mention the raid releasing right in the middle of the busiest month of the year right before Xmas. This stinks of Activision investor $$$$$.I'm not sure what would have been wrong with a December 7 game release then just delaying the raid release to December 28 (after Xmas) and Mythic on Jan 4 (after Xmas and New Years).This seems stupid and 100% affects more than just the World 1st race.